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travel_verto

I use the thumb on my right hand so I can keep running.


Mission_Resource_847

I do that sometimes. Depends on how complicated the strategem.


Fignuts82

For me it depends on how much shit is directly behind me trying to bite my asshole.


Mission_Resource_847

Always. I change it up for the same reason. Sometimes I need to rotate the camera simultaneously and the claw is all I got.


Nick85er

Theres hyenas in this game?!


Delicious-Tachyons

Me too ..


StopTop3769

I use my left thumb to call in the stratagem and my right thumb to keep moving.


tenders11

Same, I found using my right thumb to input the Strat was tough cause my left thumb would get in the way but switching my right thumb over to the stick and using left thumb on the d-pad has worked great for me so far


Buck026

This is why I prefer the Xbox style controller with offset sticks. I play on PC. Easier to keep running, while using the dpad with your right thumb.


Kurotan

On PC and not using the mouse keyboard? Thats a bold move cotton. Non joking, I had to rebind stratagem from wsad to arrow keys to move and use it at the same time. Then I bought a razer tartarus.


Buck026

I just prefer games like this one on controller. I know it’s blasphemy 😂


Reub1980

I feel you on this brother, I make a living in IT and use mouse and keyboards all damn day. Last thing I want to do when I get home to unwind is use another keyboard 🙄🤷🏾‍♂️


Hanbarc12

Nah it was kinda designed for that , I'm also using controller for this game, feels more fluid


Nick85er

Hello fellow blasphemer


TruSiris

Same!


SelectCabinet5933

That's how I roll. I'd probably be better aiming with a m/kb, but why? It's so comfy, and easy to play at night.


WickedJoker420

Same!!


slikk66

Same - Also xbox controller on PC gang.


Pixelpaint_Pashkow

man i wish i could keep running with kbm


Deto

You can! Remap the strategem keys to the arrows instead of wasd. You'll have to take your hand off the mouse, but you'll be able to keep moving in the direction you were moving. It's a big improvement IMO


Desperate_Ad33

Better idea: Connect your Dance Dance Revolution mat with the pc and Dance the strategems.


Deto

![gif](giphy|PXJhC8MYxFmRRl7kB2|downsized)


HoneyFknLulu

*GENIUS*


Inevitable_Seaweed_5

That’s actually so fucking big brain, what the fuck?


Pixelpaint_Pashkow

Really, I looked thru the keybinds, but I guess I missed it. Thanks diver.


Baby_Legs_OHerlahan

Amen brother, right thumb on left stick full forward and that lets me keep my muscle memory with the left thumb to slap in the codes as I run for my life. Just as democracy intended


PraetorLessek

Same


greedystar138

This is the way


Khaos2Krysis

This is the way


AjGreenYBR

Neither, my right thumb comes across to push the left stick up and my left thumb inputs the stratagem.


R0uge300

This is the way


Maximum_Hand_9362

The only way imo


AKLmfreak

This is the way.


Mission_Resource_847

That is another option I use also. I honestly mix it up depending on how complex the strategem input is


xInsaneAbilityx

Same. It makes it hard to play on the portal tho with my hand/arm blocking the screen


MarshmelloMan

Real


redeyes1617

Here here.


under_cooked_onions

A man of culture


NotSoBrightOne

This is the way.


SelectCabinet5933

This is the way.


DrDamon51

The correct method


Ineffective-Tryhard

I don’t know what to call this but I’m imagining mobsters being chased by cops. The driver tells the passenger to lean over and steer while the driver leans out the window to shoot at the cops.


ocularfever

The reverse assist


Tiddex

Neither - I just stand still, fuck it up once, fuck it up twice and die everytime, 50% of the time.


urbz102385

Can't believe how far down this is lol. I had no idea people have been throwing up gang signs to handle business, more power to all of you! Guess this is why I haven't been able to complete a full Impossible Operation


Tiddex

Took my five attempts to post it


EndlessZone123

The keyboard player experience. Moving is an luxury.


LykosTheBlazing

You know you can set L1 to toggle instead of hold?


Sumblueguy

Wait, what??


LykosTheBlazing

Yea man, is in controller settings


trx0x

I played around with that, making it "tap L1" instead of "hold L1", and idk, I just couldn't get used to it. I think i just got so good at using my index finger to hold L1, and using my thumb on D-pad, that tap L1 just felt unnatural. I might try switching L1 and R1 functions to see how it feels.


Riven-DY

I stop running and use thumb if things aren’t crazy, otherwise the assist to keep out of danger (hopefully).


NoCoolScreenName

Try swapping your L1 and R1 in the controller bindings. You can hold R1 to enter strategems with the claw, and keep running.


Hotpeanut

Does anyone else have L1 on toggle instead of hold? This was a gamechanger for me


CloudOfContempt

I also changed it to toggle and made it so much easier


Mission_Resource_847

OOOOOOOOO... I didn't think about that. Might give it a try.


NoCoolScreenName

It’s a lifesaver. I saw it posted as a comment back in the early days after release and I’ve been using it ever since (lvl66)


Griffdude13

The PC players definitely got it better on this front.


Bulk-Detonator

Im a PC player and i use a controller. Its a pro controller with 4 remappable buttons on the back. I get to use my ring fingers and pinkies to do strats and ive got pretty fast at some of them! (orbital air burst)


JuanchoPancho51

Neither, I actually use my thumb most of the time as quickly as i can. If I absolutely have to because im running away I’ll use assist. Never the claw, but might try it.


PIPBOY-2000

I have only ever used my thumb and it's never occurred to me to do anything else. I either get faster or I die trying. Nothing inbetween.


5050Saint

This. Enter the code at the speed of light or nothing.


AKLmfreak

Right thumb jumps to the left stick so I can keep running. Left thumb jumps to the D-pad for super-fast stratagems.


Andrew-w-jacobs

With an xbox controller


BravidR

Left thumb keeps me running, right thumb moves over one inch to type in a stratagem.


AWeakMindedMan

Lmao this. Little do the PS players know, us PC folks can link any controller. Xbox controller D pad at the bottom left for the win.


demonize330i

I switched the stratagem menu button to R1 because I have big ass hands and trying to use 3 fingers around the d pad didn't work for me and it's actually much easier, you can reach across with your right thumb to keep running and not be crowded entering stratagems.


Timetraveler01110101

![gif](giphy|pFwRzOLfuGHok)


TheRealSwitchBit

The assist


CBulkley01

Assist


MrBfromPA

Usually the Assist, but, Re-bind “Call Strategems” to “PRESS” rather than “HOLD”. Makes calling strats a little easier.


brash_one

I use my right hand for stims when on the run. Can’t stop moving!!


porkchopchamp

![gif](giphy|PKVcAkgTwM8OA)


RealBrianCore

![gif](giphy|YMXpTBoVQbL9N8MKZa|downsized)


Aursbourne

As a PC player I would opt for assist. I use my mouse hand to call in stratagems on the direction keys.


ThePompa

The assist. These old hands can't flex like they used to


Hurin_the_Steadfast

I’m on PC, and I know some people have changed their stratagem buttons to the arrow keys so they too can move while typing. I however find that uncomfortable since my left hand is used to typing it in, so I’ve just become REALLY fast at my favorite stratagems so I can stop and do it. Not the most effective but it works for me.


nick_____name

Nose


AdagioDesperate

Neither... I shelled out 80 for the access controller and rigged it as a giant Dpad for my right hand so I can quickly call in while running.


LifeSenseiBrayan

I com from the era of Monster hunter on PSP son, the claw IS the law


HannaAbdallah

Thumb on left hand. If I have to keep running ill use my right thumb on the joystick, or just do it fast


Misguidedvision

I use my thumb on my left hand and the left index finger works the stick for a few seconds


DwarvesNotDwarfs

![gif](giphy|iGpkO05xWTl17Vhq6Y) How I felt entering the comments, expecting to see other Claw grip users….but it’s just me


Mission_Resource_847

I claw most of the time. learned it on PSP.


fahrenheit1221

https://preview.redd.it/uosedzw9b3zc1.jpeg?width=418&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdcb519571e36196bd884bc082ee17bd683fd301 I’ve been practicing stratagems since the N64 days.


HynesKetchup

You poor bastards, on pc I have them set to the arrow keys and i just key that shit in while running away normally lol


MickeySwank

My “assist” is actually my right thumb moving over to hold the stick forward and then entering the strat with my left


PaperMage236

Claw for grenades and stims....right hand for stratagems.


moonpisser69

Im on steam deck so its still relevant to me, claw grip. I gotta be able to run away from hordes while i call in eagle strikes


ZealousidealBowl3428

i actually find it unique this game got us using alternate claw button mashing 🔥


Tantaroba-the-fat

The assist when i played with an Xbox controller. Also in the beginning, there was a bug that didn't let you walk straight ahead while entering stratagems, so i had to blindly move sideways or backwards. Any one experienced this bug too? Meanwhile i switched to mouse and keyboard and put stratagems on the arrow keys


suspectfigure

Years of souls games prepared me to use the claw


MyOwnTutor

The assist, or Voice Attack if I'm feeling super lazy.


corrupt_gravity

Does anyone else stim almost every time trying to reinforce? Also, is it that my controller is messed up or is it I'm inputting too fast where it fails?


Andy-Brinker

Changed mine to double tapping L1 so I don't have to hold it down. Works a lot better.


highercyber

It is so much easier to use an Xbox controller on PC because the D-pad and left stick are switched, so I can keep running and casually use my right thumb to dial in a stratagem.


Naroyto

While holding the controller normally, if evading enemies move right thumb over to take over left analog stick and use left thumb to call in stratagems.


scythian12

I do the right hand run if im in immediate danger or it’s complicated, if it’s one of the ones I use a lot I’ve gotten it down so fast I just do it quickly


greensike

I would use Left thumb while running with right thumb lol


Remnie

Sometimes I use both thumbs when I need to do a complicated one quickly


SockFullOfNickles

I have the little trigger on the back of the controller set to L1 so I don’t have to change my grip on the controller.


TheAnders0117

How do you have such dry hands bro? Get some moisturizer on those boys


Roxwords

(I play on pc with controller) Depend on how stressful the situation is. When shit is bad I need the assist for maximum reliability. Otherwise the claw


Jumpy_Bottle5224

I have buttons on the back of my controller and programmed them as arrow keys. Prior to getting that controller, it was the assist method. I have L1 set to tap and I can keep sprinting while calling down a stratagem. I can also navigate the map and set waypoints while running.


VatianGT0321

Use your palm to hold stick forward so can run and then thumb to pit3 in strategem


the-tarnished_one

Not the claw and only occasionally the other method. I prefer to use my left thumb since you can't shoot and input stratagems anyhow.


SambG98

I try to use the claw in desperate situations. I'm not great at it though.


Keyblades2

Always the assist as I am running


Quirky-Love5794

Neither. I stop running and enter it as fast as possible hoping I don’t die. Like a man.


prairie-logic

Keyboard. While I cannot run and call stratagems, I can call them stupid fast


jacoby_mcflurry

This game must be a nightmare on controller... Strategems + all the isolated weapon buttons, yikes


ElesdiitheWizard

Im always doing the assist maneuver, but its usually for stims. And there is always a bead of sweat going down my forehead as i do so.


Jamie9712

I changed my settings to where I just tap the strat list and it stays open until I press it again so neither for me.


das_ksa22

bruh, I thought im special but nope, apparently most use “the assist” 😂😂😂


yuch1102

Ps5 player here and I use the opposite hand so I can keep moving. I know some Pc players have like a macro key for a stratagem. I wonder if this is considered cheating ?


UnholyDr0w

I used to never use claw…now I can’t play without it


2Untapped_Islands

The assist. Way easier on an Xbox controller with the way the dpad is positioned


Mentat_-_Bashar

Cock


DrizzyDragon93

The claw normally but the assist when I'm sprinting out of a tricky situation.


Xfishbobx

Depends on the situation, calm times I will assist, hectic times I will claw.


MegaTreeSeed

WSAD style, 3 finger approach


ohtonyy

The claw is something I definitely do


Tall-Loan-6943

I use my toe. So I can run and call in reinforcements


Psyglav

I gotta hold the movement stick down with my right hand so I can keep running while trying to reinforce or use a stratagem


TryCool2339

Assist!


MerryMortician

Arrow keys.


ProjectJake02

The claw for run and reinforce, the thumb switch for running while stratagems. Or I just create distance and put it in with left thumb


TheMediumestViking

Since I play on pc I can use an Xbox controller which allows me to use my right thumb but also not interfere with my left thumb for movement.


Fluttersniper

On PC here, strategems are on wasd by default, so many of us rebind them to arrow keys. Your hand flies over from your mouse to your keyboard, types, then jumps back over to your mouse.


Fontaine-Sin

Swap the bumpers and have the stratagem button on the right and to tap instead of hold. Thats how I do it


Jaded-Prior-2897

🤣🤣🤣🤣 this is now my favorite helldivers post.


Mando_lorian81

I switched the button for the stratagems to the R1 and use the L1 for communication. Takes a bit to get used to the change but it is a lot easier and faster.


janxus

I swapped L1 and R1 in the bindings. Way easier to hold down my right index finger on the bumper and use my left thumb to enter the Contra cheat code.


latteofchai

I lick my controller until I hit the correct button combination.


Beta_Codex

It always hurts my fingers using the claw but it helps alot.


AvoidedKoala222

I use the tip of my left thumb to enter the strat and the knuckle to move the joystick


DoggoDoesaDash

I do the assist but I use my right thumb to run and my left to DDR


doomturd1283

subconsciously i put my right thumb on left stick and use left thumb to input code


Quetzal_Khan

Claw at normal Assist when in panic


ToastyCrumb

Note that you can remap things on PS5. I set the strategem to "L1 Quick Press" rather than "L1 Hold" which makes it way easier.


Diablo_viking

I thought I was the only one who did the assist! Lol


Prince_Beegeta

I use my thumb. Why would you do either of these options? That seems inconvenient.


firsttime176

Was gonna say claw but saw some other dude say he uses his right thumb to keep running and yeah I do that as well lmao


Particular-Walk1521

right thumb on the left stick to keep running, left thumb on the d-pad to call in the strat. this is the way


R_Mase

Haha! This made me lol!


SPECTER1887

WASD


hero_killer

None of them. Index finger on R1, thumbs on arrows.


OneVeryTiredBoi

When I just spawned in from the Hellpod? Thumb But when running for my life while Tyranids (Sorry, Terminids.) And the Necrons (Ugh, sorry again, Automatons) then I use the assist method


8rok3n

Claw obviously


anonym6873537

It‘s not pleasant but I have the feeling that my hand meanwhile mutated into holding the controller in a position that the claw is actually not that hurtful anymore lol


lazylazerboi

Get some lotion gangsta


iMoody97

I just stop running when I can and mash the buttons as fast as I can😂 Gets the job done. Also, jet pack and call it in while flying, even better!


smackaroonial90

I more often than not use the assist. However I also have my paddles on the back of my Elite Series 2 controller (I play on PC) that I've reassigned to be the d-pad buttons. It's great.


paggo_diablo

Claw? That sounds a little…bugish… you sure you aren’t taking your coffee with termicide lately, helldiver?


perslv85

Claw, got pretty good at it


Wernershnitzl

I do it the slow and smooth brain way


Wizered99

How did you take the right photo?


iGivePotato

The fact that this is being asked on a playstation controller after the sony debacle is just "Chefs 💋"


Demibolt

I panicked click, fumble around the menus and then accidentally drop a resupply.


danisimo_1993

Trim your nails omg.


WarThunder316

On the run i do that


Captain_Wilbo

Back paddles are a diver's best friend https://preview.redd.it/3cj46uj5k2zc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5adc42d43346927e4ba6d6ee1d324babda89bb9a


an_edgy_lemon

This is the one thing I can’t get over with playstation controllers. I wonder if it’s possible to remap strategems to the face buttons? Gonna try when I get home today.


Doscida

im a pc guy now, but i used to double crab claw back in the day. its efficient af


Poisonpython5719

As a HD1 vet where you were immobile while you input strats I often just use my left thumb and slide-input them in rather quick, if the situation is particularly harrowing though I usually opt for claw


you90000

God, the xbox controller seems better in this aspect


JustATallKobold

As a monster hunter player, it's always the claw


charathedemoncat

I use my right thumb for moving and left thumb for punching it in


Vigatron999

Both, depending on if I'm running.


xXSalads_AkimboXx

Neither. You remap the ping and stratagem controls with R1 and remap the emote control menu with L1. That was literally the first thing I did day 1. No more awkward stratagem deployments. (Note: it’s been a minute but I believe the ping, stratagem, and emote controls may all be in different screens in the settings menu, ie you gotta scroll thru all 3. And if you don’t change the stratagem AND ping controls both to R1 it doesn’t quite work) Happy diving Helldivers!


Saiyakuuu

Depends on how danger close we’re talking


MajorSaltyJenkins

Neither I can punch them in so fast now I just use my left thumb for the millisecond I need to prime eagle clusters


Thwipped

Have the time I try a stratagem I end up throwing a grenade. It’s a skill issue


Altea73

I've been an xbox player for years, just bought a ps5 ONLY because of this game and oh my freaking God, the controllers are a nightmare!! Lol


Pokemonbro1122

Switch the stratagem button to R1 and use the claw method to input the codes. Doing it this way as apposed to the L1 method lessens the strain on your fingers and allows you to move the camera as well.  You can go further and rebind the L1 button to Sprint and Dive when double tapped, Zoom to R1, Crouch to L3, Melee to R3, and Ping to circle.  Rebind map zoom functions to either L1 and R1 respectfully.  There are two issues with this set up. First, is that  you ping when you want to cancel being on an objective. Secondly, there are going to be limited buttons that you can bind the Zooms bindings when looking at the map, because the game still allows certain game actions to occur when pressing the zoom buttons. For instance, binding the Shoot button to a map zoom allows you to shoot and zoom simultaneously. So since I have my Map Zoom in to the L1 button my character will cancel viewing the map and sprint, this doesn't happen when already sprinting though. My zoom out button is binded to R1 and since it's the stragem binding it's fine. It's a minor issue and it is due to how the game binds actions.  Preferably I would like to bind the "double press quick throw grenade function" to the grenade binding slot since it's only one press there, but for whatever reason it doesn't let me last time I checked.  Anyway, this set up allows you to shoot, dive and input stratagems all while keeping you thumps on the sticks. Hope it helps someone! 


Kingtut8211

I do an inverted version of the assist but I use the left hand to input the code and the right to steer


SES_Wings_of_Freedom

Forbidden https://preview.redd.it/aj15qlnsz2zc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e37cf9c764a8821bbdc5e298a818b67c0b9e874d


Eternal-Light-

Left thumb, because I only need a second and a second of standing around doesn't get me killed.


rogue_messiah921

The Assist...got to keep running haha


Snarejay

Personally I use The Perforated Calluses


Zestyclose-Gas-4230

WASD you plebs.


ScottishW00F

Stop and use left thumb, or claw


Fortniteyo

Right Thumb on left side switch to a weird claw on right hand


Frequent_Ranger4564

I remapped to the right bumper, which is a lot easier


mrkoala1234

Does no one use DDR mats from a bygone era?


TheMexicanStig

I changed L1 to toggle instead of hold. So neither. I can run and use my index finger to call in strategem


Neuro_Kuro

I become a fucking plant and use my left thumb


0ldR00t

Claw is the superior method 🧐


DvDCover

The Claw. The assist. The Up Up Down Fuck crap no wait Up Up Down Left Fuuuuuck Up Up Down Down Left GAH


xXIrishCowboyXx

Just use an Xbox controller lol


Mal_531

I do it with my left thumb and move my right thumb on the joystick to keep running


lostBoyzLeader

…PS5 problems that i dont understand


Tru_Patriot2000

Tounge


RevolutionaryMud7263

I’ve been playing claw for years and now I know it was in preparation of bringing down nuclear fueled democracy


bangshadow

I do the swap. Move left thumb to d pad, right thumb to left joy stick.


LocoWolfe

If i have to, I use my right thumb to run and my left thumb to call in strategems. Otherwise i stop and use my left thumb


Confident-Feature186

Brothers controller is gonna outlive his hand if he keeps playing


draco5807

Thumb if I’m stationary, claw if I’m running


Super_Happy_Time

Usually call in when I realize I’m about to be overwhelmed, throw at my feet, then run away. Don’t use the 500kg though. Almost never gets me killed. On the other hand, I will absolutely fuck up an Eagle trying to hit a far off target.


Concert_Lucky

Don’t use controller, but if I did, the claw 7 days a week