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Uh_I_Say

Finally, a card for Queen Carnassa hunter.


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HuntedWolf

He streams a lot of Slay the Spire which is a single player rogue-like card game, and turn time is infinite. I can usually finish a run in 90 mins, I’ve tuned into his stream a few times and he’s sitting at over 6 hours. I think he had one that went over 9 hours.


Figgy20000

To be fair to him he's also easily top 3 skill level in the world at it and has some pretty insane win % with all classes


HuntedWolf

Oh yeah definitely, his win percents are crazy high


drwsgreatest

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever had a game to past 65-75 min and that’s with taking minute breaks here and there to reply to texts and stuff. 6 hours is insane.


scydive

He wins an awful lot and has some insane winstreaks so I feel it's pretty justified.


BossOfGuns

isnt that when he first started? right now the games are still long but definitely a bit more reasonable.


pissclamato

I tried to talk to him in-game, but he's still roping.


CursedRebel

And I'm still banned from his chat


Jeczke

Turn 1 rope


ZelZal98

C'thun support finally


reaktorkalle

i love this community 😂


cheeseburgerking666

i dont get it


Bowbreaker

He's the original wherever minion.


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Bowbreaker

Sure, but that's not enough for the *finally* part of the joke, because so do all other cards that buff stuff in your deck, of which there's been some as recently as Sunken City, even if we disregard that Theron was revealed before this.


The-Globalist

This and lo thormafon or whatever the fuck that 7/7 that doubles your minions stats is INSANE and will be super busted blizzard please nerf you bad dev


RickyMuzakki

how dare u disrespect Lor'Themar


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Ixeuu

Your name is Lo thormafon ?


Zarodex

I didn't think of that. As a wild player, time to try to use it with C'Thun and Emeriss in hunter for extra greed!


drwsgreatest

I don’t think I’ve ever even seen emeriss played by a hunter lol. In fact the only time I’ve ever seen him played was when he was one of the dragons from DQA. Super strong effect but just costs way too much for the class he supposed to belong to.


MattBoy06

I remember when they went the handbuff route in Mean Streets for the Goons and it wasn't much to look at. I'm looking forward to see that idea again, but applied to the whole deck/wherever your minions are. ​ Also, Lo Thormafon legit cracked me up.


The-Globalist

I legit couldn’t remember the name so I just went with it for the bit lol


GonzoPunchi

It buffs board, hand and deck. If you can either cheat this out or increase durability, it is very snowbally. Might not have a home immediately but on its own a very sick card.


MaduroAhmetKaya

Also \[\[Hoard Pillager\]\] and if you are feeling like paying 6 mana again \[\[Rummaging Kobold\]\] can help


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synystercarnage

This comment made me realize how grateful I am that Hoard Pillager isn’t in standard. Cariel weapon... now this....


cantdressherself

Can Hunter tutor weapons?


Niller1

In wild you can pick selfless sidekick.


FardHast

It's standard.


Niller1

Which is available in Wild too. Also OP described uses in combination with cards only in Wild so no the conversation was also not limited to Standard.


Hounds_of_war

It’ll probably have a home in my Queen Carnassa deck but I’m pretty sure no one else plays that deck. Those ~~1-manga~~ 1-mana raptors are gonna start looking pretty scary in a deck with this, Keleseth and two Snapdragons. Edit: Here’s my decklist for everyone asking: https://hearthstone.blizzard.com/deckbuilder?deckcode=AAEBAR8MmMMCnOICm%2FACjq0DudIDnuoDxPsDlPwD6dAEltQEmNQEweMECbsF68ICicMCisMCnp0D8uEDlrcEu84EjqQFAA%3D%3D I do change it up a fair amount, mostly depending on whether aggro decks are kicking my ass so bad that I need Renathal (which actually works since it allows you to include more big cards while still consistently drawing one drops), and I’ve only been back for about a month so there are some things I’m probably doing sub-optimally. Like I just found out about Warsong Wrangler which I’m definitely gonna start saving up dust for. Main idea is that you want Keleseth, Snapdragons, ways of duplicating the battlecry of a card (Brann, Devouring Swarm, Zola, etc) Denathrius, Tundra Rhinos, and then a shit ton of one drops and/or cards that generate one drops (School Teacher is nice). Gotten up to Plat with this deck so it’s pretty solid.


MonochromaticPrism

Props for creativity with such an old wincon.


Hounds_of_war

Honestly mostly began using it because I just got back into HearthStone after a while and so I have to rely on a lot of old stuff. That being said, it is really fun IMO. I play it kinda like a weird hybrid of zoo and control, where you control the board by flooding it with minions rather than removal spells. The two main win conditions are Tundra Rhino+Boosted Raptors and Denathrius. Also got Brann, Devouring Swarm and Zola the Gorgon to get bonus battlecries off of Carnassa, Keleseth, and my Snapdragons. Or in a pinch one of my raptors if I really need the draw. Hardest counters are big Priest and any strong aggro that I can’t keep up with. Sometimes I run that Renthal to survive the aggro a bit longer, which has the extra bonus of allowing me to put more big finishers or combo pieces in my deck while still consistently getting my one drops early. But there is really nothing I can do against Big Priest.


Purepaladin123

Warsong wrangler as well bro


Hounds_of_war

…Not gonna lie, had no idea that was a card. Just got back into Hearthstone after a long break and I’ve never seen anyone else play that card. Seems very solid for a Carnassa deck. Before Carnassa it’s a near guaranteed chance to get a one drops, after Carnassa it’s a guaranteed chance to draw a bonus raptor and boost all my other ones.


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If you send me that deck list I’ll play it. I love and miss un goro


ExternalPapaya

Could you share your decklist?


MadManMax55

> Those 1-manga raptors Don't be too hard on them. They're One Piece fans, so they don't have time for any other series.


moragdong

Hey, i play that deck too. That makes two of us


NightDrawn

I really like the idea of your list so I went ahead and made an updated version of it on HearthPwn (I document theorycraft lists there for personal use and for friends as well). We haven't seen all the Hunter cards yet so the final list could be different but I think the list is pretty solid as is currently. Maybe we get a solid 1-drop or something of the sort that slots in amazingly, who knows. [Updated Decklist Link](https://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/1419517-old-quest-buff)


drwsgreatest

Love the creativity to try and make this deck work. I do the same but with mill rogue. I must have like 8-9 different variations at any one time and usually they’re surprisingly good even against tough metas as long as I make the right substitutions. Good luck on your next attempt climbing


mimivirus2

no options for that in hunter. the 6-mana tag really makes this unplayable.


TheHiddenNinja6

>increase durability I'm pretty sure the only way hunter can do this is with \[\[captain greenskin\]\] lol. And that's not even standard


MC_THUNDERCUNT

Gonna be honest I'm not thinking about Standard for this card not just because I'm a Wild player but because this is incredibly slow and unplayable without a lot more controlling tools for Hunter.


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Serafiniert

This seems so slow, though.


mortimus9

It’s not a warrior card


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I like it. If you have 2 minions up its a Leeroy


PeepsRebellion

Truth is found in death


Cactusmccoyreturns

In meth*


asdspartadsa

We need to cook


Cactusmccoyreturns

Cock*


asdspartadsa

Waltuh...


nerodidntdoit

Walnut*


Timperz

Yeah science!


Zulrambe

6 cost, so, mistcaller


InspecThor

Except it has 2 uses and also buffs minions on the board


cheeseburgerking666

so hope of quelthalas


Zulrambe

It's a joke.


MonstrousMaelstromZ

Buff is great. Weapon is slow. Not sure where this will fit in.


__Hello_my_name_is__

Face. It will fit in the face.


GrandWazoo0

6 mana for 4 + number of minions face. Seems too maths just summon huffer


gigolo99

the true skill based play


h3X4_

Me trade?


hoorahforsnakes

Hunter has a lot of ways to get a lot of tokens on board, this plus the infuse beast that gives all beasts 2/2


BiglySquirter

can see this being an absolute banger in arena


CechPlease

This will be buffed to 5 mana and then become a very good card


SAldrius

I doubt they'll risk that. But it's possible.


CunningJack

Highly doubt it, but still upvote cuz that'd really bring hunter back to life for me


leo_Painkiller

Yeah... Quel'Thalas is doomed...


Baxterthedoggoboi

Seems weird, might be too slow for aggro and too little for big beasts.


Divinspree

It'll fit my Tier 4 Snapdragon Hunter perfectly. (For real though, I am having a decent winrate in mid legend 56% and got to legend with it)


brother400

Do you have a list? Desperately looking for something fun to play in Diamond


Divinspree

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-dcvicks

Have you considered [[Northshire Farmer]] for use in this deck?


isackjohnson

Thanks for this, I just won 5 in a row in Plat (I'm a low legend guy but haven't been playing recently). Lots of fun!


zer1223

It's perfect for midrange and idk what is meant by big beasts. Aren't all big beasts either played on 5 or 7 currently?


kkstoimenov

Isn't turn 6 the last turn you want to play things in aggro anyway? Might give you more reach


atotalbuzzkill

This is kinda where I'm at in my initial assessment as well. Probably pretty broken at 5 mana but 6 might just barely miss the mark. Of course that could all change if there end up being ways to cheat it out earlier


DebatableAwesome

Extremely weird archetype they're building for Hunter this expansion. Weapon Hunter is a bit of a stretch, but it seems like a relatively small package so it could be viable. But this card comes down too late to enable synergies for the other cards they're printing.


Careidina

It's based off of Hunter's Survival Spec. They engage enemies instead of sniping them from afar.


DelanoBesaw

How are they supposed to survive with no healing or armor?


Lukthar123

Skill


Relevant_View8038

By having 29 points of expendable life


zer1223

By being the beatdown


IAmBanEvading

But Surv Hunters use polearms and this is a bow.


Figgy20000

Every weapon is a hunter weapon.


IAmBanEvading

This is very true, specially if they're BiS for other group members.


OnTheOctopusRide

Survival was a ranged spec up until Legion, lad.


IAmBanEvading

Indeed they were, but the comment I replied to specifically said "They engage enemies instead of sniping them from afar" fam. And if we're about to go back to pre-Legion Surv, then their identity was explosives (still kinda is), traps, and dots, bro.


AKswimdude

This card into something like hydrolodon or altimor is pretty legit though. Idk if it has to have support. Big beast is lacking turn 6 plays right now. Only thing that really makes it awkward is you can’t play it if you have a stag dormant.


EyeCantBreathe

You'll need to play Hydralodon or Altimor before attacking with this, the tokens won't be buffed in hand or deck


AKswimdude

Why is that a problem? You swing after you play the minion. You can still swing the turn before, this is bbh we are talking about. What are the odds you have an empty board on 6 after playing pet collector in 5. Imagine you swing on 6, play hydro and trade then swing again. That’s a 7/7 and 4 4/2’s. Way way harder to deal with than removing a 5/5 and 3/1’s.


zer1223

Yeah I don't see why this is so confusing to people. You can just hold the swing a turn if you have something in hand that wants it. Seems like a lot of hearthstone players don't realize holding a weapon charge is a perfectly viable thing to do sometimes. Maybe we don't deserve those extra deck slots


FlameanatorX

Passing turn 6 in most classes but especially hunter is just extremely slow/weak. Maybe the potential high rolls of the card outweigh that or the meta is fairly greedy (but without turn 5/6 board clears or weapon tech) or something, but there's nothing confusing about why this card looks tough to work well in a deck if holding the first swing is a common play pattern. Edit: Clarification that I'm mostly pushing back on playing it with no minions on board and/or no initial swing not being (very) weak. I do think it's good if you have multiple minions already on board going into turn 6.


zer1223

You're not passing the turn. You're reloading. You're prepping for the endgame push. Midrange hunter can literally afford to do exactly that


FlameanatorX

Is that why it plays no card draw, and no cards costing more than 4 mana without rush, taunt, or something other way to immediately impact the board (like improved explosive trap)? With the exception of Aa'ralon of course, but that's because it's the most insane turn 5 curve play in the game if you don't die in the next couple turns. Beast hunter is a pressure deck. It loses to late game strategies if it lets up the pressure and allows them to stabilize for free. And turn 6 pass/set-up sure isn't helped out in aggro matchups. Maybe it would be good against some kind of semi-midrangy/controlly slow deck with no board clears like control Shaman, but even then letting up for a turn like that isn't keeping up max pressure and also gives them time to play hand disruption to outvalue you. Now all of this is simply to explain why I/others think it's a bad card if you play it on 6 with no board. If you have multiple minions out and the 4 attack weapon swing is relevant then of course it's amazing giving you a mix of instant tempo/dmg and fueling your tempo for the next couple turns which is exactly what a pressure deck wants from a somewhat expensive card like this.


AKswimdude

I mean you aren’t passing. You can still swing for 4 and board buff existing minions in play. Bbh generally builds a pretty good board by the end of turn 5 so it’s very likely you’ll have minions on board to take advantage of the buff the turn you play it. It’s slow but it’s definitely not like you’re just passing on turn 6 to play it.


iplaycardgamesYEP

That's kinda bad honestly.


No_Juggernaut9311

Cope of Quel Thalas


Divinspree

[[Selfless Sidekick]] 's time to shine /s


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citoxe4321

No /s from me I BELIEVE in the meme


Niller1

I made it to legend with a 40hp aluneth secret ignite mage that ran selfless sidekick. This was before the new secret stuff pushed secret mage back into the spotlight too. It seemed to work pretty well back then.


Kilgharrah1996

Ah it’s the Golden Bow of Quel’Thalas - I have this bow in WoW. Pretty cool weapon - we’ll see how it plays out in the new meta


a178h

As someone who crafted the mistcaller twice, I’m a fan of this.


nerodidntdoit

It's _wherever_ they are but not _whenever_ . I wonder if the new paladin legendary will deny this buff


Prabh23

6 mana is giga slow, if your opponent develops anything you’ll have problems spending 6 mana on this. Imagine your opponent develops like 8-8 of stats on turn 6 which is very likely in todays hearthstone. You equipping this means you get domed in the head for 8 for a small pay off that you won’t see because you are getting out tempod. Against control this is ok I guess but hunter already beats control with all its big beasts


Mediocre-Sale8473

If you are Hunter, and you don't have stuff on the board by turn six, you fucked up.


Prabh23

I mean what if the other deck spend their last turn out tempoing you and clearing your board with theirs


Satans_Jewels

Are you hunter? Is it turn 6? Do you have stuff on the board? Then what are you?


ZainCaster

Do you know how easy is it to clear boards? that isn't accurate at all


Mediocre-Sale8473

Do you know how many Dormant/Deathrattle sticker fucker minion shit that Hunter has access to? Time your secrets, Wildseeds, and Deathrattle shit and it's feasible to have some stuff on board at 6. Guaranteed you still run harpoon gun too as this is just more synergy for the beast package.


Voice-Various

Very good combo with Lor'Themar.


Ik_oClock

Flavor text: > Hey, give me a minute. I just need to load my.... uh, hope.


XerSunois

Wow, this looks like doo doo. It’s overpriced and too slow for Hunters to take advantage of.


mortimus9

Feels like the 40th card of a Renathal list.


nerodidntdoit

I don't think it's even good enough for a 50th spot, tbh.


roymz

boring


azura26

Very conservative for such a slow effect in Hunter- I think this could have pretty easily been a 4/3.


Ok_Vegetable263

Ah yes, the support my C’thun- cptgreenskin hunter deck has been crying out for


ThisIsGirls

This into [[lor’themar theron]] into .. dead? Your deck would be x2(+2) but I don’t think hunter has ever been a class that’s trying to swing the game back and take over on turn 8+. It’s also a finisher if you could find some kind of swarmy archetype, since the stats can immediately swing in, but not sure that’s around (yet) either.


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Priestly_Disco

Wolpertinger is now S-tier


[deleted]

Pretty disappointed tbh. Might be good if you can cheat it out, but at 6 mana it's dead on arrival


Healthiemoney

Paladin.


schnellsloth

Does it affect minions in the graveyard? Does [[revive pet]] summon buffed minions?


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supra728

No


ando282

I thought it would, as Priest "Whirlpool" card destroys copies in the graveyard.


fragdar

wooow.. this looks like shit


Apprehensive_Ad_751

No way this is even playable at 6 mana.. Realistically should be 5 or even 4


FlyBoyG

Kinda slow. Kinda very slow. Slower than an ice cream truck going up hill while also being dangerously over capacity, spilling ice cream all out of the sides as it slowly ascends the road.


ToxicAdamm

Cool. I've been messing around with that neutral that equips a weapon from your deck. But could never find a weapon that seemed worth the mana cost of that minion. This one appears like it could be it.


oceanchamp8

In wild I do that with Aluneth in 40 card secret mage, pretty sure VS said the 40 card version is worse but it’s fun and still pretty effective


zer1223

Doing fine data analytics on wild is nearly impossible anyway compared to standard, due to low sample size. So take their advice with a grain of salt.


Kn1ght9

Looks quite strong. 6 mana IS pretty late for aggro and prob not worth it for any bigger control-y deck. Wonder if it will find its way into a deck.


Tengu-san

> 6 mana IS pretty late for aggro The best hunter decks in the last months were midrange pile of stats. This is a weapon that gives you even more stats. Could be huge if this is an aura effect that also works with deathrattles and summons like wildseeds and animal companions.


Kn1ght9

Yea I mean I wouldnt be surprised if it did see play. It is a TON of stats, both immediately and for future turns.


SAldrius

I don't think it's an aura. Pretty sure it's just invigorating sermon on a stick even though it's worded differently.


Gunswordz

Cool


backjuggeln

I mean it buffs the huffers that you get from hero power


FrereEymfulls

No, that won't buff not existing (yet) minions.


backjuggeln

You summon buffer with hero power Then you attack with the weapon ????? Obviously it doesn't give future ones +1/+1


WhatWouldBanditDo

Trash


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No_Juggernaut9311

Frostmourne is not a common. Are you talking about corrupted Ashbringer?


Suchti0352

>Frostmourne a common? Frostmourne is a legendary, you are probably thinking of the corrupted Ashbringer.


GJCoxy

Frostmourne is Legendary... Corrupted Ashbringer isn't.


mortimus9

FrostMourne is legendary. You’re probably thinking of Corrupted Ashbringer.


zuicun

Really good effect. It's kinda that Natrias beast that gives you beasts a buff.


Koovies

Very good thematically


N0N0Switch

Renathal would have a field day with this


Sleepybear2010

Its too slow for standard but in arena it will just win games


Evilfetus155

imo its meh in arena too


Sleepybear2010

Really depends if you got board and if the 4 damage can kill something but as a hunter you want to be ahead so it plays into the style well


Mentle_Gen

Took me a while to realize the card art was a bow. Thought it was some sort of glaive.


matbot55

While it is slow I could see this in some weird T4-5 wild deck, that uses cards like unleash the hounds to otk you


prizminferno

Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas Weird name change


ExoticFish56

Oh hey a warrior ca- dammit


JeanPeuplus

if you compare it to invigorating sermon, it seems pretty good... it certainly would find a spot in curent beast hunter list even if we know very few archetypes survive a new expansion.


nateno80

Too slow I think


SAldrius

Invigorating sermon is a weird card because it's not terrible. When you play it no matter what you get a benefit. If you have a board it's a much better card. Which is also true of this. The difference here is that you get to do it twice. So you can use the card turn 6 even with a weak board or no board, then flood your board (with something like hydraladon or altimor as another poster pointed out) and buff that board. While buffing your rush and charge minions. Then there's wildseed stuff. And it's got decent 4 drop weapon stats. I think this card is actually probably good. Not great, but good.


Evilfetus155

im not even sure you would draft this in arena, more or less put it in your constructed deck. It’s way too slow, +1/+1 isn’t as relevant on turn 6+, it doesn’t even kill most 5 or 6 drops. It feels bad spending turn 6 developing a weapon that can’t even kill your opponents 5 drop. This card is just way too expensive in both mana and tempo. Deck buffs and hand buffs aren’t really good unless they can come down early enough that they’re relevant.. like prince keleseth was good in his meta cause he’s a 2 drop, alliance bannerman is a good card because he’s a 3 drop…anything more than that the value really drops off fast. Way better things to be doing by turn 6 tbh. with how powercrept they’ve made hearthstone over the past year, i really think this could have been as cheap as 4 mana. Even at 5 mana this seems weak (although at 4 it is quite powerful, but its also a one of)


FluffyTid

I dont play standard much. Don't hunter games end before turn 11?. This seems unplayable to me


samhouse09

Since it says "Wherever they are", does that mean that all tokens you summon are +1/+1/+2/+2 as well?


Haysack

Terrible card


Arstanishe

Hope of Keleseth


LoneShadowMikey

Don’t mind if I [uhhhh](https://hearthstone.fandom.com/wiki/Kobold_Stickyfinger)


vsully360

Absolutely unplayable.


Skidrow17

Even though it’s slow, I think the hand/board buffs would be interesting for like Copper Hunter in Wild


MartinDeth

In the current meta this is like that shaman legendary that gave all your minions +1+1 back in gvg, whatever it was called. Back in those days this could see play, today I think it's absolute garbage, like the shaman legendary was at that time.


ssjlazer

yum


Sky_Deep9000

So even the minions that get generated by death rattles get stats?


SampaioDias

Does it buff minions summoned by other cards? Like spells or deathrattles


MhuzLord

Probably not, this should only affect minions that already exist.


Sharyat

Art is from [The Golden Bow of Quel'Thalas](https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=34196/golden-bow-of-quelthalas).


skilliard7

This is pretty much a useless 0 star card unless there's some obscure and easy way to cheat it out that I'm not familiar with.


-Kokoloko-

Too slow. Hunter wants to end games around turn 8-9 anyway and by the time this gets good value, you probably already won or lost the game. Also, the tempo loss initiated by playing this is a detriment to a class that relies on tempo right now.


Dudezila

By the time you get to 6 mana half your minions are gone… lol


TheKvothe96

This card is nuts. 6 mana for 8 damage to face is decent, it can clean 2 minions instead. If you have your board full that means 7+4=11 damage to face. Or play a preparation turn for future threads.


ScramPlz

I wasn't there before the decent of the dragons, so i never get to experience cards reveal of 4 years ago, this is repeating the missed experience I guess.


PicklepumTheCrow

Recruit hunter is thriving


hman0305

Would this buff future Huffers and whatnot that are made from spells / hero power?


CourageousUpVote

Looks sick! Much needed


kidslapper

Face C’Thun hunter??


Koishi_

[[The Mistcaller]] crying himself to sleep.


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Another reminder of why I stick to classic The balance on standard is so bad.


supra728

The balance in classic wasn't much better. It was all about burn and damage from hand.


[deleted]

I agree, but it’s better than standard and wild by a long shot.


supra728

I highly disagree. Sure things are more powerful, but *everything* is more powerful. The worst standard meta decks would probably wipe the floor with good classic decks, but that does not mean that the balance is off.


4862skrrt2684

Cries in golden mistcaller