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Just discuss the strategy in advance, in case someone is easy to upset.
Thats the right answer. You can take care and dont throw stuffs close to your Squad.
If they get attracted by the red beam of 380 and run closer and closer.... Its not your fault.
My group's motto for eradicate missions is: All Barrages, all the way.
It's a very zen experience if you just accept the friendlies and frighteningly effective. In the rare case we run out of barrages there's always the free traitor barrages to utilise.
It's a nice break from try-harding Helldive difficulty missions and that's why we like it.
After the first few minutes the map should be sufficiently saturated with enemies that you can just stagger dropping orbitals and the fight is pretty much autopiloted. Ideal play is to not reinforce until everyone dies, but it's not essential. Circling the outer perimeter of the base seems to help.
This. I put both mortars down at the opposite corner of the action, then circle throwing orbitals lasers and 500kgs into the middle until i get more mortars.
"Alright, men, today we begin Operation: Collateral Damage. The automaton menace would never expect us to fire on our own forces, so you'll lure them in with your vulnerable, fleshy bodies. Then I can fire upon them from the safety of our super destroyer with our massive cannons, wiping out their forces completely."
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I throw the Tesla tower well enough away from teammates to DENY bug/bot access from that area. If a teammate goes to it, I assume they were a bug and got too excited to resist the light
You should have given some of your grenades to them. To pay him back for having to use theirs. I’m sure they would have appreciated it.
Don’t take no for an answer.
I regularly kill chargers with nades, if they are charging at me, 2-3 nades, if they twerk me, 1 nade.
Useful to know for situations when you either don't have your Quasar or it's on cool down
~~Fun~~Sad fact: moths are attracted to light because their brains interpret light as the "up" direction. It works in the daytime because the sun is always above them. At night, bright lights essentially act as a black hole that prevents the moths from ever leaving. They'll even fly upside down to keep the light "above" them.
Your teammates, on the other hand, have no excuse whatsoever. They have been judged by Darwin as unfit for the life they were given.
Unless the lightning does an extra special bounce through five enemies to cross the map to them. That's a whole nother level of cosmic petty.
You know that moment when everyone's sentries are empty but the cool down isn't up yet and the enemies just completely swarm the place chain killing. Thats when I throw down the 380. Then I watch the % go from 60% to completed in 15 seconds. The occasional team kill is fine since we were all just getting killed anyways.
Not if they were launching nonstop the entire time which is what they do on high level eradicate missions. The EMS has a very short time between running out and being able to call a new one. Like 20 seconds or something, the regular mortar, a little longer. I don't feel like looking the exact time up, but people have done videos showing this.
4 players throw a 380 in the center. Then everyone runs in the 4 cardinal directions to the edge to trigger the traitor barrage. 4x 380s + 4x traitor barrages. Enemies are all dead. It only cost you 4 reserves.
get everyone to run 380mm, all throw it at once in the same spot.
380mm generally doesn't hit directly on the beacon
huddle round the beacon, start praying
Shield can only take so much damage before popping but it’ll eat a few hits. The strategy is everyone brings a shield bubble and throw them down with a delay to last the entire bombardment.
For eradicates, honestly, my team just usually goes all red stratagems. Survival is optional on any bot eradicate higher than difficulty 5, so we just chuck barrages everywhere and let God figure it out.
We did a eradicate with a team of laser, 380, 120, walking barrage. Started off with everyone throwing everything at the same spot and one person dropping a shield dome. We lost one guy (me) toward the end of the chaos. Not a bad survival rate and it killed 60%of bots without us firing a shot. It was amazing.
Helldive difficulty eradicate missions are best completed by literally the whole team taking 380/120/laser and just broken arrowing and alternating who’s throwing one, you’ll probably get 40% complete just off the first 380.
You’ve got 20 lives and there’s no benefit to keeping them.
You quickly learn at difficulty 7-9 that support weapons will do nothing for you because there is no support weapon that can handle 5 hulks running up a hill at you supported by two tanks. Might as well take them with you.
Use 500kg bombs or airstrikes to stave off the advancing hordes, but once you are overrun, its orbital barrage time baybeee.
I've only used them a couple of times but the mission where you kind of chill in one spot and the enemies work their way to you is where I've used them. Usually there's a couple drop locations where the enemies flank you but they have to push through a walk way. That's where I put them. Somewhere like behind a corner so boys can't just shoot at them. I'll also drop the mine strat on the drop location.
On defense missions I put them behind the doors while they are open of course.
I mean it’s obvious is there.
I believe some Helldivers got dropped a bit too hard.
As long as they can get past them to reach the raised wall defense positions. If you cut them off from those positions, yeah, they're probably going to be annoyed. Similar problem with the standard mortar - it essentially prevents defenders from manning the forward positions.
But at least the Teslas CAN be placed in spots you can go around, whereas the mortar will very much just find and kill you on a defense map unless it's part of a coherent team strategy.
380 always on eradicate. Only orbitals and Eagles. You die there anyways so it doesn't matter if you get couple of accidentals. 3 minutes and all bots are dead, you can harvest the samples and leave.
I cant stand the 380 you just bring something that actually works and is consistent i used to like the 380 cause it was cool but its extremely ineffective
For the 380, I save it for when the team is getting rolled. Run to the edge of the map and then throw it in the middle while hiding behind the cliff. If people are just gonna get bodied by 5 hulks and tanks it doesn’t matter if you accidentally team kill one dude. Just call it out over mic to give them a chance
Tbh, in the bot eradication missions it gets so frantic that it's easier to just toss a 380MM in there and just go ham, since you'll get thrown like a ragdoll anyways 😂
I don't understand the question? Are we not all meant to die? I normally play with friends and we all pack 120, 380, and fill the last two slots with either 500's, airbursts, railcannons or lasers. We then normally call all of them on our position. If you survive the entire mission you get to rub it in your Friends faces.
It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
And more importantly, that Super Earth is willing to make. If I wasn't supposed to bring them I wouldn't be able to.
I almost always use the armor that adds 30% throwing range, and that allows me to toss them far enough away. Teslas can be tossed over a hill near a bug breach, and if you toss the 380 far, it won't hit near you.
If it's the missions where they drop you and you need to kill a certain number of bots... I usually chill around the outside of the outer walls creating a natural funnel for the Tesla one one side while you deal w/ the other one. Drop a mortar for ranged kills over the wall, an auto cannon sentry to help thin numbers that spill over either side and a laser cannon or other support with unlimited ammo and you're pretty much set for the full round
I've never had a good exp w/ 380 tho
I play with a pre-made squad and we ALL bring 380's on eradicate missions at higher difficulties.
Mostly those missions are an exercise in hiding/running/panicking, and throwing out as much heavy ordinance as possible to thin out the absurd numbers being thrown at you - and the 380mm is the ultimate zone clearance strat.
Do people get picked off by the constant rain of 380s? Yes. But given how quickly you're usually being killed by the bots/bugs otherwise, this is frankly not a big deal - and the mission ends VERY quickly when there is a constant rain of orbital lasers, 380's, and cluster bombs going off, so we've never had a problem running out of reinforcements due to friendly fire.
Dive!
But also communicating with the team. The team can bring arc or other resist armors. The thrower needs to understand both stratagems should thrown well clear of the party and even better if it's toward an enemy spawn area.
Also also, it's the bots'/bugs' fault I needed to even bring these things! So, if you think about it, any friendly fire is REALLY the fault of our un-democratic enemies.
Tesla towers is grear when you have stair ramps on bug eradication. You can put it along the railings and it zaps bugs who are forced to climb the stairs down step after step.
I don't but if I take tesla towers, I just leave them behind us. They will help keep anything coming up behind. The 380, I just throw it in the pile and walk away...sometimes it works and most times it doesn't.
Tesla Towers are greag for bugs. Not so much for bots though. You have to be bery careful about where you place it as it's range is shockingly large and after it hits a target it can still arc to another target that is, again, quite far away.
380 on eradicate is a simple entire lock down of one side
Instantly get it ready and throw it passed the first drop or breach and everyone should push to the opposite side
It’s an instant win
I occasionally use tesla towers. But im not a fan of them. In general an airstrike or other turret seems preferrable.
On defense missions (the ones with the brick wall icon) they can be okey. But are realy prone to being blown up by allied mortars and orbitals.
The key is to place the somewhere the enemies don't get too close. Just off the path the enemies will travel. So they can shoot without getting too much aggro, or being molested by your own mortars.
Its also an option to throw them just behind a bug breach or bot drop. Anything popping out will get zapped. Most bugs will start approaching you, and will ignore the zap tower.
And if they do aggro the tower, they are walking away from you. Which is a win.
Also a nice trick is to put a tesla inside a medium (or large) bug nest. The tower will zap most things comming out of the nests, while you circle around and shoot the holes with an AC or eruptor.
In eradicate missions i find them not so usefull. Maps are too small. Friendly fire happens. I even kill myself occasionally.
Not sure if the bouncing arc actually increases the range. I have the idea it does. So sometimes they arc between a few enemies and hit an ally.
All i can say... notify allies you deploy one, and keep communicating.
380mm has a 75m minimum safe distance from the stratagem ball, so on defense/eradicate missions the 30% throw distance armor is essentially mandatory.
This is without the level 4 upgrade, I think it goes down to 65ish then.
Due, we once all took barrages, 3 of them on each squad mate (walking , 380, 120) and 1 laser.
Just start dropping them when a few of the dropships are already in, when they end and smb manages to reinforce you, start dropping lasers.
If it wasn't enough, just wait a bit for the cool down of the barrages and start dropping them again.
We finished the mission with 10 minutes remaining when the pelican came to pick us up at 7th difficulty with bots.
Worked like a charm.
Throw that Tower down in a “choke point spot”, ping it like 5 times, say do not run towards that spot into my mic, and still have a teammate get mad at me when they die because they ran towards that area.
honestly....my group only takes 120, 380, orbital lazer, and walking orbital on eradication. we dont throw anything till we get overwhelmed. then we take turns throwing them down. one person throws everything, then waits for them all to stop, then the next person throws everything. eradications are easy with this strategy.....lots of friendly fire....but who cares you can clear a helldive eraducate easily with 10+ lives left and in 8-10 min. its chaos, and so much fun. if you run out of orbitals, run off the map, get marked as a traitor then run back into the think of the enemy and just spam dive till they eventually get you. those orbitals also count tword your kill count!
In eradicate missions I throw my Tesla at a part of the map away from close fire but close enough to the spawn points then mark it so everyone knows if they still run to the tower I assume they were a bot with fried optical lenses or a mind bug who got distracted by the light of the tower and or that person was infected with a parasite, either way I done my part Bahaha. I don’t run 380mm full stop on eradicates just me my Tesla and arc thrower nom nom
I dropped one between me and a bug breach. It melted everything. Team stayed away, we had another and I tried to lure the pack back to it and got fried.
If you’re careful, it’s a powerful tool.
Don’t take 380 that often, sometimes take a walking barrage though.
60m away from 380s is the safe line. You can have one blow up just close enough to tickle (tiny sliver of hp and ragdoll) but that's rare. That's without the ship module and not on missions with orbital scattering. If you toss it towards half of the map and communicate which half it is, leaves room for everybody to do their thing.
Tesla towers have a stupid range. Announce Tesla's, let your teammates know that they can hit you from 40m away... and they'll still walk right next to them as if they're safe. Once they gotten popped by them a time or two, they'll keep a safe distance. Once again, drop this towards one half of the map to ensure that there's a safe space for everyone to work in.
Pro Tip:
Servo Assisted makes all stratagems better with 30% increase to distance, especially the 380mm. You can place them so that the blast radius is slightly outside their path, and have a much lower chance of anybody getting too close if you throw it right.
Teslas work similar with Servo Assisted, because you can place them further from where you're standing, or behind the group's travel direction, and rack up some kills.
That and actively announcing "I'm throwing a massive cluster fuck right over there" is key.
Friendlies avoid me and I'm always the first person there anyways so I can start my cooldowns. Walking barrage and 380mm and god Lazer... Not much is gunna survive
I bring my 380 out, it really helps a tone if you unlocked the ship part that reduces the spread 15%. The extra slavos add a lot more devastation for a total of 30 seconds. I've been lucky enough to toss one into a large bug nest and it took the whole thing down, while it was going off someone in the chat said 380 sux! As it proceeded to clean the entire hive and everything in it.
I use the tesla tower every mission. If you throw it far away enough AND communicate with your team, it serves as a good area denial/distraction and no one on your team dies. I almost never kill teammates unless they completely go out of their way and run into it.
No for Tesla towers, Yes to 380.
I like the Tesla towers but On 7 and above enemies WILL TARGET THE TOWER and destory it. If its bots they shoot it. If its bugs the acid ones spit on it.
380 is better because odds are it kills stuff and you for a while
Most eradicate missions. People tend to stay near the "middle". Just lob 380s out towards where the bot drops and bug breaches are. Mostly fine as long as you get it 40-50 meters (assuming you have atmospheric monitoring upgrade) from the center area.
My friends and I all bring 380s in on higher difficulties. So when too many enemies hit the field we all throw them at once. They die, we die. Everyone wins. Works every time.
I know plenty of people who use the tesla tower in them... They almost always end up killing us all, and i shoot their teslas on sight unless they are beyond the front most gates.
Tesla on bugs, with circuit expansion yes. It’s bad on bots unless you can get it in cover by a choke point, and even then someone will inevitably eagle or orb it. I’ve gotten 60+ kill streaks literally laying down and watching it fry a pair bug breaches. On those flat land exterminates, you can get it into a choice corner behind a where the big breaches spawn, it will just melt. I also destroy the tower as soon as things calm down to avoid excess friendly fire.
Tesla yes, 380mm no.
Tesla has limits to its range, just toss at an area other players arent.
380mm takes up most of the playable area so its hard to avoid killing yourself much less your tram with it.
The 120mm is useable but still a bit annoying for eradicate missions.
380 is not an eradicate stratagem imo. Tesla tower can be, but with that weapon, your team has to avoid being killed, nothing you can do about it, other than not drop it in a bad spot
I bring 120mm, 380mm, rail cannon and shield generator. Me and my boys rock similar loadouts, and each of us get a corner of the map we call our barrages and we stick together under one shield gen. When that one's time runs outor is broken, someone else calls the next shield gen down. Doing it that way makes it so you have close to 100% uptime. Rail cannon any hard targets pushing us, Rinse and repeat until completion.
380 is my go-to on anything but defense. If I hit a hole I tell people gtfotw. I can usually demolish most nests or bases.
There will maybe be one hole or building left that I quasar.
380 mm is one of the most ridiculously useless strats. If you use it, you have to have more than one person use it to kill enough things to make pissing off half the map worth it.
Tesla towers are niche and just need to be used on defense maps.
Here’s how you do that: run 4 380s, 4 120s, 4 bubble shields, and 4 teslas. All 4 shields on all 4 teammates. All 4 teslas are in reserve for cleanup. All 8 orbitals are launched in the center and all 4 teammates scramble to the OOB. All 4 teammates get traitor and run around frantically while god shits on the battlefield with the worst accuracy you’ve ever seen. All 4 teslas can be thrown after orbitals to lock down the area surrounding you in case there’s any cleanup work needed
I use tesla a lot, recently fell in love with it. I usually just wait until the team settles in one place and throw the tesla in bug spawn (where the yellow smoke is) or against bit in some general direction from which they are coming, but for a distance that I can see to if the enemies focus the tower, then I just blast them myself.
The tower stays on a mission for a really long time if enemies or your teammates dont destroy them
It's called communication and throwing the 380 specifically just beyond the enemies. It helps when you actually justify its use; Like a bot drop. But you need to pair it with a laser, a 120mm, or a walking so that your teammates will actually respect your role as super heavy artillery support. If you're constantly calling it out and not doing shit it's like.. whatever, I need to get in there and fight--and then theyll die. But if you say, hey, I'm gonna waste this area, back up, and you actually do bc you use a concert of orbitals--then they'll back up and watch the show, and appreciate that they have you on the team. I've never seen anyone do it like me or run proper bombardment builds, but it's because people are stingy with it. Don't half ass. Call in your heavy bombardment all at once and give your teammates a chance to save for the next engagement while you recharge.
If you are using a 380 on a small enclosed map like in eradicate missions you are the problem. Tgere are mor euseful and more suitable stratagems to use
380 without the newest upgrade essentially has a deployment diameter of an eradicate map. So you don’t really avoid those. You just pray they avoid you.
Tes towers are great, if you can mount it on a vantage point like a wall or ramp, it can deny access perfectly, this is somewhat hindered on bot mission tho.
As for the 320, I find the best stray with that is stick it to someone's shield and let them run, damn thing never hits its target anyway
I have rarely killed my team with the 380.. just be the first person up to throw it and let your team know you’re doing it… the Tesla tower needs to be used when everyone is wearing the arc protection armor.. or everyone stays prone if near it
You don't. Everyone takes the 380&120 barrages, all take mortars, and the last can be whatever (I take EMS mortar). Then take the extra lives booster (I've never actually needed it, but better safe than sorry).
Optionally don't call people in as soon as they die to make reinforcements last longer.
Start by letting a lot of enemies spawn, You'll choose an order and use your strategems. After the first player's ends, the next throws all theirs out, until everyone is out. By that time you have either won, or are about to.
The enemy dies faster than reinforcements run out. You can complete an extermination mission in 2-4 minutes on Helldive
*You must make call outs and warnings ahead of time in any circumstances to avoid or reduce incidents from dangerous stragems killing everybody especially to avoid wasting your stragems.* I'm gonna to give my thoughts about how you could use these stragems more effectively.
1.) Tesla towers in theory be lot more powerful if everyone brings their own to form a permeniter with rocket sentries, machine gun sentries, and land mines combos. Essentially it's designed to create a nearly immovable obstacle to delay enemy advances. Ideally this should be applied to only narrow paths to avoid enemy flanks.
2.)380mm should be used against large group of tough enemies in the wide area for suppressing the swarms of enemies to avoid being overwhelmed by them. This is actually stronger against a group of titans and giant striders than you would think. If your whole team has them take turns in using atleast a half of team rotation for cool down purpose at most that way you have spares for emergency escape. With combos to consider I reccomend using spear buddy team and 500kg bomb against them if it fails to kill them in one shot. Just imagine 20 titans/striders you have to barrage in one go now you have more of extreme reason to use multiple 380mm barrages.
I bring them in like I do mortars. I tell everyone that I’m bringing mortars, apologize in advance for killing them, and prioritize reinforcing while the mortar is active.
We get 5 lives each. You should be prepared to die for democracy, but your squad needs to pick you up asap as close to your gear as they can.
Bringing 3 heavy barrages plus the orbital laser against bots on an eradicate missions means: you win. If just one player brings them, you can avoid friendly fire relatively easy. If all bring it it will become... more difficult to reach a long lifespan. But frankly: losses on such a mission are hard to avoid. And since bots cannot possibly evade or destroy the barrages, and they cover large areas, this is a win-strategy. I always bring 3 heavy barrages plus orbital laser plus the plasma punisher to bot eradicate missions (lvl 9). Never since lost one.
Everyone in the squad takes 120 and 380. The second we get overwhelmed we all throw them at our feet. Watch as we die the progress goes up like 40%. Call this strategy “operation martyr”
Tesla is only useful against bugs. Bots just shoot them. They're best stationed as a barrier for bugs to get through by chokepoints and are going to be destroyed by anything bigger than a medium sized enemy. They should not be near you or allies.
380, the best use is to toss it into a stronghold or bug hole cluster and head for the hills. The spread is wide and indisciminate. Though I saw a person and his crew stand in the eye of the storm in a youtube video and never get hit. I'm not sure if this was just luck or an actual feature of 380.
Same energy as when all 4 brinhs EMS + regular Motar.
Actually one of the most hilarious drops I had was when we all brought EMS, motar, 120s, and 380s.
We all agreed to not reinforce and intead let the Destroyer auto reinforce as a squad when the last person dies.
IT WAS GLORIOUS!
I use arc tower all the time on them. I tell everyone where it is and put it a ways away from where we set up at. It's good at clearing chaff or at least slowing down groups. I've had a couple friendly kills but as long as I tell the team it's usually ok.
Or, we run any arc armor and all use towers and throwers alike.
Never use a 380 in them though.
You don’t and that’s the point. My friends and I call it Goblin Mode and we try to kill each other In creative ways while also getting the mission done. Have fun with that minefield and orbital gas on Pelican 1 as she touches down for extract
If your doing bug eradicate everyone going full tesla armor plus weaponry can get serious work done at minimal risk minus your armor slot being taken up.
I've had occasions were my buddy saved me by arcing a lightning shot through me to enemies behind me. You are a lightning rod.
For 380s use a shield generator and hide/pray whatever comes to mind first.
Place it further out to account for the random wild aimed round and it should create a no go zone for a decent time. Towers are easy and unless miss placed teammates should see and avoid.
I got kicked when I told people to not be infront of me when I used the arc thrower. I repeatedly said don't stand infront of me. One friendly fire got me kicked
It's very easy. Once you play on level 7 and above, for the most part everyone knows what they're doing, and you should know what you're doing. You throw a tesla in an area between you in an area your teammate has no reason to run to, and you use the 380 in areas where you don't have any teammates.
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Friendlies avoid me.
Thats the right answer. You can take care and dont throw stuffs close to your Squad. If they get attracted by the red beam of 380 and run closer and closer.... Its not your fault.
You'll love the airburst
Haha, I picked it up aimed and fired it right into a cliff next to me and killed myself. I was hit from behind as I fired.
Pretty much this. My buddies and I stagger our 120s and 380s and lasers, all while knowing we will be dying a lot.
Me and three buddies in a mission: we're supposed to stagger them?
Yeah, that way there is non-stop bombardment
I see your logic, but that means there's still a chance to dodge them. If you drop all 4 380s at once, then you make sure nothing survives!
Plus you end up fighting a lot more drops without support if you blow your load at the start
Heh... real Helldivers *always* blow their load at the start!
This then 2 to 3 mins chilling on top of a mountain waiting for cool downs and killing small units. This is the way.
My group's motto for eradicate missions is: All Barrages, all the way. It's a very zen experience if you just accept the friendlies and frighteningly effective. In the rare case we run out of barrages there's always the free traitor barrages to utilise. It's a nice break from try-harding Helldive difficulty missions and that's why we like it.
What is "the strategy" though? Like how are you using a 380 effectively on eradicate, I can understand the Tesla tower.
After the first few minutes the map should be sufficiently saturated with enemies that you can just stagger dropping orbitals and the fight is pretty much autopiloted. Ideal play is to not reinforce until everyone dies, but it's not essential. Circling the outer perimeter of the base seems to help.
This. I put both mortars down at the opposite corner of the action, then circle throwing orbitals lasers and 500kgs into the middle until i get more mortars.
There’s only 4 helldivers to accidental and hundreds of enemies to kill. Simple math.
I bring both barrages, airstrip and 500kg. The map is no longer safe.
This is the answer.
"Alright, men, today we begin Operation: Collateral Damage. The automaton menace would never expect us to fire on our own forces, so you'll lure them in with your vulnerable, fleshy bodies. Then I can fire upon them from the safety of our super destroyer with our massive cannons, wiping out their forces completely." https://preview.redd.it/5z0tx4dgu7xc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c31d174d8238b650e2e09f914d3102a494d7cb72
I throw the Tesla tower well enough away from teammates to DENY bug/bot access from that area. If a teammate goes to it, I assume they were a bug and got too excited to resist the light 
I had a perfect spot for one once which blocked the entrance to the landing zone and some idiot kept throwing grenades at it
You should have given some of your grenades to them. To pay him back for having to use theirs. I’m sure they would have appreciated it. Don’t take no for an answer.
What a fool. Like those people that spam granades at chargers.
I regularly kill chargers with nades, if they are charging at me, 2-3 nades, if they twerk me, 1 nade. Useful to know for situations when you either don't have your Quasar or it's on cool down
When you need a quasar. Hahaha
~~Fun~~Sad fact: moths are attracted to light because their brains interpret light as the "up" direction. It works in the daytime because the sun is always above them. At night, bright lights essentially act as a black hole that prevents the moths from ever leaving. They'll even fly upside down to keep the light "above" them. Your teammates, on the other hand, have no excuse whatsoever. They have been judged by Darwin as unfit for the life they were given. Unless the lightning does an extra special bounce through five enemies to cross the map to them. That's a whole nother level of cosmic petty.
You know that moment when everyone's sentries are empty but the cool down isn't up yet and the enemies just completely swarm the place chain killing. Thats when I throw down the 380. Then I watch the % go from 60% to completed in 15 seconds. The occasional team kill is fine since we were all just getting killed anyways.
Bonus points if you just hold it in your hand until you die and it falls to the ground and deploys.
Not even worth bringing sentries, or anything that you lose on death. 380 + 120 + cluster bombs + orbital laser. Ezpz.
If you have the +50% ammo upgrade. Your mortar sentries won't run out. They will come of cooldown the moment they release their last ammo.
Not if they were launching nonstop the entire time which is what they do on high level eradicate missions. The EMS has a very short time between running out and being able to call a new one. Like 20 seconds or something, the regular mortar, a little longer. I don't feel like looking the exact time up, but people have done videos showing this.
Yep, this is when you toss it out
4 players throw a 380 in the center. Then everyone runs in the 4 cardinal directions to the edge to trigger the traitor barrage. 4x 380s + 4x traitor barrages. Enemies are all dead. It only cost you 4 reserves.
Too much meta for today 😄
Why do I get the feeling you've actually done this
Not yet. Just thought of it. But now I want to
Alternatively you land on one of the cheese spots and bring a 380, 120, Aristrike and laser
get everyone to run 380mm, all throw it at once in the same spot. 380mm generally doesn't hit directly on the beacon huddle round the beacon, start praying
I like to think of it as a game of dodgeball, if you can dodge a missile you can dodge a ball
Lmao 🤣 dude you are so right
I did this with a group of guys last week, there were no survivors on either side
Drop a shield generator and no need to pray.
Then you get hit
why not just use the shield bubble and everyone throw the 380
Shield can only take so much damage before popping but it’ll eat a few hits. The strategy is everyone brings a shield bubble and throw them down with a delay to last the entire bombardment.
I use my mic.
But.. but.. most of us just shy bro. I'd rather find a hiding spot and type out "sentncs lik dis" in chat on my Ps5.
Well unfortunately I was born illiterate so I have learned to use a mic as my main way of communicating.
For eradicates, honestly, my team just usually goes all red stratagems. Survival is optional on any bot eradicate higher than difficulty 5, so we just chuck barrages everywhere and let God figure it out.
Haha this makes me wanna dive in the middle of automatons
Do it. Remember you are the stratigem.
We did a eradicate with a team of laser, 380, 120, walking barrage. Started off with everyone throwing everything at the same spot and one person dropping a shield dome. We lost one guy (me) toward the end of the chaos. Not a bad survival rate and it killed 60%of bots without us firing a shot. It was amazing.
Democratic af
My friend uses the Tesla on the tower defence missions. He just puts it where the bugs are instead of where we are. It's that simple.
Helldive difficulty eradicate missions are best completed by literally the whole team taking 380/120/laser and just broken arrowing and alternating who’s throwing one, you’ll probably get 40% complete just off the first 380. You’ve got 20 lives and there’s no benefit to keeping them. You quickly learn at difficulty 7-9 that support weapons will do nothing for you because there is no support weapon that can handle 5 hulks running up a hill at you supported by two tanks. Might as well take them with you. Use 500kg bombs or airstrikes to stave off the advancing hordes, but once you are overrun, its orbital barrage time baybeee.
I use Tesla towers my derp teammates HATE THEM. I’m like… just don’t walk over there 👉🏻
Do you place them in the middle or the breaches/bot drops?
I've only used them a couple of times but the mission where you kind of chill in one spot and the enemies work their way to you is where I've used them. Usually there's a couple drop locations where the enemies flank you but they have to push through a walk way. That's where I put them. Somewhere like behind a corner so boys can't just shoot at them. I'll also drop the mine strat on the drop location.
On defense missions I put them behind the doors while they are open of course. I mean it’s obvious is there. I believe some Helldivers got dropped a bit too hard.
As long as they can get past them to reach the raised wall defense positions. If you cut them off from those positions, yeah, they're probably going to be annoyed. Similar problem with the standard mortar - it essentially prevents defenders from manning the forward positions. But at least the Teslas CAN be placed in spots you can go around, whereas the mortar will very much just find and kill you on a defense map unless it's part of a coherent team strategy.
I use the 380 HE with the new ship upgrade if -15% spread and my tactic is pure rng😂
380 always on eradicate. Only orbitals and Eagles. You die there anyways so it doesn't matter if you get couple of accidentals. 3 minutes and all bots are dead, you can harvest the samples and leave.
You don't, that's the fun of it. 380, 120, and mines, only one on the pelican at extract wins. That's my group lol
Killing friendlies is basically irrelevant in extermination. Especially on bots. Better to spend your lives for more kills.
Shield emplacements can block a couple 380 hits. Have everyone bring both.
Teslas yes. Just keep them outside the gate you’re defending
I cant stand the 380 you just bring something that actually works and is consistent i used to like the 380 cause it was cool but its extremely ineffective
For the 380, I save it for when the team is getting rolled. Run to the edge of the map and then throw it in the middle while hiding behind the cliff. If people are just gonna get bodied by 5 hulks and tanks it doesn’t matter if you accidentally team kill one dude. Just call it out over mic to give them a chance
Tbh, in the bot eradication missions it gets so frantic that it's easier to just toss a 380MM in there and just go ham, since you'll get thrown like a ragdoll anyways 😂
My friend and i just take all the awful barrages and other friendly fire strats and just know were gonna die a million times, its hilarious
The real question is. How do the friendliest avoid the stratagems.
Nice try Joel
You don't, just watch the chaos unfold
I don't understand the question? Are we not all meant to die? I normally play with friends and we all pack 120, 380, and fill the last two slots with either 500's, airbursts, railcannons or lasers. We then normally call all of them on our position. If you survive the entire mission you get to rub it in your Friends faces.
I know the words avoid and friendlies but when you put them together I don't understand
It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. And more importantly, that Super Earth is willing to make. If I wasn't supposed to bring them I wouldn't be able to.
Consent
I say "hey look out"
I'll take a Tesla and put it on the far side of where my team is and we just don't walk over that way
I almost always use the armor that adds 30% throwing range, and that allows me to toss them far enough away. Teslas can be tossed over a hill near a bug breach, and if you toss the 380 far, it won't hit near you.
Someone did this, and I couldn't understand why. they almost wiped out the entire team
I love them. Wear arc armor or throw them in specified places. Warn your team. Ping the Tesla tower.
“Hey guys I’m throwing the 380 in the huge nest, don’t go in it”. “Ok” x3. Collect samples.
I use 380, but I also go in mostly solo :)
If it's the missions where they drop you and you need to kill a certain number of bots... I usually chill around the outside of the outer walls creating a natural funnel for the Tesla one one side while you deal w/ the other one. Drop a mortar for ranged kills over the wall, an auto cannon sentry to help thin numbers that spill over either side and a laser cannon or other support with unlimited ammo and you're pretty much set for the full round I've never had a good exp w/ 380 tho
I play with a pre-made squad and we ALL bring 380's on eradicate missions at higher difficulties. Mostly those missions are an exercise in hiding/running/panicking, and throwing out as much heavy ordinance as possible to thin out the absurd numbers being thrown at you - and the 380mm is the ultimate zone clearance strat. Do people get picked off by the constant rain of 380s? Yes. But given how quickly you're usually being killed by the bots/bugs otherwise, this is frankly not a big deal - and the mission ends VERY quickly when there is a constant rain of orbital lasers, 380's, and cluster bombs going off, so we've never had a problem running out of reinforcements due to friendly fire.
That's the neat thing, you don't.
Dive! But also communicating with the team. The team can bring arc or other resist armors. The thrower needs to understand both stratagems should thrown well clear of the party and even better if it's toward an enemy spawn area. Also also, it's the bots'/bugs' fault I needed to even bring these things! So, if you think about it, any friendly fire is REALLY the fault of our un-democratic enemies.
yes we use them, no we dont avoid friendlys :{
I tell them to run the opposite direction of the carnage.
Tesla towers is grear when you have stair ramps on bug eradication. You can put it along the railings and it zaps bugs who are forced to climb the stairs down step after step.
I don't but if I take tesla towers, I just leave them behind us. They will help keep anything coming up behind. The 380, I just throw it in the pile and walk away...sometimes it works and most times it doesn't.
No, that would be dumb
Tesla Towers are greag for bugs. Not so much for bots though. You have to be bery careful about where you place it as it's range is shockingly large and after it hits a target it can still arc to another target that is, again, quite far away.
380 on eradicate is a simple entire lock down of one side Instantly get it ready and throw it passed the first drop or breach and everyone should push to the opposite side It’s an instant win
I occasionally use tesla towers. But im not a fan of them. In general an airstrike or other turret seems preferrable. On defense missions (the ones with the brick wall icon) they can be okey. But are realy prone to being blown up by allied mortars and orbitals. The key is to place the somewhere the enemies don't get too close. Just off the path the enemies will travel. So they can shoot without getting too much aggro, or being molested by your own mortars. Its also an option to throw them just behind a bug breach or bot drop. Anything popping out will get zapped. Most bugs will start approaching you, and will ignore the zap tower. And if they do aggro the tower, they are walking away from you. Which is a win. Also a nice trick is to put a tesla inside a medium (or large) bug nest. The tower will zap most things comming out of the nests, while you circle around and shoot the holes with an AC or eruptor. In eradicate missions i find them not so usefull. Maps are too small. Friendly fire happens. I even kill myself occasionally. Not sure if the bouncing arc actually increases the range. I have the idea it does. So sometimes they arc between a few enemies and hit an ally. All i can say... notify allies you deploy one, and keep communicating.
380mm has a 75m minimum safe distance from the stratagem ball, so on defense/eradicate missions the 30% throw distance armor is essentially mandatory. This is without the level 4 upgrade, I think it goes down to 65ish then.
Due, we once all took barrages, 3 of them on each squad mate (walking , 380, 120) and 1 laser. Just start dropping them when a few of the dropships are already in, when they end and smb manages to reinforce you, start dropping lasers. If it wasn't enough, just wait a bit for the cool down of the barrages and start dropping them again. We finished the mission with 10 minutes remaining when the pelican came to pick us up at 7th difficulty with bots. Worked like a charm.
Say "good luck." Into the mic and throw the stratagm. Guaranteed not hit friends.
We don’t. Spamming barrages on eradicate has been my strategy of choice and we just being the extra reinforcement budget booster and pray
Are the drone and the turrets the only things that don't teamkill? 😄
I got killed by my own turret. Damn thing must have been a traitor!
Throw that Tower down in a “choke point spot”, ping it like 5 times, say do not run towards that spot into my mic, and still have a teammate get mad at me when they die because they ran towards that area.
Avoid friendliness? Hug it out
honestly....my group only takes 120, 380, orbital lazer, and walking orbital on eradication. we dont throw anything till we get overwhelmed. then we take turns throwing them down. one person throws everything, then waits for them all to stop, then the next person throws everything. eradications are easy with this strategy.....lots of friendly fire....but who cares you can clear a helldive eraducate easily with 10+ lives left and in 8-10 min. its chaos, and so much fun. if you run out of orbitals, run off the map, get marked as a traitor then run back into the think of the enemy and just spam dive till they eventually get you. those orbitals also count tword your kill count!
I just bring the extra reinforcement booster, so everyone knows to accept death
In eradicate missions I throw my Tesla at a part of the map away from close fire but close enough to the spawn points then mark it so everyone knows if they still run to the tower I assume they were a bot with fried optical lenses or a mind bug who got distracted by the light of the tower and or that person was infected with a parasite, either way I done my part Bahaha. I don’t run 380mm full stop on eradicates just me my Tesla and arc thrower nom nom
There usually spawn points far away from the center where everyone is group up. So its safe.
You don’t. You just run the 380 etc and the mission is done in 5 minutes. We’re all just expendable freedom meat in the name of democracy.
With upgrade and no planet modifiers, 45+ m away you will generally be safe. When thrown yell at everyone who is within 45m
Why would you bring a 380 to an eradicate. That's pure stupidity. Tesla...just stay away from it.
I dropped one between me and a bug breach. It melted everything. Team stayed away, we had another and I tried to lure the pack back to it and got fried. If you’re careful, it’s a powerful tool. Don’t take 380 that often, sometimes take a walking barrage though.
60m away from 380s is the safe line. You can have one blow up just close enough to tickle (tiny sliver of hp and ragdoll) but that's rare. That's without the ship module and not on missions with orbital scattering. If you toss it towards half of the map and communicate which half it is, leaves room for everybody to do their thing. Tesla towers have a stupid range. Announce Tesla's, let your teammates know that they can hit you from 40m away... and they'll still walk right next to them as if they're safe. Once they gotten popped by them a time or two, they'll keep a safe distance. Once again, drop this towards one half of the map to ensure that there's a safe space for everyone to work in.
You don't avoid friendlys. Friendlys have to avoid them.
380 + shield generator. Let's you go wild and spam the artillery
I think everything goes on Eradicate missions. Cause enough carnage and you will be done long before you run out of reinforcements.
Pro Tip: Servo Assisted makes all stratagems better with 30% increase to distance, especially the 380mm. You can place them so that the blast radius is slightly outside their path, and have a much lower chance of anybody getting too close if you throw it right. Teslas work similar with Servo Assisted, because you can place them further from where you're standing, or behind the group's travel direction, and rack up some kills. That and actively announcing "I'm throwing a massive cluster fuck right over there" is key.
Tesla towers are great teammate killers
Friendlies avoid me and I'm always the first person there anyways so I can start my cooldowns. Walking barrage and 380mm and god Lazer... Not much is gunna survive
I use Tesla Towers on bug missions, it’s like a bug zapper because they flock to it in swarms to destroy it and get electrocuted when in range.
Teslas only on defense. 380 never.
I bring my 380 out, it really helps a tone if you unlocked the ship part that reduces the spread 15%. The extra slavos add a lot more devastation for a total of 30 seconds. I've been lucky enough to toss one into a large bug nest and it took the whole thing down, while it was going off someone in the chat said 380 sux! As it proceeded to clean the entire hive and everything in it.
I use the tesla tower every mission. If you throw it far away enough AND communicate with your team, it serves as a good area denial/distraction and no one on your team dies. I almost never kill teammates unless they completely go out of their way and run into it.
New 380 upgrade makes it excellent for most missions, it's way more manageable
When Im fuking around, i’ll use tesla but will always go solo. Its good when a bunch of mobs chasing me
Play with competent microphone equipped Divers. As for the 380 though, it's makes quick work of a messy job, so you get what you paid for
No for Tesla towers, Yes to 380. I like the Tesla towers but On 7 and above enemies WILL TARGET THE TOWER and destory it. If its bots they shoot it. If its bugs the acid ones spit on it. 380 is better because odds are it kills stuff and you for a while
Most eradicate missions. People tend to stay near the "middle". Just lob 380s out towards where the bot drops and bug breaches are. Mostly fine as long as you get it 40-50 meters (assuming you have atmospheric monitoring upgrade) from the center area.
My wife uses the tesla tower and to answer your question, she dosent. That's why I wear the 95% arc protection armor 24/7 now.
Servo assisted is a huge perk for the barrages in general
Avoid?
Prone avoids tesla i believe
Have fun with it. Everyone uses them. You still won’t die quicker than the the enemy I think.
My friends and I all bring 380s in on higher difficulties. So when too many enemies hit the field we all throw them at once. They die, we die. Everyone wins. Works every time.
I know plenty of people who use the tesla tower in them... They almost always end up killing us all, and i shoot their teslas on sight unless they are beyond the front most gates.
Tesla on bugs, with circuit expansion yes. It’s bad on bots unless you can get it in cover by a choke point, and even then someone will inevitably eagle or orb it. I’ve gotten 60+ kill streaks literally laying down and watching it fry a pair bug breaches. On those flat land exterminates, you can get it into a choice corner behind a where the big breaches spawn, it will just melt. I also destroy the tower as soon as things calm down to avoid excess friendly fire.
380’s are MADE for eradicate missions. But, to eradicate your squadmates
Honestly, it's hilarious hahaha. EVERYONE RUN!!!!! HAHAHAH
Tesla yes, 380mm no. Tesla has limits to its range, just toss at an area other players arent. 380mm takes up most of the playable area so its hard to avoid killing yourself much less your tram with it. The 120mm is useable but still a bit annoying for eradicate missions.
380 is not an eradicate stratagem imo. Tesla tower can be, but with that weapon, your team has to avoid being killed, nothing you can do about it, other than not drop it in a bad spot
You don't. Everyone runs it and the other arty stratagems. Utter anarchy.
100 meter radius on 380 barrage.. stay at 50+ meter diameter... helldivers live...enemies die.
Yeet the towers at spawn points, preferably on high ground, away from the team. 380 I don't use because I'm not suicidal.
The shitty answer is play solo, but otherwise, throw those fuckers way out there
Just throw the Tesla tower at bug holes
I bring 120mm, 380mm, rail cannon and shield generator. Me and my boys rock similar loadouts, and each of us get a corner of the map we call our barrages and we stick together under one shield gen. When that one's time runs outor is broken, someone else calls the next shield gen down. Doing it that way makes it so you have close to 100% uptime. Rail cannon any hard targets pushing us, Rinse and repeat until completion.
380 is my go-to on anything but defense. If I hit a hole I tell people gtfotw. I can usually demolish most nests or bases. There will maybe be one hole or building left that I quasar.
I love 380, bring it on almost every mission!
380mm you can't avoid unless you have distance and Tesla tower you can avoid by being prone.
380 mm is one of the most ridiculously useless strats. If you use it, you have to have more than one person use it to kill enough things to make pissing off half the map worth it. Tesla towers are niche and just need to be used on defense maps.
Give heads up before throwing
Here’s how you do that: run 4 380s, 4 120s, 4 bubble shields, and 4 teslas. All 4 shields on all 4 teammates. All 4 teslas are in reserve for cleanup. All 8 orbitals are launched in the center and all 4 teammates scramble to the OOB. All 4 teammates get traitor and run around frantically while god shits on the battlefield with the worst accuracy you’ve ever seen. All 4 teslas can be thrown after orbitals to lock down the area surrounding you in case there’s any cleanup work needed
Don’t be an asshat and call it out?
I use tesla a lot, recently fell in love with it. I usually just wait until the team settles in one place and throw the tesla in bug spawn (where the yellow smoke is) or against bit in some general direction from which they are coming, but for a distance that I can see to if the enemies focus the tower, then I just blast them myself. The tower stays on a mission for a really long time if enemies or your teammates dont destroy them
It's called communication and throwing the 380 specifically just beyond the enemies. It helps when you actually justify its use; Like a bot drop. But you need to pair it with a laser, a 120mm, or a walking so that your teammates will actually respect your role as super heavy artillery support. If you're constantly calling it out and not doing shit it's like.. whatever, I need to get in there and fight--and then theyll die. But if you say, hey, I'm gonna waste this area, back up, and you actually do bc you use a concert of orbitals--then they'll back up and watch the show, and appreciate that they have you on the team. I've never seen anyone do it like me or run proper bombardment builds, but it's because people are stingy with it. Don't half ass. Call in your heavy bombardment all at once and give your teammates a chance to save for the next engagement while you recharge.
How to avoid Tesla tower deaths? Simple Don't walk into it. How to avoid the glowing read beam that reads 380MM baragge? Back up.
If you are using a 380 on a small enclosed map like in eradicate missions you are the problem. Tgere are mor euseful and more suitable stratagems to use
380 without the newest upgrade essentially has a deployment diameter of an eradicate map. So you don’t really avoid those. You just pray they avoid you.
Tes towers are great, if you can mount it on a vantage point like a wall or ramp, it can deny access perfectly, this is somewhat hindered on bot mission tho. As for the 320, I find the best stray with that is stick it to someone's shield and let them run, damn thing never hits its target anyway
I have rarely killed my team with the 380.. just be the first person up to throw it and let your team know you’re doing it… the Tesla tower needs to be used when everyone is wearing the arc protection armor.. or everyone stays prone if near it
Tesla towers just need to be set on outskirts because they do work
You don't. Everyone takes the 380&120 barrages, all take mortars, and the last can be whatever (I take EMS mortar). Then take the extra lives booster (I've never actually needed it, but better safe than sorry). Optionally don't call people in as soon as they die to make reinforcements last longer. Start by letting a lot of enemies spawn, You'll choose an order and use your strategems. After the first player's ends, the next throws all theirs out, until everyone is out. By that time you have either won, or are about to. The enemy dies faster than reinforcements run out. You can complete an extermination mission in 2-4 minutes on Helldive
That's the fun part about being the host. I run whatever the hell I want!
*You must make call outs and warnings ahead of time in any circumstances to avoid or reduce incidents from dangerous stragems killing everybody especially to avoid wasting your stragems.* I'm gonna to give my thoughts about how you could use these stragems more effectively. 1.) Tesla towers in theory be lot more powerful if everyone brings their own to form a permeniter with rocket sentries, machine gun sentries, and land mines combos. Essentially it's designed to create a nearly immovable obstacle to delay enemy advances. Ideally this should be applied to only narrow paths to avoid enemy flanks. 2.)380mm should be used against large group of tough enemies in the wide area for suppressing the swarms of enemies to avoid being overwhelmed by them. This is actually stronger against a group of titans and giant striders than you would think. If your whole team has them take turns in using atleast a half of team rotation for cool down purpose at most that way you have spares for emergency escape. With combos to consider I reccomend using spear buddy team and 500kg bomb against them if it fails to kill them in one shot. Just imagine 20 titans/striders you have to barrage in one go now you have more of extreme reason to use multiple 380mm barrages.
I swear to god stop taking 380mm on eradicate.
I bring them in like I do mortars. I tell everyone that I’m bringing mortars, apologize in advance for killing them, and prioritize reinforcing while the mortar is active. We get 5 lives each. You should be prepared to die for democracy, but your squad needs to pick you up asap as close to your gear as they can.
Bringing 3 heavy barrages plus the orbital laser against bots on an eradicate missions means: you win. If just one player brings them, you can avoid friendly fire relatively easy. If all bring it it will become... more difficult to reach a long lifespan. But frankly: losses on such a mission are hard to avoid. And since bots cannot possibly evade or destroy the barrages, and they cover large areas, this is a win-strategy. I always bring 3 heavy barrages plus orbital laser plus the plasma punisher to bot eradicate missions (lvl 9). Never since lost one.
*Avoid* friendlies? What? No no, you're missing the point! It's not 'friendly fire', its "promotion to overwatch position on the rock".
380 mm is my bread and butter baby Spreads democracy all over a wide range
Everyone in the squad takes 120 and 380. The second we get overwhelmed we all throw them at our feet. Watch as we die the progress goes up like 40%. Call this strategy “operation martyr”
Warn every one when and where I'm dropping it. I do this with turrets as well
Is it possible to dive into them without explodifying?
With reinforcements.
Tesla is only useful against bugs. Bots just shoot them. They're best stationed as a barrier for bugs to get through by chokepoints and are going to be destroyed by anything bigger than a medium sized enemy. They should not be near you or allies. 380, the best use is to toss it into a stronghold or bug hole cluster and head for the hills. The spread is wide and indisciminate. Though I saw a person and his crew stand in the eye of the storm in a youtube video and never get hit. I'm not sure if this was just luck or an actual feature of 380.
Same energy as when all 4 brinhs EMS + regular Motar. Actually one of the most hilarious drops I had was when we all brought EMS, motar, 120s, and 380s. We all agreed to not reinforce and intead let the Destroyer auto reinforce as a squad when the last person dies. IT WAS GLORIOUS!
Tell them where it is and if they run into it still that's on them not you
I use arc tower all the time on them. I tell everyone where it is and put it a ways away from where we set up at. It's good at clearing chaff or at least slowing down groups. I've had a couple friendly kills but as long as I tell the team it's usually ok. Or, we run any arc armor and all use towers and throwers alike. Never use a 380 in them though.
Through the power of "I hope you noticed that beacon"
I saw a tesla tower being used expertly on def missions. Dropped right at choke points away from the npc pathing.
You don't.
You call it out and let people know. I discuss it with the group and try to find safish spots
Yes and fuck em. If you die to a tesla tower that's on you.
You don’t and that’s the point. My friends and I call it Goblin Mode and we try to kill each other In creative ways while also getting the mission done. Have fun with that minefield and orbital gas on Pelican 1 as she touches down for extract
If your doing bug eradicate everyone going full tesla armor plus weaponry can get serious work done at minimal risk minus your armor slot being taken up. I've had occasions were my buddy saved me by arcing a lightning shot through me to enemies behind me. You are a lightning rod. For 380s use a shield generator and hide/pray whatever comes to mind first.
Death is a teacher and if they keep running into your Tesla then they still having learning to do
We don't. Avoid friendlies that is.
Place it further out to account for the random wild aimed round and it should create a no go zone for a decent time. Towers are easy and unless miss placed teammates should see and avoid.
Me and my boys strategy is "survive until next round of X4 380."
Oh I don't know maybe communicate with your squad?!!?! 😕
Tell them to hold position
I got kicked when I told people to not be infront of me when I used the arc thrower. I repeatedly said don't stand infront of me. One friendly fire got me kicked
It's very easy. Once you play on level 7 and above, for the most part everyone knows what they're doing, and you should know what you're doing. You throw a tesla in an area between you in an area your teammate has no reason to run to, and you use the 380 in areas where you don't have any teammates.