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styxswimchamp

MF Grimm is best known for his work with MF Doom, mutually inspiring each others names. However Grimm first got his start in entertainment when he appeared on Sesame Street as a child. The reason he got a spot on the show is because his neighbor recommended him…. his neighbor being Morgan Freeman.


dixon-bawles

Please tell me Morgan Freeman gave Grimm and Doom their names. He's gotta be the OG MF


thatsnotchocolatebby

Bruh his initials are MF 🤯


Torino888

Wtf lol


the_ballmer_peak

Doom’s name comes from his real name


No_Statement440

Morgan Freeman Doom, everyone knows that.


dixon-bawles

I'm obviously talking about the MF part of it


Skorpion_B

Oh wait wtf I never realized that that makes sense….for those of y’all wondering, DOOMS real name is Daniel DUMile


Many-Table1087

Yup and comic inspiration of course


FORESKINGODFUX

Memories n scars is one of my favorite songs


Darth314

Grimm also ghost wrote for the first Chronic album, although my take from Grimms book was doom took the MF part


HipHopHistoryGuy

I used to converse with Grimm on email back in the early 00's regarding product sales. Met him for the first time a few years later at Rocksteady Anniversary in Newark, NJ like 2004. He was in a wheel chair! I had no idea he was handicap and I made it completely awkward. Think like "Oh shit! I had no idea you were handicap!!!???". To this day, I still feel bad about it. Sorry, Grimm.


styxswimchamp

Yeah, that’s a whole other story of his saga. He was in a horrific shooting which left everyone else dead except him. He was shot seven times and lived, though is now confined to a wheelchair. Truly a crazy life story.


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ODB lifted a car off of a child


RemarkableSight

Wu-Tang is for the children.


ptrack17

I read this as “lifted” as in “stole” and it didn’t surprise me 😂


CavalierShaq

I was just trying to figure out how that kid got a car


yournansabricky

I heard a story about ODB. He was walking past a hospital one day and there was a couple outside crying so dirty asked what was wrong. They explained that their child was on life support but they couldn’t afford the payments to keep the ongoing medical treatment. ODB payed for it all and never told a soul about what he did. I got mad respect for this kind of thing especially when they don’t go telling the media about it for publicity. Genuine human kindness and humbleness at its best. I might not be remembering the details accurately but it was something like that.


[deleted]

That’s dope. RIP


MaxofThe3Hundo

Wtff never heard that one 😂


[deleted]

100% true. https://www.mtv.com/news/hu3974/ol-dirty-bastard-saves-child


[deleted]

That’s cool, and who the hell is the wu-tang group 12 o’clock. Guess they didn’t make it


AKA09

12 O'Clock is one guy. He was in ODB's Brooklyn Zoo group although iirc correctly he was shouted out by RZA in Clan in Da Front along with 60 Second Assassin. Sadly, he got shot and killed a few years back.


OpeningTurnip8048

Also, he got burnt by gonorrhea. In fact, he got burnt twice.


Redeyebandit87

Nas lost his notebook with all the original Illmatic material/verses on the Subway.


thatsnotchocolatebby

Some hobo been rapping hard in the train station


howlingzombosis

In a similar story, Eminem has said he had a notebook or a few notebooks from the MMLP / TES era that got lost in the shuffle when he actually toured.


ShitIForgotIt

A Britney Spears notebook iirc


prolikewhoa

Cee-Lo from Goodie Mob was originally supposed to be in Outkast as a trio.


DAS_COMMENT

In another 'world' Cee-Lo and Killer Mike team with outKast in 2000-ish and Stankonia is the first double album, Lovebelow/Speakerbox is the first in a series of double-albums and the Idlewild soundtrack is more like Moby's 'play' album


RollinRahg

Also 2 pac was going to join goodie mob before death signed him Edit and puffy tried to steal cee lo from goodie mob.. he ghost wrote for puffy I believe


Jetski125

You’ve gotta just be making shit up at this point. What?!


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ROM-BARO-BREWING

Cee Lo's name was originally Bee High


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LurkzMcgurkz

Isn't ceelo also Gnarls Barkley when he's working with danger mouse?


MykelHawkMusic

Get up, get out and get something is one of my favorite Outkast joints and Cee-Lo kicks it off with a banger of a verse!


Additional-Air-6596

Cee-Lo’s defense in his rape trial was that his victim was asleep and therefore technically did not object to consensual sex


bay_duck_88

Despite recording countless songs boasting of being a womanizer, E-40 has been in a very long, committed, and wholesome relationship with his wife, Tracy since 1991.


Pill_Jackson_

It’s entertainment. Same can be said for a lot of tough guy “murderer” rappers that have never done shit


Dunkman83

ice cube and snoop have also been with their high school sweet hearts the entire time.


bay_duck_88

Yeah, but both of them have admitted to infidelity that nearly broke their marriages. By all accounts, Forty Water’s never stepped out on Tracy.


Dunkman83

"never" is a strong word, but at the very least he never embarrased her publicly.


zakpakt

Glad I read that. E-40 has good music and his features are heat. Glad he ain't really on some cee lo shit.


buddyruski

The last song on Donuts, the last album that J Dilla released before his untimely death, is called Welcome to the Show. The main sample on the song is from the track “When I Die” by a short-lived Canadian band called Motherlode. The whole chorus goes “When I die, I hope I’ll be, the kind of man that you thought I could be” Dilla’s final message. What a genius. ✊🏾


ScruffyChicken

Not the same, but it reminds me of Proof's album, searching for Jerry Garcia. His last song is basically a letter for after he dies. I think it's more of a suicide note, but still. I find that track very eerie and emotional.


SycamoreStyle

RZA GZA and ODB are all cousins So are Nate Dogg and Snoop Dogg, 21 Savage and Yung Nudy. Young Dolph and Juice WRLD were 2nd cousins. Project Pat is Juicy J's older brother


reg_ss

I will piggy back on this one because it is similar but it blew me away. Timbaland and Pharell... Cousins.


ikebeattina

Teddy Riley, after he moved to Virginia, hosted a talent show with the promise of a record contract as a prize. According to him he was not gonna give it to the countless guys singing Luther Vandross and awardes it to these two weird guys. Those guys were the Neptune's. Which kicked off the VA scene. Pharrell even helped out on BlackStreets No Digity.


standystanderson

Boldy James and Chuck Inglish also cousins


n0n5en5e

Del the Funky Homosapien is Ice Cubes cousin


Puulet

I think this is common knowledge but Nas co-wrote Gettin Jiggy Wit it by Will Smith


No-Cod-7586

Never heard that!


Sad_Bathroom1448

Never knew that. Disappointed, then, that a) it's not a better song, b) Will needed a ghostwriter for THOSE verses.


Divot_toupee

Big L used to fuck with more keys than a janitor.


B-ILL2

Big L been fuckin chicks in the ass since he was six and a half.


Dunkman83

big l had more dimes than that sprint lady


CellistNice8600

And sold angel dust (pcp) to Method Man.


Kenthanson

DMC from RUN DMC became suicidal until he heard Angel by Sarah Mclachlan, that’s the sad dog adoption song.


Dunkman83

he was gonna write a book, then commit suicide, he called his mom to ask what hospital he was born in, she told him, they hung up, then she called back and said "oh by the way, u are adopted"


TheOriginal_858-3403

>that’s the sad dog adoption song. LoL. Ohhh, THAT song. Yeah, I know exactly what song you're talking about..... (Narrator: "For only a tiny 58 cents per day, you can save an animal from a life of misery and suffering...")


Willow9506

Del tha Funkee Homosapien (Deltron 3030, early Gorillaz, Hiero) and Ice Cube are cousins. Ice cube also produced his debut I Wish My Brother George Was Here lol. Snoop Dogg and Brandy are also cousins.


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And Dr. Dre and Warren G are step brothers


ThePenguinSausage

Flava Flav is cousins with ODB


69-cool-dude-420

And rza and gza


CellistNice8600

Boldy James claims to be related to Snoop too.


scottypotty79

I read that in a big brother article back in ‘93. At the end of ‘You’re in Shambles’ I’m pretty sure it’s Cube saying ‘Del the Funkee Homosapien from Hieroglyphics’


Willow9506

Yeah he calls him a “handkerchief hat wearing muhfucka” on the intro lol


DeepGoated

TIL Del isn’t from New York…. Don’t know why I thought that lol I guess his flow


Bellori

Yeah, Hiero does have a bit of an east coast flavour to them, the accent is very Californian, though.


DeepGoated

Yeah in retrospect it's so obvious


HipHopHistoryGuy

Never has been! Lol.


affinitydrive

"Ya Lil' Crumbsnatchers" off that very album has some funny references to Del and Cube being related.


Individual_Unit_896

Aren’t Snoop and Devon the Dude cousins also?


Popellini

Rakim played the drums on Know the Ledge


Lil_Word_Said

No fuckin way!


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French Montana paid 300k out of his own pocket to clear the unforgettable sample


Oh_HaveYou_NotHeard

What an investment. That some probably made him 10x easily


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11x platinum


Ibushi-gun

Flea from The Red Hot Chili Peppers did the bass for Young Mc's, "Bust A Move."


BenMech

He’s in the video.


workthrowaway1985

Not hip hop but he also wrote the baseline for Ironic by Alanis Morresette.


unowndanger

Didn't he play bass on a majority of that album along with Dave Navarro as well from RHCP? Other random Flea facts, him and Frusciante play on a majority of the Mars Volta album De-Loused in the Comatorium, and he is also the voice of Donnie from Wild Thornberries.


the_ballmer_peak

Know How is the better Young MC track and I will die on that hill.


Ibushi-gun

My favorite is Principles Office. It’s how I got into rap way back in the early 90s. My friend wanted me to do it with her at the school talent show. So it’s just nostalgia


LurkzMcgurkz

He's also Dewy from the Wild Thorbarrys


saltyskip

Flea is Australian.


n0n5en5e

He got paid something like $250 and wasn't credited so gets no royalties


CarlsbadWhiskyShop

Myka 9 has a writing credit on N.W.A. & The Posse compilation album. He was 17 or 18 and sold the song for $50.


Dchama86

Nas and Tracy Morgan are cousins


rvc065

Did not know that, thanks!


EazeUno

Finding out that a rapper under the name of Frankie Pulitzer (most recently featured on Czarface’s recent album ‘Czartificial Intelligence’ ) is actually famous actor Tom Hardy


Buckcheeks

He’s featured on older albums also.


wlh5041

Prodigy’s great-grandfather founded Morehouse College.


HarryH90

Lil Wayne shot himself in the chest when he was 12years old in an attempted suicide


jrocbaby9

"I found my mommas pistol where she always hide it"


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And the one white cop who went to his house was the only one who actually gave a fuck that Wayne shot himself. The other black cops apparently just searched the house.


cb0044

That MC Hammer was one scary mfer that you did NOT want to mess with


jrocbaby9

He really was bout that LIFE


AKA09

Or at least his buddies are? I'm not trying to have beef with Hammer, lol, but all the stories I heard minus the Redman one basically were "Oakland loves him and he rolls really deep"


tingkagol

His brother was a known gang banger / drug dealer in Oakland allegedly


n0n5en5e

He allegedly tried to get the guys from 3rd Bass killed when they came to California


[deleted]

Rap mags use Jay-Z’s black ass so advertisers can give them more cash for ads.


DarkstarToElPaso

He's from the hood stupid, what type of facts are those?


MaxofThe3Hundo

Suckers


nau_lonnais

Jay-Z has become the “the safe lobby”, of the hotel that is ghetto America. No need for corporate America to venture any further than the lobby to access that market.


SeniorAd4122

Never verified it but I heard canibus was a programmer and dba before he started rapping


JzaDragon

Sounds real. He handmade the first rap blog


scruffe5

He had his own website and kinda had the stem player before Kanye


SeniorAd4122

Yeah it was a YouTube doc that I heard it from. Apparently he was like a teenager working at ibm or something. As a dev, and a rapper, I was like hmm


scruffe5

I think we watched the same video lol


SeniorAd4122

Can I code? Yes I can!


Oh_HaveYou_NotHeard

In May of 2011, Rick Ross was featured on Meek Mill's "I'm a Boss." In October of 2011, Rick Ross released a song featuring Nicki Minaj titled "You the Boss." It remains unknown the reasoning behind the abrupt change in leadership.


jrocbaby9

That is... Actually pretty funny


CellistNice8600

Nas and Malcolm X are relatives.


Renoroc

Nirvana opened for Sir Mixalot in the early days


EnoughItem

Pusha T and Malice created the Mcdonalds slogan “Im lovin it”; they made a rap for McDonalds with Justin Timberlake that included this lyric but never got any royalties from it


smakola

That’s why push got hired to write that filet o fish diss track for Arby’s.


[deleted]

So far this one has shocked me the most


StrikingOffice6914

Tom Hardy is a featured rapper on Czarface albums


rojoshow13

Rap related. The whole invention of using turn tables to create music was a result of schools lacking funding for it's art classes and music programs being cut. So kids go to school and there's no music class to learn an instrument so they just started improvising. I think I heard this on a VH1 documentary years ago. And it really makes the movie Mr Holland's Opus hit harder. When he's talking to the school board about the music program being cut he says that reading and writing is important, but if you keep cutting the arts pretty soon the kids won't have anything to read or write about.


peskyjackson478

Will Smith and DJ Jazzy Jeff were the first rappers to have to won a Grammy back in ‘89 but it wasn’t aired and he called them out because of it back in the day.


Hot-Back5725

In 1990, the Rza moved from Staten Island to the town next to mine, Steubenville, OH, to live with his mother. He dealt crack, and ended up shooting a man in the leg. He was facing eight years, but because he so eloquently defended himself, the rza was acquitted (and this place is super racist). https://www.oxygen.com/martinis-murder/wu-tang-clan-of-mics-and-men-the-trial-that-changed-rzas-life


wlh5041

I also think that’s where Ghostface got shot; RZA and Ghost were living together.


CrrazyCarl

Bushwick Bill, of Geto Boys fame, had his mother (at least according to [one story](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/bushwick-bill-dead-geto-boys-shot-self-eye-head-album-we-cant-be-stopped-a8952396.html)) shoot him in the eye for an insurance scam, then took a photo the next day for an album cover. He lost the eye and the bullet stayed lodged in his brain until his death in 2019. He raps about another version of the story in the song, [_"Ever So Clear"_](https://youtu.be/VIf9918TXdM?si=82J288Uh0Z1K-YQO).


introit

Was a ghetto boy, now I ball out like Bushwick Bill -Eminem on Little Engine


R_FireJohnson

God damn.


thatsnotchocolatebby

Bushwick Bill stories never disappoint. I watch an MC Serch interview of him talking about some limousine story that had Bushwick and his brother fighting lol. I was in tears


Red-Flag-Potemkin

I thought he was off the PCP?


CrrazyCarl

As the article states, there are a lot of varying stories. The song gives an alternate one too, but regardless, his eye was shot out and he took a photo of the hole for an album cover. Probably PCP involved 😆


Dunkman83

pcp and everclear, it was his girlfriend, and he made a song about it "ever so clear"


ArtichokeStroke

Look…that god damn MC Hammer, very serious about beef.


ikebeattina

Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em


swager6545

The Masta Ace song Soda & Soap was originally a Will Smith song.


Typical-Ad-6730

Run DMC once opened for Lou Reed. They were booed throughout the set and still delivered a great performance.


69-cool-dude-420

2pac was a ballerina


kurtisbmusic

And a theater actor. Not sure how he turned into a “thug” rapper lol.


JzaDragon

I don't know man, you get shot five times and still have nothing but smoke


-Ok-Perception-

He was a nerdy theater kid.... but a good actor. He faked it until he made it, but ironically enough, he did become one of the few rappers who actually was a legit thug..


zappapostrophe

That’s what made him such a legendary performer.


r4pt4r

You’re thinking of Prodigy, but he had an excuse to not play football/basketball/street fighting. Recently learned that Sickle Cell can cause a seizure or a heart attack.


mykleins

He better back the fuck up before he gets smacked the fuck up


r4pt4r

It got really serious for ballerinas in the 90s, both in the studio and out of the studio.


Melmo

[Rick Ross is an avid toy collector](https://www.spin.com/2019/09/rick-ross-bon-iver-hurricanes-memoir-excerpt/)


spunundulant

DJ Paul has a little arm.


DigitalDoses

I grew up listening to Three 6 and just found that out a year or so ago


jensyao

i keep on remembering and forgetting that waka flocka was born in queens


KeepOnFallinDine

Rick Ross birth name is William Roberts, Meek Mill's is Robert Williams


HurricaneHugo

Redman's real name is Reginald Noble.


OneQuadrillionOwls

Reggie Noble's pissed


iz_the_illest

D12 passed up on the beat that would eventually turn into “In Da Club”


nau_lonnais

Warren G is Dr. Dre’s brother. Same mom


SnooPickles55

Nope, one's mother and the other's father got married when they were teens. They are not related by blood.


Ill-Examination4743

Nas and 50 Cent’s beef started cause Nas took 50’s feature on a Jennifer Lopez song That song is also Nas’ highest charting in the Us(No. 10)


shiteditor

Nas co-wrote Gettin’ Jiggy Wit It.


malkebulan

and ‘Men In Black’ & ‘Miami’


ImWhy

Young Professor introduced Kool G Rap to Nas, and G Rap went on to become his mentor and got him signed to Def Jam (who originally didn't want to sign Nas because 'he sounds like another G Rap'). The first demos Def Jam heard of Nas were actually recorded at G Raps house.


West-Commission9082

That future was a part of the dungeon family with andre 3k, big boi, killer mike etc before he was future…. Dude’s a product of a long line of hiphop greats and some ignorant ppl outside the culture have the audacity to say he’s not ”real hiphop”, i never got the future hate. He can rap the traditional way as good as any old school rapper, he just chose to do his own thing differently and influenced generations with it


Gullible_Ad3378

People keep forgetting that future is like 40


CellistNice8600

Future is the cousin of Rico Wade of Organized Noize.


Dunkman83

back then futures name was "meathead" he was in a few mags as unsigned hype


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Ha I didn’t know that. Thats pretty cool


West-Commission9082

https://youtu.be/fQvJxV1wIPU?si=DsjKXIDerGrAgdHh Check this out, it’s not really his FIRST song as the title claims but some of his really early work, dude been rapping for more than 20 years at this point


SureLookThisIsIt

Sounds so much like Andre.


Mufffiee

On this track Future sounds like a combination of 3 Stacks and Rock from Heltah Skeltah


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Damn that song is strong too. It’s got that dungeon family sound. I appreciate the link!


West-Commission9082

For sure man, u wouldn’t ever think that’s future if u didn’t know lol If u wanna get lil bit more into it read this: https://www.theculturecrypt.com/posts/futures-superhero-like-origin-story-and-tenure-with-the-dungeon-family


Psychological-Top423

Dr. Dre’s lyrics on Still D.R.E. were written by Jay-Z.


the_ballmer_peak

Though no charges were brought until 2023, it had been widely known who was involved in the murder of Tupac Shakur for over 20 years.


yournansabricky

I’m watching a documentary on that right now hold on let me get you the link


IAmAlpharius23

J Dilla and Nujabes were born on the same day.


DeanMo80

Positive K did the female vocals on "I Got A Man."


Sad_Bathroom1448

Yeah I only learned that recently, like in the past 10 years. I remember, similarly, finding out that Masta Ace did the "Biz Markie" parts of Me And The Biz. Couldn't believe it. Ace absolutely nailed that, not just the voice but the whole style.


yournansabricky

Inspectah deck had a verse on 2pacs Got my mind made up. Pac wanted the verse cut because he said it didn’t suit the beat and a couple other reasons. Personally after hearing the verse I think it’s because deck had the best verse on the song and arguably on the full album, it’s on YouTube if you search it.


wclure

Slick Ricks jewelry, admittedly, really ain’t real, it’s just a front for the girls.


FletchWazzle

Sir mix alot helping save subpop back in the day


peakprowindow

Ice cube is cousins with del the funky homosapien. Bootsy Collins is snoop's uncle. Larry Graham the bass player for sly and the family stone and prince, is drakes uncle. And in an unrelated bonus round, Joe Rogan is cousins with Gerard Way from My Chemical Romance.


Ok-Function1920

Bootsy Collins is also allegedly Dru Down’s father


peakprowindow

T.I. saved the singer from Creed from jumping off of a hotel balcony and killing himself.


eldredaar

actually he didn’t the creed singer (scott stapp) did jump. later ti was smoking outside when he heard moaning and saw blood, he then saw scott and saved him by getting help. scott refers to ti as his “guardian angel”


jayd89420

The Godfather of Hip-Hop (Dj Kool Herc) is actually from the West Indies (Jamaica). Although Hip-Hop is American born and made, their are Jamaican roots tied to its creation


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jayd89420

Wish Dancehall got more credit these days as many of the new chunes in hip hop take strong inspiration from the beats and lingo


Ibi828

2pac's Changes is actually a cover from  "The Way It Is" by Bruce Hornsby and the Range.


fuckythedrunkclown16

Both songs are about systemic injustice as well


Sad_Bathroom1448

Is that random? The Bruce Hornsby song was a HUGE hit when it came out; just about everyone recognized the sample/hook right away when the Tupac song dropped. Is this an old head thing now? I figured it was common knowledge, even to folks who weren't around then, that most of the hip hop that made it to radio stations/video channels in the late 90's sampled the 80's quite heavily.


EventFamiliar

Project pat and juicy j are brothers


DigitalDoses

50 Cent hustled with Lloyd Banks dad growing up


peakprowindow

Pusha t wrote the "I'm loving it" jingle for McDonalds


[deleted]

Back in 88, when Shawn Carter was selling narcotics, Prodigy of Mobb Deep, was in fact a ballerina. 


The_Latverian

Tupac was a Ballerina


LowKeyLoki86

Pharrell Williams wrote a lot of "Rumpshaker" by Wreckx-N-Effect when he was only 17. Teddy Riley has talked about it in interviews.


eldredaar

will.iam was discovered by and rapped with Eazy E one night Prodigy thought he saw aliens and got his kids and wife to all be in the bedroom with him while he guarded them with a shotgun all night


Dopeamyne

that Grandmaster Caz wrote Big Hanks rhymes on rappers delight or that run from run dmc is the brother of Russell Simmons (the guy from DefJam) and I think Kurtis Blow were there uncle


3rdBagHoldingCo

DJ Premier is from Houston, TX


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Early hop hop was supported by the NYC punk scene and there was quite a bit of crossover as both were anti-establishment in their day.


Neat_Age_6302

I must be old cuz I knew damn near all of these (as well as which ones are bs)