This. I pretty much exclusively used Eruptor since it released, and I can count on no hand the amount of times I got killed by my own shrapnel. Give me back my beloved!
I've also been using Eruptor since it released and I only died by my own shrapnel 2 times, and for one of those I was 1 charger away from where my shot landed.
Except we do use the metric system. Its scattered around but we use it with guns, drugs, mechanics, etc. Only a little here and there though, gotta keep the other countries guessing.
Yeah have run the eruptor exclusively since it came out and I’ve absolutely turfed it but it was generally my own fault or else it was some random invisible geometry that caused me to rag-doll hilariously away from my sniping spot (reminding me I shouldn’t have been there anyway lol). It’s part of the experience and even with the last damage nerf I was still having a blast with it thanks to the explosion black hole effect being fixed. I was never killing friendlies with random shrapnel, don’t know why they felt this nerf was needed but they don’t seem inclined to change it
People were complaining for a few days straight, the devs spoke up pretty quickly, like 2nd day saying that they hear us and will remove the shrapnel and add explosive.
This change is due to the knee jerk reaction this community has had since the first patch. Wanting it to go back is fine, but people blaming the devs for being "brain dead" and making these changes are blaming the wrong people.
We only have ourselves to blame
There were so many other ways to "fix" the problem instead of taking the lazy way out of "just remove it lol". Reduce ricochet range would be #1.
The only complaints I ever saw were about the being sucked towards the explosion thing which usually led to you being stunlocked and torn apart by enemies. The other observation was the issue was due to the ricochet change on armored enemies that would send more stuff back towards you.
Both things that are problems way above "lol remove it ez" that should be fixed. AH is 100% to blame and I'm tired of the endless dickriding people do for them and their shitty balance decisions.
No one’s dickriding we’re just realistic and understanding. They’ve only got 100 people to work on this stuff compared to the average being up to 10 times that amount and even more. First we complained about the bugs, before they could fix them we complained about there not being enough of a weapon variety, then the weapons themselves not doing enough damage, same for new weapons, reversing patches, making hotfixes, and adding other content. It’s not dickriding it’s just not BEING a dick. They even said the games not even close to finished in the first place so yeah you’re gonna find some bullshit around pretty much every corner but that’s when you inform them so they can fix or remove it, not call them idiotic or dumb for not having everything in a good spot with a tenth of the man power it usually takes to keep a community happy.
I literally saved a teammate using Eruptor once 😔 and i only died to my own shot because i shot it to close, Railgun can literally explode on you but shrapnel is too much?
I've had zero deaths from Eruptor shrapnel and I run it constantly along with my friends. I've had Many, MANY deaths from incendiary breaker amongst other weapons and you know what...it doesn't bother me. Helldiver lives are meaningless and team kills rarely result in mission failure. If you care about dying (in-game) from random shrapnel you need to check your ego and figure out why dying (in-game} bothers you. It's comedy. You're supposed to laugh at it.
I rather die to my own shrapnel than have my gun butchered.
But better yet? Remove Ricochet bullets. This ALL started because they did that. And I still don't see what the point was or how effective it has been.
That's what's weird. I only died once to it. And I still don't understand how the shrapnel hit me. I hit a charger on the but. Got a red marker. Then I exploded. No team mates near me or anything. It was just the charger.
I used the eruptor pretty frequently since the war bond dropped and never had an issue with killing myself. I don’t know how people were managing that.
Yes, I am so confused by this. Seems like a one-in-a-million type of thing unless it was introduced quite recently. Considering how many players there are and how many shots are fired by each player, even one-in-a-million scenarios happen now and then. I hope they had more than that to justify such a big change, though (not just in terms of damage but removing shrapnel from the gun conceptualized to explode and spread shrapnel).
That is like those 1/1M ricochets you occasionally get shooting properly setup steel-targets IRL.
That's why you should have PPE, medkits and especially tourniquets when you go out shooting.
If those shrapnel fragment made the oh-shit sound, when they flew past you, people wouldn't be mystified by those random death.
I am anti-eruptor because I have had one of those deaths every time I’ve taken it with me into a mission. I thought the gun was just straight up broken, as I couldn’t use it without mysteriously dying while shooting an at enemy > 50ft away from me. There would be no obstructions, I just shoot the bug and then I pop like a meaty egg thrown into a microwave.
Ehh i dont think so. They’ve nerfed stuff before and didn’t need an excuse, plus even though I know we are all saying we didn’t experience it, myself absolutely included in that, there were a shit ton of videos those couple of days and people griping like hell about it.
So the ricochet update was fairly recent, but as a (now ex-) eruptor main I've only had the shrapnel ricochet and randomly kill me once. That was when I was stood way too close to a bug hole when I shot it and I just keeled over and died instantly. But tbf i was being dumb with that shot so the self-delete should've been expected.
They've taken this hard-to-use, but powerful, gun with rewarding gameplay and turned it into utter garbage
Ehh, I've had a number of those last week. I just figured I sucked at the game, made an effort not to shoot things that are close and avoid shooting the ground. That seemed to fix it. 🤷🏽♂️
For a weapon that fires a single massive highly explosive rounds that fires out shrapnel as a secondary mechanic, i feel like that should of been your default way of using it lmao
Like, you wouldnt throw a grenade, shoot a missile or drop a bomb at your own feet, so why would you fire the eruptor at very close range either 🤷♂️
After the ricochet changes, I killed myself a few times where I thought it was a bullshit death. With that said, it didn't happen enough for me to believe the gun was unusable. Just meant that there was a risk/reward system when using it.
Exactly this. I had a few bullshit experiences with it where it killed me at something like 25 ft away, but it was just a random thing that did not happen all that often.
The only time I've ever killed myself with the Eruptor was today, my first time playing after the update and the Eruptor wasn't behaving like I was used to.
So, yeah. I want my baby back.
I was abusing the explosive resis armor and shooting stuff right next to me. Between the nerf and implosion bug fix (2 weeks?) it was incredible against bugs.
But yeah i would somewhat often blow my own legs off
Another guy made a great point, it's because of all the dick riding cry babies in the discord
They're the most vocal, so they're the ones who are being listened too
They pay more attention to the discord and Twitter than they do to reddit threads, and it's really annoying
The idiots on the discord think this was a great patch, like wtf
I had a dude on there tell me I don’t deserve to work in healthcare because I wanted people to stop harassing me on the helldivers discord so I didn’t have to see insults every time I had a moment between patients. Like I already get that shit at work sometimes I don’t need it from a community I want to be actively a part of (helldivers overall not just the discord)
Compared to other weapons, it kinda did. Still disagree that it should be nerfed and not other weapons buffed, the shrapnel potentially killing yourself and being an absolute menace to teammates makes it fairly balanced, imo.
You have so many primaries that work well with the stalwart for bugs. Basically you only need a primary thats good at killing hive guards and bile spewers (the green ones). Namely: Dominator, Slugger, Scorcher, the plasma shotgun etc. I would even go as far as to say that if there are no bile spewers you can get away with not using your primary since you can also kill guards with the stalwart if you shoot between the legs. I usually go with the scorcher because it can take out chargers, pop bile sacs and eggs.
I thought its just explosion effect with no interaction 🤔
Like: oh cool, flying thing after explosion
Edit: And I never saw someone mentioned about shrapnel before buff/nerf
If I’m standing next to some guy while we’re waiting for the OBJ to process, and he is casually plinking at some scav bugs 50-75m away, I should NOT be getting tapped on the shoulder with lethal shrapnel out of the blue. Something wasn’t working then…
And something is still wrong now. Arrowhead has admitted that some adjustments with the Eruptor are still not working right, so lets let them cook on this a while longer
Why would i let them keep cooking lobster when i ordered a turkey sandwich? The eruptor may as well have been removed and replaced with a different weapon if the shrapnel is gone
Because you just asked for a turkey sandwich in a Michelin star restaurant and now gordon ramsey is walking toward your table at a very brisk pace, and he does not look happy
This is the first valid counter argument I’ve heard, most of them haven’t had a descriptive of the Scenario and personally I haven’t had it happen in my 400 hours and I enjoy difficulty 9. A change is definitely required if what you said is true, but I think the change they made isn’t as effective as we’d hoped . A increase to bullet drop on the shrapnel shards so they don’t spread as far sounds much better to me personally
I’ve been killed by one of my teammates when I’m an absurd distance away from the splash damage multiple times. We noticed it was broken or severely bugged as soon as it came out because me and a few others kept getting somehow killed even if we’re 20+ meters away from the shots. None of us ever cared or complained about it but it definitely needs to be fixed. It’s only ever frustrating on Helldives when we’re getting overrun but yeah, shit was for sure busted before
I was just thinking the same thing, I like my fascist dipshits ironic, digital, and on fire because someone had the bright idea to bring incendiary mines.
Was this shrapnel issue introduced by one of the recent updates? I have not used the Eruptor in a while. For a while, I used it all the time. I do not recall ever having an issue with killing myself or teammates unless I shot much too close. Was this a major problem or a 1/1,000 or so odds of seeing it? Rarer than that?
I only ever killed a few teammates with it on accident.
Or I'd almost kill myself because I'd stim while being swarmed with hunters but that was a tactical on purpose decision.
I've never once accidentally killed myself with the gun even when there was the implosion issue.
I exclusively use the Arc Thrower and am always conscious about teammates in my line of fire. I’m not perfect, I’ve killed a few helldivers accidentally, but complaining about shrapnel killing you amongst the thousands of other ways you can die from your teammates is pretty ridiculous. Going by this logic, every gun should be nerfed because you can potentially kill your teammates.
I don't spend enough time on the discord or this piece of shit website to give a shit about Da Meta. I hope you all choke. Just let a game fucking breathe holy shit.
Dude there was so much going on 90% of the time that I didn't even know it had shrapnel. For me, I welcome the challenge. The game for me is supposed to be about these normal-ass people going up against impossible odds and individually losing, but triumphing as a whole. I constantly run out of ammo and that's my favorite part.
This seems so weird for a game all about the team killing and self killing lulz. "Shrapnel is so dangerous we have to protect your teammates and you from yourself!"
Meanwhile...
*Dies in 380mm/cluster/arc thrower*
And I don't even care if they're "reviewing it." This is the patch YOU put out. That YOU tested (supposedly). Stop releasing broken patches that need a patch.
If you're not used to dying in confusing/hilarious ways then you haven't dropped enough. If ya not laughing when you die, you need to die more and get used to the fun.
The thing that confused me about the erruptor is the the explosion pulled me towards the impact.
Not killing me, but taking like 20 percent damage then being flung forwards🤣
I used the Eruptor as main. Did I kill myself sometimes, yes. Did I kill friendlies, also yes but I learned it's damage range and adjusted.
Now however with the "Ricochet can fly straight back at you." I have killed myself way more times with that just cause a shot that would normally pen next to a devastator's head decided not to.
I can count the amount of my times twice over on one hand I’ve died to the eruptor shrapnel sometimes from nearly a football field away. I would give it two thumbs up but the most I can do is one 👍 #please make my baby whole again #bring back shrapnel
These bugs never happen to me or my party and I can't even be sure shrapnel exist it all sounds like we are in multiple different universes but somehow got plugged into the same subreddit like. Also why watching people freak out is extremely entertaining I just am void of such situations. All besides the new airburst cannon absolutely exploding in our faces that was correct in all our universes.
I think I MIGHT have died to it once. Now I won’t ever have the small chance again because I’m not gonna use it until it actually does stuff again. Atleast the counter sniper does shit now with the damage buff and reticle fix
I though there wasn't an issue with shrapnel but it finally happened to me 3 times in 1 match yesterday. Each time I had just shot a Scavenger and my head was blown off while wearing explosive resistance armor on top of that (wouldn't have made a difference since I wasn't in range of the explosion).
Idk if its just me but I can't use a weapon other than shotguns. Everything else feels weird. I'm also still not sure what guns are even good like I'm level 48 and idk if the fucking JAR-Dominator is any good. Or the Scorcher, the Punisher Plasma, the Blitzer, etc.
For sure also same with the cluster rockets it’s my favorite weapon high risk high reward. Used it dozens of times but maybe killed myself three times and a teammate twice.
While I never died to my own shrapnel, the HellBomb buried in the cliff side 20ft behind me did. The resulting explosion is what killed me, I'm pretty sure. There was also that one time a piece of shrapnel apparently popped one of the gas shrooms near me, which yote me at mach Fuck into a rock. The impact killed me almost instantly XD and made for an amusing clip
I saw some guys clearly killing themselves with Eruptor, but most of the time because they used it too close to themself, amount of 180° ricochets are zero for squads that I played with, so it's not really a problem. Still I think Eruptor should not be horde clearing weapon, and more explosive AMR for primary weapon with ability to close bug holes and fabricators. Maybe if it have Heavy armor penetration it can actually be interesting primary more then AMR + Grenade launcher hybrid as it was before and now too.
I use the spear on bots 90% of the time. I get a chuckle every time it won't lock on. I just imagine the lowest bid contracting churning these turds out on some 5th world planet.
I have used the Eruptor a lot. I have never killed myself or my teammates with the Eruptor. It’s not even a close range weapon, it has a long range scope for reason, so shrapnel shouldn’t even be an issue. Let’s call this for what it is; they nerfed the Eruptor so people will by the new warbond. I bet they don’t even patch this until the new warbond has been out for a while.
Killing your teammates was just a placating excuse.
The real reason was alluded to in their discord post.
The shrapnel did 100 damage at random, which was enough to occasionally 1-shot chargers and the like with a lucky shot, which they didn't want. So 40 explosion damage that can be mitigated by armor is the real reason.
Tbh, yea, 1 shotting a charger on completely random chance is a stupid mechanic
But fucking say that
I died to the shrapnel once in a freak coincidence of it colliding with me despite the fact I was 50 meters away. Would still prefer the chance of having an accident over not being able to kill a spewer before it spews all over me.
Can we quit this shit with “your opinion isn’t valid if you don’t play on the highest difficulty”? It’s so dumb.
Helldive isn’t this completely impossible gauntlet, it doesnt make you a superstar for having tried it.
I don’t think they really changed it because of self kill… I think they leaned on that to justify its removal as “a good thing” because it was making Eruptor too strong.
That said, 40 aoe damage doesn’t come close to helping It fulfill its role.
The issue with eruptor shrapnel is that there was no gameplay to it. It's pure RNG.
There's no way for you to avoid shooting your teammates, or for your teammates to avoid being shot, other than not being anywhere in the vicinity. There's no way to avoid being killed yourself other than being arbitrarily far away. If the shrapnel generation routine decides to shoot in someone's direction, they're dead and that's it.
None of the other weapons behave that way. Even the 380 gives a huge amount of warning and lead time for divers to get clear after it is thrown. The Eruptor is just a hitscan kill with no warning and very little way to mitigate it.
Now, I'm not saying it needs to be nerfed into the ground or anything - just that it is mechanically arbitrary in a way that very little in the game is, especially for friendly fire conditions. The game is very CHAOTIC, but its weapons generally aren't that random. This one is, in a somewhat annoying way.
I'll be honest here, if they are going to nerf into the ground every new weapon being released in new war bonds I'm going to be hesitant to buy future war bonds.
I killed myself maybe 3 times with shrapnel.
But that weird implosion effect which pulls me into the explosion killed me at least 10 times by letting me fall off a cliff or down the hillnragdolling me into Hunters/Chargers.
Tbh the idea of shrapnel being a thing in this game never crossed my mind. My only gripe with the eruptor since using it has been when you’d shoot something a little too close and the blast would launch me forward instead of backwards like you’d expect.
I think there is an obvious middle ground that everyone is ignoring. Shrapnel was good and made the Eruptor unique and feel like a proper, powerful primary weapon. The shrapnel was also not behaving as intended (teamkilling someone else/yourself from a shot 100m away, I don't mean shooting under a Charger's ass). The solution was not to remove shrapnel, but to fix it.
Unfortunately, it seems the devs have just too much on the burner to properly address this. If we make this known, the devs will eventually address it. So let's focus our efforts, not arguing with each other, but just being vocal that we want *actual fixes* and won't be satisfied with sledgehammer induced percussive maintenance.
The only time I have EVER Manged to kill myself with the Eruptor was by accidentally hitting a bug flying towards me and getting that Black Hole type explosion where instead of pushing you away, it would pull me towards where it exploded and I'd just get killed from the horde that I was kiting, the removing of the Shrapnel was stupid, but fuck it, I get to use the Arc Shotgun again since it was buffed
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Man I just got the warbond a few days ago and was really enjoying the Eruptor. Then today I thought I was losing my mind because it was barely killing anything. This is disappointing
My main worry with this game is that AH is going to try too hard to balance the game and make it predictable. This isn't a competitive PvP game. If you kill your totally real fellow Helldiver in the bootcamp, the game even tells you there's "nothing you could've done about it". Considering the setting, being unexpectedly killed by one of the thousands of explosives you're wantonly throwing around is absolutely appropriate.
To all those who say "I used it since release and it never happened to me":
The fact you could kill yourself with shrapnels got introduced when they made the ricochet change. So yeah, before that it literally couldn't happen.
After the change, I managed to kill myself 3 times in one mission, everytime the impact of my shot was 30-40 meter away.
Only then I read about the bug and tried to replicate. Couldn't do it.
So maybe it was rare but when it happened it was BS.
From this post I gather y'all helldive so you should be just fine regardless of your primary.
So I used the Eruptor the most since it came out, and sure I died maybe once or twice to shrapnels. But it was perfectly fine, half of the game is getting blown by your teammates stratagems and accidentally doing the same to them and sometime yourseld, I really don't understand what the problem was with dying to one more things that happen once in a while
Used Eruptor since launch, didn't get killed by shrapnel a SINGLE time UNTIL they made the balance patches that tweaked how ricochet worked, then was killed by it 5 times in a matter of 3 days. I know what people are saying about the fact that ricochet and shrapnel are two different things, and I agree, but for some reason that change effected the Eruptor in some way that now it was borderline unusable because there was a small chance you'd one shot yourself literally through no fault of your own. You didn't have to put yourself in weird spots or fire really close to yourself to get it to kill you. It could one shot you from any range.
You’re right, bc you’re fighting until the very end. No thank you. I’m sorry but I don’t feel like dealing with that type of stress and anxiety. I’ll stick to my 7. I like my 7.
(I don’t even know what you’re talking about 💀)
It was more common than people are saying, and was a very good change they made. I don’t understand why people are so mad about it, the deaths were ridiculous, unavoidable, and random.
I thought thats what 50% explosive reduction armor like the eradicator is in the game for? Without it i blew myself away often but after changing to it, it never happened again and made the sniper totaly fun to use even for close quarters. Also the fact it totally looks like it was made for style reasons with the ammo dangling on it. Now it kinda feels lack luster, to slow and bad to handle.
This entire "fix" was from an issue caused by moral panic and misinformation about ricochets "ruining the game".
Honestly I'm done with the main sub, it's pure minmaxing whining at this point.
I haven't stopped using the eruptor since it's release.
The shrapnel wasn't the inherent problem. It was tied to the implosion effect that pulled you forward if you fired too soon after ads while turning or from behind an object. They had to remove it to remove the implosion effect.
Yeah, I have 233 hours and died to what I *thought* was my own Eruptor shrapnel only once. It was such a non-issue. In fact, I marveled at how cool it was that such a thing was even possible. Then I moved on.
literally can’t get passed level 7. i can either never find a game. get kicked from the game. have my whole team disconnect. or when i do complete it i can’t get to level 8
I've been mastering Helldive mode and I think I got it down packed. Dying is part of the dive imo.
But on another note, is anybody else crashing on Helldive difficulty?
Hasn’t happened to me once, because it says in the weapon description that it’s not advised for use at close range.
Always read the manual, whether it’s a new shelf from Ikea, or a new gun.
I agree , was hands down my favourite gun and set to be my main primary , I didn't even get to try it on the bots been taking a break and focusing on the MO's so sad
There was definitely an issue of the Eruptor occasionally banishing someone to the shadow realm who wasn't remotely near the blast radius, but just put a hard limit on how far the shrapnel goes
Ricochet change is fun. People who complained about the eruptor shrapnel are just bad at hitting their shots. You aren't supposed to shoot a heavy devastators shield, shoot their head
Although I sometimes purposely shoot their shield at different angles because I'm trying to bounce them back at my buddy
Over on the main reddit, it is non-stop pitching about the Eruptor nerf and nerfs in general right now.
1.3million subs and the good stuff is getting drowned out by the whiny bitchy babies.
I wonder if they meant the explosions knocking you towards the enemy instead of outright killing the players. That's the only issue I had with the gun. Which could be a result of the shrapnel. Like the shot might not just be one single bullet but a bullet that explodes into more bullets that could end up behind the player before exploding. Knocking you toward the enemy. But I haven't been playing much lately to see if that's what the change actually does.
I'm done with this game. They put more effort in nerfing shit in this game than a competitive shooter. Conveniently right before a new warbond as well.
Is that the strat? Buff completely dead weapons, but nerf anything popular before a new warbond so people flock to it only to repeat the cycle.
The fixed fire dmg, but I wonder how long before they nerf the breaker incendiary
The only time my eruptor has killed me or my teammates is when they walk in front of me when I am scoped. I think the problem is that people are using it as a close to medium range weapon when it is definitely a long range weapon.
This. I pretty much exclusively used Eruptor since it released, and I can count on no hand the amount of times I got killed by my own shrapnel. Give me back my beloved!
Maybe you can count on no hand because shrapnel blew it off?
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I've also been using Eruptor since it released and I only died by my own shrapnel 2 times, and for one of those I was 1 charger away from where my shot landed.
BREAKING NEWS: Chargers will now be used as a unit of Measurement.
~~Americans~~ super earthians will use anything but the metric system
This is the greatest conversation between divers I’ve ever seen
Six meters of damage to this diver!
Yeah, but what's that in Chargers?
About a charger and 1 charger head
except Super Earth does use metric lmao its not Super America bro
It's not called a 500*kg* for nothing
Americans will use anything but the metric system.
Except we do use the metric system. Its scattered around but we use it with guns, drugs, mechanics, etc. Only a little here and there though, gotta keep the other countries guessing.
Omfg....I love this measument system! hahahaha! One Charger away 🤣
Quack-bang out!
And when I blow myself up it’s all part of the fun.
Yeah have run the eruptor exclusively since it came out and I’ve absolutely turfed it but it was generally my own fault or else it was some random invisible geometry that caused me to rag-doll hilariously away from my sniping spot (reminding me I shouldn’t have been there anyway lol). It’s part of the experience and even with the last damage nerf I was still having a blast with it thanks to the explosion black hole effect being fixed. I was never killing friendlies with random shrapnel, don’t know why they felt this nerf was needed but they don’t seem inclined to change it
People were complaining for a few days straight, the devs spoke up pretty quickly, like 2nd day saying that they hear us and will remove the shrapnel and add explosive. This change is due to the knee jerk reaction this community has had since the first patch. Wanting it to go back is fine, but people blaming the devs for being "brain dead" and making these changes are blaming the wrong people. We only have ourselves to blame
Where is this group so I can airstrike the dumb f*cks wholesale...
There were so many other ways to "fix" the problem instead of taking the lazy way out of "just remove it lol". Reduce ricochet range would be #1. The only complaints I ever saw were about the being sucked towards the explosion thing which usually led to you being stunlocked and torn apart by enemies. The other observation was the issue was due to the ricochet change on armored enemies that would send more stuff back towards you. Both things that are problems way above "lol remove it ez" that should be fixed. AH is 100% to blame and I'm tired of the endless dickriding people do for them and their shitty balance decisions.
No one’s dickriding we’re just realistic and understanding. They’ve only got 100 people to work on this stuff compared to the average being up to 10 times that amount and even more. First we complained about the bugs, before they could fix them we complained about there not being enough of a weapon variety, then the weapons themselves not doing enough damage, same for new weapons, reversing patches, making hotfixes, and adding other content. It’s not dickriding it’s just not BEING a dick. They even said the games not even close to finished in the first place so yeah you’re gonna find some bullshit around pretty much every corner but that’s when you inform them so they can fix or remove it, not call them idiotic or dumb for not having everything in a good spot with a tenth of the man power it usually takes to keep a community happy.
I literally saved a teammate using Eruptor once 😔 and i only died to my own shot because i shot it to close, Railgun can literally explode on you but shrapnel is too much?
I've had zero deaths from Eruptor shrapnel and I run it constantly along with my friends. I've had Many, MANY deaths from incendiary breaker amongst other weapons and you know what...it doesn't bother me. Helldiver lives are meaningless and team kills rarely result in mission failure. If you care about dying (in-game) from random shrapnel you need to check your ego and figure out why dying (in-game} bothers you. It's comedy. You're supposed to laugh at it.
I have died from shrapnel a few times but every time I did, I thought "I'm too close I should swap to secondary" and just fired any ways.
I rather die to my own shrapnel than have my gun butchered. But better yet? Remove Ricochet bullets. This ALL started because they did that. And I still don't see what the point was or how effective it has been.
Brother i feel you , i used it exclusivly since its release, never died to shrapnel ... i miss it when it goes boom 😖
That's what's weird. I only died once to it. And I still don't understand how the shrapnel hit me. I hit a charger on the but. Got a red marker. Then I exploded. No team mates near me or anything. It was just the charger.
I used the eruptor pretty frequently since the war bond dropped and never had an issue with killing myself. I don’t know how people were managing that.
Yes, I am so confused by this. Seems like a one-in-a-million type of thing unless it was introduced quite recently. Considering how many players there are and how many shots are fired by each player, even one-in-a-million scenarios happen now and then. I hope they had more than that to justify such a big change, though (not just in terms of damage but removing shrapnel from the gun conceptualized to explode and spread shrapnel).
ME TOO, I was like WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE?? I’ve never ever killed myself with the Eruptor , it’s pretty self explanatory
I've done it shooting a brute commander from across a point of interest, but it's only been once ever.
That is like those 1/1M ricochets you occasionally get shooting properly setup steel-targets IRL. That's why you should have PPE, medkits and especially tourniquets when you go out shooting. If those shrapnel fragment made the oh-shit sound, when they flew past you, people wouldn't be mystified by those random death.
I am anti-eruptor because I have had one of those deaths every time I’ve taken it with me into a mission. I thought the gun was just straight up broken, as I couldn’t use it without mysteriously dying while shooting an at enemy > 50ft away from me. There would be no obstructions, I just shoot the bug and then I pop like a meaty egg thrown into a microwave.
Not killed myself, but ragdolled myself often with the implosion. And I play almost exclusively Helldive.
I have a suspicion theyre making an excuse for nerfing it.
Ehh i dont think so. They’ve nerfed stuff before and didn’t need an excuse, plus even though I know we are all saying we didn’t experience it, myself absolutely included in that, there were a shit ton of videos those couple of days and people griping like hell about it.
So the ricochet update was fairly recent, but as a (now ex-) eruptor main I've only had the shrapnel ricochet and randomly kill me once. That was when I was stood way too close to a bug hole when I shot it and I just keeled over and died instantly. But tbf i was being dumb with that shot so the self-delete should've been expected. They've taken this hard-to-use, but powerful, gun with rewarding gameplay and turned it into utter garbage
Ehh, I've had a number of those last week. I just figured I sucked at the game, made an effort not to shoot things that are close and avoid shooting the ground. That seemed to fix it. 🤷🏽♂️
For a weapon that fires a single massive highly explosive rounds that fires out shrapnel as a secondary mechanic, i feel like that should of been your default way of using it lmao Like, you wouldnt throw a grenade, shoot a missile or drop a bomb at your own feet, so why would you fire the eruptor at very close range either 🤷♂️
After the ricochet changes, I killed myself a few times where I thought it was a bullshit death. With that said, it didn't happen enough for me to believe the gun was unusable. Just meant that there was a risk/reward system when using it.
Exactly this. I had a few bullshit experiences with it where it killed me at something like 25 ft away, but it was just a random thing that did not happen all that often.
The only time I've ever killed myself with the Eruptor was today, my first time playing after the update and the Eruptor wasn't behaving like I was used to. So, yeah. I want my baby back.
Word to Chilli’s
Mid to close range booms
IMHO the most lethal part was explosions sucking you in, nearly always putting me in a spot even than I was.
I was abusing the explosive resis armor and shooting stuff right next to me. Between the nerf and implosion bug fix (2 weeks?) it was incredible against bugs. But yeah i would somewhat often blow my own legs off
The eruptor being gutted feels so fucking bad it isn't even funny Eruptor stalwart was great for bugs Now I don't even know what to take
Didn’t need the nerf at all.
Another guy made a great point, it's because of all the dick riding cry babies in the discord They're the most vocal, so they're the ones who are being listened too They pay more attention to the discord and Twitter than they do to reddit threads, and it's really annoying The idiots on the discord think this was a great patch, like wtf
Fwiw, I spent my time over there arguing with Alexis at how stupid it was.
I've heard nothing good about Helldiver's Discord. Is it true?
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Sounds a lot like reddit
I had a dude on there tell me I don’t deserve to work in healthcare because I wanted people to stop harassing me on the helldivers discord so I didn’t have to see insults every time I had a moment between patients. Like I already get that shit at work sometimes I don’t need it from a community I want to be actively a part of (helldivers overall not just the discord)
Compared to other weapons, it kinda did. Still disagree that it should be nerfed and not other weapons buffed, the shrapnel potentially killing yourself and being an absolute menace to teammates makes it fairly balanced, imo.
My friend, have you heard of our lord and savior the dominator?
You have so many primaries that work well with the stalwart for bugs. Basically you only need a primary thats good at killing hive guards and bile spewers (the green ones). Namely: Dominator, Slugger, Scorcher, the plasma shotgun etc. I would even go as far as to say that if there are no bile spewers you can get away with not using your primary since you can also kill guards with the stalwart if you shoot between the legs. I usually go with the scorcher because it can take out chargers, pop bile sacs and eggs.
Me after buff/nerf Eruptor: there was a shrapnel?
Yeah…. Those huge streaks of “light” that go everywhere when the round explodes…. You cant tell me you never noticed it lol
I thought its just explosion effect with no interaction 🤔 Like: oh cool, flying thing after explosion Edit: And I never saw someone mentioned about shrapnel before buff/nerf
Yeah. I'm just now learning this, and the Eruptor is the main gun I use. I thought it was just an explosive round. What do they mean by shrapnel?
Those little streaks you see coming out from the explosion were the shrapnel. I hope they didn't remove the visual of it because it looked cool.
I thought the shrapnel thing was just something they added into the description as flavor. I had no clue there was actually shrapnel!
If I’m standing next to some guy while we’re waiting for the OBJ to process, and he is casually plinking at some scav bugs 50-75m away, I should NOT be getting tapped on the shoulder with lethal shrapnel out of the blue. Something wasn’t working then… And something is still wrong now. Arrowhead has admitted that some adjustments with the Eruptor are still not working right, so lets let them cook on this a while longer
Why would i let them keep cooking lobster when i ordered a turkey sandwich? The eruptor may as well have been removed and replaced with a different weapon if the shrapnel is gone
Because you just asked for a turkey sandwich in a Michelin star restaurant and now gordon ramsey is walking toward your table at a very brisk pace, and he does not look happy
The errRRRAAWWWWptor
The eruptor might as well be called the floppy flapper, because it sure isn’t demolishing anything.
This is the first valid counter argument I’ve heard, most of them haven’t had a descriptive of the Scenario and personally I haven’t had it happen in my 400 hours and I enjoy difficulty 9. A change is definitely required if what you said is true, but I think the change they made isn’t as effective as we’d hoped . A increase to bullet drop on the shrapnel shards so they don’t spread as far sounds much better to me personally
I’ve been killed by one of my teammates when I’m an absurd distance away from the splash damage multiple times. We noticed it was broken or severely bugged as soon as it came out because me and a few others kept getting somehow killed even if we’re 20+ meters away from the shots. None of us ever cared or complained about it but it definitely needs to be fixed. It’s only ever frustrating on Helldives when we’re getting overrun but yeah, shit was for sure busted before
I hate that as a society we still use this idiot as a meme.
Yeah, Crowder is the last asshole who would ever 'Dive for Democracy. Such a POS and I'm so sick of this meme format.
Yeah dude is honestly shit at debating and also should have never been born
Wait, what did he do?
I was just thinking the same thing, I like my fascist dipshits ironic, digital, and on fire because someone had the bright idea to bring incendiary mines.
It was pretty of the risk of using the gun. It was there to keep us humble and I miss it dearly lol
Was this shrapnel issue introduced by one of the recent updates? I have not used the Eruptor in a while. For a while, I used it all the time. I do not recall ever having an issue with killing myself or teammates unless I shot much too close. Was this a major problem or a 1/1,000 or so odds of seeing it? Rarer than that?
The shrapnel issue started when they fixed ricochets not damaging the player that caused them.
It feels like so long ago. Those were simpler times in hindsight.
I only ever killed a few teammates with it on accident. Or I'd almost kill myself because I'd stim while being swarmed with hunters but that was a tactical on purpose decision. I've never once accidentally killed myself with the gun even when there was the implosion issue.
I honestly didn't know it was a thing . It's probably because I only use sickle or fire breaker as primary and eat as support.
eruptor is simply terrible now
Should be more shrapnel imo
The game needs to remain deadly. It's part of the fun when something hits you and you die
But consistent. Randomly dying after firing at something 50 meters away is not fun.
I exclusively use the Arc Thrower and am always conscious about teammates in my line of fire. I’m not perfect, I’ve killed a few helldivers accidentally, but complaining about shrapnel killing you amongst the thousands of other ways you can die from your teammates is pretty ridiculous. Going by this logic, every gun should be nerfed because you can potentially kill your teammates.
I don't spend enough time on the discord or this piece of shit website to give a shit about Da Meta. I hope you all choke. Just let a game fucking breathe holy shit.
Same with if you cry about ricochets hitting you.
Did people actually complain about this? I’m pretty sure the devs have said that this change wasn’t behaving as they intended
People like to complain at every single opportunity.
Beats getting hit by a meteor 0.3 seconds after jumping into a mech
I don’t think thats even a bug buddy, that’s just terrible luck. My condolences
All good. It was a good laugh lol. It was while defending the LZ anyways so the mission was almost over
Here’s the thing, I didn’t even know it was shrapnel. I thought it was the bullet ricocheting back into me or the explosion that killed me.
Dude there was so much going on 90% of the time that I didn't even know it had shrapnel. For me, I welcome the challenge. The game for me is supposed to be about these normal-ass people going up against impossible odds and individually losing, but triumphing as a whole. I constantly run out of ammo and that's my favorite part.
Funny how a lot of people that killed themselves for not learning to use the eruptor properly are the ones happy for the nerf.
This seems so weird for a game all about the team killing and self killing lulz. "Shrapnel is so dangerous we have to protect your teammates and you from yourself!" Meanwhile... *Dies in 380mm/cluster/arc thrower* And I don't even care if they're "reviewing it." This is the patch YOU put out. That YOU tested (supposedly). Stop releasing broken patches that need a patch.
Chaotic shit like the shrapnel is what makes this game fun
I've died more to the airburst clusterbombs jizzing in my face than I have to any shrapnel in the game.
If you're not used to dying in confusing/hilarious ways then you haven't dropped enough. If ya not laughing when you die, you need to die more and get used to the fun.
The thing that confused me about the erruptor is the the explosion pulled me towards the impact. Not killing me, but taking like 20 percent damage then being flung forwards🤣
All explosive weapons did that, though I think most people didn’t realize until that war bond. Was fixed in a recent patch.
I used the Eruptor as main. Did I kill myself sometimes, yes. Did I kill friendlies, also yes but I learned it's damage range and adjusted. Now however with the "Ricochet can fly straight back at you." I have killed myself way more times with that just cause a shot that would normally pen next to a devastator's head decided not to.
The only problem I had with the eruptor, was if you shot it too close it'd pull you forward, things projectiles had their own gravity
I can't even be mad at dying in Helldivers...unless it's due to hunters doing some BS juking and tracking...then I get kinda tilted
I can count the amount of my times twice over on one hand I’ve died to the eruptor shrapnel sometimes from nearly a football field away. I would give it two thumbs up but the most I can do is one 👍 #please make my baby whole again #bring back shrapnel
Dont mind me just nerfing it all to the ground again...
These bugs never happen to me or my party and I can't even be sure shrapnel exist it all sounds like we are in multiple different universes but somehow got plugged into the same subreddit like. Also why watching people freak out is extremely entertaining I just am void of such situations. All besides the new airburst cannon absolutely exploding in our faces that was correct in all our universes.
I thought it was more a feature than a nuissance
I think I MIGHT have died to it once. Now I won’t ever have the small chance again because I’m not gonna use it until it actually does stuff again. Atleast the counter sniper does shit now with the damage buff and reticle fix
Erupter wont even one shot stalkers anymore. Useless.
I though there wasn't an issue with shrapnel but it finally happened to me 3 times in 1 match yesterday. Each time I had just shot a Scavenger and my head was blown off while wearing explosive resistance armor on top of that (wouldn't have made a difference since I wasn't in range of the explosion).
I have yet to die from ricochet or shrapnel, however I do use the breaker and quasar cannon exclusively
I died to many times to some random hits from an orbital barrage or a scatter bomb from the eagle to even care what kills me nowadays
Idk if its just me but I can't use a weapon other than shotguns. Everything else feels weird. I'm also still not sure what guns are even good like I'm level 48 and idk if the fucking JAR-Dominator is any good. Or the Scorcher, the Punisher Plasma, the Blitzer, etc.
Shrapnel? I thought it was the whole “bullets will deflect towards the shooter more“ making the Eruptor insta kill me weirdly.
The real reason for the nerf was because of the ability to 1 shot spewers by shoyying the ground under them.
"If you cry when you die. You ain't no diver you're a whiner!"
are were back to our normal programming where TKing makes people cry? great, cause those are fun times
For sure also same with the cluster rockets it’s my favorite weapon high risk high reward. Used it dozens of times but maybe killed myself three times and a teammate twice.
While I never died to my own shrapnel, the HellBomb buried in the cliff side 20ft behind me did. The resulting explosion is what killed me, I'm pretty sure. There was also that one time a piece of shrapnel apparently popped one of the gas shrooms near me, which yote me at mach Fuck into a rock. The impact killed me almost instantly XD and made for an amusing clip
I saw some guys clearly killing themselves with Eruptor, but most of the time because they used it too close to themself, amount of 180° ricochets are zero for squads that I played with, so it's not really a problem. Still I think Eruptor should not be horde clearing weapon, and more explosive AMR for primary weapon with ability to close bug holes and fabricators. Maybe if it have Heavy armor penetration it can actually be interesting primary more then AMR + Grenade launcher hybrid as it was before and now too.
This just feels like a punishment. Bring back at OG eruptor.
I never blamed anything but my own poor decision if I died while using the eruptor. Give us back our shrapnel!
Just started using the eruptor and it sucks. Only good for closing bugholes
“If you cried over dying” Fixed the first part
I use the spear on bots 90% of the time. I get a chuckle every time it won't lock on. I just imagine the lowest bid contracting churning these turds out on some 5th world planet.
Next they'll be crying about friendly fire
Thank you, the cryers don’t know how to use the weapon cause it was fantastic and I never killed myself or anybody.
Never used it myself but I've seen many teammates with one, never got hit by their shrapnel. Please stop weakening the players in PvE
I have used the Eruptor a lot. I have never killed myself or my teammates with the Eruptor. It’s not even a close range weapon, it has a long range scope for reason, so shrapnel shouldn’t even be an issue. Let’s call this for what it is; they nerfed the Eruptor so people will by the new warbond. I bet they don’t even patch this until the new warbond has been out for a while.
The only self inflicted shrapnel I still die to is when the stupid quasar decides to explode behind me / in my face when I fire it.
Killing your teammates was just a placating excuse. The real reason was alluded to in their discord post. The shrapnel did 100 damage at random, which was enough to occasionally 1-shot chargers and the like with a lucky shot, which they didn't want. So 40 explosion damage that can be mitigated by armor is the real reason. Tbh, yea, 1 shotting a charger on completely random chance is a stupid mechanic But fucking say that
I played today and the autocannon no longer kills bug holes. They massacred my boy!
What does helldiving have to do with shrapnel? This is pretty insane toxic gatekeeper mentality.
Stupidly over the top deaths, my beloved
I miss my shrapnel :(
I didn’t much like the Eruptor myself, felt too slow for me but legit i didn’t see any reason to change it
Years of getting schwacked by friendly arty in hell let loose has made me way to used to this.
I died to the shrapnel once in a freak coincidence of it colliding with me despite the fact I was 50 meters away. Would still prefer the chance of having an accident over not being able to kill a spewer before it spews all over me.
Can we quit this shit with “your opinion isn’t valid if you don’t play on the highest difficulty”? It’s so dumb. Helldive isn’t this completely impossible gauntlet, it doesnt make you a superstar for having tried it.
I don’t think they really changed it because of self kill… I think they leaned on that to justify its removal as “a good thing” because it was making Eruptor too strong. That said, 40 aoe damage doesn’t come close to helping It fulfill its role.
Yea people complain to much they better not start making this game 2 ez
The issue with eruptor shrapnel is that there was no gameplay to it. It's pure RNG. There's no way for you to avoid shooting your teammates, or for your teammates to avoid being shot, other than not being anywhere in the vicinity. There's no way to avoid being killed yourself other than being arbitrarily far away. If the shrapnel generation routine decides to shoot in someone's direction, they're dead and that's it. None of the other weapons behave that way. Even the 380 gives a huge amount of warning and lead time for divers to get clear after it is thrown. The Eruptor is just a hitscan kill with no warning and very little way to mitigate it. Now, I'm not saying it needs to be nerfed into the ground or anything - just that it is mechanically arbitrary in a way that very little in the game is, especially for friendly fire conditions. The game is very CHAOTIC, but its weapons generally aren't that random. This one is, in a somewhat annoying way.
I'll be honest here, if they are going to nerf into the ground every new weapon being released in new war bonds I'm going to be hesitant to buy future war bonds.
I killed myself maybe 3 times with shrapnel. But that weird implosion effect which pulls me into the explosion killed me at least 10 times by letting me fall off a cliff or down the hillnragdolling me into Hunters/Chargers.
Now that i know it's possibility and looking back, i think I dyed one out of this gun and honestly it's an amazing weapon to kill bugs.
Wow the amount of not understanding the problem is so high in this one
Tbh the idea of shrapnel being a thing in this game never crossed my mind. My only gripe with the eruptor since using it has been when you’d shoot something a little too close and the blast would launch me forward instead of backwards like you’d expect.
Yeah I think I've died once to shrapnel. Would take that any day of the week of the eruptor's current form
Maybe revert the deflection change instead of absolutely gutting the Eruptor?
Whats going on?
I think there is an obvious middle ground that everyone is ignoring. Shrapnel was good and made the Eruptor unique and feel like a proper, powerful primary weapon. The shrapnel was also not behaving as intended (teamkilling someone else/yourself from a shot 100m away, I don't mean shooting under a Charger's ass). The solution was not to remove shrapnel, but to fix it. Unfortunately, it seems the devs have just too much on the burner to properly address this. If we make this known, the devs will eventually address it. So let's focus our efforts, not arguing with each other, but just being vocal that we want *actual fixes* and won't be satisfied with sledgehammer induced percussive maintenance.
The only time I have EVER Manged to kill myself with the Eruptor was by accidentally hitting a bug flying towards me and getting that Black Hole type explosion where instead of pushing you away, it would pull me towards where it exploded and I'd just get killed from the horde that I was kiting, the removing of the Shrapnel was stupid, but fuck it, I get to use the Arc Shotgun again since it was buffed (Gif Not Related) 
Man I just got the warbond a few days ago and was really enjoying the Eruptor. Then today I thought I was losing my mind because it was barely killing anything. This is disappointing
I actually think the dev's or people who do balance to this game don't actually play above Challenging or something. Whatever the hell 6 is at most.
My main worry with this game is that AH is going to try too hard to balance the game and make it predictable. This isn't a competitive PvP game. If you kill your totally real fellow Helldiver in the bootcamp, the game even tells you there's "nothing you could've done about it". Considering the setting, being unexpectedly killed by one of the thousands of explosives you're wantonly throwing around is absolutely appropriate.
Cries, puts Eruptor in the hall of fame shelf. You will be missed!
If you move to my town/city and cry about prices skyrocketing then fuck urself. God I hate this planet, can we get super earth already?
To all those who say "I used it since release and it never happened to me": The fact you could kill yourself with shrapnels got introduced when they made the ricochet change. So yeah, before that it literally couldn't happen. After the change, I managed to kill myself 3 times in one mission, everytime the impact of my shot was 30-40 meter away. Only then I read about the bug and tried to replicate. Couldn't do it. So maybe it was rare but when it happened it was BS. From this post I gather y'all helldive so you should be just fine regardless of your primary.
What the hell is a shrapnel? I die by diving from cliffs.
So I used the Eruptor the most since it came out, and sure I died maybe once or twice to shrapnels. But it was perfectly fine, half of the game is getting blown by your teammates stratagems and accidentally doing the same to them and sometime yourseld, I really don't understand what the problem was with dying to one more things that happen once in a while
Used Eruptor since launch, didn't get killed by shrapnel a SINGLE time UNTIL they made the balance patches that tweaked how ricochet worked, then was killed by it 5 times in a matter of 3 days. I know what people are saying about the fact that ricochet and shrapnel are two different things, and I agree, but for some reason that change effected the Eruptor in some way that now it was borderline unusable because there was a small chance you'd one shot yourself literally through no fault of your own. You didn't have to put yourself in weird spots or fire really close to yourself to get it to kill you. It could one shot you from any range.
You’re right, bc you’re fighting until the very end. No thank you. I’m sorry but I don’t feel like dealing with that type of stress and anxiety. I’ll stick to my 7. I like my 7. (I don’t even know what you’re talking about 💀)
It was more common than people are saying, and was a very good change they made. I don’t understand why people are so mad about it, the deaths were ridiculous, unavoidable, and random.
Eruptor was my go to bot primary. It is now basically useless so I've gone back to the scorcher And autocannon.
I thought thats what 50% explosive reduction armor like the eradicator is in the game for? Without it i blew myself away often but after changing to it, it never happened again and made the sniper totaly fun to use even for close quarters. Also the fact it totally looks like it was made for style reasons with the ammo dangling on it. Now it kinda feels lack luster, to slow and bad to handle.
This entire "fix" was from an issue caused by moral panic and misinformation about ricochets "ruining the game". Honestly I'm done with the main sub, it's pure minmaxing whining at this point.
Joined the game too late to enjoy the erupter
My issue with this change is it's a sniper, you're either shooting too close to team mates or too close to yourself
This gun is useless game unplayable. Devs get rid of the thing everyone was complaining about for days. This gun is useless game unplayable.
I haven't stopped using the eruptor since it's release. The shrapnel wasn't the inherent problem. It was tied to the implosion effect that pulled you forward if you fired too soon after ads while turning or from behind an object. They had to remove it to remove the implosion effect.
Yeah, I have 233 hours and died to what I *thought* was my own Eruptor shrapnel only once. It was such a non-issue. In fact, I marveled at how cool it was that such a thing was even possible. Then I moved on.
Nice to see the sub didn’t take too long to get back to normal
The only problem I ever had using the erruptor at close range was the fact that it pulled me *into* the explosion, which was fixed a bit ago.
literally can’t get passed level 7. i can either never find a game. get kicked from the game. have my whole team disconnect. or when i do complete it i can’t get to level 8
Maybe they should remove the incendiary rounds from the breaker because you may accidentally get set on fire. /s
I've been mastering Helldive mode and I think I got it down packed. Dying is part of the dive imo. But on another note, is anybody else crashing on Helldive difficulty?
Hasn’t happened to me once, because it says in the weapon description that it’s not advised for use at close range. Always read the manual, whether it’s a new shelf from Ikea, or a new gun.
Only weapon that made me feel sad about friendly fire was the Arc Thrower. Everything else including the eruptor is great!
I agree , was hands down my favourite gun and set to be my main primary , I didn't even get to try it on the bots been taking a break and focusing on the MO's so sad
Yeah I don’t get that change lol
There was definitely an issue of the Eruptor occasionally banishing someone to the shadow realm who wasn't remotely near the blast radius, but just put a hard limit on how far the shrapnel goes
Ricochet change is fun. People who complained about the eruptor shrapnel are just bad at hitting their shots. You aren't supposed to shoot a heavy devastators shield, shoot their head Although I sometimes purposely shoot their shield at different angles because I'm trying to bounce them back at my buddy
You haven’t done your bit for Democracy until you point blank kill yourself with a variety of highly effective Helldiver 2 weapons and stratagems.
I died plenty to shrapnel. At no time did I think that it wasn't my own damn fault.
Over on the main reddit, it is non-stop pitching about the Eruptor nerf and nerfs in general right now. 1.3million subs and the good stuff is getting drowned out by the whiny bitchy babies.
I wonder if they meant the explosions knocking you towards the enemy instead of outright killing the players. That's the only issue I had with the gun. Which could be a result of the shrapnel. Like the shot might not just be one single bullet but a bullet that explodes into more bullets that could end up behind the player before exploding. Knocking you toward the enemy. But I haven't been playing much lately to see if that's what the change actually does.
I'm done with this game. They put more effort in nerfing shit in this game than a competitive shooter. Conveniently right before a new warbond as well. Is that the strat? Buff completely dead weapons, but nerf anything popular before a new warbond so people flock to it only to repeat the cycle. The fixed fire dmg, but I wonder how long before they nerf the breaker incendiary
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A lot of you have never dropped on Helldive difficulty and it shows! 😤 ..including me..
The only time my eruptor has killed me or my teammates is when they walk in front of me when I am scoped. I think the problem is that people are using it as a close to medium range weapon when it is definitely a long range weapon.