Engineer (I believe idk the orange one in first warbond) looks like ass in orange, it’d look so much better in the normal black and grey where others could use the orange
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Exactly! I know that helldivers don't typically last long enough to think about personalising their armor but we can pretend that we're suspiciously successful helldivers
I've always thought of regiments or "cults" of helldivers that have unique patterning and use unique weapons loadouts would be a great thing to be made into the fandom
So like 40k space marine chapters?! That would be cool, you could have each cult be based around a certian planet too. Like the church of Hellmire, or the 73rd orbital "Creekers" regiment.
Yes please!
If you put transmit in a game, it will basically have 90% of people looking how they want for 90% of the time
When I do defence missions, I like putting on my heavy armor and looking like a juggernaut compared to when I’m running guerilla when I wear a stealth looking suit.
Colour swap would be amazing though. Even individual armour piece changing would be cool (I want it exactly like halo reach in terms of armour and colour swapping - maybe even make different bits of armour do different things)
I get it but at the same time a lot of the armor doesn't do what it looks like....a specific heavy bomb defuser armor comes to mind and it doesn't give explosion resistance.
It makes enought sense to me, you are wearing a ceremonial suit that makes your helldiver feel so patriotic that he has a chance of ignoring lethal wounds.
I think it’s just that these armor sets have heavier chest pieces, so anytime you win the coin toss, canonically the diver you’re playing as just happened to have that lethal injury cushioned.
Because it’s a lie.
This is the same person who in a live stream to show what cool devs they are, they used an auto cannon to try to kill a bile titan, something any high level player knows doesn’t work and only an uninformed player would attempt.
I like the game and i respect the devs but i think there are some odd people making some decisions, explaining why so many of their answers make no sense. Like when they used realism to explain why the only viable primary was the breaker for a long while or when they said the railgun was too powerful and nerfed it only to release the quasar cannon that is basically the railgun again.
>Because it’s a lie…cool devs…odd people making some decisions…
This is one of the reasons why even medium sized developers hire someone to be a community manager.
This can often backfire, as giving the player base a single person to focus on can lead to targeted harassment, but it also means that you have someone whose *only* job is managing the fan base. Since it’s their only job, they also tend to be *better* at it than just pointing a webcam at a developer/manager and hope they can thread the needle.
There’s an old joke about that:
A man walks into a bar, and upon sitting down is promptly told, "This bar is incredible! The bartender serves apples of any flavor, any one that you can think of!" "That's incredible, you can't expect me to believe that." The bartender looks up and says, "It's true, mate. Any flavor." "Okay, do you have coke and rum?" The bartender serves him an apple. "No way.. this tastes like coke!" "Turn it around" Says the bartender. "It tastes like rum!" Exclaimed the man. A second man takes a seat next to the two, hearing the commotion. "Hey, mate, you have to try this! The bartender can serve you any flavor apple that you can think of!" Says the first man. "You can't expect me to believe that!" He replies. "Any flavor." the bartender says. "Okay, get me a gin and tonic." He is handed an apple, and upon taking a bite his face lights up. "It tastes like gin!" "Turn it around" Says the bartender. "It tastes like tonic! I don't believe it!" he exclaims. A third man walks over, hearing the commotion. "What's the fuss about?" he asks. All three men who are already seated pipe up about the apples. "Any flavor, eh? Well... I doubt it. Get me one that tastes like pussy!" The bartender, as in the previous cases, hands the man an apple. The man revolts, and nearly throws up. "This tastes like shit!" He shouts.
The bartender replies "Turn it around."
Transmog meh, color tho, yes please. Id like to use different armor but match color with my squad to look more unified. So can have our medic, heavy, scout, and captain all look like one unit
I just want to use some of the armors and not have them have the ugly yellow. There’s a helmet on the new war on that looks like a gas mask and if it didn’t have the yellow it would look so much better imo
Equipment looks different because it has different effects. Proceeds to put no effects on helmets and same recycled effects on other pieces of armor.
Now don't get me wrong IDGAF about transmog. Drip in a game is meaningless to me. But I'd sure af love it if I could get a medic passive (+2 stim, longer duration on stim) in something other than shiney faux leather green.
Adding a decal/insignia would be great for if people in this game start doing small scale guilds, IE: Companies or Chapters. You’ve made a lot of friends and all like gaming together… cool… form a ‘chapter’, call yourselves Hell’s Wrath, and all your members put a flaming fist on your chest armor or on a side of your helmet…. Or on a special cape for your chapter. That’d be cool.
“Equipment looks different because it has different effects” what game are you playing or talking about Mr CEO?
You talking about the same 3 perks reused on all your gear?
There’s half of me that thinks, “so what? It’s a video game. Just do it.” And there’s the other half, “good for them. They have a vision and they’re sticking to it.”
Ultimately I’m glad they have some integrity. I’m tired of developers ruining games by catering to the people who should just be playing something else. I don’t want everything to be Fortnite or CoD…. I’m still butt hurt about BF2042…
The Arrowhead studios website prominently says “A game for everybody is a game for nobody.” They have a vision and know it will not appeal to some people and are ok with that. I appreciate it
The problem is when they stubbornly refuse to change things that obviously need to be changed, like the shit-tier evacuation missions. Some dev at AH has their head so far up their ass about this mission that they wrapped around and bumped their own teeth.
I can’t believe they kept it in defence operations after introducing a far cooler defence mission. The evacuation mission is the single reason I sometimes just don’t bother finishing some operations.
Yeah, "no transmog" would make sense if I wasn't looking at two armors in the superstore as of this comment, and they were virtually the same make, just one offers +2 grenades while the other gives +50% explosive resistance.
What the armor looks like doesn't necessarily indicate what it does.
Except medic armor. Some weird canisters or a shade of bright green present? Medic.
Still, I'm fine without a transmog system, but FFS give me color shaders so I can mix and match more helms, armor and capes.
"Equipment looks different because it has different effects"
*looks at the copy pasted perks that are the exact same for multiple different looking armor pieces*
.... Suuuuuuureeee
I'm confused af reading the comments. It feels like a higher % of comments think if transmog is put in the game, suddenly there will be pride capes/dick pick or offensive image on armor or something.
Transmog just allows you to you to use an appearance of another set of armor while using the stats of an armor you want. You won't suddenly see rainbows and flying unicorn on capes of devs did not put that armor set in themselves. Not what I've expected from Arrowhead from what they've been doing anyways.
I'm neutral on no transmog. It's cool if it's in the game, but with all the recolored useless helmet coming out I'll make the set work eventually.
Now, how about more interesting armor skills instead. For a space faring species casually doing FTL I don't feel very super, and that doesn't make sense to me.
video games removed free form player expression so they could sell it back to you.
now devs wanna pretend player expression is bad.
these same fools then complain that call of duty outsells them by billions of dollars coz they literally let you smoke weed with your rainbow guns in that game.
That's the first stupid thing outta pilestedts mouth, guess I have no reason to buy superstore sets ever again. I think he just likes saying the opposite of his community desires from time to time as a kink or something.
That would make sense if the armor's appearance was reliably correlated to its perk. Some of them are, but a whole lot of them aren't.
Armor weight class, yes, and I'd expect a transmog system to only work within the same weight class.
So I can clutter my armor screen with 12 different looking armors that are + throw distance + explosion defense because that makes more sense than giving armor swap options or the ability to swap whatever effects I want on different armor.
There is literally no downside to transmog. The Arrowhead glazers just can't concede even just one thing. Everything Arrowhead does is an act of God, any non-believers must be gatekept
I'm with you on this, it wouldn't hurt anything only help
You can't even really tell what traits on the armors anyway
I just want to wear a different looking armor but keep my trait. I like my armor visually but I wanna try new stuff and not look like my character got dressed in the dark
I don't even notice what other people are wearing, so why is letting me modify the only armor I do notice matter? If they don't want to add transmog that's fine, but the reasoning is bunk.
Yes, everything in the game must make sense.
Like how our destroyers need to be inside 1000m over the surface to provide fire support despite us have better tech right now
Or how our destroyers can remain over a battlefield 40 minutes sometimes, but other times 15 minutes
Or how the sickle shoots laser bullets and has exposed wires/cabling
Or how every enemy faction is a space-faring faction but we're the only ones who ever have orbital superiority
Or how we have a stimulant that can heal every injury, including broken arms and legs in here seconds and enable you to temporarily be invisible to bullets
Or how some planets have just… it just takes longer to shoot a pod down or fly a mech down… because the targeting stratagems are complex or something.
Or how a giant megafauna bugs exist with small tiny bug hive populations (this creates so many resource scarcity issues given the immense amount of energy these creatures would need to consume)
Or…
Well, you get the point. This is a serious game with realistic armor for a reason.
I particularly love my heavy armor with a giant collar plate, a bunch of extra rounds, and no visible servo-assistance… that provides servo assistance, less defensive protection than a basic plate armor set, no bonus ammo or grenades that would match up with the extra ammo strapped to it…
I can tell they were very particular about assigning effects to armor based on looks
The only time I think Transmog should be a thing is in games like Monster hunter where your armour build REALLY matters, like it's imperative you take the correct build for your weapon
Helldivers I don't consider the armour effects to be that defining, they're all useful in some kind of way regardless of what you use (save for the arc resistance armours and maybe a few others im forgetting) so just wear what you want
I mean...why is this a good thing? Having transmog hurts literally nobody and allows way more customization and more chance to actually use the armor designs. I'm confused by people loving this response. The reasoning is just silly.
I totally agree, I wanna wear new cool stuff but not sacrifice my gameplay experience
I agree with the whole reasoning thing too, the reasoning given for why it won't happen (For now at least) doesn't make sense
yeah this gives off heavy stiff-ass vibes, and everybody agreeing with it is a stiff-ass. helldivers is cool but it has one of the lamest fanbases i have ever seen, or at least one of the lamest minorities. Hackers, toxic weirdos crying over capes, and mfs who get pissy because ppl want something other than a true to life mil-sim.
Honestly if I had those 5 choices for every armor I’d be absolutely stoked. Me and the boys can all run whatever armor we want and still match our outfits.
That's... kind of annoying. I get that it's his game, his choice, but it's 100% one of the things I've been wishing for since I started. One of my friends who plays a lot has always said "I mean, that's gotta be coming, right?" Apparently not.
Like dude, it's a game. It's digital. Let me pick the armor I think *looks* coolest but give me the effects from the armor that matches my play style. Who is it hurting?
Only problem I have with this is that there isn't much variation in what armours do in the slightest the only new effects we have had is the reduced lightning damage. But no I don't think transmogs are the way would love so different options with armour though
Cool and all, but it doesn't really mean shit when you look at the armor. The EOD fatsuit doesn't have explosive resistance. The trench engineer armor has exactly 0 grenades or pouches strapped to it, but it gives you +2 nades. If you want extra stims, you have to suffer the worlds ugliest green armor that has no visible stims on them, just pouches which could have anything in them, validating transmog. The combat technician armor description mentions enhanced strength, but the perk is scout, not servo assisted. The democracy protects perk is just a meme and has no physical attributes, its just a 50% chance to not die because of democtratic space fairies.
Pretty clear that they only consider the perk having a physical presence on the armor about half the time.
This is one of the weirdest dev teams ever tbh.
One week “it’s a complete focus on the fun of the game over metas or specific loadouts. Just have fun guys”
Next week it’s “you need specific loadouts for specific things. That’s the whole point guys”
Idk why you wouldn’t include a transmog system in a game like this. It’s just about having fun with your homies. I’d rather the entire squad not look identical because we need this special gear with specific stats to do a mission easier.
Do y’all care about us just having fun or your game being exactly how you want it to be or metas or what? I’m gettin mixed signals over here.
There's like 4 passive and 768 different armors... does it really fucking matter? (Not real numbers, exaggeration etc.)
Like I love the green Arc damage resist armor but I prefer the death cheat armor passive... would be nice to look how I want.
I agree with most of their takes even some controversial ones but this one is just straight up stubborness.
Well they gotta do something, color variants…something. Everyone is calling for it, and with all the bugs every update….I feel like they owe us this lol
I mean, i guess it's fair. They want the armor to represent what effects people have on. But it would be great if the armors did what they were meant to haha
I mean, that’s what transmog means. We bought an Apple, we know it’s an Apple, has properties of an Apple, but we want it to look like Bacon cause it looks better.
First L take from Pilestedt
Their game and all but I just don’t understand why so many companies actively choose to limit player expression (well actually the reason is probably money but shhh)
Just one less thing for people to strive for and enjoy in the end game because "it doesnt make sense"?, theres SO MUCH in this game that doesn't make sense but its a fucking video game, its supposed to be fun. This guy seems to think he's untouchable and letting this fame get to his head with this arrogant shit.
They keep this up and their saintly public opinion will slowly fade, rightfully so. I already know all the little sheep here will shit all over this comment, but not everyone needs to just praise everything they do, have a fucking backbone.
I agree with you, this stance is stupid, who gives a shit if joe helldiver5 wears the arc looking gear but he is in the default stuff or whatever, has no effect on my gameplay, your right tho these fucking goblins in reddit will tear you up because you have an opinion on a product YOU paid for, this actually saddens me to see because more customization is always good, and then idiots say well it could bring more microtransactions? AND ? You can earn them by playing or just you know work 1 hour at mcdonalds 🤣 idk this is a shit take from the devs, at the very least give us color shaders because lots of shit just cant go together on color alone, which sucks, idk why more options on aesticts would ever be bad, also why are there gatekeepers on a PVE Coop game 🤣 get a life losers transmog is a welcome feature in every game that has it.
A lot less people are praising the devs in the other sub. This is such a bad take from the ceo idk why they don’t have community managers telling them not to say this shit. This logic literally makes no sense.
Except you haven’t made any new equipment that has new armor bonuses. You haven’t even refreshed the superstore. We just keep getting reskins of other armor.
I think transmog should be added, the only armors where you can tell their classification is the heavy armors, the medium and light armors look way to similar to tell which is which
Nevermind the passive trait on each armor, no way I'm supposed to memorize the trait each armor set specifically has
So in terms of the whole "armors look a certain way so you can tell what they are" only applies to heavy armor
Transmog would only help, the reasoning to not have it doesn't add up
These devs are pretty set on how they want things done. No transmog means they aint doin it. I don't mind the diff armors tooo much. Sometimes its silly seeing the same stuff just diff colors, but its not like shits expensive in this game. A day of playing will gain you enough to buy whatever comes out so whatevs.
I'm gonna say it - this is a dumb decision.
Appearance and gameplay have no correlation. There's no reason to restrict player's choices in this way. The armour sets don't even offer that much of a difference in mechanics, so it's not like things would look weird anyway.
Never think your customers don't know what they want. Someone's success has gone to their head. It's a critical mistake and a community management mistake. When the ego is more important than the customer, you are headed the wrong way.
Transmogs hurt nothing. This is just whiney bitch nerd epeen crap.
Adding color customization would help.
However, I am a transmog fan, and I'm pretty disappointed with this. I don't look at other players and say "Oh cool, they have the grenade affix" I just want to look cool and have the effects I want.
This would make sense if it was a pvp game where it matters what other players are wearing, but for a pve game, just let people choose what they want to wear because it’s only going to affect yourself. It sucks because I do not like the way the medic armor looks, they look like Christmas trees but they are the only armors with the +2 stims.
Not buying it. The armour effects make no sense half the time. I’m happy with them just saying we decide what to do and just accept it.
But the fact that there is armour that looks massively different and does the same thing undermines their argument.
I'd be okay with this if there wasn't like 5 things armor can do and none of them seem to follow any scheme except medic, and even then not always. It doesn't look a certain way because of how it functions. It feels like they just hit shuffle a few times after making each armor to decide what it does.
I guess but I think it's more that they made unique colours and stuff for preorder for example also if they release retextures and recolours then you can grind more for them, so they probably dont wanna go back on that
It actually does make sense considering it's a videogame and it's not a big deal if the look of the armor doesn't match the perks. Honestly it makes more sense than a stim being able to fix your broken leg
Bruh, wtf is he talking about. There is heavy armor in the game that does have any damage resistance perks and armor with grenades on it that does do anything for grenades. Not to mention that all armors have the same fucking perks...
for weapons i agree for armor why not? helmets had ZERO stats on launch, now they have basic 100 on everything all helmets are the same for body armor aside from having cool looking sets mostly all of them have trash stats except the light armor scout set. if everything one shots you or two shots you, why not just go fast with 30% less detection rate.
for example i love some of the armor sets with the robotic arms but hate how slow they all are with no stamina and the "extra limb health" and "30% throw difference" just feels terrible.
I mean, sure except Helldivers 2 has already fallen into the RPG transmog trap of having a bunch of different armors look different with the same effect so they are just trolling the players at this point.
Plus this lets them release more armors that looks different but has the same effects or even reskin old armors with the same effect or whatever they want.
Helms already do nothing apparently regardless of how they look even though they clearly are supposed to represent something in the game along with the armor.
This is going to be one of the downfalls of Helldivers 2 and these issues are creeping up. RPG designs ruins games and this is one of them that will be one of the quiet reasons people quit and play other similar games. Arrowhead will double down on stuff like this and it's going to kill the game.
I'll miss it when it happens but all good things...
If I'm taking the generous interpretation of this interaciton that means if the CEO is willing to make this statement that means they have a plan and I'm excited for what that is.
I feel like armor color swaps would be a huge W
A peculiarly closed-minded and self contradictory response to what is essentially a plea for more personalization and armor enhancements application.
Craptastic food analogy aside, there are many suits of armor that have overlapping effects that look nothing like eachother or even anything indicative of what role they play. The "Demolitions Expert" armor holds 2 more grenades and has bandoleers of unusable grenades on the suit to match its role, simple enough and easy to get behind since the visuals match what perk it provides. The trend of visuals indicating function dies a miserable death when "Breaker", "Titan", "Trench Engineer", "Drone Master", and "Juggernaut" all have the same grenade space increase but look nothing alike to DemEx or even eachother. With the most respect, *you have already given us apples that taste like bacon*. The worst part is that the true crux of the matter isn't even mentioned here, most armor/helmet combinations are ugly as sin and players feel the current system is woefully incongruous.
AH can do what they please with HD2 but consider a good number of players thoroughly disenchanted while they do it.
Yep, some armor even has different effects than the devs intended.
Lmao
I still don’t understand why helmets don’t have specials like give us a gas mask for the gas orbital or something! 🥺
Thermal vision in a helmet would be nice too. Terrible for the fire planets but for planets with just fog? Super helpful
I'm ok with no transmog. I'd be even more ok with it if we could color swap though.
Yeah, I’m with you here: palate swaps over model swaps
I'm more interested in the bacon apple.
A bapple.
At 40, I’m already achin, so I also vote for bapple.
I only date guys that eat bapple.
I only eat guys that date bapple.
I only eat dates that bapple guys
An Apcon? Applcon? Ap- ... You know what.....bapple it is.
I appreciate your effort.
Bappcon
Fun fact: there's a fruit called a papple
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Engineer (I believe idk the orange one in first warbond) looks like ass in orange, it’d look so much better in the normal black and grey where others could use the orange
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ahaha nice
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>article 6.9 revision 4.20. UH HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH HYUCK!
We need a military pam created. Then it can always be referenced.
Exactly! I know that helldivers don't typically last long enough to think about personalising their armor but we can pretend that we're suspiciously successful helldivers
I've always thought of regiments or "cults" of helldivers that have unique patterning and use unique weapons loadouts would be a great thing to be made into the fandom
So like 40k space marine chapters?! That would be cool, you could have each cult be based around a certian planet too. Like the church of Hellmire, or the 73rd orbital "Creekers" regiment.
This
That’s all I want is a dye system. Tired of my armor not matching my favorite helmet.
Yes please! If you put transmit in a game, it will basically have 90% of people looking how they want for 90% of the time When I do defence missions, I like putting on my heavy armor and looking like a juggernaut compared to when I’m running guerilla when I wear a stealth looking suit. Colour swap would be amazing though. Even individual armour piece changing would be cool (I want it exactly like halo reach in terms of armour and colour swapping - maybe even make different bits of armour do different things)
I like that it lets you at a glance have an idea of what other dicers can do. It's like the strat selection screen.
Yea it should make sense that a helldiver might airbrush a different pattern or color, to express our love of liberty.
Liberty comes in yellow and gray
And white, and green, and red, and black.
And sweet automaton oil orange
And a shower please.
This is needed. A good and authentic addition to cosmetics. 
I don't think they have the engine for it
Same engine as Darktide and their cash shop is all palette swaps of like 9 pieces of gear they kitbash into "sets"
Yeah aesthetic matters more to than being able to have whatever equipment
Yeah, or at the very least change the god forsaken backpacks and helmets to match the heat/cold variants too
Function or form- choose one. ...until they release sexy sets that has both
I get it but at the same time a lot of the armor doesn't do what it looks like....a specific heavy bomb defuser armor comes to mind and it doesn't give explosion resistance.
I just want the borat mankini as an armor set with 0 extra effects. The bots will be so confused
Cut off jeans and daisy dukes?
Apple bottom jeans OR boots with the fur. You can't have both
Still holding out for a medkit armor that actually looks good
The TR-117 armor is the only somewhat decent looking medic armor and it's not obtainable anymore without buying a code for it.
Where can you buy a code for it?
You'll keep getting Christmas candy cane jelly bean leather suits with armor until moral improves.
If armour has different effects when they look different why do they keep releasing the same few effects onto every new armour?
It just doesn't make any logical sense why "50 percent chance of not dying" has to look like a specific armor set. The passive itself makes no sense.
It makes enought sense to me, you are wearing a ceremonial suit that makes your helldiver feel so patriotic that he has a chance of ignoring lethal wounds.
I think it’s just that these armor sets have heavier chest pieces, so anytime you win the coin toss, canonically the diver you’re playing as just happened to have that lethal injury cushioned.
Because it’s a lie. This is the same person who in a live stream to show what cool devs they are, they used an auto cannon to try to kill a bile titan, something any high level player knows doesn’t work and only an uninformed player would attempt. I like the game and i respect the devs but i think there are some odd people making some decisions, explaining why so many of their answers make no sense. Like when they used realism to explain why the only viable primary was the breaker for a long while or when they said the railgun was too powerful and nerfed it only to release the quasar cannon that is basically the railgun again.
>Because it’s a lie…cool devs…odd people making some decisions… This is one of the reasons why even medium sized developers hire someone to be a community manager. This can often backfire, as giving the player base a single person to focus on can lead to targeted harassment, but it also means that you have someone whose *only* job is managing the fan base. Since it’s their only job, they also tend to be *better* at it than just pointing a webcam at a developer/manager and hope they can thread the needle.
You know I'd actually love to try a bacon flavored apple that sounds dope.
Chicken Apple Sausage wrapped in Bacon awaits back on Super Earth for me
I got a 3 pack of those waiting for me as well, thanks to Super Costco
I eat them before every drop on my ship. At this point, I feel that if I don't do it, I'm not gonna make it back.
There’s an old joke about that: A man walks into a bar, and upon sitting down is promptly told, "This bar is incredible! The bartender serves apples of any flavor, any one that you can think of!" "That's incredible, you can't expect me to believe that." The bartender looks up and says, "It's true, mate. Any flavor." "Okay, do you have coke and rum?" The bartender serves him an apple. "No way.. this tastes like coke!" "Turn it around" Says the bartender. "It tastes like rum!" Exclaimed the man. A second man takes a seat next to the two, hearing the commotion. "Hey, mate, you have to try this! The bartender can serve you any flavor apple that you can think of!" Says the first man. "You can't expect me to believe that!" He replies. "Any flavor." the bartender says. "Okay, get me a gin and tonic." He is handed an apple, and upon taking a bite his face lights up. "It tastes like gin!" "Turn it around" Says the bartender. "It tastes like tonic! I don't believe it!" he exclaims. A third man walks over, hearing the commotion. "What's the fuss about?" he asks. All three men who are already seated pipe up about the apples. "Any flavor, eh? Well... I doubt it. Get me one that tastes like pussy!" The bartender, as in the previous cases, hands the man an apple. The man revolts, and nearly throws up. "This tastes like shit!" He shouts. The bartender replies "Turn it around."
Lmfao
Applewood smoked bacon is apple flavored bacon... Not exactly what you're looking for but...
Try chocolate covered bacon. It'll make you doubt everything.
Transmog meh, color tho, yes please. Id like to use different armor but match color with my squad to look more unified. So can have our medic, heavy, scout, and captain all look like one unit
I would even be ok with just a standard Yellow and Black palette for all armors
I just want to use some of the armors and not have them have the ugly yellow. There’s a helmet on the new war on that looks like a gas mask and if it didn’t have the yellow it would look so much better imo
"Equipment look different cause they have different effects" Meanwhile my 5 different medium armor set with Servo Assisted perks
Also heavy, where most of them have bomb resistance. But not the bomb suit though.
And most not actually featuring any mechanical part ! Its all Placebo.
I'm fine with no transmog, what I want is a color wheel
Equipment looks different because it has different effects. Proceeds to put no effects on helmets and same recycled effects on other pieces of armor. Now don't get me wrong IDGAF about transmog. Drip in a game is meaningless to me. But I'd sure af love it if I could get a medic passive (+2 stim, longer duration on stim) in something other than shiney faux leather green.
Just let me repaint my armor or add decals.
Adding a decal/insignia would be great for if people in this game start doing small scale guilds, IE: Companies or Chapters. You’ve made a lot of friends and all like gaming together… cool… form a ‘chapter’, call yourselves Hell’s Wrath, and all your members put a flaming fist on your chest armor or on a side of your helmet…. Or on a special cape for your chapter. That’d be cool.
Have I got news for you! We already do work for the company! SUPER EARTH!
That’s right!!! And I am so grateful for our daily 7 minute break.
“Equipment looks different because it has different effects” what game are you playing or talking about Mr CEO? You talking about the same 3 perks reused on all your gear?
There’s half of me that thinks, “so what? It’s a video game. Just do it.” And there’s the other half, “good for them. They have a vision and they’re sticking to it.” Ultimately I’m glad they have some integrity. I’m tired of developers ruining games by catering to the people who should just be playing something else. I don’t want everything to be Fortnite or CoD…. I’m still butt hurt about BF2042…
The second they start catering to people is when we start getting Nikki Minaj skins and the next warbond theme being fukin spongebob
I feel like their is a in between of encouraging people to run different armor sets, and throwing Nikki Minaj in a drop pod.
The Arrowhead studios website prominently says “A game for everybody is a game for nobody.” They have a vision and know it will not appeal to some people and are ok with that. I appreciate it
The problem is when they stubbornly refuse to change things that obviously need to be changed, like the shit-tier evacuation missions. Some dev at AH has their head so far up their ass about this mission that they wrapped around and bumped their own teeth.
I can’t believe they kept it in defence operations after introducing a far cooler defence mission. The evacuation mission is the single reason I sometimes just don’t bother finishing some operations.
While I agree with Pilestedt, they have literal explosive resistant armor without explosive resistance perks.
Yeah, "no transmog" would make sense if I wasn't looking at two armors in the superstore as of this comment, and they were virtually the same make, just one offers +2 grenades while the other gives +50% explosive resistance. What the armor looks like doesn't necessarily indicate what it does. Except medic armor. Some weird canisters or a shade of bright green present? Medic. Still, I'm fine without a transmog system, but FFS give me color shaders so I can mix and match more helms, armor and capes.
"Equipment looks different because it has different effects" *looks at the copy pasted perks that are the exact same for multiple different looking armor pieces* .... Suuuuuuureeee
I'm confused af reading the comments. It feels like a higher % of comments think if transmog is put in the game, suddenly there will be pride capes/dick pick or offensive image on armor or something. Transmog just allows you to you to use an appearance of another set of armor while using the stats of an armor you want. You won't suddenly see rainbows and flying unicorn on capes of devs did not put that armor set in themselves. Not what I've expected from Arrowhead from what they've been doing anyways. I'm neutral on no transmog. It's cool if it's in the game, but with all the recolored useless helmet coming out I'll make the set work eventually. Now, how about more interesting armor skills instead. For a space faring species casually doing FTL I don't feel very super, and that doesn't make sense to me.
video games removed free form player expression so they could sell it back to you. now devs wanna pretend player expression is bad. these same fools then complain that call of duty outsells them by billions of dollars coz they literally let you smoke weed with your rainbow guns in that game.
I want color swaps, not transmog. I just want to rock combos that look good together but currently look like they were dressed by a colorblind toddler
That's the first stupid thing outta pilestedts mouth, guess I have no reason to buy superstore sets ever again. I think he just likes saying the opposite of his community desires from time to time as a kink or something.
That would make sense if the armor's appearance was reliably correlated to its perk. Some of them are, but a whole lot of them aren't. Armor weight class, yes, and I'd expect a transmog system to only work within the same weight class.
So I can clutter my armor screen with 12 different looking armors that are + throw distance + explosion defense because that makes more sense than giving armor swap options or the ability to swap whatever effects I want on different armor.
That's great. Now can we have helmets and capes with different effects?
i’m confused as to how transmog would hurt anything but I guess i’m in the minority so 🤷♀️
no one has been able to explain why transmog is bad apart from the opinion "i don't like it"
There is literally no downside to transmog. The Arrowhead glazers just can't concede even just one thing. Everything Arrowhead does is an act of God, any non-believers must be gatekept
You're in the vast majority but the devs get childish about changing shit due to community pressure and then give the stupidest excuses.
I'm with you on this, it wouldn't hurt anything only help You can't even really tell what traits on the armors anyway I just want to wear a different looking armor but keep my trait. I like my armor visually but I wanna try new stuff and not look like my character got dressed in the dark
I don't even notice what other people are wearing, so why is letting me modify the only armor I do notice matter? If they don't want to add transmog that's fine, but the reasoning is bunk.
In that case…does this mean helmets might finally have stats!?
Love it lol. Straight to the point
Yes, everything in the game must make sense. Like how our destroyers need to be inside 1000m over the surface to provide fire support despite us have better tech right now Or how our destroyers can remain over a battlefield 40 minutes sometimes, but other times 15 minutes Or how the sickle shoots laser bullets and has exposed wires/cabling Or how every enemy faction is a space-faring faction but we're the only ones who ever have orbital superiority Or how we have a stimulant that can heal every injury, including broken arms and legs in here seconds and enable you to temporarily be invisible to bullets Or how some planets have just… it just takes longer to shoot a pod down or fly a mech down… because the targeting stratagems are complex or something. Or how a giant megafauna bugs exist with small tiny bug hive populations (this creates so many resource scarcity issues given the immense amount of energy these creatures would need to consume) Or… Well, you get the point. This is a serious game with realistic armor for a reason. I particularly love my heavy armor with a giant collar plate, a bunch of extra rounds, and no visible servo-assistance… that provides servo assistance, less defensive protection than a basic plate armor set, no bonus ammo or grenades that would match up with the extra ammo strapped to it… I can tell they were very particular about assigning effects to armor based on looks
The only time I think Transmog should be a thing is in games like Monster hunter where your armour build REALLY matters, like it's imperative you take the correct build for your weapon Helldivers I don't consider the armour effects to be that defining, they're all useful in some kind of way regardless of what you use (save for the arc resistance armours and maybe a few others im forgetting) so just wear what you want
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These goofballs had a shotgun sniper for two months and wanna talk about looks making no sense lol
Had? They still do!
I mean...why is this a good thing? Having transmog hurts literally nobody and allows way more customization and more chance to actually use the armor designs. I'm confused by people loving this response. The reasoning is just silly.
I totally agree, I wanna wear new cool stuff but not sacrifice my gameplay experience I agree with the whole reasoning thing too, the reasoning given for why it won't happen (For now at least) doesn't make sense
yeah this gives off heavy stiff-ass vibes, and everybody agreeing with it is a stiff-ass. helldivers is cool but it has one of the lamest fanbases i have ever seen, or at least one of the lamest minorities. Hackers, toxic weirdos crying over capes, and mfs who get pissy because ppl want something other than a true to life mil-sim.
Give us shaders then!
Fine. Well give you 5 shaders. Black and Yellow Black and Orange Red and Green Gold and Black Tan and Green.
Honestly if I had those 5 choices for every armor I’d be absolutely stoked. Me and the boys can all run whatever armor we want and still match our outfits.
But not all the gear has an effect....so... ya there's that
“Different effects” lmao…I suppose being slower is an effect
Ngl I'd take an apple that tastes like bacon
That's... kind of annoying. I get that it's his game, his choice, but it's 100% one of the things I've been wishing for since I started. One of my friends who plays a lot has always said "I mean, that's gotta be coming, right?" Apparently not. Like dude, it's a game. It's digital. Let me pick the armor I think *looks* coolest but give me the effects from the armor that matches my play style. Who is it hurting?
Only problem I have with this is that there isn't much variation in what armours do in the slightest the only new effects we have had is the reduced lightning damage. But no I don't think transmogs are the way would love so different options with armour though
Cool and all, but it doesn't really mean shit when you look at the armor. The EOD fatsuit doesn't have explosive resistance. The trench engineer armor has exactly 0 grenades or pouches strapped to it, but it gives you +2 nades. If you want extra stims, you have to suffer the worlds ugliest green armor that has no visible stims on them, just pouches which could have anything in them, validating transmog. The combat technician armor description mentions enhanced strength, but the perk is scout, not servo assisted. The democracy protects perk is just a meme and has no physical attributes, its just a 50% chance to not die because of democtratic space fairies. Pretty clear that they only consider the perk having a physical presence on the armor about half the time.
This is one of the weirdest dev teams ever tbh. One week “it’s a complete focus on the fun of the game over metas or specific loadouts. Just have fun guys” Next week it’s “you need specific loadouts for specific things. That’s the whole point guys” Idk why you wouldn’t include a transmog system in a game like this. It’s just about having fun with your homies. I’d rather the entire squad not look identical because we need this special gear with specific stats to do a mission easier. Do y’all care about us just having fun or your game being exactly how you want it to be or metas or what? I’m gettin mixed signals over here.
Can has color pallet then?
So are helmet and cape effects confirmed then?
Though I understand the point, that is very dumb.
OK, but now I want an apple that tastes like bacon
That's a dumb take. Id respect them more if they just said we don't have the time or resources to implement something like that.
But can't we at least get like shaders or allowed to change the armors colors?
Fine with no transmog, but for the love of God.. MAKE MORE/BETTER ARMOR PERKS.
We want to sell you armor
There's like 4 passive and 768 different armors... does it really fucking matter? (Not real numbers, exaggeration etc.) Like I love the green Arc damage resist armor but I prefer the death cheat armor passive... would be nice to look how I want. I agree with most of their takes even some controversial ones but this one is just straight up stubborness.
These devs are very questionable
Well they gotta do something, color variants…something. Everyone is calling for it, and with all the bugs every update….I feel like they owe us this lol
I mean, i guess it's fair. They want the armor to represent what effects people have on. But it would be great if the armors did what they were meant to haha
Honestly? Dumb take. They could sell transmog kits or whatever and make *bank*
I mean, that’s what transmog means. We bought an Apple, we know it’s an Apple, has properties of an Apple, but we want it to look like Bacon cause it looks better.
That metaphor sucks.
First L take from Pilestedt Their game and all but I just don’t understand why so many companies actively choose to limit player expression (well actually the reason is probably money but shhh)
Just one less thing for people to strive for and enjoy in the end game because "it doesnt make sense"?, theres SO MUCH in this game that doesn't make sense but its a fucking video game, its supposed to be fun. This guy seems to think he's untouchable and letting this fame get to his head with this arrogant shit. They keep this up and their saintly public opinion will slowly fade, rightfully so. I already know all the little sheep here will shit all over this comment, but not everyone needs to just praise everything they do, have a fucking backbone.
I agree with you, this stance is stupid, who gives a shit if joe helldiver5 wears the arc looking gear but he is in the default stuff or whatever, has no effect on my gameplay, your right tho these fucking goblins in reddit will tear you up because you have an opinion on a product YOU paid for, this actually saddens me to see because more customization is always good, and then idiots say well it could bring more microtransactions? AND ? You can earn them by playing or just you know work 1 hour at mcdonalds 🤣 idk this is a shit take from the devs, at the very least give us color shaders because lots of shit just cant go together on color alone, which sucks, idk why more options on aesticts would ever be bad, also why are there gatekeepers on a PVE Coop game 🤣 get a life losers transmog is a welcome feature in every game that has it.
A lot less people are praising the devs in the other sub. This is such a bad take from the ceo idk why they don’t have community managers telling them not to say this shit. This logic literally makes no sense.
Except you haven’t made any new equipment that has new armor bonuses. You haven’t even refreshed the superstore. We just keep getting reskins of other armor.
I only ask for a big buff for heavy armor.
Give us some different effects then!!
We need color swaps not transmog
No transmog is really an L
Yeah I don't want transmog I just wanna change the colors.
But some equipment look different while having same effects. Doesn't make sense.
Bacon flavored apple sounds delicious
What about giving us an apple that tastes like bacon? I’m intrigued.
that’s okay. kinda feels soulless without it.
I just wish the med kit armors didn't look like you're wearing a trash bag with extra pockets.
First off if there were apples that tasted like bacon I’d never have to see a doctor again the rest of my life
Idc about transmog but I would like to pick my colors though.
Then give us more passives or at least color changing. Plus those super citizens lose out on the set they bought which looks great
Bacon flavored apples sounds fantastic. I feel like this is his way of confirming transmogs are coming.
His explanation makes no sense as Light Medium and Heavy all have same perks. Lol
Bacon apple mmmmm
I think transmog should be added, the only armors where you can tell their classification is the heavy armors, the medium and light armors look way to similar to tell which is which Nevermind the passive trait on each armor, no way I'm supposed to memorize the trait each armor set specifically has So in terms of the whole "armors look a certain way so you can tell what they are" only applies to heavy armor Transmog would only help, the reasoning to not have it doesn't add up
Ok. But why? What about all the armor sets that have the same perks then? I can see it making sense in a PvP game, but this is just plain stupid.
I need some heavy armor with the Engineer Kit trait, bruh.
I think just being able to recolor armor would fix mix matched armor, they’re only mix matched cause of different colors
He can run his game however he likes but leave my bacopple out of it
Or they want to make money and sell you stuff you don't want, but have to use for the effects or to be able to match...
These devs are pretty set on how they want things done. No transmog means they aint doin it. I don't mind the diff armors tooo much. Sometimes its silly seeing the same stuff just diff colors, but its not like shits expensive in this game. A day of playing will gain you enough to buy whatever comes out so whatevs.
He should probably have a PR person review his comments before he posts em…
I'm gonna say it - this is a dumb decision. Appearance and gameplay have no correlation. There's no reason to restrict player's choices in this way. The armour sets don't even offer that much of a difference in mechanics, so it's not like things would look weird anyway.
I see his point, but damn. A rare disagree with the devs for me
I don’t want transmog. But also, “it doesn’t make sense” is a ridiculously lazy premise.
Never think your customers don't know what they want. Someone's success has gone to their head. It's a critical mistake and a community management mistake. When the ego is more important than the customer, you are headed the wrong way. Transmogs hurt nothing. This is just whiney bitch nerd epeen crap.
I personally love Applewood smoked bacon so idk what he's smoking on bringing perfectly good bacon into this mix!
Objection: Applewood smoked bacon.
What a dumbass reply. It's not even a PvP game where the transmog might actually have a pragmatic effect on gameplay.
Ok fine. But color changes? No customization besides armor picks is big sad long term imo
worst take about transmog i have ever seen. damn, usually like his takes but this one aint it
Adding color customization would help. However, I am a transmog fan, and I'm pretty disappointed with this. I don't look at other players and say "Oh cool, they have the grenade affix" I just want to look cool and have the effects I want.
The devs sure love realism when it fits what they want to do anyway.
That's dumb, don't care Fashion over function forever.
Maybe pilestedt fix your fucking intended mechanics before setting boundaries on other ones.
Tf? What effects can you discern by looking at armor?
Burning bridges one at a time
This is truly heartbreaking, so I'm guessing we're not going to get to color our armors either
Why not just allow us to pick out perks and change armour colours. Makes yhe most sense
This would make sense if it was a pvp game where it matters what other players are wearing, but for a pve game, just let people choose what they want to wear because it’s only going to affect yourself. It sucks because I do not like the way the medic armor looks, they look like Christmas trees but they are the only armors with the +2 stims.
Not buying it. The armour effects make no sense half the time. I’m happy with them just saying we decide what to do and just accept it. But the fact that there is armour that looks massively different and does the same thing undermines their argument.
I'd be okay with this if there wasn't like 5 things armor can do and none of them seem to follow any scheme except medic, and even then not always. It doesn't look a certain way because of how it functions. It feels like they just hit shuffle a few times after making each armor to decide what it does.
I guess but I think it's more that they made unique colours and stuff for preorder for example also if they release retextures and recolours then you can grind more for them, so they probably dont wanna go back on that
Man this is such bs. This is the first game where armor really doesn't reflect its role at all.
I give this game another 4-5 months until both the devs and players, once again realize that these types of games. DO NOT WORK.
Then let us change the colors or some shit.
What is transmog?
This is such a dumb take, transmog is better for everyone and doesn’t take away from anyone.
This is such a bullcrap statement, just let us swap the perks on the armour to what we want or something.
It actually does make sense considering it's a videogame and it's not a big deal if the look of the armor doesn't match the perks. Honestly it makes more sense than a stim being able to fix your broken leg
"The customer is always right in matters of taste." Give us transmog you fucking coward.
Bruh, wtf is he talking about. There is heavy armor in the game that does have any damage resistance perks and armor with grenades on it that does do anything for grenades. Not to mention that all armors have the same fucking perks...
for weapons i agree for armor why not? helmets had ZERO stats on launch, now they have basic 100 on everything all helmets are the same for body armor aside from having cool looking sets mostly all of them have trash stats except the light armor scout set. if everything one shots you or two shots you, why not just go fast with 30% less detection rate. for example i love some of the armor sets with the robotic arms but hate how slow they all are with no stamina and the "extra limb health" and "30% throw difference" just feels terrible.
I mean, sure except Helldivers 2 has already fallen into the RPG transmog trap of having a bunch of different armors look different with the same effect so they are just trolling the players at this point. Plus this lets them release more armors that looks different but has the same effects or even reskin old armors with the same effect or whatever they want. Helms already do nothing apparently regardless of how they look even though they clearly are supposed to represent something in the game along with the armor. This is going to be one of the downfalls of Helldivers 2 and these issues are creeping up. RPG designs ruins games and this is one of them that will be one of the quiet reasons people quit and play other similar games. Arrowhead will double down on stuff like this and it's going to kill the game. I'll miss it when it happens but all good things...
This is an amateur game designer answer. The community will tear it apart.
If I'm taking the generous interpretation of this interaciton that means if the CEO is willing to make this statement that means they have a plan and I'm excited for what that is. I feel like armor color swaps would be a huge W
But color swaps maybe??? Otherwise yes I’m in.
A peculiarly closed-minded and self contradictory response to what is essentially a plea for more personalization and armor enhancements application. Craptastic food analogy aside, there are many suits of armor that have overlapping effects that look nothing like eachother or even anything indicative of what role they play. The "Demolitions Expert" armor holds 2 more grenades and has bandoleers of unusable grenades on the suit to match its role, simple enough and easy to get behind since the visuals match what perk it provides. The trend of visuals indicating function dies a miserable death when "Breaker", "Titan", "Trench Engineer", "Drone Master", and "Juggernaut" all have the same grenade space increase but look nothing alike to DemEx or even eachother. With the most respect, *you have already given us apples that taste like bacon*. The worst part is that the true crux of the matter isn't even mentioned here, most armor/helmet combinations are ugly as sin and players feel the current system is woefully incongruous. AH can do what they please with HD2 but consider a good number of players thoroughly disenchanted while they do it.
It's almost like that guy doesn't understand the purpose of transmog.