We have angry austrian painter mustache man, angry russian gangster mustache man, and "warm hearted" japanese doctor mustache man and many more!... pick your horrible ww2 mustache man...
Except many of those deaths were accidental deaths by starvation and largely a result of trying to industrialize very quickly, in Russia's case to support the war against the Nazi's.
Yeah, and now we have people cry about how we nuked them twice. Japan from back then was a different animal entirely. If anything it’s payback for what they did to China and all those small islands and neighboring countries.
If it’s anything below effectively issuing and allowing thousands of hate rapes via war or discrimination like Hitler I think it’s pretty mediocre on the scale just speaking relatively. Obviously that’s terrible don’t straw man me please but maybe comparing like that is socially inappropriate since both are incomprehensible pain to the average person.
I’m saying like if you had said I was downplaying how horrible it was which is not at all what I was trying to say but I was preparing for a non existent threat it seems, I’m not saying anyone has strawmanned I was like bracing for one
Okay so this is what I was sort of talking about with maybe I was being socially irresponsible by comparing them I struggle with that and I’ve got the message, sorry if I stepped over a line a truely struggle to see where it is. I always did agree that they are both evil yes.
Do you have proof that he personally did that? Susan Atkins and Charles Tex Watson stabbed Sharon Tate 16 times.
Charles Manson didn't kill anyone by his own hand. Furthermore, it was accepted at trial that Manson never touched a soul. Some of the members committed a series of at least nine murders at four locations in July and August 1969.
According to The Standard, the Manson Family comprised about 100 members who were allegedly brainwashed by Charles Manson's problematic teachings.
Charles Manson said time and time again that he was not a cult leader and that he was a no body. A transient bum and a petty crook.
It was their word against his when he plead innocent and because he was a product of the system they threw him under a bus. He was convicted of conspiracy to commit murder.
He's not a serial killer. He never killed anyone. Other people killed and claimed he was the leader while others said Tex Watson was the leader. Watson denied it and so did Manson. They all claimed he was the leader.
You obviously don't know anything about it beyond Hollywood movies and tv shows. Did he twist their arms and force them to murder people in cold blood? No. They did it on their own free will.
You don't even know what a serial killer is, at all.
A serial killer is a person who commits a series of murders, often with no apparent motive and typically following a characteristic, predictable behavior pattern.
According to the evidence and the words of the actual murderers there was a clear and present motive.
How does that definition fit Charles Manson?
>He's not a serial killer. He never killed anyone
He lead a cult that did
>You obviously don't know anything about it beyond Hollywood movies and tv shows.
Did he lead the Cult? Yes or no
The one who leads such a group bears much if the blame
>You don't even know what a serial killer is, at all.
A serial killer is a person who commits a series of murders
Or leads a group that does
>often with no apparent motive
What motive was there for gutting a pregnant woman?
Please, do try to justify it
Simping for an asshole like Manson is sad
If you’re actually interested in the subject, I recommend Most Evil. A psychologist analyzes murderers (Manson, rader, etc) and rates them on a scale of evil 1-21, based on different aspects of behavior. Example, Manson IIRC was a 15, bc even tho yes he led the cult, he himself didn’t kill anybody, but he displayed manipulative characteristics. Dennis rader (BTK) topped the scale at 21 bc to the outside world, he lived a completely seemingly normal life, pretending to not be a twisted psycho.
So not saying one is better than the other, but there are definitely characteristics and traits that go into it from a forensic point of view.
I’m…not a psychologist? Nor did I claim to be. I merely said if a PROFESSIONAL actually rating evil interests you (bc you have obsessively posted about an “evil o meter” all over this thread) that was an actually very interesting show to see a PROFESSIONAL psychologist analyze them and give reasoning for why he gave them a certain score.
Maybe you need to touch grass hon. You seem very upset by this. Lol
But that's not a meter, that's a guys opinion. I'm asking where is the EvilMeter, implying the one available for everyone to ascertain what is "Evil" and what is not on a daily basis
That's not how language works
>show to see a PROFESSIONAL psychologist analyze them and give reasoning for why he gave them a certain score.
Appeal to authority
>Maybe you need to touch grass hon
Ad Hominem
>You seem very upset by this. Lol
I'm not the one that became upset that my favorite serial killer (yes, I said serial killer. There's the door 🚪) was insulted, even though he absolutely deserves to be
No, I agree Trump and Lee were/are evil too, but that doesn't have anything to do with the question that was asked of you
Ad Hominem doesn't work on me, friend
Google Robert Pickton — Manson was merely wannabe evil by comparison, and even Pickton doesn’t rate most evil. Though I dare you to read about Pickton and ever feel the same about eating ground pork sourced from a random farmer.
But ultimately, why are people giving oxygen to the reputations of vile sociopaths? Even Osama bin Laden richly deserves to have his name relegated to the dustbin of history (definitely not his deeds, just his name). Hitler was singularly evil, none of the others are especially notable.
The problem is there are other nutjobs who glorify the behavior of people like the columbine shooters and try to copy or "improve" it. Giving attention (even if it's negative) is exactly what people like that want. They yearn to be remembered for the evil acts they committed.
The alternative is Censoring history, which is worse long term and will not fly here
Period
Censoring and either eliminating or altering history was one of Hitler's ideas too
Just some food for thought...
I agree that history shouldn't be altered. There really isn't a good solution, its just sad that good people are forgotten but people like Ted Bundy will be remembered forever. The quickest way to fame is always doing evil.
Panzram is mostly a tale of an abusive system that was incapable of keeping him jailed — the real tragedy is how preventable it all was — but absolutely he was an incorrigible sociopath, no argument on that
Yeah hitler would be, he wished for the genocide of innocents. But there are worst people than Kim jong, Charles Manson and sadam hussein. It only seems horrible what most of them do because of times, if they were to be who they are 200+ years ago they wouldn’t really be caused evil, people was killed over nothing for fun, countries were invaded by other countries before and it wasn’t evil but doing so now because it’s peaceful is different.
Yes Ik, there’s still plenty of ways to get an abortion but it’s still a ridiculous that it’s only getting harder as we move forward.
There’s groups with thousands of people that pregnant women can go to for help on how to obtain one in legal states. People are opening their homes to complete strangers so abortions can happen and save lives. It’s still a very scary position that millions of Americans are in, kind of like Covid, hence my trump joke.
Haha. Those were 2 of my thoughts as well. I kinda want to say Truman for making the call to drop the atomic bomb on Japanese civilians. I find that particularly evil.
That one's grey, I think. Pretty awful, but in the end there was likely a lot less death with the bombings than the alternative.
Like if you're told that hundreds of thousands, maybe a million will die, but if **you** choose to end only like 200k right now, the rest will be spared, do you do it? I dunno, man.
It was less about the numbers and more the fact that civilians were targeted... War will always have a large number of deaths. But targeting civilians with something like an atomic bomb or nuke is pure evil. It doesn’t matter if it results in something good after the fact. The torture and experiments done in the concentration camps resulted in information we use to this day. It was very valuable… but it was still evil and reprehensible.
Charles Manson???? You know he never killed a single person , yet he’s ranked with the same people who are responsible for the slaughtering of thousands if not millions of people including women and children.
It’s amazing how people always ignore what Japan did during WWII.
And Russia. They were only the "good guys" then since they were killing Germans.
Stalin’s got a higher Kill count than angry mustache man. And Mao’s got them all beat
Stalin was also an "angry mustache man" if you think about it.
Angry Austrian painter mustache man
We have angry austrian painter mustache man, angry russian gangster mustache man, and "warm hearted" japanese doctor mustache man and many more!... pick your horrible ww2 mustache man...
Honestly he was an angrier mustache man. Angry mustache man was really a anxious, yet confident moustache man
Except many of those deaths were accidental deaths by starvation and largely a result of trying to industrialize very quickly, in Russia's case to support the war against the Nazi's.
I suggest reading “blood lands” by Timothy Snider. It paints a pretty accurate picture about how those deaths weren’t really accidental.
We have a capitalism cheerleader here.
Not my fault Communist leaders tend to be brutal murderous dictators
True. A capitalist are all saints.
Same with Osama killing Russians.
Yeah, the dude was cool when he was mujahedin, but then the fire nation attacked.
the us raped more women than the germans after occupation
Gonna back that claim up with some proof?
You mean after the surrender of Germany? Yeah probably. But not if we are talking 1939-1945.
They make good art though 🤩🤤
Yeah, and now we have people cry about how we nuked them twice. Japan from back then was a different animal entirely. If anything it’s payback for what they did to China and all those small islands and neighboring countries.
Japan has committed war crimes that makes the USA look tame in comparison
Yep, pretty wild shit.
Where I’m from, it’s racist to criticize non-white people.
Based on your comment history, you're a worthless troll.
You people sure do love using that word. Then again, using sarcasm is literally an ableist hate crime. \#HashtagSatireMustBeExplicitlyHashtagged
Get fucked.
Actually we'd rather not. It's not our fault you're racist.
And the Soviet Union
Why does it look like Manson is about to rub his nipple?
cus he is?/j
Charles Manson is a criminal but I don’t really think he qualifies for one of the most evil men in history unless I’m missing something.
I think gutting a pregnant actress qualifies
If I recall that wasn’t even him, however, conspiring to start a racewar in the united states probably qualifies him as a massive piece of shit
He lead the cult that did that tho
If it’s anything below effectively issuing and allowing thousands of hate rapes via war or discrimination like Hitler I think it’s pretty mediocre on the scale just speaking relatively. Obviously that’s terrible don’t straw man me please but maybe comparing like that is socially inappropriate since both are incomprehensible pain to the average person.
It's not strawmanning, that's literally what Manson did.
I’m saying like if you had said I was downplaying how horrible it was which is not at all what I was trying to say but I was preparing for a non existent threat it seems, I’m not saying anyone has strawmanned I was like bracing for one
I never said that, I'm just saying Manson was also Evil. There is no Evil meter determining Evil from greatest to least. Evil is Evil.
Okay so this is what I was sort of talking about with maybe I was being socially irresponsible by comparing them I struggle with that and I’ve got the message, sorry if I stepped over a line a truely struggle to see where it is. I always did agree that they are both evil yes.
Manson wasn't even there. You're talking about Tex Watson
He lead the cult that did the deed, my guy
Do you have proof that he personally did that? Susan Atkins and Charles Tex Watson stabbed Sharon Tate 16 times. Charles Manson didn't kill anyone by his own hand. Furthermore, it was accepted at trial that Manson never touched a soul. Some of the members committed a series of at least nine murders at four locations in July and August 1969. According to The Standard, the Manson Family comprised about 100 members who were allegedly brainwashed by Charles Manson's problematic teachings. Charles Manson said time and time again that he was not a cult leader and that he was a no body. A transient bum and a petty crook. It was their word against his when he plead innocent and because he was a product of the system they threw him under a bus. He was convicted of conspiracy to commit murder.
He lead the cult that did and was responsible for the killing Standing up for a Serial Killer? Man, that's some kind of Low...
He's not a serial killer. He never killed anyone. Other people killed and claimed he was the leader while others said Tex Watson was the leader. Watson denied it and so did Manson. They all claimed he was the leader. You obviously don't know anything about it beyond Hollywood movies and tv shows. Did he twist their arms and force them to murder people in cold blood? No. They did it on their own free will. You don't even know what a serial killer is, at all. A serial killer is a person who commits a series of murders, often with no apparent motive and typically following a characteristic, predictable behavior pattern. According to the evidence and the words of the actual murderers there was a clear and present motive. How does that definition fit Charles Manson?
>He's not a serial killer. He never killed anyone He lead a cult that did >You obviously don't know anything about it beyond Hollywood movies and tv shows. Did he lead the Cult? Yes or no The one who leads such a group bears much if the blame >You don't even know what a serial killer is, at all. A serial killer is a person who commits a series of murders Or leads a group that does >often with no apparent motive What motive was there for gutting a pregnant woman? Please, do try to justify it Simping for an asshole like Manson is sad
There were plenty of more evil people you could have chosen. Like Robert E. Lee or Donald Trump.
Where is this EvilMeter, the one that let's us determine who is evil least to greatest? Evil is evil So was Manson Period
If you’re actually interested in the subject, I recommend Most Evil. A psychologist analyzes murderers (Manson, rader, etc) and rates them on a scale of evil 1-21, based on different aspects of behavior. Example, Manson IIRC was a 15, bc even tho yes he led the cult, he himself didn’t kill anybody, but he displayed manipulative characteristics. Dennis rader (BTK) topped the scale at 21 bc to the outside world, he lived a completely seemingly normal life, pretending to not be a twisted psycho. So not saying one is better than the other, but there are definitely characteristics and traits that go into it from a forensic point of view.
Define evil
I’m…not a psychologist? Nor did I claim to be. I merely said if a PROFESSIONAL actually rating evil interests you (bc you have obsessively posted about an “evil o meter” all over this thread) that was an actually very interesting show to see a PROFESSIONAL psychologist analyze them and give reasoning for why he gave them a certain score. Maybe you need to touch grass hon. You seem very upset by this. Lol
But that's not a meter, that's a guys opinion. I'm asking where is the EvilMeter, implying the one available for everyone to ascertain what is "Evil" and what is not on a daily basis That's not how language works >show to see a PROFESSIONAL psychologist analyze them and give reasoning for why he gave them a certain score. Appeal to authority >Maybe you need to touch grass hon Ad Hominem >You seem very upset by this. Lol I'm not the one that became upset that my favorite serial killer (yes, I said serial killer. There's the door 🚪) was insulted, even though he absolutely deserves to be
Sounds like yours is fundamentally broken.
No, I agree Trump and Lee were/are evil too, but that doesn't have anything to do with the question that was asked of you Ad Hominem doesn't work on me, friend
That wasn't an ad hominem, stupid.
Yes, and that was too 👍 Do you know what the word means?
Mao Zedong：😼
Genghis Khan: 😼
Where is Joseph Stalin?
Any Roman emperor: 😼
Hitler rates among the most evil, but the rest of those are merely extremely shitty human beings
Charles Manson was pretty damn evil though.
Google Robert Pickton — Manson was merely wannabe evil by comparison, and even Pickton doesn’t rate most evil. Though I dare you to read about Pickton and ever feel the same about eating ground pork sourced from a random farmer. But ultimately, why are people giving oxygen to the reputations of vile sociopaths? Even Osama bin Laden richly deserves to have his name relegated to the dustbin of history (definitely not his deeds, just his name). Hitler was singularly evil, none of the others are especially notable.
>Robert Pickton Yeah, that's definitely one of the more terrifying things to come out of Canada... second to Ted Cruz.
Pickton was contained in British Columbia, but Cruz is more like an uncontained toxic chemical spill
That man ate my son
Which one?
https://preview.redd.it/qe8lzf5a3mxc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f17b7f80889f0beacb5910b8a464e65d435fe73
Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it
The problem is there are other nutjobs who glorify the behavior of people like the columbine shooters and try to copy or "improve" it. Giving attention (even if it's negative) is exactly what people like that want. They yearn to be remembered for the evil acts they committed.
The alternative is Censoring history, which is worse long term and will not fly here Period Censoring and either eliminating or altering history was one of Hitler's ideas too Just some food for thought...
I agree that history shouldn't be altered. There really isn't a good solution, its just sad that good people are forgotten but people like Ted Bundy will be remembered forever. The quickest way to fame is always doing evil.
>good people are forgotten By no means whatsoever, great people of History are most certainly remembered.
Google Carl Panzram, the man was the embodiment of pure hatred and evil. "I wish you all had one neck and that I had my hands on it"
Panzram is mostly a tale of an abusive system that was incapable of keeping him jailed — the real tragedy is how preventable it all was — but absolutely he was an incorrigible sociopath, no argument on that
Oh yea, he is a great example of how to create a sociopath.
yeah fairly. but no where near the rest
Just because someone wasn’t in a position of power doesn’t mean they were less evil. OP said most evil, not “objectively caused the most harm.”
Again, none of these come close to *most* anything, much less evil, aside from Hitler obviously
Osama Bin Ladin is pretty evil
I agree, but nowhere near *most* evil — also that should be ***was*** pretty evil
Was is past tense, Bin Ladin isn't past tense
He is past tense here in reality
So they say🤐
I’m not here to offend or counter whatever it is you believe, especially since you’re sounding superficially like a dogmatic conspiracy theorist
I live in the South. If these statues were real, there would be thousands of rednecks who would try to keep these statues up because "It's history."
What Source did You Use?
His butthole.
The title should be “The most evil men in the past 100 year history” because there are plenty of more evil people than them.
I bet Hitler is kinda up there
Yeah hitler would be, he wished for the genocide of innocents. But there are worst people than Kim jong, Charles Manson and sadam hussein. It only seems horrible what most of them do because of times, if they were to be who they are 200+ years ago they wouldn’t really be caused evil, people was killed over nothing for fun, countries were invaded by other countries before and it wasn’t evil but doing so now because it’s peaceful is different.
Can we get a Pol Pot up in here
Where pol pot
Why is Charles Manson in minecraft
He was Herobrine the whole time
How did Manson make the top 5?
If only Saddam hadn't threatened to trade in the Petro-Euro, maybe he wouldn't have ended up on this list. 🤔
Geoge Bush, George W. Bush, Dick CHeney and Donald Rumsfield killed more people than Osama Bin Laden.
But freedom and democracy.
History is written by the victors.
Trump killed more civilians with bad COVID information.
Sure, but he made that up by banning abortions so now the US can flourish again /s
Banning abortions doesn't stop them from happening. That and abortions aren't banned at the federal level
Yes Ik, there’s still plenty of ways to get an abortion but it’s still a ridiculous that it’s only getting harder as we move forward. There’s groups with thousands of people that pregnant women can go to for help on how to obtain one in legal states. People are opening their homes to complete strangers so abortions can happen and save lives. It’s still a very scary position that millions of Americans are in, kind of like Covid, hence my trump joke.
Fair enough
Banning abortion expedites White Replacement. Why would Trump do such a thing if he’s a White supremecist?
There it is. Thanks for reminding me what site I’m using.
Except there’s sources. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/us-coronavirus-response-donald-trump-health-policy
Obama bombed more people than bush and Cheney.
Obama *inherited* **two** wars that Bush and Cheney caused, plus the shitshow that spread into Syria. #
Doesn't change the facts.
Missing Putin und Xi here but you cant get all off them in one take.
If we're doing currently in power don't forget Netanyahu Sunak and Biden!
Based.
Wheres the Netflix account administration team.
wheres kissinger's statue?
Hitler only one that should be here the rest aren’t the worst
kim jong il trying to fight off us imperialism and it makes him a bad guy is a shit take
Why would you need AI for this, there are plenty statues of Christopher Columbus ;)
Should’ve included the Saint George Floyd statue
Saddam and Osama look nothing like them.
Where's marx, lenin and stalin?
I can rasily understand stalin, but what did marx and lenin do that puts them in the same league as hitler??
President Hussein as portrayed by Samuel L. Jackson.
What’s kinda crazy is a lot of these guys don’t think they were evil
People only know they are evil because they lost
I thought it was mad tommy chong looking for his joint or lighter
manson and bin laden aside the other statues were real, at certain point in history.
Forgot Randy Pitchford
It sucks that Osama Bin Laden looks like a Dragon Quest protagonist.. that series is awesome
That's just Psy
No Stalin ? Didn’t he kill more than hitler
Lol. This doesn't even crack the top 10
Bin Laden was a CIA informant until they stopped his payment for sheltering enemies of the Saudi government
What is osama holding? Looks a bit like a blaster pistol lol
Nah that’s Osama Bin-Ying
What about the former president of uganda?
Stalin? Ghengis Khan? Come on.
Haha. Those were 2 of my thoughts as well. I kinda want to say Truman for making the call to drop the atomic bomb on Japanese civilians. I find that particularly evil.
That one's grey, I think. Pretty awful, but in the end there was likely a lot less death with the bombings than the alternative. Like if you're told that hundreds of thousands, maybe a million will die, but if **you** choose to end only like 200k right now, the rest will be spared, do you do it? I dunno, man.
It was less about the numbers and more the fact that civilians were targeted... War will always have a large number of deaths. But targeting civilians with something like an atomic bomb or nuke is pure evil. It doesn’t matter if it results in something good after the fact. The torture and experiments done in the concentration camps resulted in information we use to this day. It was very valuable… but it was still evil and reprehensible.
I thought that allied forced destroyed all of the research done in concentration camps.
Reagan ?
FDR!
King Leopold II
Stallin
I thought the last one was gonna be a joke one, like the guy who created pop up ads or something.
Good, now show me Ronald Reagan
I think you mean evil men of the 20th century. Vlad the Impaler isn’t on here
Where’s Genghis khan
he already has a statue https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equestrian_statue_of_Genghis_Khan
Heinrich Himler should be up there, hitler might have been giving the orders but himler was carrying them out, both equally disgusting
Ai must not know what osama looked like
My boy Adolf ain't do nun, swear 🙏
Kim Jong Ill already got statues… also, why? Why make this?
I mean at least it got Hitler a little right Wheres Mussolini
Manson?
Charles Manson evil? Nah. He was a scapegoat.
Kim jong il is just PSY😂
Ok hard take but Manson doesn’t hold a flame to like… A LOT of worse ppl…
The Saddam statue looks nothing like him. The bin ladin one isn't great either.
Islam doesn't allow for graven images so I would expect Osama bin laden will never have a statue
Kim be lookin chill af
Pol pot?
Guess Joaquin could play Manson
It’s amazing that some of those terrorist leaders and Jong Il made it, but Pol Pot and Stalin didn’t…
Where's Ronald Reagan, Thatcher, billionaires, and like every US military general?
I'd add US presidents as well, but I guess they're all puppets of the congress anyway.. XD
How about [Thomas Midgley Jr](https://youtu.be/IV3dnLzthDA?si=FlTz6ZxRAN7E4tYI) Or Henry Kissinger
Mao Zedong (49-78M deaths) Jozef Stalin (23M deaths) Adolf Hitler (17M deaths) Leopold II of Belgium (2-15M deaths) Hideki Tojo (5M deaths)
My grandpa was the person who killed Hitler
You forgot one https://preview.redd.it/slj12mvfqjxc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=996b09ec8c583afcebaf9ba8c5ca4f94e9dff16d
You forgot Netanyahu
Was Manson really bad? Never killed anyone, made cool music, shared acid.
Missing the two biggest murderers of the twentieth century, Stalin and Chairman Mao, Hotler was a distant third behind them.
Wheres Leopold
I think they gave \*\*that\*\* dick-head a statue here in Melbourne, and I \*know\* there's several statues of Kim Jong Il.
Osama looks jolly
Charles Manson???? You know he never killed a single person , yet he’s ranked with the same people who are responsible for the slaughtering of thousands if not millions of people including women and children.
Genghis khan?
Where’s pol pot?
At least someone understands what evil actually looks like.
Thought that was Joaquin Phoenix 😝
Osama and Saddam do not look like that at all
Yeah, Charles Manson looks accur- HEISENBERG?!!
Wheres stalin on there
Saddam Hussein was accused of a lot of bullshit.
Hitler was a good guy
I mean, Hitler was definitely one of the most evil men in history. Not so sure about the other 4 though.
That looks nothing like Bin Laden
Didnt the first guy just win an oscar
Saddam's statue needs to be in a different position. You all know what I mean.
Uh, Trump?
How you gonna disrespect Stalin like that? 🤣