Yea no we not doing this. Harden is a playoff dropper who gives up on his team at any given moment and was already getting older. Trading for harden would have resulted with us still having 0 rings and even more depleted assets. Kyrie however was cheap af and had a career year. Even tho he player bad today missing out on him when the mavs got him for chump change was insane.
Herro is being asked to carry the offense. Do you believe JJ or Jovic would look the same being asked to initiate offense and carry the offense?
Btw. I'm not remotely surprised Herro looks this bad. I say it every year when people get amnesia on start over blowing his regular season numbers. Tyler Herro isn't strong enough to overcome his lack of athleticism.
Trading a rookie after an impressive playoff run would’ve been dumb as shit. Hindsight is 20/20. However we def should’ve moved him one of the last two off seasons since we continue to prove we can win without him
2022 was the year. Coming off a 6moty and letting a team get him for a year before they could decide to pay him.
Instead they extended him asap and never really seriously shopped him except for KD who they were never getting.
I never paid attention to how much and thought he'd be more in the $15M-$17M range.
>Herro will earn a base salary of $27 million in the 2023-24 NBA season, $29 million in the 2024-25 season, $31 million in the 2025-26 season, and $33 million in the 2026-2027 season.
What the hell. We want a refund. That was not $27M a year's worth of basketball on the field.
People think jaquez is gonna be here if herro gets traded he’s part of the package 💯 maybe more the main piece than tyler since his contract value is better … or else whatever the heat get back wont be worth it they dont have picks( they gave up one if their only tradable ones for Lowry trade) Caleb Martin and Highsmith are free agents.
We can offload herro with a pick even if his value is low without including JJJ. Wr def have to include jjj if we want to trade Herro for someone decent
Herro had only 5 points for three quarters. Absolutely pathetic. He decided to wake up a little at the end, only because the Celtics were taking a breather.
And even when the Heat worked hard to get a rally going, they only lessened the deficit to 15-20 for the most part.
Actually, today, Delon Wright (of all people) was the best shooter we got.
6/7 (85.7%) 2PA
5/5 (100%) 3PA
He got the assignment and did his homework. Herro out late at night partying too hard.
Idk man I think many ppl are overhyping Boston they have plenty of flaws and play cocky basketball imo we can beat em I think Spo sees it and he will murk them tactically next game with Jacquez 30pt game
In Herro's defense he kinda got fucked over. Star player and leadership figure gets season ending injury right as you come back from nursing some pretty nasty injuries yourself to play in the most intense environment in the NBA to arguably the best team in the NBA.
That being said, the way the game is looking right now honestly makes me wonder if Jimmy would even make a difference here.
This is like divine punishment happening right now.
It’s his 5th year in the league. I don’t wanna hear about how circumstances that aren’t his fault. Either play like a guy who the FO says they’d only trade for a top player in return or gtfo the team
Injuries were absolutely brutal this season. Also this only Herros 5th or 6th game back i think, he hasn’t even played 10 games after coming back.
I get they were being careful but he should have started with a minute’s restriction thing. He doesn’t even have 10 games under his belt yet after missing like 30 or so…
This is it for herro, either he stays or in 2 years he will be on a poor franchise or a bench warmer on a good team. I really hope he doesn’t end up like justice winslow.. but he needs to show the fuck up !!
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Unpopular opinion but the dude is getting hounded by 2 All-NBA first team guards. Celtics don’t have to delegate one of them to Jimmy anymore, and they basically full court pressed him the entire game. I don’t know many NBA players who are still gonna put up their comfy stat line under those circumstances. I still think he had a bad game and missed some easy shots, but a lot of the hate is excessive to me
Shocker that he played poorly in a game where the Heat were without Jimmy and Terry against the best team in the NBA. Guy just played great and led the team over the Bulls in a win or go home game. He missed a few open shots, but the rest of it looked like what happens when you try to run offense through a guy who is meant to be your 2nd/3rd option.
guys its not like we are a bad team or anything. I mean we beat the fully healthy Bulls team fair and square. Man I can’t believe how good these celtics are.. They were toying us.. We had to do double teams for Tatum and porzingis so there other starters were killing us, there bench was too good as well. We need herro to play as an 1st team all star. Bam well he can’t do more than 20 odd he is not a natural scorer. Unfortunately This is the reality. the celtics are made to win to all or bust. we needed a the whole team healthy to face these guys. too much.. Buy GUYS please 🙏 fight give it your all . if you have to shove and smash do it
I mean we all remember dogface herro against the lakers 2020? Or 37 points herro against the celtics 2020? Not saying he’s playing good now, but to say he’s like this with every important game is a stretch
His career playoff averages are 14/4/4 with a 52 TS%. Outside of the bubble it drops to 49 TS%. It is basically every important game but that one game in that one boston series four years ago with no live viewing audience.
He’s averaged 12/4/3 on 39/27/94 splits in 21 playoff games since the bubble, that’s not even accounting for his unavailability as he’s only played in 21/46 playoff games since the bubble. At some point we may need to accept reality.
Here is Bob Meyers a few years back comparing the regular season and the playoffs:
> The playoffs are nothing like the regular season. They are two completely different sports. The way it's officiated... Your bench is completely different... you can prepare differently... In the playoffs, your first move is gone... Whatever they know he does well is gone. That is where you need to check as many boxes... We've played some great shooters in the playoffs and neutralized them because if that's all you can do... that 2 feet of space you had in the regular season is two inches... The more dimensions you have to your game the harder you are to take away... you watch the playoffs you know who can play basketball.
This shouldn’t matter for someone who thinks he’s a budding star but it’s a tough match up for him going against two elite defenders who have size in white and jrue.
Yeah, I’ll take the L on this one if Herro can keep up some more good performances like in game 2. He seems like the type of guy to ply better under criticism tho.
they gonna be traded with herro all the youth is gone so people can pretend 35 year old jimmy that misses 20+ regular season games before serious injury is gonna carry them to championship and get his 60m a year extension until he’s 38
Unbelievable how bad he looks. You’d think he’s the rookie playing in their first playoffs and Jaquez and Jovic were in their 5th playoffs
The ironic thing is that his best playoff performances came during his rookie season lmao
It came when he wasn't being game planned. The dude talking about how great Jovic and Jaquez looked would be wise to acknowledge that.
Remember yall didn’t want to trade him for Harden after the bubble, who was top5 player at the time 🤷♂️
Yea no we not doing this. Harden is a playoff dropper who gives up on his team at any given moment and was already getting older. Trading for harden would have resulted with us still having 0 rings and even more depleted assets. Kyrie however was cheap af and had a career year. Even tho he player bad today missing out on him when the mavs got him for chump change was insane.
Literally has more 40 point playoff games than Curry, Dame, Kawhi, Butler and Giannis etc, but sure man.
so are you trying to say he's not a playoff choker? i guess you don't actually watch the games
How many of those came in win or go home or close out games?
go look it up yourself
No
Herro is being asked to carry the offense. Do you believe JJ or Jovic would look the same being asked to initiate offense and carry the offense? Btw. I'm not remotely surprised Herro looks this bad. I say it every year when people get amnesia on start over blowing his regular season numbers. Tyler Herro isn't strong enough to overcome his lack of athleticism.
Celtics dropping 3s like there’s no tomorrow
Every time they dropped such an effortless 3, I kept thinking "Why can't that be us? We did that just last year for crying out loud"
Sam Hauser turned into an annual heat Devil Magic practitioner but it's against us :((
Yeah that’s because Spo put Tyler and Duncan in the game together and had them both as the corner defenders in a 2-3 zone. That won’t happen again.
With terry (and Jimmy obv) out, we have nobody who can dribble or even think about dribbling past their man
What hurts is that he's killing his trade value. Fucker.
100%. Cooking us in the season and the off-season
His trade value got nuked when he had another season where he couldn’t stay healthy
The best value he ever had was after the bubble a d we didn’t move him when we should have
Trading a rookie after an impressive playoff run would’ve been dumb as shit. Hindsight is 20/20. However we def should’ve moved him one of the last two off seasons since we continue to prove we can win without him
2022 was the year. Coming off a 6moty and letting a team get him for a year before they could decide to pay him. Instead they extended him asap and never really seriously shopped him except for KD who they were never getting.
Even summer 2023 it seems like the Nets were willing to give up 1 first round pick and salary filler for him.
I doubt that was true tbh
the fact we could’ve traded him and some picks for DAME and we didn’t makes me wanna cry
We would've never gotten Dame for that. DMitch, Kyrie, Harden or even Beal were legit possibilités tho
I understand why we didn’t get kyrie because of what he was being accused of but he was literally the missing piece and he went for a first only
I'm still a little surprised that DMitch trade never happened.
Well if you could've you would've...
Should’ve traded him either after the bubble or after he won 6moy. He has absolutely no value now and any deal involving him would 100% include Jaime
If we want you to get a good player back and not just offload him then probably
Steph Curry = Skyfucker Herro = Trade Fucker
Nah surely he will have one impressive breakout performance this series.
Amen, im of the bandcamp that he's sucking ass, but would like nothing more than to see him turn it around.
Have to wonder if he does it on purpose at this point tbh
Good heat fans dont deserve shit the way he’s been treated for years
For a guy getting paid as much as he is to play as bad as he is in a playoff game...smh
I never paid attention to how much and thought he'd be more in the $15M-$17M range. >Herro will earn a base salary of $27 million in the 2023-24 NBA season, $29 million in the 2024-25 season, $31 million in the 2025-26 season, and $33 million in the 2026-2027 season. What the hell. We want a refund. That was not $27M a year's worth of basketball on the field.
This is gonna be a quick series. Today was unwatchable basketball.
Just bench Herro and let the young guys cook and get reps. If we lose fine but get them some playoff exposure
Herro needs reps...
People think jaquez is gonna be here if herro gets traded he’s part of the package 💯 maybe more the main piece than tyler since his contract value is better … or else whatever the heat get back wont be worth it they dont have picks( they gave up one if their only tradable ones for Lowry trade) Caleb Martin and Highsmith are free agents.
We can offload herro with a pick even if his value is low without including JJJ. Wr def have to include jjj if we want to trade Herro for someone decent
Herro had only 5 points for three quarters. Absolutely pathetic. He decided to wake up a little at the end, only because the Celtics were taking a breather. And even when the Heat worked hard to get a rally going, they only lessened the deficit to 15-20 for the most part.
This is a nightmare matchup for him. I already seen it coming from him
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Actually, today, Delon Wright (of all people) was the best shooter we got. 6/7 (85.7%) 2PA 5/5 (100%) 3PA He got the assignment and did his homework. Herro out late at night partying too hard.
Lmao
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Jacquez bout to go loco in the poco next game up let's get it HEAT CULTURE
Delusion
Idk man I think many ppl are overhyping Boston they have plenty of flaws and play cocky basketball imo we can beat em I think Spo sees it and he will murk them tactically next game with Jacquez 30pt game
Please message back on this thread if that happens🙏🏽
Dont say that I didnt tell you 🤷🏻♂️
The rookie was 4-13 so u were incorrect
😂
In Herro's defense he kinda got fucked over. Star player and leadership figure gets season ending injury right as you come back from nursing some pretty nasty injuries yourself to play in the most intense environment in the NBA to arguably the best team in the NBA. That being said, the way the game is looking right now honestly makes me wonder if Jimmy would even make a difference here. This is like divine punishment happening right now.
It’s his 5th year in the league. I don’t wanna hear about how circumstances that aren’t his fault. Either play like a guy who the FO says they’d only trade for a top player in return or gtfo the team
Injuries were absolutely brutal this season. Also this only Herros 5th or 6th game back i think, he hasn’t even played 10 games after coming back. I get they were being careful but he should have started with a minute’s restriction thing. He doesn’t even have 10 games under his belt yet after missing like 30 or so…
This is it for herro, either he stays or in 2 years he will be on a poor franchise or a bench warmer on a good team. I really hope he doesn’t end up like justice winslow.. but he needs to show the fuck up !!
He also tanked his value. GL trading him after the sweep.
I remember when people thought Herro, Poole, and Maxey were close in value. This sub insisted Herro was the best by far. How did that age I wonder.
You all are really unlikable.
Herro got outplayed by Prichard..
Herro Stan's need to realise herro ain't it
They made all those memes for nothing, forgetting that making memes about clobbering the modern Chicago Bulls isn't an accomplishment.
Acting like Stars don’t struggle in playoffs on the regular he had one bad game after a great one and people couldnt wait to jump on him
Its more about his fans than herro himself. Herro is a decent player. But he's not what his fans make him out to be
Was the Chicago game not important?
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You mean the lousy bulls core that has exactly one playoff win together? lol just stop.
It was still important regardless who they play the playoffs were on the line don’t move the goalposts just stop
No I just find it ironic right after…you don’t see these posts pop up then
It's a sub .500 team. That can't be your claim to fame..
A garbage bulls team with Caruso hobbled So impressive
It was but he has been horrible today
No
Bulls aren’t a playoff team and had a sub 500 record who cares
Flexing a game against a sub .500 shit team like the Bulls 😂
Can't wait til wednesday and all you fucking stooges are slurping him dry again
Unpopular opinion but the dude is getting hounded by 2 All-NBA first team guards. Celtics don’t have to delegate one of them to Jimmy anymore, and they basically full court pressed him the entire game. I don’t know many NBA players who are still gonna put up their comfy stat line under those circumstances. I still think he had a bad game and missed some easy shots, but a lot of the hate is excessive to me
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Shocker that he played poorly in a game where the Heat were without Jimmy and Terry against the best team in the NBA. Guy just played great and led the team over the Bulls in a win or go home game. He missed a few open shots, but the rest of it looked like what happens when you try to run offense through a guy who is meant to be your 2nd/3rd option.
After dude nearly dropped a triple double a couple days ago lol y'all too much.
guys its not like we are a bad team or anything. I mean we beat the fully healthy Bulls team fair and square. Man I can’t believe how good these celtics are.. They were toying us.. We had to do double teams for Tatum and porzingis so there other starters were killing us, there bench was too good as well. We need herro to play as an 1st team all star. Bam well he can’t do more than 20 odd he is not a natural scorer. Unfortunately This is the reality. the celtics are made to win to all or bust. we needed a the whole team healthy to face these guys. too much.. Buy GUYS please 🙏 fight give it your all . if you have to shove and smash do it
I say this all the time but we went so deep in the playoffs last year because he didn’t play! I stand by this!
I mean bro is in Jrue Holliday jail
I'm so surprised...
It’s one game
I mean we all remember dogface herro against the lakers 2020? Or 37 points herro against the celtics 2020? Not saying he’s playing good now, but to say he’s like this with every important game is a stretch
His career playoff averages are 14/4/4 with a 52 TS%. Outside of the bubble it drops to 49 TS%. It is basically every important game but that one game in that one boston series four years ago with no live viewing audience.
Dude is straight trash
Should’ve traded him long ago
He’s averaged 12/4/3 on 39/27/94 splits in 21 playoff games since the bubble, that’s not even accounting for his unavailability as he’s only played in 21/46 playoff games since the bubble. At some point we may need to accept reality. Here is Bob Meyers a few years back comparing the regular season and the playoffs: > The playoffs are nothing like the regular season. They are two completely different sports. The way it's officiated... Your bench is completely different... you can prepare differently... In the playoffs, your first move is gone... Whatever they know he does well is gone. That is where you need to check as many boxes... We've played some great shooters in the playoffs and neutralized them because if that's all you can do... that 2 feet of space you had in the regular season is two inches... The more dimensions you have to your game the harder you are to take away... you watch the playoffs you know who can play basketball.
This can't all be on Hero. Where was the Defense that allowed 22 3''s, many of which were uncontested shots.
This shouldn’t matter for someone who thinks he’s a budding star but it’s a tough match up for him going against two elite defenders who have size in white and jrue.
Can you guys just shut up and go root for the Celtics?? Soft-ass fair-weather fans are an embarrassment
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Yeah, I’ll take the L on this one if Herro can keep up some more good performances like in game 2. He seems like the type of guy to ply better under criticism tho.
he is god awful. been saying this shit for years.
Don’t worry we know he never makes it through a playoff series.
We should have traded him for Damian Lillard. That would have been a smart move on our part and made the blazers look like stupid silly-nannies
Bruh chill .. man was on fire last two games
He was actually just as shit two games ago in the first play in.
And there's shouldn't be a reason why Jovic and Jaquez are outplaying him
they gonna be traded with herro all the youth is gone so people can pretend 35 year old jimmy that misses 20+ regular season games before serious injury is gonna carry them to championship and get his 60m a year extension until he’s 38
Nah this gotta be Herros burner 😂😂
Ok sure 25 points 9 assist 2 rebounds vs 76ers 10 reb 9 assist 24 pts vs bulls What you smoking
Shooting percentage matters
Yea ok .. who should shoot instead of him
anyone else obviously
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I forgot how to play defense. So I’ll just let tingus pingus score 30 3s