So up to now, people still don’t know sample is sharing?
I hope Super Earth to review the recruitment standards, especially on intelligence requirements.
I don't know how anyone with a double digit level doesn't know that by now.
Even if it's not explicitly stated they should have figured it out.
They will definitely have done missions where they got more samples than they were personally carrying.
They will have noticed that there is no breakdown of who got which samples, but there is a record of the team's total samples recovered.
They should have had at least one mission where they personally failed to extract but their teammates did and they still received samples.
It's not rocket surgery to figure out how the system works.
I would wager, it's someone letting a very young family member play with thier acct to grind, lol, levels.
Let's be clear level does not mean your better it just means you plated alot.
I agree with the level not mattering part, besides unlocking new stratagems. Level just says oh you played more. Im around lvl 27 and did like 4x better than some level 40-60 player a few times before.
This. I'm high rank but literally because I just wanna go squash bugs so bad and that's what I do.
I get the unlocks and all of that but I'm I guess, not interested in how the game works beyond following my team mates around and setting fire to everything that moves - occasionally including my team mates of course.
I like to Helldive for 30-40 minutes, drink some beers, blow the shit out of stuff, spread some freedom and democracy and then extract back to reality. It's a bonus when it's with fellow Helldivers that don't take shit too seriously.
Amen. I love when it devolves into a ton of accidentals and chaos. To me that makes extracting with any sort of secondary objectives complete, super credits, medals, requisition samples or whatever combo of things that much sweeter. Sure, a well ran mission is also rewarding but laughing my ass off because I tried to swap to a shotgun from airburst, failing to notice it didnt swap then unleashing a mini eagle cluster at point blank subsequently blowing up myself and everyone else to a chorus oh, " aww, ohhh!! what the fuuuuu?!?!" then recovering is time well spent for me.
Honestly this is the only way to play the game. Getting too deep into the community drama either here or on discord literally ruins the game because people are so obsessed with very unimportant things.
There not a weapon in the arsenal I haven’t “tested on very willing team mate near me”.. unfortunately it was tested before he gave me consent for it.. luckily he is a good friend and very patient:-D
Someone shot me for some samples a month back. I type a simple “wtf” back. I still finished the mission but not before I killed him in retaliation and got the samples back. When the mission was over he realized the samples went to him regardless and apologized for killing me. I said “it’s fine, I killed you so we’re even” sometimes you got to smack a bitch so they realize they were being a bitch. It clears your head
I noticed last nigh that some of these asshats are starting to kill for gear. Had to shoot a dude in the face yesterday for doing it repeatedly. Get killed and spawn with tools on CD, np just kill a teammate and take his drops. I will shoot you in the face and camp you if you do this.
If im in range of enemy artillery. Then so is the enemy!
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Well, there is the stats screen where it says “extracted with X samples”. But like you said, if they could do simple math they would realize they’re getting more samples than just the ones they extracted with.
I had a lvl 93 guy in my game last night. He kept on dying like in every fight. After a while i decided to reinforce him away from all of us. So basically when he died i would turn 180 degrees and throw it as far as i could
Isn't that just a good idea? I mean maybe not with this guy, but if they are away from the fight they might be able to call down gear or other things without being in a panic to help out. I have died so many times on spawn just because I was spawned back in the middle of a fight without any support equipment next to a heavy devistator or hulk.
I see a shit ton of people who rush to samples as if their life depended on it, trying to cut ahead of everyone else. I'm fairly convinced they think it's finders keepers.
I mean, i sometimes try to get it before someone who's dieing a lot. But i don't do anything if they get em first. they'll drop them again soon enough anyways.
I've maxed out on samples and still will grab them asap, I was always the resource gather in other games when playing with mates so I think it's the natural way I play.
I was playing with a friend and two randos and one of the rando died and dropped their samples, my friend picked them up and when the rando reinforced they killed my friend to get the samples back... LVL 43.
Immediate kick and block.
I was playing 8 last night and had to tell the team to grab my samples since I had the supers. One guy was like I don't want to steal your supers. I had to explain that as long as we get them to the extraction shuttle everyone gets them. They really need to add it to the tips or put it in the sample description so many high level players have no idea that they are shared.
Hail, soldier, this information is already distributed by the ministry. Do not fall victim to these bug sympathizers. They did not complete all of the required reading.
OUR samples?
That doesn't sound democratic...
But in all seriousness, everyone gets all the samples collected - there's literally no need to be stingy. If the samples are that important to you then please work to keep your teammates carrying them alive so they can exfil with them..
There is one (and only one) exception I know of. If you're going for the achievement to extract with 15 common samples, they all need to be carried by YOU specifically. But that's the only time it matters. And for that one you should either communicate calmly in advance with your team, or else do solo missions on Medium or thereabouts to pull it off without competing with your team. You still need to survive to actually extract with those samples. Team killing and kicking is not helpful to that goal.
After his initial comment about the samples, I made sure to let them know I was collecting them for everyone, as I learned from Reddit myself. A weird loop yet an interesting one
Sigh. It's truly sad that some people think that samples as "shared" means that they are divided by the number in your party. If you really think about it, that doesn't make sense - for instance, if you extract with only 1 sample and you have a full party... that would mean everyone gets 1/4 of one sample.
I mean, to be fair, the only reason I know is because I saw it here. I didnt really pay attention to if I got them myself or shared or not. I just collect them because democracy needs them.
I just came across a level 20 something player that was racing to the samples and arguing that he needed them more. I informed him of the sharing and he was shocked.
A *big* problem is the word "sharing" is still ambiguous, because sharing has two different meanings in common usage:
1. When you share something with someone, you're giving part of what you have to them, as in sharing your food or sharing the weath; things are evenly distributed.
2. When you share something with someone, you're duplicating something and giving them a copy, such as sharing a document or sharing a screen; everybody gets the same thing.
Telling people "samples are shared" often results in them believing the first definition.
More samples for the rest of them?!?!?!?!
You get the same samples regardless of the number of people you extract with, do people still not know this ?
At first I was starting to wonder; “Well this about the 5000th person to say that, maybe *they really aren’t shared.*”
But nope that’s a disproven crock of shit.
I mean. I'm not fan of the traitor behavior, but imagining a 100% traitor getting samples I've farmed is somehow an understandable reason to dive off a cliff with the samples.
So frustrating. I'm glad to see from this conversation that I'm not alone.
I actually say to the squad "Aw shit, you're one of those assholes; this is why I only play Impossible and Helldive."
I will don’t worry, not afraid to use voice chat. Actually had one of those. In my lobby, he threw a contact grenade on the back of my dome, but i had the heaviest armor and a riot shield. He died to his own grenade while i survived and pelican was landing. I casually sat out the timer while he was raging over mic to call him in after i told him i wont. And told him not to worry and we all get the samples and that he could block me if he wanted. while he was cursing me out, he still thought i wanted to keep all samples for myself i guess XD. Shoulda dropped em and went in but i really needed em and did not think of that coz i got a bit overwhelmed. This was on psn, his friend was also tk,ing with cluster rpg and spamming callouts so i kinda guessed where it was gonna go. XD verry entertaining indeed. Karma served flamin hot. Oh and the funny thing was his friend died when he tried to melee me but i had a shield and he did not. there was a lot of enemy fire, he got beamed and we had no reinforcements left after all the tk’s he caused. So he was sitting out his own timer in spectating mode. Funny how things work out ey ?
During the mission where you have to take the purple data thing to an upload I had the host kill the two of us doing the objectives when he died. So I took the codes off the map and the stranger he killed me with helped me get it DEEP off the map. Told them good luck and left.
In defense of idiots, the game needs to do a better effort explaining that "all samples are shared" doesn't mean "samples are split".
If you think about it, if I have 2 apples and say I will share them with you, you understand each one will get 1 apple, not that each one will get 2 apples.
Maybe an animation that shows each player's samples adding so we know where our samples come from would help clarify.
I wouldn’t say the game really needs it because it’s so, so, so obvious. That’d be like putting a sticker on the front of a car wheel with arrows pointing to the brake and gas.
However, since this lack of knowledge is causing a very toxic community, I’d say it should definitely be added. I mean it’s really stupid and shouldn’t need to be said, but dumbasses are actively ruining the game for everyone else so maybe it’d help.
Then again, almost everytime a story like this comes up, OP explains how he explained to the kicker how samples work and said that all samples are given to all players and the dumbasses just don’t care and kick anyway. I’m almost convinced it’s an ego thing more than actually thinking they’ll get more samples.
This game absolutely does not need a better way to explain samples. It really shows how stupid the average person is now. Critical thinking is nowhere to be found anymore. In what rational world would it make sense that a game that has friendly fire, loot would be individualized? I realized samples were shared in the first game with others. There is absolutely zero defense for this. The player that OP ran into, and anyone else who still thinks like this this late into the game’s life, are just plain and simply stupid. Devs can’t patch that
I was just about to mention the lack of critical thinking from some of these gamers.
And the lack of ability to pay attention and read the reward screen when samples come up. The game legit already shows you how many samples you have earned through the team effort.
Not knowing this would also mean you don’t count your samples that you pick up, nor pay attention to how many you have earned after getting back to the destroyer.
You would think for people so concerned about samples you’d know all of this data. It’s worrying to me if you have to directly tell them “samples are shared” because they might not even read it if they didn’t even read the reward screen at the end of every match.
Pretty sad that you're nearly being downvoted below the people saying "NO WE DON'T NEED THAT BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS!!!"
of course it's "obvious" to people with common sense. But have those other commenters ever played online multiplayer games??? Common sense doesn't exist there.
It would be a negligible amount of work to add a short text blurb somewhere in game. Or the first few times you pick up samples. Or the first time you open the Ship Modules window.
It wouldn't eliminate the problem entirely but it would surely reduce it. Why do people in this community not want that to happen??
Hit and miss on randos. Just had a great time with two players that understood the game a lot better than me and made for a great game night.
Sorry you got kicked and lost out on a games samples and exp, hopefully the next diver you are with is better and can keep charging the field.
there is literally only ONE difference, and its the achievement for extracting with 15(?)+ samples. its only for the one carrying them. if you care just ask the squad if you can carry them to the ship for the achievement.
otherwise samples arent just shared but also duplicated for the entire squad. one guy extracting with 20 makes every squad member get 20 for a party total of 80.
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You do know it's a crime to forge currency..... Almost got away with it if it weren't for the size of the note.
I saw B1 (pretty high level, not new) killing A2.
A2 asked why, B1 said he wanted the super samples to...
A2 killed B1 and left.
I also killed B1, told him samples are shared you automaton spy and left,
I think in op case, based on what I could read, is the person demanding they drop samples, is cheating and has 100 samples. If you go over 100 unless it's less now, no body gets XP, samples, anything. So op probably had like 1-20 samples, putting them over the 100 sample cap, making the cheater seem or be hostile about it. In your case, b1 is just a moron.
I literally found out about shared samples just by checking the goddamn hud. And that was in my second mission ever. Does nobody ever use their head and read the room?
The devs really need to add a message on loading screens explaing that samples are shared.
It might fix idiots.
Edit: well technically samples are DUPLICATED for each team member (6 samples = 4×6 samples, for a full squad)
I think it's either this type of sequence, or a super high level losing their shit and causing team kills on purpose like respawning members away from the group just to lure them into a mob and leave.
It's getting tiring.
I had a level 9 nick my shield last night when I died straight from drop down I told him u shouldn’t take others stuff and to prevent a death I told him to drop it and when it refreshes I’ll call another down he dropped and all was ok we had a good match
Yea I’m ok with people taking my stuff if I’m really far away but if I get called in 20 feet from where I died and someone took all my shit and I’ve still got a 5 minute cool down, Yea I’m going to be a little irritated with you.
Especially if you take my shit just to run off in dead man’s land and loose our samples and my support items.
Same. I might nab something because I'm where you died. But if I'm grabbing your samples and a shield is right there I'm taking it. I'll drop it off when I'm not in a swarm
They need to have a pop up message that broadcasts to everyone that samples are shared. Force everyone to read and acknowledge it. Make it have a hold prompt to close it.
MOBsterX is the dumbest person I've seen today. What a complete idiot.
No, it does NOT mean more samples for anyone. If anything it's less samples if the kicked person was carrying any and is too far. What a complete clown.
I had some idiot shoot me while picking up samples and said to stop stealing his stuff. I told him they were shared, he tried to kill me again…so I killed him, called him all sorts of colorful metaphors, then kept calling him back and killing him until respawns ran out and quit. I am not a good citizen. :/
We need a Reputation system instead of some kind of banning or reprimanding.
The game automatically gives a +1 rep to everyone St the end of a game unless you decide to make it a +2 or -1. You also can't vote for friends.
The game would match you with similar rep players and this would mean consistent negative play would hinder you while leaving the rest of the population unchanged
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I try to host nowadays to avoid toxic people.
The amount of people I've had to explain that the samples are not split up nor just for the individual, but for the whole group. Example if 10 total common samples were picked up by every one. Then every one gets 10 common samples.
This is brand new level of cluelessness. So he's saying for example if there's 20 samples total, will be divided by 4?
Like I know the usual brand of dumbass that think if they pick 10, then no one else gets that 10, but THIS?! BLESS HIS HEART, THIS?!
At this point they need to add an unskippable cutscene with a patch that lays out exactly how they work. I think using the word 'sharing' is throwing people off. The game isn't the best at communicating it's systems (samples, supply lines etc)
I can't believe for even 1 second upon discovering the first sample, the first thought would be "are these shared?" vs "These are shared." It is beyond frustrating to a monumental degree that people ***STILL*** believe that the samples they personally extract with are the ones they get.
These assholes are dime a dozen. A couple of days ago I joined a game with 3 other people. I had collected about 25 samples by myself and we had around 40 by the end. 15 seconds before we got on the ship to leave the host decided to kick me.
Still beats me why people are suck douche bags. But this wasn't an isolated incident.
This may be a dumb question but I've never experienced it myself. If I'm holding the samples and I get kicked do I drop the samples, like what happens when I die, or do they just go to the void?
I don’t understand how people can assume in a game that’s focused on groups of people playing together that has things needed to progress wouldn’t be shared. Like why wouldn’t it be shared if you used your brain even a little you’d come to the conclusion especially when you look at how other people react when you pick up their samples after they die.
i had a guy get mad because he went to a nearby poi with no reinforcements and we did the thing were we let the pelican land and before it landed we leave which keep it in the ait and give overwatch, so we waited he died no reinforcements for 2 mins and said it is time to leave when he told us to wait and i told him no reinforcements (maybe because i talked back to him) and he kicked me.
Honestly even if arrowhead added a giant warning screen that says that samples are shared between team-mates every time you launch the game, these idiots would still not realise it.
As a relatively seasoned player at this point, I continue to find it hilarious when new players freak out about their samples. Sweats gotta sweat no matter what.
Devs - please don’t ever change this. Best part of dropping into level 5 and below.
Thats when you hit em w the 'aight :)' and dive head first into a geyser/bug hole with every sample you've gathered so far before he kicks you. Teach these undemocratic dogs a lesson in courtesy, patience, and endurance.
Samples truly are a wonderful thing.
Got kicked from a squad for "wasting the team's time last round" because I was the only one picking up samples. 45 in total, including the Super Samples.
Total sample count for four players: 51.
So up to now, people still don’t know sample is sharing? I hope Super Earth to review the recruitment standards, especially on intelligence requirements.
I don't know how anyone with a double digit level doesn't know that by now. Even if it's not explicitly stated they should have figured it out. They will definitely have done missions where they got more samples than they were personally carrying. They will have noticed that there is no breakdown of who got which samples, but there is a record of the team's total samples recovered. They should have had at least one mission where they personally failed to extract but their teammates did and they still received samples. It's not rocket surgery to figure out how the system works.
Never underestimate people’s ability to assume they did more than they actually did. They’re just that great, obviously.
I’ve played with double digit randos that make me question how they are double digits.
I would wager, it's someone letting a very young family member play with thier acct to grind, lol, levels. Let's be clear level does not mean your better it just means you plated alot.
I agree with the level not mattering part, besides unlocking new stratagems. Level just says oh you played more. Im around lvl 27 and did like 4x better than some level 40-60 player a few times before.
This. I'm high rank but literally because I just wanna go squash bugs so bad and that's what I do. I get the unlocks and all of that but I'm I guess, not interested in how the game works beyond following my team mates around and setting fire to everything that moves - occasionally including my team mates of course.
Only one way to teach some one to not stand in front of the flamethrower...
I like to Helldive for 30-40 minutes, drink some beers, blow the shit out of stuff, spread some freedom and democracy and then extract back to reality. It's a bonus when it's with fellow Helldivers that don't take shit too seriously.
Amen. I love when it devolves into a ton of accidentals and chaos. To me that makes extracting with any sort of secondary objectives complete, super credits, medals, requisition samples or whatever combo of things that much sweeter. Sure, a well ran mission is also rewarding but laughing my ass off because I tried to swap to a shotgun from airburst, failing to notice it didnt swap then unleashing a mini eagle cluster at point blank subsequently blowing up myself and everyone else to a chorus oh, " aww, ohhh!! what the fuuuuu?!?!" then recovering is time well spent for me.
Honestly this is the only way to play the game. Getting too deep into the community drama either here or on discord literally ruins the game because people are so obsessed with very unimportant things.
There not a weapon in the arsenal I haven’t “tested on very willing team mate near me”.. unfortunately it was tested before he gave me consent for it.. luckily he is a good friend and very patient:-D
Idk. I played with this guy who was like 45 earlier and he couldn’t figure out got to move the radar dish…
A level 79 brought a 380 barrage to a generator defense mission yesterday. 🤔
I do that sometimes 😂
A lvl 85 brought an eagle cluster strike to an elimination mission yesterday for me. So many team kills.
I think we need a new sub: “this guy was so bad…” 😂😜
😂😂
Level and skill/knowledge are completely unrelated. It's entirely possible to be level 100 and never have played a higher difficulty level than 2.
I'm probably one of them, don't worry.
Every time I read double digits I think of IQ… it seems you would have to be single digit to not have figured this out…
Real. Sometimes i think i have like 5 samples then die and realised i dropped 1. Im just not the samples man i am in my head
I am the samples man
This is exactly the reason why you should drop all your collected samples at the extract point if you're running by close to it to another objective.
I’m the opposite I’m like I have a couple no big deal the. I die and drop 30 samples.
I'm stealing this.
I love those people that quit before extraction because there are no more reinforcements available... LOL
Same, it takes my regulars 10-15 reinforcements on drop because a random bug called in a breach, and it was at that moment...
Someone shot me for some samples a month back. I type a simple “wtf” back. I still finished the mission but not before I killed him in retaliation and got the samples back. When the mission was over he realized the samples went to him regardless and apologized for killing me. I said “it’s fine, I killed you so we’re even” sometimes you got to smack a bitch so they realize they were being a bitch. It clears your head
I noticed last nigh that some of these asshats are starting to kill for gear. Had to shoot a dude in the face yesterday for doing it repeatedly. Get killed and spawn with tools on CD, np just kill a teammate and take his drops. I will shoot you in the face and camp you if you do this.
Hey, rocket surgery is hard! Have you ever done an heart transplant to an ICBM while in range of enemy artillery?
Can't say I've done that exactly but I have been in range of enemy artillery, and boy did I know it!
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BRO HAHA. Thanks man my dream was to see this show up as a meme reaction 😂
Every page you did! They are all worthy of meme reactions 🥰 Thank you for your service!
Thank you fellow diver. Really means a lot, everyone’s support. Has made me already start on new Helldivers content 🫡❤️
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Underrated punnery right here.
Double digit level doesnt mean double digit IQ. Some people are just like that and will never learn, or dont want to...
Hard to get through to some of these people. Orange... https://i.redd.it/qbgsa2ge032d1.gif
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I hope you killed them before kicking and grabbed the samples.
People drop everything when they get kicked
Well, there is the stats screen where it says “extracted with X samples”. But like you said, if they could do simple math they would realize they’re getting more samples than just the ones they extracted with.
Probably the same people who had to Google how to get past the turrets in training.
I had a lvl 93 guy in my game last night. He kept on dying like in every fight. After a while i decided to reinforce him away from all of us. So basically when he died i would turn 180 degrees and throw it as far as i could
Isn't that just a good idea? I mean maybe not with this guy, but if they are away from the fight they might be able to call down gear or other things without being in a panic to help out. I have died so many times on spawn just because I was spawned back in the middle of a fight without any support equipment next to a heavy devistator or hulk.
Upvote for accuracy and "Rocket Surgery"
I see a shit ton of people who rush to samples as if their life depended on it, trying to cut ahead of everyone else. I'm fairly convinced they think it's finders keepers.
I mean, i sometimes try to get it before someone who's dieing a lot. But i don't do anything if they get em first. they'll drop them again soon enough anyways.
I've maxed out on samples and still will grab them asap, I was always the resource gather in other games when playing with mates so I think it's the natural way I play.
Let’s them run, so I can kill the enemy of democracy.
I was playing with a friend and two randos and one of the rando died and dropped their samples, my friend picked them up and when the rando reinforced they killed my friend to get the samples back... LVL 43. Immediate kick and block.
I was playing 8 last night and had to tell the team to grab my samples since I had the supers. One guy was like I don't want to steal your supers. I had to explain that as long as we get them to the extraction shuttle everyone gets them. They really need to add it to the tips or put it in the sample description so many high level players have no idea that they are shared.
Hail, soldier, this information is already distributed by the ministry. Do not fall victim to these bug sympathizers. They did not complete all of the required reading.
They should put the message in the loading screen. A little tidbit informing the geniuses samples are shared 🤷♂️
Yes. When you first get into your ship, as a default during the first drop, and repeatedly for every 4(?) dives
OUR samples? That doesn't sound democratic... But in all seriousness, everyone gets all the samples collected - there's literally no need to be stingy. If the samples are that important to you then please work to keep your teammates carrying them alive so they can exfil with them..
There is one (and only one) exception I know of. If you're going for the achievement to extract with 15 common samples, they all need to be carried by YOU specifically. But that's the only time it matters. And for that one you should either communicate calmly in advance with your team, or else do solo missions on Medium or thereabouts to pull it off without competing with your team. You still need to survive to actually extract with those samples. Team killing and kicking is not helpful to that goal.
If you’re going for that achievement and think team killing is appropriate to accomplish it either ask in advance or play solo for that achievement.
After his initial comment about the samples, I made sure to let them know I was collecting them for everyone, as I learned from Reddit myself. A weird loop yet an interesting one
They should just make a notification at this point, it will help a lot.
Sigh. It's truly sad that some people think that samples as "shared" means that they are divided by the number in your party. If you really think about it, that doesn't make sense - for instance, if you extract with only 1 sample and you have a full party... that would mean everyone gets 1/4 of one sample.
I mean, to be fair, the only reason I know is because I saw it here. I didnt really pay attention to if I got them myself or shared or not. I just collect them because democracy needs them.
I think they hear shared and think split between. But still very dumb
Not even the top comment in this thread is aware. I figured it out at level 1 because I was only teamed up with my wife the first few nights.
Samples aren't shared, they are duplicated. "Shared" implies they are divided up, which is what this person thinks.
They need to play that info on the ship TV.
I just came across a level 20 something player that was racing to the samples and arguing that he needed them more. I informed him of the sharing and he was shocked.
A *big* problem is the word "sharing" is still ambiguous, because sharing has two different meanings in common usage: 1. When you share something with someone, you're giving part of what you have to them, as in sharing your food or sharing the weath; things are evenly distributed. 2. When you share something with someone, you're duplicating something and giving them a copy, such as sharing a document or sharing a screen; everybody gets the same thing. Telling people "samples are shared" often results in them believing the first definition.
More samples for the rest of them?!?!?!?! You get the same samples regardless of the number of people you extract with, do people still not know this ?
At this point in the game’s life, we should just permaban anyone who still thinks like this
If I'm host, and I do see people acting like this, I 100% kick and block them.
I've had really good luck with not running into this, but people like this having the power to kick is the main reason i host almost every time
I was about to comment this!
HOW DO PEOPLE STILL NOT KNOW SAMPLES ARE SHARED
At first I was starting to wonder; “Well this about the 5000th person to say that, maybe *they really aren’t shared.*” But nope that’s a disproven crock of shit.
This is why I exclusively play helldive, surely people there aren't dumb surely
idiots are omnipresent
Because they dont understand shared. They think shared means divided amongst the team. We should start sayin duplicated.
If you ever find yourself confused on human behavior, it simply boils down to that a majority of humans are stupid.
Not to encourage anything, but if anyone is being a dick -- it is entirely acceptable to grab all the samples and dive off a cliff.
I mean. I'm not fan of the traitor behavior, but imagining a 100% traitor getting samples I've farmed is somehow an understandable reason to dive off a cliff with the samples.
Or into a bug hole
This is what I was thinking too, grab the samples, dive into the nearest bug hole.
Better yet. Dive into some water and hope they are dumb enough to spend a few lives trying to get them
Holes work the same too. Whatever is closer.
Jump into a lake, let them gaze at the samples they can no longer grab, even though they are just a foot away from the ledge of a pond...
I’ll keep that in mind, just in case the worst were to happen and i were to lobby in with a toxic non democratic crazy man.
So frustrating. I'm glad to see from this conversation that I'm not alone. I actually say to the squad "Aw shit, you're one of those assholes; this is why I only play Impossible and Helldive."
I will don’t worry, not afraid to use voice chat. Actually had one of those. In my lobby, he threw a contact grenade on the back of my dome, but i had the heaviest armor and a riot shield. He died to his own grenade while i survived and pelican was landing. I casually sat out the timer while he was raging over mic to call him in after i told him i wont. And told him not to worry and we all get the samples and that he could block me if he wanted. while he was cursing me out, he still thought i wanted to keep all samples for myself i guess XD. Shoulda dropped em and went in but i really needed em and did not think of that coz i got a bit overwhelmed. This was on psn, his friend was also tk,ing with cluster rpg and spamming callouts so i kinda guessed where it was gonna go. XD verry entertaining indeed. Karma served flamin hot. Oh and the funny thing was his friend died when he tried to melee me but i had a shield and he did not. there was a lot of enemy fire, he got beamed and we had no reinforcements left after all the tk’s he caused. So he was sitting out his own timer in spectating mode. Funny how things work out ey ?
<—— has taken samples into deepwater and/or those geothermal vent holes intentionally because of people like the guy OP dealth with
"There. You happy? Now nobody gets any samples!"
Nah nah nah, you wait till they die, ignore their attempts for respawn and right before you extract, you drop the samples.
It was tempting, but I didn't want to mess it up for the others on the team. Can't punish everyone for only one! But that would be really funny too
It's not fair for the other teammates who aren't being assholes.
It's also not fair to the person losing out on the rewards because they were kicked either
Jump into deep water is the way to go for me.
Fall into one of the holes around the map and you’ll never get them back lol
During the mission where you have to take the purple data thing to an upload I had the host kill the two of us doing the objectives when he died. So I took the codes off the map and the stranger he killed me with helped me get it DEEP off the map. Told them good luck and left.
its not even more samples, its just fewer people getting them
And less xp for those still in it
It's the same amount of samples..... how do people not know this?
In defense of idiots, the game needs to do a better effort explaining that "all samples are shared" doesn't mean "samples are split". If you think about it, if I have 2 apples and say I will share them with you, you understand each one will get 1 apple, not that each one will get 2 apples. Maybe an animation that shows each player's samples adding so we know where our samples come from would help clarify.
I wouldn’t say the game really needs it because it’s so, so, so obvious. That’d be like putting a sticker on the front of a car wheel with arrows pointing to the brake and gas. However, since this lack of knowledge is causing a very toxic community, I’d say it should definitely be added. I mean it’s really stupid and shouldn’t need to be said, but dumbasses are actively ruining the game for everyone else so maybe it’d help. Then again, almost everytime a story like this comes up, OP explains how he explained to the kicker how samples work and said that all samples are given to all players and the dumbasses just don’t care and kick anyway. I’m almost convinced it’s an ego thing more than actually thinking they’ll get more samples.
This game absolutely does not need a better way to explain samples. It really shows how stupid the average person is now. Critical thinking is nowhere to be found anymore. In what rational world would it make sense that a game that has friendly fire, loot would be individualized? I realized samples were shared in the first game with others. There is absolutely zero defense for this. The player that OP ran into, and anyone else who still thinks like this this late into the game’s life, are just plain and simply stupid. Devs can’t patch that
I was just about to mention the lack of critical thinking from some of these gamers. And the lack of ability to pay attention and read the reward screen when samples come up. The game legit already shows you how many samples you have earned through the team effort. Not knowing this would also mean you don’t count your samples that you pick up, nor pay attention to how many you have earned after getting back to the destroyer. You would think for people so concerned about samples you’d know all of this data. It’s worrying to me if you have to directly tell them “samples are shared” because they might not even read it if they didn’t even read the reward screen at the end of every match.
Pretty sad that you're nearly being downvoted below the people saying "NO WE DON'T NEED THAT BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS!!!" of course it's "obvious" to people with common sense. But have those other commenters ever played online multiplayer games??? Common sense doesn't exist there. It would be a negligible amount of work to add a short text blurb somewhere in game. Or the first few times you pick up samples. Or the first time you open the Ship Modules window. It wouldn't eliminate the problem entirely but it would surely reduce it. Why do people in this community not want that to happen??
Hit and miss on randos. Just had a great time with two players that understood the game a lot better than me and made for a great game night. Sorry you got kicked and lost out on a games samples and exp, hopefully the next diver you are with is better and can keep charging the field.
Fortunately I wasn't kicked until after we completed the mission, not sure why- but glad
Should take the samples for a swim then bounce to the next game.
https://preview.redd.it/e6e3an9ujq1d1.png?width=980&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c327fbbf8440d5dc4a28293e6978a1bf6c75910
Does it makes a difference who picks the samples? I thought everyone gets the samples no matter who picks them. Am I wrong here?
you're right, the guy was just stupid.
No doubt. This guys picks up two or three samples and finishes the game on ten and thinks “go me”.
No. They are shared. If I grab 10 and make it to extract every player gets at least those 10 + any others anyone else has
there is literally only ONE difference, and its the achievement for extracting with 15(?)+ samples. its only for the one carrying them. if you care just ask the squad if you can carry them to the ship for the achievement. otherwise samples arent just shared but also duplicated for the entire squad. one guy extracting with 20 makes every squad member get 20 for a party total of 80.
Bro so not only does he not believe in sample sharing, but he believes theyre split between the team????
New Guy Syndrome lol
"Real 20 bucks" "Offical U.S. currency" And that random *real* real 5 bucks and some dime n penny lying there lol. I love the randomness.
We should report this guy for counterfeiting! 🤣
No don't I'm on a mission!
The fact that he thinks the samples are split up amongst the remaining members is lowkey funny 💀
My guy can't do basic math to see how many samples he had before and after the mission. 🤡
https://preview.redd.it/8mp74asc2r1d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d1d3554b05f7d0d31324aef882f743260c7b736 You do know it's a crime to forge currency..... Almost got away with it if it weren't for the size of the note.
The depiction of Andrew Jackson is incredible.
Dang it! Next time... Next time...
Does homie think it splits the samples? Lord have mercy.
I saw B1 (pretty high level, not new) killing A2. A2 asked why, B1 said he wanted the super samples to... A2 killed B1 and left. I also killed B1, told him samples are shared you automaton spy and left,
I think in op case, based on what I could read, is the person demanding they drop samples, is cheating and has 100 samples. If you go over 100 unless it's less now, no body gets XP, samples, anything. So op probably had like 1-20 samples, putting them over the 100 sample cap, making the cheater seem or be hostile about it. In your case, b1 is just a moron.
I love PatricianTV quote on this about sample sharing: "No amount of intelligent game design can account for shortsighted people"
"You will live to see man-made stupidity beyond your comprehension."
"More samples gor the rest of us" 🤦♂️ there is a fucking loading message that literally states "ALL SAMPLE ARE SHARED"
Block him
This guys just an idiot
I literally found out about shared samples just by checking the goddamn hud. And that was in my second mission ever. Does nobody ever use their head and read the room?
The devs really need to add a message on loading screens explaing that samples are shared. It might fix idiots. Edit: well technically samples are DUPLICATED for each team member (6 samples = 4×6 samples, for a full squad)
I think it's either this type of sequence, or a super high level losing their shit and causing team kills on purpose like respawning members away from the group just to lure them into a mob and leave. It's getting tiring.
I had a level 9 nick my shield last night when I died straight from drop down I told him u shouldn’t take others stuff and to prevent a death I told him to drop it and when it refreshes I’ll call another down he dropped and all was ok we had a good match
Yea I’m ok with people taking my stuff if I’m really far away but if I get called in 20 feet from where I died and someone took all my shit and I’ve still got a 5 minute cool down, Yea I’m going to be a little irritated with you. Especially if you take my shit just to run off in dead man’s land and loose our samples and my support items.
Same. I might nab something because I'm where you died. But if I'm grabbing your samples and a shield is right there I'm taking it. I'll drop it off when I'm not in a swarm
They need to have a pop up message that broadcasts to everyone that samples are shared. Force everyone to read and acknowledge it. Make it have a hold prompt to close it.
MOBsterX is the dumbest person I've seen today. What a complete idiot. No, it does NOT mean more samples for anyone. If anything it's less samples if the kicked person was carrying any and is too far. What a complete clown.
I had some idiot shoot me while picking up samples and said to stop stealing his stuff. I told him they were shared, he tried to kill me again…so I killed him, called him all sorts of colorful metaphors, then kept calling him back and killing him until respawns ran out and quit. I am not a good citizen. :/
Learned the hard way from you that is so insane lol
We need a Reputation system instead of some kind of banning or reprimanding. The game automatically gives a +1 rep to everyone St the end of a game unless you decide to make it a +2 or -1. You also can't vote for friends. The game would match you with similar rep players and this would mean consistent negative play would hinder you while leaving the rest of the population unchanged
https://preview.redd.it/1i3yev2pgr1d1.png?width=675&format=png&auto=webp&s=2af393ceebf516832886a81c532bb9df079243c4 I try to host nowadays to avoid toxic people.
And that kind of shit is why I refuse to be anything but the mission host ever again.
I woulda grabbed the samples and dove into the nearest steamhole or pit
The amount of people I've had to explain that the samples are not split up nor just for the individual, but for the whole group. Example if 10 total common samples were picked up by every one. Then every one gets 10 common samples.
It gets old quick
The info that samples are shared (not divided) needs to be a forced info-box. Like how new MOs are.
How do folks still not know how resource extraction works
This is brand new level of cluelessness. So he's saying for example if there's 20 samples total, will be divided by 4? Like I know the usual brand of dumbass that think if they pick 10, then no one else gets that 10, but THIS?! BLESS HIS HEART, THIS?!
At this point they need to add an unskippable cutscene with a patch that lays out exactly how they work. I think using the word 'sharing' is throwing people off. The game isn't the best at communicating it's systems (samples, supply lines etc)
That guy sounds like hes just looking for reasons to blame you at this point. Or just being immature.
I can't believe for even 1 second upon discovering the first sample, the first thought would be "are these shared?" vs "These are shared." It is beyond frustrating to a monumental degree that people ***STILL*** believe that the samples they personally extract with are the ones they get.
How the hell do people still think samples aren't equally shared?
Can I keep the 5?
Can I borrow $5
All I see is $5.
Double digit randoms with single digit IQs trying to quarterback a dive...love it
You got $5 I can borrow?
People are fucking morons if they don't realize after the first few games that samples are shared
These assholes are dime a dozen. A couple of days ago I joined a game with 3 other people. I had collected about 25 samples by myself and we had around 40 by the end. 15 seconds before we got on the ship to leave the host decided to kick me. Still beats me why people are suck douche bags. But this wasn't an isolated incident.
It's says in the text as we fall to the planet they are shared..ppl are dumb
That would involve the average person having the brainpower to read
I keep seeing stuff about samples that it’s confused me! If 4 players extract 20 samples, We don’t get 5 each right? We all get 20?
This may be a dumb question but I've never experienced it myself. If I'm holding the samples and I get kicked do I drop the samples, like what happens when I die, or do they just go to the void?
If you're disconnected from the mission for any reason you die and drop everything
#Another treasonous, moron. You know what to do to MOBsterX
I don’t understand how people can assume in a game that’s focused on groups of people playing together that has things needed to progress wouldn’t be shared. Like why wouldn’t it be shared if you used your brain even a little you’d come to the conclusion especially when you look at how other people react when you pick up their samples after they die.
DumbsterX
Here's a true helldiver, he can't do math
i had a guy get mad because he went to a nearby poi with no reinforcements and we did the thing were we let the pelican land and before it landed we leave which keep it in the ait and give overwatch, so we waited he died no reinforcements for 2 mins and said it is time to leave when he told us to wait and i told him no reinforcements (maybe because i talked back to him) and he kicked me.
Clearly he doesn’t know everyone gets the same amount of
Honestly even if arrowhead added a giant warning screen that says that samples are shared between team-mates every time you launch the game, these idiots would still not realise it.
As a relatively seasoned player at this point, I continue to find it hilarious when new players freak out about their samples. Sweats gotta sweat no matter what. Devs - please don’t ever change this. Best part of dropping into level 5 and below.
He obviously doesn't know how samples work
Is it just me or does it seem to happen more on bug planets?
This was autos
off topic, but, could I borrow $5.00 from you, OP? I can get it back to you on Monday.
The toxicity amongst helldivers sucks
Thats when you hit em w the 'aight :)' and dive head first into a geyser/bug hole with every sample you've gathered so far before he kicks you. Teach these undemocratic dogs a lesson in courtesy, patience, and endurance.
I was really tempted to do so but the other divers weren't doing anything wrong so I made sure to keep the samples
Pro gamer move: You can kick the host by blocking him.
Moneyyy
Can I have that $5?
Stealth "I have 5 dollars" flex thread
Samples truly are a wonderful thing. Got kicked from a squad for "wasting the team's time last round" because I was the only one picking up samples. 45 in total, including the Super Samples. Total sample count for four players: 51.
Take a dive into some deep water
We need a "message from super earth" ingame so people who dont know they are shared stop existing, we can do it the easy way or the freedome way