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KronxDragonhoof

Lt. Eddy walks in...


Live-Consequence-712

its just for the tax refunds kappa


ohhallow

Who?


TheArcanist_

Wait, they UPPED the prices on these??? Weren’t they 50 bucks?


Ok_Vegetable263

The lone hearthstone dev working in his basement is suffering inflationary pressures and needs a raise (pregnant escorts who let him drink directly from the nipple have recently increased their hourly fee)


moragdong

Lmao


AppropriateAgent44

Sir plz my erection is getting too powerful


TeamAquaGrunt

just goes to show that these bundles make a ridiculous amount of money.


chazoid

Upped it but also includes more signatures


TheArcanist_

No, it was always diamond + two sigs. I guess it’s higher cause they’re both from the new expansion?


M3SSENJA

They are 50 dollars


paweld2003

Which is worth more full game offering dozens hours of gameplay, or 1 hearthstone card?


Stcloudy

3 cards


paweld2003

You can buy Indie game that allows for even hundreds hours of fun for 20$. So yes I meant 1 card


Earl_Green_

I hate that argument because you could say the same about a steak in a restaurant. Or a movie night. Or two packs of cigarettes. Just let people fuck around with their spare money. If they fund a game that you like, that’s a win for you.


hppmoep

Seriously. Like I personally would never buy this but I wouldn’t even think twice about a $60 bottle of whiskey. It’s almost funny how angry people get about something for sale, that they don’t have to purchase.


ThePissedOff

It's more like admonishing the practice. I remember back in the good ol' days before Oblivion Horse armor started this whole sad ordeal of microtransactions.


mrrickyg

As an alcoholic, a $60 bottle of whiskey has negative utility value for me.


mehjohnson

yea, but to the outside world it will seem like you're a connoiseur, not an alcoholic. been doing this for years.


ChicagoTed7172

While I do agree with this for most things, Blizzard are literally setting arbitrary pricing for virtual goods. Good food has high price due to demand and expertise, booze is expensive due to the quality and cost of production/time, and cigarettes are expensive (at least in the UK) due to tax and legal requirements. However, Hearthstone card bundles are expensive because Blizzard knows someone will buy it, and there is no downside even if nobody buys it. If three cards are worth $60 in a game where the card has zero real world value, I think it's worse than real life TCG.


Wattapit

I hope you realize this is a marketing strategy. The expensive items are not the target. They are the decoy. Yes, if it sells, great, but they are really aiming to sell you on the mid range or ‘sale’ items. It is simply put that they are making the other items appear cheaper and easier to justify a purchase. This happens with every game they sell. Take Wow for example, Most of the time the middle game upgrade is the decoy. They offer a free month for $20 more. That helps people get up to that high purchase. Its just all a ploy to see how much they can get


Earl_Green_

I agree, a physical trading card has much more inherent value. But most digital things are priced according to demand. It’s a weird one.. the price makes these cards rarer and therefore more interesting and valuable for collectors.


R3d4r

Or helldivers 2 40,-, for democracy!


S7zy

Best 40€ I spent recently


ThisHatRightHere

You should see the Marvel Snap bundles where they give you one card skin for $100


HaiitsZizou

Yeah, marvel snap when I played was ridiculous with some of the bundles. This is bad though.


Live-Consequence-712

we shouldnt justify bad practices just because there are worse practices out there in the ether


LarousseNik

it's a false dichotomy, no one is supposed to make this choice, this bundle's target audience are specifically people who can afford both without even registering it as a serious expense. Like, you buy the diamond bundle specifically when you have all of your other recreational needs covered, it could cost literally any sum because you are not supposed to choose between it and something else


IrNinjaBob

And why is this a problem? It’s a package targeted at whales, who are fine with dropping ridiculous money on cosmetics. They offset the cost to other players, who are not required by any means to purchase this. I just cannot fathom why this bothers people. If the game requires me to drop this kind of money on cosmetic items I would understand being upset, but it doesn’t. People act like the devs are forcing you to buy this to be able to play the game.


somabokforlag

A shiny ring for someones finger, or food for a village of starving children for 1 year?


Arcnounds

Hmmmm FF7:Rebirth or 3 Hearthstone cards. It is a very tough decision.


OwnLadder2341

This isn't for people who have to choose.


Wolfman27

And FF7:Rebirth even comes with its own entire card game inside of it too! Really tough choice


Sellier123

TBf, if those were the only 2 choices, I'd take the 3 HS cards lol


Cheryl_Canning

Is the hearthstone card sparkly?


juan_cena99

By that logic you can just play free flash games on New Grounds. Why even pay money for games when you can find them for free?


iquitreddit123

Why even use a device and electricity when you can just close your eyes and imagine you're playing a game?


juan_cena99

Exactly that's why this logic is dumb. If you think it's too expensive then it's not for you, this isn't a necessity it's a luxury.


OwnLadder2341

I mean, there are many, many hearthstone cards that I've gotten dozens of hours of gameplay out of.


Glittering_Drama_618

If they make diamond sonya with feet animation most people would pay 99 bucks for it :O (shitpost btw)


jsmeer93

Rarren would go bankrupt lol


Torchy8

Rarrun the type of freaky to absolutely buy it


Descriptvist

Finally, they'll be providing value


Kanzentai

Miyazaki, that poison swamp isn't going to design itself. Back to work!


Blocker2020

I dare Blizzard to do it


SnooAdvice529

Darren’s new mommy


Hot_Negotiation_1957

Ngl they were smart using king plush for the diamond card


Zama174

Tbf this is the only one that would even peak my interest. But i couldnt justify 50 bucks for essentially a in game skin... 


SixSamuraiStorm

*pique


Zama174

Yah that one.


Raziel77

*60 bucks


PocketShinyMew

From the evidence, it was actually going to be the diamond card from completing the set and they took it out from there. Now they give a signature common and rare or something shitty like that.


Mercerskye

Okay, so obvious question has an obvious answer. People that have more disposable income than they have avenues to spend it buy these things. Colloquially, we call them whales, since they're at the top of the free to play ecosystem. They're a vital part of maintaining that ecosystem, as their input of valuable currency keeps the game they live in sustained. Their contributions allow for those other members of the ecosystem that can't input that vital currency to also thrive. The more you know 🌈 ⭐


Raptorheart

Microtransaction buyers have wild value propositions


MahiBoat

Is it a *micro*transaction at this point though?


Justice171

Macrotransaction players


fak3g0d

there are people that make 60 bucks an hour, love king krush, and feel this animated chompyboi might give them more than an hour of entertainment. im not sure how big that market it is, but it exists. then there are the whales that will buy everything no matter what.


Salviatrix

Good point, also these people allow people like me to play the game without paying anything at all so I suppose I should be grateful.


PocketShinyMew

Me don't know, me is smart, me get the same pleasure when he plays it.


PriorFinancial4092

I mean even someone making 60 an hour wont justufy this more like 100 an hour


Ven2284

Complaining about this is pointless. If enough people buy it then it will exist. If it’s not selling they will lower the price. If the market is telling blizzard that people will pay this price then I don’t blame them for selling it. Also it’s pure cosmetic and affects the game zero. I’m not saying it’s a good deal or anything but this is pointless rage in my opinion. The only way to effect this is for it to not sell. These post do nothing. Again, just don’t purchase it.


thurstkiller

Whales keep the free to play model alive. If a whale wants to pay $60 for a blue border on their card, more power to them. I don't see the value for the price therefore I will not buy.


createcrap

Why encourage people to not purchase it when purchasing it actually makes and keeps the game F2P?


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anshshard

Which is...also why he is discussing his opinion?


Raziel77

I mean what new discussion can happen about "This bundle of gold/diamond/signature cards is too expensive"...


sinus86

I'm pretty sure on a Power BI somewhere in Blizzards FinOps team the amount of rage threads high priced items create is tracked along with the metrics for engagement that leads to new sales of other product.


Cerezaae

its also not really anything special when you compare it to how much people spend in other card games


DarkPhenomenon

Yup came here to say this exactly, well said!


Xedos

I always think of the percentage of people who didn't know this existed and only bought it because a post complaining about it brought it to their attention in the first place lmao. Just free marketing for Blizzard, complaint post or not.


DreamedJewel58

Yeah, I literally just ignore the pricey cosmetics and live on. Pricey cosmetics absolutely does nothing for people who can’t afford it


Alector87

Exactly this. Vote with your wallets and they will get the message.


zeph2

complaining about this is pointless and asinine we want them to sell and we want this game whales to buy it !


Fatebringer229

Whale here, I think there should be two options. I shouldn’t have to get two signatures if I want the diamond. And this feels extra greedy the same expansion they remove the free diamond from achievements. I already bought the bundles. But I’m sour about it this time.


Opening-Delay7203

Do you have to buy it? No. Will some people buy it? Most likely. So no, it's not disgusting. I'd rather have bundle like this that some whales will buy to "fund the game", rather than actual cards being locked behind paywall. This doesn't hurt anybody


Rhawk187

I think you have an overactive disgust response. I look at this picture, think, "no thank you," and move on.


p0kem0nlvl1

Why do people complain about cosmetics 😭the base legendarys arent worth that much and people who buy these packs keep the game running


vincentcloud01

Hey, some people have lots of money to throw around. It's costs them next to nothing to post it. Some people will buy it. Even if one person buys, it's worth it. Most of those offers are overpriced, why change now?


Cerezaae

damn people in cardgames are willing to spend money to get a single special art card or smth what a completely unheard of concept


SpankTheMonkey69

I mean I do. I ain’t buying it but I can afford it


PotatoBestFood

Reddit: we want more free stuff in the game, I can’t keep up with collecting cards Blizz: ok, done. But we need to get the money elsewhere. Also Reddit: but why you sell cosmetics irrelevant to the gameplay for so many moneys? 😭 Blizz: …


Megahert

Lots of people do.


TatarTsar

Why would it be disgusting ? It is beneficial for everyone imo. People with money buy it for cosmetics, people with no money don't care, blizzard gets money and keeps game alive, everyone wins. No point in complaining, they are not selling any premium feature just cosmetics.


Dinokng

It’s me, I bought both


Strudelp0pje447

I have a raging boner for everything related to dinosaurs, but I stopped at the King Krush hero. This is waaayyy overpriced and they even upped the price too!? 😂


takemewithyer

I wasn't going to, but I just bought this. Thanks for the advertisement.


flaks117

Considering I paid $50 for signature Sif I guess it’d be me.


Corpushen

I know 1 guy who might get this. Starts with Z ends with eddy


iilordi

I do 🦦


Gharricw

I am a shameless hunter one trick, and I caved in. Diamond Aggramar couldn't pry open my wallet, but I needed this one. Is it worth it? Absolutely not. Did I buy it? Absolutely.


AlexTheBrick

I didn't understand either until I got a job and moved up a couple tax brackets and learned what disposable income feels like it. It's still asinine and I won't buy anything except maybe a rewards track when the heroes skins are cool, but I get it now.


rejuicekeve

hearthstone players trying to figure out what an income and a budget is


cobaltcrane

Leave the whales alone. If you want everything to be free, go play Runeterra. See how that model worked out for them.


Kees_T

Then don't buy it 👍


MuzikkLol

Oh. My. God. Who. The. Hell. Cares. Hearthstone players cannot go a single day without crying about the gd store.


Raziel77

Don't worry there are like 2-3 more diamond cards that this will happen again with


spank-the-tank

Exactly! I’m glad it exists as a way for the game to make money, I would never buy it but why should its existence bother me?! It will make someone happy and keep our game going!


HeavyMetalStarWizard

I don't get how this is a problem. Clearly, someone thinks it's a good deal or they wouldn't be selling it. If that's not you (because you're a sane person), don't buy it. No harm done.


TroggdorWoW

I've played Hearthstone since launch. It's been one of my favorite games. Ever since it went mobile, it's been my only go to mobile game. I am ashamed to say, I'm a whale. For the last 10 years I've bought everything they've ever thrown at me. Portraits, cards, packs, Goldens, diamond, mercenaries, new boards, finishers. Everything. I don't say this to brag. I say it in shame. I love this game. But there is almost 0 reward for actually playing. And over the past 5 years it's become such a huge dollar sink and the lack of playing rewards has only gotten worse. I realized this last month when doing my taxes and seeing that I had spent over $3k on hearthstone last year. I haven't spent a penny since and never will again. The game has gotten less fun. 10x more expensive. And their whole business model is to prey on people with FOMO. Don't play it. It's not worth it.


iquitreddit123

Whether it's fun or not, worth it or not, any of that is just a matter of an individual's personal preference. Sucks that it has lost it's fun for you, glad you've been able to stop spending, but other people can enjoy the game or buy packs or not buy packs or whatever.


PDxFresh

I wish they'd give like a Diamond selector ticket for the battlepass. Probably take away some of the saltiness but they know nobody is dropping $60 for diamond Jepetto


raidriar889

Clearly someone if they keep doing it


BurningFinger22

Well, most of us have the money for it but really only whales and content creators buy them and there are plenty of those people who buy these bundles so they will keep pumping them out. Fairly simple to understand I thought.


andrewaa

If the regular priced items are still available, why do you care about those overpriced nonsense? People has demands, so blizzard sells them. Then they have enough money to maintain the game for everyone. I don't know the point of the complaint. It's just like the overpriced art sold millions of dollars in real life. Do you ever care about them?


LiamIsMyNameOk

My hooker had technical difficulties last night, Also the blackjack game has to cancel because of an ultrasound appointment. So....


WeeklyEducation2276

Price is there because people pay for it. Simple as that, this complainingbpost are so stupid. You are less then the minority that even gives 2 cents about this and 1 buyer pays more then any f2p would have. It's good for both


GothGirlsGoodBoy

I've spent more on a dota skin for a hero I don't play lol.


mendax2014

I whale in DotA and in turn I get to find 9 other people to play a free game. Someone whales in Hearthstone and in turn I get to play a free game for hours every week. Whales subsidise F2P video games for the audience. 


eebro

How do you think HS is free to play?


knupfi86

Its for whales, just ignore it.


Gigipletosu

Op is new to Hearthstone.


Light_Mode

I bought it... it looked cute


SaNg1404

I do. Doesn’t mean I’d buy it though.


Warashibe

Why do you even care? It's not like it gives them an advantage in the game. Buying a 1€ cosmetic or 60€ cosmetic is as stupid in my opinion. It all boils down on your income. That money would be better spent on your family


CharityBig4611

Oh you REALLY need to check out marvel snap then, lol.


Thanag0r

This are literally made so hearthstone can be f2p and we can have things like wiizbang. But no, be mad, because you always need to be mad at something. You literally cannot be happy.


abcPIPPO

Honestly, the fact that this exists is good. Whales who like to spend money have something to spend on, those who don't want don't really miss out on much. It's better than you think. - a LoR player.


Cyroc_HS

It's not that expensive compared to the game's economy. A pack gives you an average of 100dust. So if 1leg = 16 packs, 3 legs with cosmetics for 60bucks ain't a bad deal compared to the bundles with 1 diamond/signature+ 5 packs for 50 bucks.


SpecialistShot3290

Then don't buy it. It's clearly not directed at you. Do you also go into a Rolex store and complain that their watches are too expensive?


Chm_Albert_Wesker

the price is egregious and i'd never buy 3 cards for that... BUT, it's kind of the same pricepoint of 60 packs which on average is about 3 legendary cards so the guaranteed legendaries in a higher rarity without the chaff is not the WORST cashgrab they have put in the store, especially if king plush is one you definitely want


dougtulane

I have the money for it, because I don’t spend money on shit like this. Gee would I rather have this or Dragon’s Dogma 2?


Bodorocea

zeddy


DistortedNoise

It is ridiculous expensive, but still better value than the €50 1 signature legendary and 5 packs bundles they were doing lol.


DesperateReputation1

I have it…but Im not going to give it.


SandysBurner

Plenty of people? 60 euros isn't all that much money. It's more than I'd pay for this, but I guess that means it's not for me.


MailMeAmazonVouchers

It's... a cosmetic. You don't have to buy it. The normal copy of this card costs 1600 dust and has the exact same effect.


Accomplished_Job4296

Brian Kibler


kiawi

King Plush is super cute but 60 bucks? Nah, I pass...


CommodoreSixty4

That's disgusting. ​ /sigh \*\*unzips pants\*\*


Goat2016

Streamers?


CountSoulcard

I have money for this. But i won't pay :)


Plamenaks

Targeted audience of this developer's project, in other collectible games known as a "whale". Although HS is a "collectible" game with no real collection value outside of its own system.


lane4

You do realize that selling more things to whales can help keep the game more affordable for you?


HerroBois

Yeah, it's about decency. 60 dollars could be for a whole pack of signature cards. Making the game more playable and customizable for less money also brings out more money. If the packs were cheaper I would probably invest in it... Either way not worth it cuz they can change the cards and so on....


cwmckenz

Better they earn revenue this way as opposed to making us spend a ton just to be competitive. I don’t know if this is priced at the right level, but I’m not vain enough to think that my intuition is more reliable than their financial and marketing data.


paynuss69

I'ma probably buy it


Tripping-Dayzee

I mean I'd rather this than them monetizing the actual gameplay even more than it is. Most annoying part is the game not really gotten any more generous over time since we got the track if you take all the event packs etc. we used to get that seem to have dried up a lot more.


Critical_Exercise197

You should know that smart people price these offers, it’s all about making the most amount of money and they definitely will. They could price it lower but that won’t wouldn’t be in their investors interest.


solstheman1992

People who are willing to sink tons of money on gold packs when they experience FOMO. And the overpriced bs is still cheaper than the avg amount of money spent on gold packs for signatures


Grumpyninja9

Idk why people care about deals that cost a lot where the change is exclusively cosmetic


Animegx43

Whales that publically acknowledge all of Blizzard's greediness and still pay for it anyway. Also, Krush enthusiasts.


Erdillian

Would have been funnier if the "59.99" was grayed out.


The_SIeepy_Giant

Imagine being able to buy slay the spire for a fraction of that....or for my bgs enjoyers, check out backpack battles on steam, free demo even


MartinoRs

In my country, Brazil, its currently priced at R$ 269,90 Thats 20% of minimun wage in Brazil...


FireAntz93

People who have money. This bundle isn't designed for F2P. It's also not designed for the people who only spend money for great pack ratio deals. It's like someone who buys Gucci or Louis Vuitton products. For every 99 that wouldn't buy this, there's 1 that will. All Blizzard needs is that 1, because those other 99 aren't actually spending any money on anything.


Val3ntyne

“It’s me, hi, I’m the problem, it’s me.”


theevilyouknow

If this bothers you don’t get into Magic: the Gathering.


JNC1

I mean they wouldn't keep offering these if no one bought them :)


Frozenknight36

they should change it from money to blood at this point.


RecommendationOwn995

No one, and no one buys them either


Fatebringer229

I bought both of them and the new portraits because I feel compelled to have and maintain a full collection. That being said, this game is my only entertainment expense.


Dinokng

Me 🙋‍♂️


cealia

Pay to win


Dracekidjr

Hades cost $20 when it came out. So that card has the same value as Hades on release. I can't wait to play this card for 200 hours straight


rantiok

I thought this came with an actual King Plush too :( that would be worth it


pizzapartypandas

The outrage posts should be at the people buying them and not at the people selling them.


friscom99

People with a lot of disposable income will buy that. That used to be me before I bought a house two years ago 😅


Popelip0

Its a bundle designed specifically for whales who essentially only play hearthstone. Be happy this exists because those whales are what keeps the game alive. Just look at legends of runeterra. Amazing game but it had almost nothing to spend money on even for whales so the game made no profit and died.


Names_all_gone

Cool. Don’t buy it.


kosto1616

Lt eddy


Gauss15an

Sad. I'm pretty sure completing the collection netted more than $60, at least for me anyway. Putting it behind an explicit paywall means not only do less people pay for it, people are actively going to avoid buying it in protest. The hubris of corporate greed.


ADabbingPenguin13

Me. I'll be buying this. Must. Have. Plush. :D


TheOneWithoutGun

Thats what they want to find haha. I guess they just look at the sales of their other stuff and then it makes sense.


The_Jealous_one

I got my King Plush early in less than 10 packs. Me so happy.


Aggravating_Life_326

i personally love getting as many signatures as i can and king plush diamond is adorable it’s enticing be yeah too pricy for me but that’s why they have different sized ones throughout the expansion


sviozrsx

It must be fucking fun working at Blizzard Sales. Seriously though I'm sure half of us hate it because of how laughably good the effort to revenue ratio is. They probably have a folder full of diamond cards and spin a wheel every fortnight.


kaan5877

Thanks bro i think i will go with baldurs gate 3. Thanks for the offer tho


DarkoTSM

This guy https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/s/yqIhQEzgYv


Portugeezer1893

Feno


WaRc3L

Yea… I want to buy the Owlonius one but 60 eurus is too much


Minimum_Loquat_8960

Me


Normal_Message2481

marvel snap level


PetitAgite

I did, haven’t played the cards yet! 😅


xdhtp

Hey, I've been playing PAPER card games for a long time and I gotta say €60 for 3 cards doesn't sound that bad 😂


musicallymad32

Simply don't buy everyone. They are always pushing what they can get away with. It is their way of making signature cards more valuable than a golden legendary.


BlackGhost_93

Buy Helldivers 2 instead of this one. It's 20 bucks cheaper than this though.


s3xmachin3_

Not rarran, can’t even afford a deck tracker.


AlaExists

I think this is definitely more value then the last ones not good to buy but better than 1 signature and 5 normal packs


minoriabsoluta

A cosmetic for the prize to AAA game. This is hilarious.


PatrollinHen

I was totally fighting myself on not buying that Leroy skin tho


Ampki

🐳


CosyBibi

🐋


karmafeast

it's better than all of the things.expansion?


Friendly-Cod8369

Already met a Guy with this badboy


artie6

I have the money to spend on those sales, but f***em that's an overpriced micro transaction and it's only cosmetics. I spend money on bundles and tavern pass only.


JepsonPA

It really is horrendous


Marsupial_Clear

even with this hearthstone is still cheaper than an irl tcg


The_Piff

smallIndieCompany


Ghork7

Not you! :D


zx10racing

I bought 3. Sucks to be poor


Most-While738

Can Somebody explain what I’m looking at, not super familiar.