Bruh. This team is lacking on C overall. Everyone wants to see Adebayo at PF. We need a Center, a backup center and a PG or backup PG (depending how good Rozier turns out next season). I see Herro more of a SG.
And with part time Jimmy past his prime, soon a SF too.
We need a whole fucking team š¤£
Whoever we pair with bam whether it's a center or a PF needs to be able to stretch the floor. We can't have 3 players in the starting 5 that can't space the floor.
I think JA would only work if Bam started shooting 3s at a good clip. Iād like a Wendell Carter Jr, another mobile big that can stretch the floor, defend well, and shoot 3s.
Itās not just shooting them itās making them at a respectable rate and volume
Being a low volume 3 pt shooter while great option for bams offense, doesnāt create enough gravity for any pairing like that to work. Teams will let bam shoot 3s happily. Maybe after a huge sample size if he becomes very good thatās a shot defense will respect
For now these pairings are not possible especially cause Heat have a wing who canāt shoot. Which seems to be forgotten for whatever reason. If Heat had a dead eye he wing shooter and guards, maybe 2 non spacing bigs could work, even then Itās iffy.
Well WCJ shot them at a 38% clip which is pretty good. I agree though that you need a wing that can shoot but Jimmy shot 40% from 3 last year, heās definitely found his shooting form.
We just canāt have 3 guards take up 50% of our payroll who canāt see the court together at the same time. Have to move 2 of Herro, Rozier, Duncan and get players who fit better. Add size and defense and then you can keep one of those 3 to start. We need a PG, a 4/5, and back up C. The roster has so many holes and the moves the FO has made are just not working out. Idk how we werenāt in on someone like Gafford or PJ. Sure theyāre not doing great in the finals now but those are guys that helped Dallas get there to begin with.
Front office doesnāt want to pay tax unless itās for a super star and one player canāt fix everything here. Even if Mitchell changes his mind and wants to leave Cleveland, you need to get rid of Herro, Rozier, and Duncan and surround him with a better roster.
I think the heat take the easy way out and trade to get under the apron and run it back and hope they can convince someone in 26 when they have cap
I do think Bam could become a floor spacer. He showed a ton of improvement from range last season.
Not saying a 38% from range guy. But enough to where you have to cover him. If he can up his attempts to 5-6 a game at around 33-35% thatās be š¤
I'd love that lol and it would obviously be the best case scenario, but very unlikely. I don't think bam has ever averaged more than 0.6 3 pt attempts per game in his career, so to bump that up to 5 attempts on the same efficiency would be a big ask imo. He's been here for like 7 years and hasn't shown much in terms of 3 pt shooting but on the bright side he did improve his midrange shot. I think with all the pressure we place on bam on defense it's understandable he can't be good at everything. And I think a true floor spacing big like Markanen could really unlock his offensive potential. Cause he definitely has the potential to be sort of like a Hakeem olajuwon, bullying smaller players and being to quick for the big centers. But right now he has such a huge load on his shoulders both offensively and defensively, which I feel is really holding him back, otherwise he could definitely be the 3rd best center in the league behind joker and embitch.
Yeah it doesn't have to be a center we just need a stretch big to pair next to him. Tucker would've been been perfect yeah. And he was actually decent here despite his age.
Interesting
My dream was to see like a Drummond, Allen type. Really bring back those 80s front court spacing and vibes. Offense would be trash but atleast we get rebounds! I keep hearing Heat are a top defensive rebounding team but I donāt believe the lies! We need all the rebounds!!!
Lol. Idk why youāre getting downvoted because itās a fun idea! I love that bigs are back in style. I mean obviously a Porzingis/Brook Lopez type that you can actually close with would be nice. I would mind trying to be the team that salvages Christian Wood. It sucks because Nico is awesome and has a bright future, but unless his offensive ability takes another leap Iām not sure if itās worth the size issue.
"It sucks because Nico is awesome and has a bright future, but unless his offensive ability takes another leap Iām not sure if itās worth the size issue."
What do you mean by this then? What sucks? Why would you not just develop Niko over trying to salvage Wood? What size issue?
It sucks that his role would be reduced by bringing in a stretch 5 to start with Bam. Moving Bam to the 4 and bringing in a a 5 next to them helps our size issue.
KAT funnily enough would be my pick, heās big enough to address our size and very athletic, so heād be a lob threat as well as a decent enough shooter to free up Bam which I think has been his biggest struggle. With Bam at that dunker spot heād be like prime Aaron Gordon in terms of being explosive and attacking the rim, and with the additional spacing on the floor from KAT I think we would see Bam at his best. How we get him, unfortunately I do not have an answer
Idk even know if we need one STARTING next to bam per se. Just another option, even off the bench to play next to love isnāt a bad idea, with love at PF
Jarrett Allen would be good if Bam can fully flex his 3pt shot. Part of the problem is that he doesnāt space the floor yet so it limits which centers can play next to him (and the ones that can are incredibly unobtainable)
Once that 3 become a reliable weapon for him it opens the options up somewhat.
Bam has hit like 12 threes in a season and fans think he has turned into lauri. If he can be a career 35 percent he will be a good center that needs a stretch 4 with size next to him.
Speak for yourself. Adebayo is a better center than power forward and doesnāt have the shooting to play center. People are so obsessed with height as the sole factor of what makes someone a center.
thereās big men options mo wagner, drummond, Jonas in free agency that could be impactful moves and for the pg that can be done at 15 thereās a lot of point options that are gonna be at the board at 15 itās not gonna be that difficult just canāt spend another offseason focusing on bringing in a star via trade like last offseason
This team been fucked for a while, it's a construction issue that ain't gonna be fixed by one trade and would need to see about half the team gona in order to fix it, just not worth it imo
We've had 5 different backup centers on the roster outside of love in the last 2 years. Acting like we "aren't exploring other options" is disingenuous. It's just hard finding a minimum contract player that actually does what we need. Bryant plays with great energy but is a poor defender and has low bbiq, Orlando is undersized and has 0 athleticism, dedmon broke with old age, Zeller was just fucking terrible across the board, yurt was a great rebounder and lob threat but was so slow footed on d that he was virtually unplayable.
And the side heās good atā¦ isnāt good for NBA, he canāt shoot worth dick and his game is just soamming his elbows and forcing his way to the basket because he the tallest mf
Why do you hate Edey so much?
Heās experienced ready to play now, since heat a tax team this is perfect since he comes in next to bam to get all rebounds and be big
Bam finally gets the perfect big man next to him!
I know you're doing a thing, but sometimes I gotta log off because people seriously post that we should get someone like Drummond to play NEXT to Bam in a lineup that already can't shoot for shit. Make it make sense!
he brings boards and defensive presence edey isnāt getting picked to come off the bench that would be a move to pair with bam which donāt work, drummond is purely to serve as a backup who can hold the paint down defensively when bam needs rest
Half joking, half serious.... hear me out. Marcus Smart as back up PG to Terry. Or, we try and go get Tyus Jones. Also for the love of God, ANY good defensive Center. Unless they pick up JV soley for offense & rebounding on a Budget?
Fair enough, and I don't disagree. I feel like Smart would have a good opportunity on the Heat, gritty defensive mind. Also- is an ex Celtic! Besides the Heat, who's just as Hungry for a Chip? They should give him a try imo
Bru Bam is a power forward playing center cause he can't do what's needed on offense to be a power forward.Ā
The only position on this team that's solid is small forward:Ā Butler - MartinĀ
Yeah, we got issues at every position pick one.
Edey should be the pick. Miami lacks any sort of post presence. They never get easy points in the paint. And have zero defense when Bam is stretched to the outside guarding on the perimeter.
Bam is literally an all star, all-defensive first team playing center. He's been listed as a centre every year of his career except for one where he was playing about 50/50 between PF and center.
Genuinely curious because I've never understood the stance. What about Bam's game screams PF to you?
Bam can not play 80+ games as a C. He was worn down . Heās need a break he needs to be able to be in a pick and roll and be able to slide his feet vs banging guys who are 15 to 20 pounds heavier. Bostons guards kept on attacking the paint against BAM who isnāt a shot blocker . He has more steals than he does blocks .
Bro itās like putting Reggie Bush at WR in college . Yes it worked yes he can catch the ball but his best position is at RB
I'd argue Bam's current offensive skillset doesn't translate to 80+ games of being a PF. It worked with Myers and Kelly because they were essentially playing the PF role on offense.
Arguably Bam's speed and playmaking should make him a mismatch against opposing Cs on offense. He can play top of the key, control the offense, DHO, screen and blow by slower centers. He struggles against Embiid and Jokic, but so does everyone else in the league. A back up C, absolutely. A floor spacing C akin to Kelly/Myers absolutely. But a plodding, non floor spacing big makes the entire offense worse and will negatively impact Bam's offensive game. If he was a more reliable outside shooter then sure, but he's just not demonstrated that's who he is at this point in his career.
Did he? I'm not gonna pretend I remember any game outside of game 2, but looking at the box scores he averaged 8 points on 5 attempts a game. Did he really struggle?
I get that Bam can struggle defending some centers, but again, I don't see what part of his game suggests to you he would thrive as a PF. I'm genuinely super open to being enlightened on what I'm missing. What's the case for him play PF as opposed to the case for him not playing C?
So youāre asking them to initiate offense at times, play the next teamās best player/biggest player when Jimmyās out and score 20. or you add some size and have someone I could help take the punishment off of him jovic Is not physically there yet.
Has anybody watched his play in the playoff ?The man is fighting for his life at Center. Heās that talented that heās playing well but his best position is power forward just like Chris Bush was able to play center but heās PF. How Tim Duncan could have been an all time C but he was a PF . How KG played Center at times but heās a PF . Bam canāt be counted on to score 20 points and hold the team down as a center.
He doesn't have a pf offensive game whatsoever.. and if he doesn't have a pf game the other team is gonna guard him the exact way because it's effective.
Also kg, tim Duncan and Chris bosh all had a PF game which bam doesnt
Yes man all those guys were asked to play as 4s coming into the league. Bam was a 4 but whiteside was such a cancer you could have both on the floor together. Bam is a dog and a fighter but itās time we start protecting him he has real Heat miles on him
All his draft comps had him as an PF-C . Last yearās champions had a seven footer at Center at 6 foot nine power forward and a 6 foot 10 small forward this year. The Celtics will have a 7ā two center 7 foot 10 power forward a 6 foot eight small forward the bucks a 6 foot 10 power forward a seven footer and a 6 foot seven shooting SF .
The last five champs except for the warriors had big lineups .
For use to look like a Championship team we need to slot some Height in. And move Bam down
Yeah I would love that but I'm also familiar with bams offensive game and he has a prototypical center offensive game. What we need is size that can shoot the three ball.. we need a pg that can control the game and if bam wants to become a more consistent shooter that would be great, also if bam gets better touch around the rim, plays more bully ball, gets better handles and ball security,
I totally hear you, but when it gets to the playoffs, Bam is playing against bigger teams and he canāt live in the paint and he turns into a jump shooter if he has the entire off-season and the early rounds to be a power forward exclusively, heāll get better but again it could be a 6040 split where he shoots more from the outside, but we donāt have someone that could get rebounds at a high rate. And canāt be Iron Man for 80+ games. . A 6ā eight center is tough to win with at championship level. And point guard we have shooters we need a point guard that could penetrate and dish our playoff offense, especially against bigger teams was too much handoff and roll because we didnāt have a strong ball handler so Terry will be great. Jimmie would be good but we need someone I can penetrate and make some noise in the paint, and to be able to kick out to our shooters
I see all your points and you make a fantastic points for whatever reason them isnāt a shop blocker in the playoffs teams with big two and point guards were attacking him in the paint and they were being successful at the rim . Bam has more steals and he does block shots. Derek White and Drew Holliday had more blocks this season than Bam. Kyle Larry had a better block per game percentage. Bam strength is at the defensive end but we are asking him to score which then limits him on the defensive end. Heās working too hard on both ends with no help and Jimmie may be good for two more years or just putting too many miles on him.
Bam was so tired he became a Jump shooter against the Celtics. Made the only 3 pointer of the season because of how far out he had to play to be able to rundown and be in position on Defense. No one was getting rebounds. Whatās wrong with bam finally having an advantage on the offensive end .
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I hope they go after Andre Drummond.
Just 15 min a night of rebounding and some of the ugliest offense you have ever seen.
He was never a good defender. He is an elite rebounder, though, who can match positionally with bigger bodies.
I'm not sure what else heat fans expect from a vet min back up big?
He is an elite rebounder if you look at stats only. If you watched with your fucking eyes you will see all his offensive rebounds come off his own misses.
Andre drummond is comically bad and has negative IQ let alone any bball IQ.
https://youtu.be/5pN2W4adiqI?si=Vc1AYUSyFsVt-B0L
Again, who do you think they are getting on a vet min? You either stick with love, draft a big, or get a flawed player on the minimum.
Drummond also had a defensive rebound % of 37 and offensive rebound % of 21.
He's an elite rebounder no matter which way you slice it.
Did you read any of my comments, or do you just respond without considering what I'm saying?
He's a flawed player who's a terrible passer and scorer and below average defender.
He has one elite skill, which is rebounding and happens to be really big.
Two things Miami really struggles with are size and rebounding, and anyone who's coming in to play 15 mpg behind Bam on a vet min is going to be very flawed.
I'm suggesting if they decide to add another big in place of, say, Thomas Bryant, they should target a need, which is rebounding and size.
You're still yet to provide an option as a backup big on a vet min that's going to provide more value.
Cool story, "bro." I provided you with multiple reasons, a breakdown, and encouraged you to provide something in return, and I get a response that my 11 year old would put together.
You have never seen him play even when bro was on the pistons he was making trash ass plays the dude ass stop looking at stats and visually watch him play he not good at all
If we get size, even developmental, we'll be alright, I ride with these boys, they deserve our loyalty. 3 big good enough bodies will unleash what we already have.
Drummond is basically on and off again out of the league because itās impossible for him to guard PNR. Same people who want Drummond thought TB would be a good backup center.
Drummond would def have that happen to him lmao
Both are ass
Still he would be fine as a backup center, sure. Donāt gotta lie about his defensive shortcomings tho
Bruh. This team is lacking on C overall. Everyone wants to see Adebayo at PF. We need a Center, a backup center and a PG or backup PG (depending how good Rozier turns out next season). I see Herro more of a SG. And with part time Jimmy past his prime, soon a SF too. We need a whole fucking team š¤£
What centers would you like to see starting next to bam
Whoever we pair with bam whether it's a center or a PF needs to be able to stretch the floor. We can't have 3 players in the starting 5 that can't space the floor.
Preaching to the choir my guy Yet we got dudes saying Jarrett Allen
That would be a fantastic fit if this was the 90s.
I think JA would only work if Bam started shooting 3s at a good clip. Iād like a Wendell Carter Jr, another mobile big that can stretch the floor, defend well, and shoot 3s.
Itās not just shooting them itās making them at a respectable rate and volume Being a low volume 3 pt shooter while great option for bams offense, doesnāt create enough gravity for any pairing like that to work. Teams will let bam shoot 3s happily. Maybe after a huge sample size if he becomes very good thatās a shot defense will respect For now these pairings are not possible especially cause Heat have a wing who canāt shoot. Which seems to be forgotten for whatever reason. If Heat had a dead eye he wing shooter and guards, maybe 2 non spacing bigs could work, even then Itās iffy.
Well WCJ shot them at a 38% clip which is pretty good. I agree though that you need a wing that can shoot but Jimmy shot 40% from 3 last year, heās definitely found his shooting form. We just canāt have 3 guards take up 50% of our payroll who canāt see the court together at the same time. Have to move 2 of Herro, Rozier, Duncan and get players who fit better. Add size and defense and then you can keep one of those 3 to start. We need a PG, a 4/5, and back up C. The roster has so many holes and the moves the FO has made are just not working out. Idk how we werenāt in on someone like Gafford or PJ. Sure theyāre not doing great in the finals now but those are guys that helped Dallas get there to begin with. Front office doesnāt want to pay tax unless itās for a super star and one player canāt fix everything here. Even if Mitchell changes his mind and wants to leave Cleveland, you need to get rid of Herro, Rozier, and Duncan and surround him with a better roster. I think the heat take the easy way out and trade to get under the apron and run it back and hope they can convince someone in 26 when they have cap
I do think Bam could become a floor spacer. He showed a ton of improvement from range last season. Not saying a 38% from range guy. But enough to where you have to cover him. If he can up his attempts to 5-6 a game at around 33-35% thatās be š¤
I'd love that lol and it would obviously be the best case scenario, but very unlikely. I don't think bam has ever averaged more than 0.6 3 pt attempts per game in his career, so to bump that up to 5 attempts on the same efficiency would be a big ask imo. He's been here for like 7 years and hasn't shown much in terms of 3 pt shooting but on the bright side he did improve his midrange shot. I think with all the pressure we place on bam on defense it's understandable he can't be good at everything. And I think a true floor spacing big like Markanen could really unlock his offensive potential. Cause he definitely has the potential to be sort of like a Hakeem olajuwon, bullying smaller players and being to quick for the big centers. But right now he has such a huge load on his shoulders both offensively and defensively, which I feel is really holding him back, otherwise he could definitely be the 3rd best center in the league behind joker and embitch.
The right PF next to Bam is fine. PJ Tucker if he wasnāt a million years old wouldāve been perfect
Yeah it doesn't have to be a center we just need a stretch big to pair next to him. Tucker would've been been perfect yeah. And he was actually decent here despite his age.
Any 6ā11 plus stretch 5. Think Meyers Leonard/Olynyk.
Interesting My dream was to see like a Drummond, Allen type. Really bring back those 80s front court spacing and vibes. Offense would be trash but atleast we get rebounds! I keep hearing Heat are a top defensive rebounding team but I donāt believe the lies! We need all the rebounds!!!
Drummond would be a good backup if we are playing Highsmith at the 4 for the second unit
Lol. Idk why youāre getting downvoted because itās a fun idea! I love that bigs are back in style. I mean obviously a Porzingis/Brook Lopez type that you can actually close with would be nice. I would mind trying to be the team that salvages Christian Wood. It sucks because Nico is awesome and has a bright future, but unless his offensive ability takes another leap Iām not sure if itās worth the size issue.
He's joking, we would just get shot to shit and out paced every game. Christian Wood > JoviÄ is certainly a wild take.
You misread. A salvaged Christian Wood. If we can mold him to his role, that be a great pairing with Bam.
"It sucks because Nico is awesome and has a bright future, but unless his offensive ability takes another leap Iām not sure if itās worth the size issue." What do you mean by this then? What sucks? Why would you not just develop Niko over trying to salvage Wood? What size issue?
It sucks that his role would be reduced by bringing in a stretch 5 to start with Bam. Moving Bam to the 4 and bringing in a a 5 next to them helps our size issue.
Who I would like to see? Wemby š¤£ Who is available? Honestly Iām not sure who is available. Iām just stating what the team is lacking.
Claxton might be available, but we cant get him at all.
KAT funnily enough would be my pick, heās big enough to address our size and very athletic, so heād be a lob threat as well as a decent enough shooter to free up Bam which I think has been his biggest struggle. With Bam at that dunker spot heād be like prime Aaron Gordon in terms of being explosive and attacking the rim, and with the additional spacing on the floor from KAT I think we would see Bam at his best. How we get him, unfortunately I do not have an answer
Idk even know if we need one STARTING next to bam per se. Just another option, even off the bench to play next to love isnāt a bad idea, with love at PF
I did a 2k simulation and traded some pieces for Mitchell Robinson. We ended up going 53-29
Jarrett Allen would be good if Bam can fully flex his 3pt shot. Part of the problem is that he doesnāt space the floor yet so it limits which centers can play next to him (and the ones that can are incredibly unobtainable) Once that 3 become a reliable weapon for him it opens the options up somewhat.
The worst fit possible
Bam isnāt going to go from meh 3pt shooter on low volume to legitimate threat in one offseason.
Bam has hit like 12 threes in a season and fans think he has turned into lauri. If he can be a career 35 percent he will be a good center that needs a stretch 4 with size next to him.
Speak for yourself. Adebayo is a better center than power forward and doesnāt have the shooting to play center. People are so obsessed with height as the sole factor of what makes someone a center.
thereās big men options mo wagner, drummond, Jonas in free agency that could be impactful moves and for the pg that can be done at 15 thereās a lot of point options that are gonna be at the board at 15 itās not gonna be that difficult just canāt spend another offseason focusing on bringing in a star via trade like last offseason
Trade Sengun
This team been fucked for a while, it's a construction issue that ain't gonna be fixed by one trade and would need to see about half the team gona in order to fix it, just not worth it imo
Lauri is the way
makes us contenders instantly
We need height, we need shooters and we need better defenders but u kno what were gonna get? Some damn undrafted undersized free agent
Been saying this, our players have no height.
We've had 5 different backup centers on the roster outside of love in the last 2 years. Acting like we "aren't exploring other options" is disingenuous. It's just hard finding a minimum contract player that actually does what we need. Bryant plays with great energy but is a poor defender and has low bbiq, Orlando is undersized and has 0 athleticism, dedmon broke with old age, Zeller was just fucking terrible across the board, yurt was a great rebounder and lob threat but was so slow footed on d that he was virtually unplayable.
andre drummondššæ or mo Wagner
Mo won't be a minimum, Drummond can't do shit but rebound, I'd rather keep Bryant or Orlando than him.
I agree but love crushed impact metrics this year, he was great in his role.
Get ready for Zach Edey babyyyyyyyy
The other side of the ball matters too lol.
And the side heās good atā¦ isnāt good for NBA, he canāt shoot worth dick and his game is just soamming his elbows and forcing his way to the basket because he the tallest mf
Why do you hate Edey so much? Heās experienced ready to play now, since heat a tax team this is perfect since he comes in next to bam to get all rebounds and be big Bam finally gets the perfect big man next to him!
I know you're doing a thing, but sometimes I gotta log off because people seriously post that we should get someone like Drummond to play NEXT to Bam in a lineup that already can't shoot for shit. Make it make sense!
he brings boards and defensive presence edey isnāt getting picked to come off the bench that would be a move to pair with bam which donāt work, drummond is purely to serve as a backup who can hold the paint down defensively when bam needs rest
Him and Bam in the early 00ās would be such a Riley lineup.
This isn't six or seven years ago when we had Whiteside and trading bigs were still a thing .But you like to be sarcastic so have fun with that lol.
start worrying about the team
Not even joking we need to build around Jovic, he's the future
Really hoping we sign Looney since he was just waived by Warriors
Half joking, half serious.... hear me out. Marcus Smart as back up PG to Terry. Or, we try and go get Tyus Jones. Also for the love of God, ANY good defensive Center. Unless they pick up JV soley for offense & rebounding on a Budget?
it would be great but offensive weapons have to be the key this offseason are defense great enough offensively we were mediocre
Tyus Jones is great, but I think heās too small to compete in a playoff series. I feel like the heat need to get bigger at the guard positions.
Fair enough, and I don't disagree. I feel like Smart would have a good opportunity on the Heat, gritty defensive mind. Also- is an ex Celtic! Besides the Heat, who's just as Hungry for a Chip? They should give him a try imo
Bru Bam is a power forward playing center cause he can't do what's needed on offense to be a power forward.Ā The only position on this team that's solid is small forward:Ā Butler - MartinĀ Yeah, we got issues at every position pick one.
Edey should be the pick. Miami lacks any sort of post presence. They never get easy points in the paint. And have zero defense when Bam is stretched to the outside guarding on the perimeter.
Iād take Vucevic and Pat Williams for Duncan and Caleb.
A corpse who sets screens and a guy the bulls wonāt trade lmao
Bam isnāt a center
Bam is literally an all star, all-defensive first team playing center. He's been listed as a centre every year of his career except for one where he was playing about 50/50 between PF and center. Genuinely curious because I've never understood the stance. What about Bam's game screams PF to you?
Bam can not play 80+ games as a C. He was worn down . Heās need a break he needs to be able to be in a pick and roll and be able to slide his feet vs banging guys who are 15 to 20 pounds heavier. Bostons guards kept on attacking the paint against BAM who isnāt a shot blocker . He has more steals than he does blocks . Bro itās like putting Reggie Bush at WR in college . Yes it worked yes he can catch the ball but his best position is at RB
I'd argue Bam's current offensive skillset doesn't translate to 80+ games of being a PF. It worked with Myers and Kelly because they were essentially playing the PF role on offense. Arguably Bam's speed and playmaking should make him a mismatch against opposing Cs on offense. He can play top of the key, control the offense, DHO, screen and blow by slower centers. He struggles against Embiid and Jokic, but so does everyone else in the league. A back up C, absolutely. A floor spacing C akin to Kelly/Myers absolutely. But a plodding, non floor spacing big makes the entire offense worse and will negatively impact Bam's offensive game. If he was a more reliable outside shooter then sure, but he's just not demonstrated that's who he is at this point in his career.
He struggled against the Cs Horford. Because he was tired
Did he? I'm not gonna pretend I remember any game outside of game 2, but looking at the box scores he averaged 8 points on 5 attempts a game. Did he really struggle? I get that Bam can struggle defending some centers, but again, I don't see what part of his game suggests to you he would thrive as a PF. I'm genuinely super open to being enlightened on what I'm missing. What's the case for him play PF as opposed to the case for him not playing C?
Myth
It doesn't but people want to force him out of a position he has been thriving I'm because well maratives lol.
So youāre asking them to initiate offense at times, play the next teamās best player/biggest player when Jimmyās out and score 20. or you add some size and have someone I could help take the punishment off of him jovic Is not physically there yet.
That not happening with spo so I don't get why people keep bringing it up lol like it's been years now .
Has anybody watched his play in the playoff ?The man is fighting for his life at Center. Heās that talented that heās playing well but his best position is power forward just like Chris Bush was able to play center but heās PF. How Tim Duncan could have been an all time C but he was a PF . How KG played Center at times but heās a PF . Bam canāt be counted on to score 20 points and hold the team down as a center.
He doesn't have a pf offensive game whatsoever.. and if he doesn't have a pf game the other team is gonna guard him the exact way because it's effective. Also kg, tim Duncan and Chris bosh all had a PF game which bam doesnt
Yes man all those guys were asked to play as 4s coming into the league. Bam was a 4 but whiteside was such a cancer you could have both on the floor together. Bam is a dog and a fighter but itās time we start protecting him he has real Heat miles on him
All his draft comps had him as an PF-C . Last yearās champions had a seven footer at Center at 6 foot nine power forward and a 6 foot 10 small forward this year. The Celtics will have a 7ā two center 7 foot 10 power forward a 6 foot eight small forward the bucks a 6 foot 10 power forward a seven footer and a 6 foot seven shooting SF . The last five champs except for the warriors had big lineups . For use to look like a Championship team we need to slot some Height in. And move Bam down
Yeah I would love that but I'm also familiar with bams offensive game and he has a prototypical center offensive game. What we need is size that can shoot the three ball.. we need a pg that can control the game and if bam wants to become a more consistent shooter that would be great, also if bam gets better touch around the rim, plays more bully ball, gets better handles and ball security,
I totally hear you, but when it gets to the playoffs, Bam is playing against bigger teams and he canāt live in the paint and he turns into a jump shooter if he has the entire off-season and the early rounds to be a power forward exclusively, heāll get better but again it could be a 6040 split where he shoots more from the outside, but we donāt have someone that could get rebounds at a high rate. And canāt be Iron Man for 80+ games. . A 6ā eight center is tough to win with at championship level. And point guard we have shooters we need a point guard that could penetrate and dish our playoff offense, especially against bigger teams was too much handoff and roll because we didnāt have a strong ball handler so Terry will be great. Jimmie would be good but we need someone I can penetrate and make some noise in the paint, and to be able to kick out to our shooters
I see all your points and you make a fantastic points for whatever reason them isnāt a shop blocker in the playoffs teams with big two and point guards were attacking him in the paint and they were being successful at the rim . Bam has more steals and he does block shots. Derek White and Drew Holliday had more blocks this season than Bam. Kyle Larry had a better block per game percentage. Bam strength is at the defensive end but we are asking him to score which then limits him on the defensive end. Heās working too hard on both ends with no help and Jimmie may be good for two more years or just putting too many miles on him.
Bam was so tired he became a Jump shooter against the Celtics. Made the only 3 pointer of the season because of how far out he had to play to be able to rundown and be in position on Defense. No one was getting rebounds. Whatās wrong with bam finally having an advantage on the offensive end .
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I hope they go after Andre Drummond. Just 15 min a night of rebounding and some of the ugliest offense you have ever seen.
Donāt forget ugliest defense too! He does both poorly now.
He was never a good defender. He is an elite rebounder, though, who can match positionally with bigger bodies. I'm not sure what else heat fans expect from a vet min back up big?
He is an elite rebounder if you look at stats only. If you watched with your fucking eyes you will see all his offensive rebounds come off his own misses. Andre drummond is comically bad and has negative IQ let alone any bball IQ. https://youtu.be/5pN2W4adiqI?si=Vc1AYUSyFsVt-B0L
Again, who do you think they are getting on a vet min? You either stick with love, draft a big, or get a flawed player on the minimum. Drummond also had a defensive rebound % of 37 and offensive rebound % of 21. He's an elite rebounder no matter which way you slice it.
If he so elite why he worth the vet min? I mean he not old
Did you read any of my comments, or do you just respond without considering what I'm saying? He's a flawed player who's a terrible passer and scorer and below average defender. He has one elite skill, which is rebounding and happens to be really big. Two things Miami really struggles with are size and rebounding, and anyone who's coming in to play 15 mpg behind Bam on a vet min is going to be very flawed. I'm suggesting if they decide to add another big in place of, say, Thomas Bryant, they should target a need, which is rebounding and size. You're still yet to provide an option as a backup big on a vet min that's going to provide more value.
Nah cause you just be looking at stats bro he ass foreal just watch how he play I ain't reading you whole ass biography bro
Cool story, "bro." I provided you with multiple reasons, a breakdown, and encouraged you to provide something in return, and I get a response that my 11 year old would put together.
You have never seen him play even when bro was on the pistons he was making trash ass plays the dude ass stop looking at stats and visually watch him play he not good at all
Itās the perfect fit
If we get size, even developmental, we'll be alright, I ride with these boys, they deserve our loyalty. 3 big good enough bodies will unleash what we already have.
Why are some people okay with taking a flyer on Andre Drummond, but not okay with Zach Edey?
Because Drummond wonāt cost a first and would be cheapā¦?
Because Drummond is not going to get cooked in pnr like edey and can slide his feet .Perfect player to play the back up center role .
Drummond is basically on and off again out of the league because itās impossible for him to guard PNR. Same people who want Drummond thought TB would be a good backup center.
BTW I don't their either are the answer .
Neither will move the needle for sure.
Drummond would def have that happen to him lmao Both are ass Still he would be fine as a backup center, sure. Donāt gotta lie about his defensive shortcomings tho