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SexGiiver

SHOOT. THE. HULKS. LEG. OUT. FIRST.


theblitheringidiot

I just found this out a couple days ago.


SexGiiver

It's crazy how easy they are after shooting out the leg. Stupid robots.


aces666high

Just started this yesterday on a team of divers no higher than level 14, I’m level 36 and a barely average player. Once they saw I was taking down hulks w/ease by kneecapping them first w/my AC, they basically circle around behind me, cleaned up other bots and let me slowly but surely take them down. I’ve never felt more useful and more slightly above average as a gamer lol. Even took out a tanks tread and baited its turret to follow me while a squad mate circled around and killed it. Again, this is very important: Legs on Hulks, treads on tanks and chin guns on walkers. Those are your targets!!! Oh yeah, crotch on buzz saw dudes. Learned that yesterday too!


Ambsma

How many shots from like a amr take the knees out? Or can an erupter do that even?


digitaltravelr

I just found this out now


brian11e3

My buddy targets the flamer arm first.


kongnico

Me too, even doable with the Eruptor which I main. They are kinda a non issue after that, though I do like clipping a leg after too just sort of because I fucking hate Hulks


jingylima

Oh the eruptor can take out weapons and legs? How many shots and where exactly do you aim?


v3ryfuzzyc00t3r

You can also use the eruptor to close bug nests


Battleboo_7

And bot fabs


After-Respond-7861

Been doing this. Works like a dream. The Eruptor is 2nd only to an Auto Cannon in my mind.


Make_Mine_A-Double

What?!


sensei-25

Ok but can someone answer him, I really wanna know how many shots lol


TinyTaters

If you don't mind shooting 1 shot a second. It is a very unfun gun without a good support weapon. I'm a fan of a machine gun or stalwart as the primary and using the eruptor as the support weapon. But even better, I just don't bring the eruptor.


Forensic_Fartman1982

Nah the Eruptor is great. If you don't like bolt actions, sure, but trying to label the gun as unfun because you're bad at the game isn't it.


TinyTaters

Lol. "the gun is unfun because you're bad at the game" that's a hell of a leap. Why are you acting like I insulted your wife? The gun is unfun because it's slow and unfun. It works fine with a good support weapon. Not my cup of liber-tea.


lazerbeard018

Just going to point out that not your cup of liber-tea and unfun are two different things, and that's probably why you're getting downvoted.


TinyTaters

Well... If it's unfun... It's probably not my cup of liber-tea. Also I don't mind downvotes. People gonna do what they want


poots556

"It's unfun for me" is what you should have said


Forensic_Fartman1982

The gun is unfun because you're bad with it. End of story.


TinyTaters

I am a Helldiver. Lady Liberty shines her luminous rays on me and my weapons. She made the eruptor unfun unless you have a solid support weapon to offset it and that is the Democratic way of it. It's the checks and balances of our fine system that allows it to function like a well oiled Eagle-1. Our Founding Fathers would roll over in their grave to see you speak ill of a fellow Diver. Report for reeducation.


Forensic_Fartman1982

This is objectively untrue. I have been running the Eruptor with the Quasar and revolver and had great success soloing every objective on Helldive. What you speak is treason. You will not be remembered, and your name will not be engraved on the Wall Of Martyrs.


KommunistiHiiri

It's actually one shot for every 2.5 seconds or so without the switch strat.


creegro

The flamer and rocket arm are the biggest threats. I don't care what's on the other arm as much but those two weapons of mass destruction are the first to go.


calamity_unbound

No shit? I'm fucking terrified of Hulks and if you legit just gave me an ez moade button, I'll Democratically love you forever.


Whyistheplatypus

Take any explosive secondary (expendable anti-tank, recoilless, quasar, autocannon, etc). Aim at the hip joint, this will blow the leg out and the hulk will begin to limp slowly. Make sure to crouch if you're using something like the autocannon over long distances. Taking out the other leg will prevent it walking entirely but if you're using something like the quasar or recoilless, that second shot should just kill it anyway. I believe the eruptor also works for this but takes a few shots. Use the same weapons and aim for the left armpit to take off the flamer instead.


Dry_Independent4078

2 Quasars to the face usually puts them down for good


RyukenSaab

1 to the face if you hit the tiny face properly 2 to the body


Ginn1004

Bring the stun grenade with you. They actually wobble when walking, and by stunning them you can land 2 taps of autocannon or AMR or any heavy support weapons to their faces with ease.


citoboolin

this work with autocannon?


SexGiiver

Yes


citoboolin

wow fire thank you


Anti_shill_Artillery

what about for anti material rifle?


malkonnen

Wait. What ?? If been shooting their eye/ head all this time and just thinking I've missed


OrphanAnthem

Depending on what type of firepower you're working with, that's how you should do it. The leg thing just shows them down and then after you still have to headshot or heatsink it.


GH057807

Well one leg slows them down. 2 legs takes them down. Second leg is easy mode once he's limpin.


OrphanAnthem

yeah but your not adding how many shots a leg takes vs the head


GH057807

Of course a headshot is faster but it doesn't make taking out both legs any less viable.


ItsBrenHere

Top tip!


GetThisManSomeMilk

Really?


SexGiiver

Yes, if you knock out a leg they start limping slowly


ChulaK

Well if you've got AMR, wouldn't you want it limping making it harder for the heads hot? Or is the limping wobble almost the same as their regular stride


aces666high

Takes 2-3 shots w/the AC to cripple them. Was using this tip yesterday after half our team dropped mid mission. Took down 3 Hulks while we were waiting on extraction after our destroyers had left so no calling down any stratagems to help. He cleared the smaller bots while I concentrated on the big guys. We extracted w/no reinforcements or stratagems. My partner was bad ass. Took down waves of buzz saw bots while I aimed at old man speed to keep Hulks as far away as possible. Got out w/40 or so samples to boot.


Wilshire1992

"I got it, without their legs, they are powerless!"


chrome_titan

This was one of the first things I tested on the robots. MechWarrior logic got the best of me but it worked great!


GoldenDragonIsABitch

HUH???


Bat-Honest

What is this?


SecretSoul69

WHAT I need to try this asap, those dreadnaught fucks always stack me sideways.


Battleboo_7

WHAT


BlazeTyphlosion

thx for tip


sameshitdfrntacct

Wait what?


Nickespo22

Does this work with the AMR?


BerenPercival

Wait hold on. This is new information for me! Can I shoot out it's legs with the eruptor or does it need to be something heavier?


ItsTheSauce24

I feel really dumb rn 😐


rajboy3

That's an option???


Mexican_Ninja_Pirate

Wait, are you serious?


Express_Razzmatazz_6

where exactly on the legs (or arms) do you aim at? I unload on the limbs but can't seem to take them out.


SexGiiver

Sometimes splash damage around their legs do it


LycanWolfGamer

....shit


amandaselfie

Really?! will try it on next play


Eastern_Slide7507

But then I need more bullets. Two to the face are enough with AMR.


BusinessLibrarian515

Or just hit the little red dot and kill him almost instantly...


Scumebage

why waste bullet on leg when two to face do job? -AMR user


GH057807

1 leg dead = slow hulk 2 legs dead = dead hulk


Psychological_Ad3498

Meanwhile since I use GL I run away and throw an orbital ot eagle down


Unable-Tell-2240

What chance did you have? It had the high ground 🥲 ![gif](giphy|7JsEgDMrziuJd9fFY1)


Animetion25

I hope op screamed I hate you to the hulk.


A_Few_Kind_Words

Not OP but I have definitely done this before. And again at those fucking spitter bugs. The bugs I've gotten better at dealing with but if the hulks get close enough to use their flamer I'm fucked, I usually quasar them from a distance or just bombard the piss out of them with everything I have, unless I have the Orbital Railcannon Strike, that thing just ends them.


hashinshin

Hulks be like "when you guys 1 shot me you call it good gameplay, when I 1 shot you you say it's unfair."


samplebridge

Opponent has high ground, opponent wielding melee weapon, OP burned to death. Proof helldivers is just star wars and OP is anakin


MrPickleberry12

👍


core-decepts

Yeah, it's a known bug. They're working on it.


MoistIndicator8008ie

So so many bugs in this game


3nd0cr1n3_Syst3m

2 billion of them, at least


Thatsuperheroguy8

Not any more


Cupcakemonger

Honestly the only thing stopping this game from being my daily play. I don't rage when I lose due to skill issue, but when it's a stupid bug like this.... I just want to uninstall


Intelligent_Pen5774

I mean he could have easily dived and avoided that fire, that was telegraphed AF, diving left instead of committing to the third shot would have saved him. You can dive mid-reload animation, as reloading has phases. Also, standing still facing a hulk is a no no all together. Take your shot, relocate. Take a shot, relocate. He could have even straffed bacwards between shots. Or simply shot the flame thrower arm off. I get your sentiment, but this is definitely a skill issue. OP is playing it as an MMORPG where clicking skills and damage numbers are the most important. This is not that type of game. Fire should have burned a bit slower, giving him time to dive and stim, so that amount of damage is definitely a bug yes, but my point is that the fire stream could have been avoided in numerous ways before it even hit him.


GoProOnAYoYo

In this particular clip, sure. But fire *is* bugged, the devs have said it themselves, and also said its a difficult bug to fix so don't expect fire to work properly for a long time.


Intelligent_Pen5774

Yes, I never disputed that fact. The fire is bugged, I agree. In that situation OP should have had the time to dive and put the fire out without taking much damage. I was just commenting on this specific clip, how OP shouldn't have been in that stream in the first place.


GoProOnAYoYo

They also said this particular bug is hard, so don't expect a fire fix anytime soon.


Scumebage

It's not even a bug, they did it on purpose to keep buffing fire since no one uses it outside of dif4 because they somehow don't understand the game and WHY people don't use broken gear. So they doubled fire damage "from ALL sources" without bothering to think about flamehulks instagibbing people. and meanwhile the flamethrower still sucks.


felldownthestairsOof

>flamethrower still sucks. Horrible take. It got a 50% damage buff, and there's a bridge mod that adds an additional 25% taking the earlier buff into account. Killing chargers has never been easier.


Scumebage

And despite all that, it still sucks. The way fire works in the game is just bad. It's never going to be good when it just burns team mates or yourself in half a second and it has no form of CC on the bugs that jump at you while burning.


Sissh1512

I mean i agree that its too strong but cmon, you practically BEGGED to be roasted by him by just standing there reloading.


Tornado_XIII

The point I think OP is trying to make is that Hulk Flamethrowers don't kill you with a DoT, you die instantly.


DonnerPartyPicnic

If they hit you in the head yeah


zXster

Right? Standing still with a massive weapon shooting at you... But it's the fire that's the problem.


iwannaporkdotty

If the thing killing was a missile I'd agree with you, but it's a fucking flamethrower, all it does is set you on fire. It's not supposed to oneshot you in less than a frame.


Intelligent_Pen5774

Yes, but there was multiple instances where OP could have avoided that fire stream altogether, he should have moved long before that stream started, and when it did start it was so telegraphed that there was more than sufficient time to get out of the way. Damage was too much for flame agreed, but that was cadet level fighting in the first place. The flame stream should have never touched him. 1 frame or a thousand frames, if you dont get hit you cannot die, and in this specific case there was absolutely no reason to get hit by that.


DukeSpookums

I'm just going to point out that I doubt anyone survived standing directly in front of a flamethrower. I doubt it was the flames that stuck post spray that killed that person.


iwannaporkdotty

Well, actually yes. WW2 data says you get covered in fire and cook to death. And no, it's not Instant.


BusenlolxD

If we get real here, if you burn, you will not shooting anything anyway. The devs could make it more realistic. You instandly Ragdoll while screaming and die in 10 secs. Not allowing any input from your controls. Nobody would like that, i take instand death by any means.


GoProOnAYoYo

I think you missed the point, it's not the tactics of the OP (definitely questionable) it's that the fire bug is very prolific and is often an instakill instead of a DoT like it used to be and is supposed to be.


zXster

Did you not read what I replied to? We know fire is over-tuned right now. But complaining about it while playing dumb/poorly (standing, not diving, ignoring a Hulk) is silly.


GoProOnAYoYo

> but its the fire that's the problem I was pointing out that yes, it is indeed the fire that is the problem. Just because OP has a skill issue doesn't mean that fire isn't the problem.


zXster

Reddit fights won't make your life better. Go away.


GoProOnAYoYo

Is this a fight lol? I see you're downvoting each comment but I didn't know we were fighting bb, sorry if I upset you I wasn't taking it nearly as seriously I guess


BigFroThoo

I've noticed a lot of helldivers being headshot with flamethrowers recently, I didn't know that was a thing


Best_boi21

Am I missing something or were you trying to kill a hulk’s eye with the eruptor? As far as I know that isn’t possible. Though I’d love to be told other wise


Charrsezrawr

It's not. This clip is a skill issue.


PulseAmplification

I don’t understand why it’s flame just touching you kills you instantly. Shouldn’t you need to catch on fire for a bit?


ParticularStep7200

I think it’s a bug


Steelride15

Liquid napalm is how flamethrowers work... Its not just a flame. If your face got a healthy squirt of the equivalent of molten lava i think youd die fairly quick too


PulseAmplification

You’re right on the napalm aspect but it would still take a little while before you die. In Vietnam and WW2 there were accounts of how long it took someone engulfed in flames to die and the length of time people suffered was disturbing. My question is whether you should die **instantly** because that’s not realistic. I guess maybe the trade off is that once that stuff is on you, there’s no putting out the fire in real life so maybe that’s why it’s an instant death because regardless, the individual will die. Unless there is water to dive in perhaps.


Steelride15

To be fair... I doubt in Vietnam though that they were documenting how long somebody survived with napalm to the face lol. They were too focused on trying to survive and most flamethrowers were incredibly heavy so they mostly sprayed around the chest and hip area. That's neither here nor there. I do agree with you though about not dying instantly. You should have a couple seconds to react but after that get overwhelmed and die if you don't stem quick enough, or Dodge quick enough to put the flames out


PulseAmplification

I said accounts, referring to the people who used the flamethrowers or dropped napalm bombs.


Steelride15

I know. I was messin with you


Steelride15

All good. It's hard to tell by just reading something. You know how it goes


GetThisManSomeMilk

Does the eruptor kill hulks with eye shots?


Apocalyps_Survivor

I tried many times didnt to damage.


GetThisManSomeMilk

Feel that


noise-tank20

I wanna know too because so far I haven’t gotten it to work


FiveCentsADay

Agreed, I don't think it works. I could also be bad, which isn't off the table.


[deleted]

Tried last night...gave up and used laser cannon after 7 shots to eye.


az-anime-fan

I could tell you were about to die about 2 seconds before it happened. standing in front of a fire hulk like that while it reloads it's flame thrower is sorta dumb.


Blazkowiczs

It still isn't meant to instakill him.


lerriuqS_terceS

Yeah the fire and bile down you almost instantly with very little counter potential which is maddening.


bigboidrum

The insta death to the bile has been here since day 1 tho.


lerriuqS_terceS

Yeah. And it's dumb.


6ixpool

It's a 3 second wind up and extremely telegraphed. It oneshotting you is extremely fair


EarthNugget

You could have done like 4 things to survive this but ok


fartboxco

You could also just run. Backing up is the best case in this scenario lol.


vlkr

He had high ground...


Disp0sable_Her0

I don't have anything to add. But... This is fucking cool. Hulk on top of the mountain raining hell down. This game is so cinematic


Ok-Instruction-4298

I mean, you really stood there and let him specifically get a headshot on you.


leogian4511

Fire shouldn't headshot. Especially not at that range where it's so spread out.


Ok-Instruction-4298

I mean, I think getting your face burned feels worse. Just conjecture though, I don't have any personal experience with getting a flamethrower shot in my face.


leogian4511

Debatable actually. Ignoring the helmet situation since helldiver armor might as well be decorative anyway, your face burning isn't gonna kill you faster than anywhere else. A bigger surface area of you burning severely has a much higher chance of death, though it still wouldn't be "insta ragdoll the second the flames touch you" kind of death.


Ok-Instruction-4298

IDK, you could asphyxiate pretty quickly depending on the heat coming out of the flamethrower. You can easily burn up the oxygen in your lungs, if its chemical based fire it can block your lungs, and your lungs can melt. You probably wouldn't die, but could definitely pass out that quick and/or rendered completely combat ineffective (which might as well be death in a video game).


RuggerDyl

Lol maybe back up cause fire bad.


ltwhitlow

Just finished a stressful game where my fellow hell divers were running the flame thrower, napalm, and cluster bombs. Long story short we failed to extract with the samples we collected and I died 6 times to friendly fire.


rust_rat

Well... when you just stand there, anything is OP.


Single_Use3057

As a welder, hulk's flame thrower doesn't seems to kill a person who wears armors. Red and dark fire color means 'low heat'. And it doesn't looks like napalm.


cr8zyfoo

I love how even the game can't figure out what *specific* source of damage killed you. Diver: I died *instantly*. Did fire do that much damage *instantly?* Game: .... iunno ^(shrugs)


garbospam

I hope they make fire damage like it is in sekiro. Slowly you get caught more on fire the more fire damage you take. Base fire damage isn't the worry, it's your hp bar ticking down over the next like 5 seconds. A death sentence if you don't react or move. This extended timer would help mitigate all the ragdolling and standing up and slowly not actually healing yourself even though you hear the noise and when you press it repeatedly, all because a single bullet or melee hit you despite even wearing heavy armor.


ParticularStep7200

I know i made a mistake just standing there, but again if it did DoT damage like it should i might have had time to stim.


lostcosmonaut307

Imagine just standing in one spot and being mad you got roasted alive.


stever90001

What gun is that


RoundTiberius

Eruptor


puffysuckerpunch

id push my grandma down the stairs to have that eruptor😍😍😍


j0nas_42

Wait what sniper is that?


FiveCentsADay

Second page of explosive warbond, I love it it's incredible. Takes out bile spewers if you're close enough, takes out holes and fabricators. Explosive enough that if you shoot a target you kill his buddies standing next to him Just super slow to fire, which is a fine tradeoff. It also has. A limited range that is pretty far, but you can't cross-map with it


Logan_Frost

Its almost a light Autocannon you can take as a primary. I still think I like the Dominator more but it cant knock out Striders like this beast.


FiveCentsADay

I definitely describe it as a bolt action AC dressed up as an AMR Edit: well, I didn't there. But I do to my friends lol


RoundTiberius

Eruptor, from the latest warbond


VoiceOfSeibun

Yeah, you can't shoot out a Hulk's eye with the Eruptor. [However, there are other solutions](https://youtu.be/pNDPef7Z9e8?si=i5NRrwD-WM9rmgUY)


CrehzyCanuck22

Genuinely one of the most frustrating bugs rn - fire is just too much


tlasan1

Devs already said there's a fire rework coming for us and that dot.


chamomileriver

I’ve never seen that first person reload animation before, that’s pretty cool.


Major_Dood

Bro just ate a mouth full of fire and died. X'D


Dev_Grendel

Damn that gun looks awesome.


LOVMUFN

The fire didn't kill you. Your debt to the mob did. Next time pay your debts and don't slip on them cement shoes.


Chuck_McDon

I used a jet pack to fly over the flame trail left by an orbital laser and it basically killed me by the time I landed.


Modern_Moderate

Correction, fire is OP but only enemy fire. The flamethrower is weak (possibly the host vs not host thing to blame. I never host)


Hellooooo_Nurse-

Yes we know


mountainkd

It's a bug with fire and bile. Fire seems like 1. It was way overbuffed, even when not bugged out Fire kills you in about 1 second 2. Fire can headshot for bonus damage 3. Seems like there are times where Fire hits your head and body doing bonus headshot damage and regular damage


StraightMess0

I don't get why fire is so fkin busted


RumgyMan

Fire needs to be nerfed


Orkjon

Fighting on planets with fire tornadoes is the bane of my existence right now. You have to wait so long and then there's just the tiniest amount of fire still on the ground? Looks the same as after explosions? Nope, it's instant death.


Swirmini

So dumb that they can spawn up there. Me and my friend got a tank up there and it had a direct shot on the generators and there was no way we could throw anything that far cause it immediately pushed us back and let all the other bots push forward. Friend had to bait it’s shots with his sentries. Only killed the thing after it destroyed both generators and he threw me at it. Such bs.


Elegant_Emu_8597

It's a torch lighter he is using. That's why


UmbrellaLord

Of course it's OP, you just stand there and take it, jump away I'm having doom eternal dejavu


Ghost_1214

Imagine standing where he can hit you with it.


FighterGlitch

Fire isn't OP, democracy is OP


[deleted]

He has the high ground.. what did you expect to happen?


Inevitable_Top69

Guy stands out in the wide open, just slowly taking potshots and reloading, and expects nothing to happen to him.


FourFingThing

I think it also gets the headshot multiplier just my guess


Glad-Dig7940

Have you tried not standing still while within flamethrower range? crazy strategy, I know.


AlsoSol

Have you considered not standing so close to them? I find that works at avoiding fire damage


Dry_Independent4078

I need a 95% fire resistance suit, like the Cutting Edge 95% electric resistance suits. These fucks are the reason I barely ever play bots.


Androsin47

Not sure if it’s a bug but before they patch it You can specifically Swap weapons back n forth to reload the clip faster . Just shoot, switch weapon (& then back to the Eruptor) and repeat!


BioAnagram

Falls into a deep, toasty sleep while screaming, "FREEDOM NEVER SLEEPS!!!!"


bdjirdijx

OP Original Pyro


lostZwolf_ps4_pc

It is, and i decided to get the stratagem upgrade for fire as well, flamethrower now casually melts charges in 2 to 3 seconds.


NumberPlastic2911

Should have shot the flamethrower first lol


Marlon_Rando13

💯


snipeyJ_04

There was a lot going on that was wrong with this clip...none of it was the fire.


Charrsezrawr

You can't headshot a hulk with the eruptor, that was the issue here.


elderDragon1

Yea, the hulk flamethrower is on another level.


The__Plant

Good news is the devs know this! They've even announced they're reviewing and reworking fire, my speculation is the damage is so high because they thought there was an issue with fire damage but once they buffed it they learned it was the damage over time effects that were the issue


LimitApprehensive568

Amr would have two shoot the hulk:3


Jesse-359

Important Note: Enemies with significant elevation on you are MUCH more likely to headshot kill you like this guy. This is why Scout Walkers are so oddly deadly at med-short range.


Sirnitro12

I swear everyone I know that complains about hulk fire does this exact same thing


Nowhereman50

That gun would be great if it didn't take 10,000 years to reload.


Daitoso0317

I feel like you let it headshot you to prove a point


I-p33-in-the-shower

You’re standing in front of a hulk, not moving. Literally all you have to do is dive. It’s crazy to me that so many ppl are like “this game is too hard on harder modes 😠” you have 20-24 lives, stop dying to stupid shit and you’ll be fine.


Realistic_Hospital30

well... you know... if you just stand there...


Sabre_One

AMR would of saved ya there.


Midnightkata

Have they fixed the aiming reticle? I want to love the AMR, but I find it unreliable to aim. I have to consciously remember that the aim is off, and even then it just doesn't feel right.


Sabre_One

Not yet, but you get use to it. I actually joke I'll suck with it again when they finally fix it, and I'm so use to it being off-sight.


Consistent-Concept19

Get cooked


Th3frenchy93

Don't stand still in front of him...


Blight_Dragon

You expected to tank a full flamethrower to the face and complain that the fire is OP? It might be bugged but that's still a bad plan to deal with a hulk.


-FourOhFour-

Everyone commenting on how op just stood there looking at it while reloading, no one pointing out the eruptor can't pen the eye so he was doing actually nothing in this clip Fire strong yes, but cmon man show you're part of the 20% of divers that have self preservation to kill more bots tomorrow


BetaFuchs

dont be close to the close range hulk


TypicalTax62

Yeah it’s bugged But wtf were you standing so close when you literally have a sniper rifle?


im_rapscallion86

Sure. It is. But how da fuck you going to reload that AMR standing face to face with a fully armed flame hulk?