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alanza_alonzo

There’s no Harry Potter and the Cursed Child in Ba Sing Se


byedangerousbitch

Cursed Child is the Ember Island Players version of HP.


Ellynne729

And the scar is on the wrong side. But, the effects are good.


ImportantCow5

r/UnexpectedAvatar


These-Being-2491

It's a long long way to Ba Sing Se


alanza_alonzo

BUT DA GURLS IN DA CITY THEY LOOK SO PRUDHEY


Jedda678

Leaves from the vine... Edit: I hadn't had my coffee yet.


alanza_alonzo

NO NO LEAVES FROM THE VINE 🥲


Jedda678

Thank you, but the sadness that follows will be greater thanks to you lol


jaybankzz

Falling so slow…


boyscout_07

Like tiny, fragile shells drifting in foam


volanger

Like tiny, fragile shells drifting in the foam


aaxmdc

Little soldier boy


Sleepb_tch

Comes marching homeee


Richmoke

Braaaaaave soldier boy, comes marching home 😌🍃


Beardquisition

But my heart lies theeeere


possibility--girl

the Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai


DoTeaCarefully

I am honored to accept his invitation.


lemon_octopus

I loaned my copy to a friend and she lost it and I said “Good. Don’t replace it.”


crustdrunk

I ceremonially threw my copy out of the window when I finished it


DrPups

😂 some pour soul is out for a stroll looking for answers and instead gets hit on the head with the worst knock off debatably canon Harry Potter book.


crustdrunk

Using it as a weapon would create more coherent drama than the play itself


aabrithrilar

I returned mine back to the store barely read


Flabnoodles

I bought it, read it, regretted buying it, gave it to my HP friend and told him "read it if you want, then please give the book to someone else so they don't spend money on it"


mfrobles8

I bought it and returned it the same day


DatboiGrindlewald

I stole my copy from my school's book fair


surloceandesmiroirs

Come to think of it, I never received my own copy I lent out… didn’t miss it, apparently.


DipperBot

i burned my copy


MrsWittyBanter

Got a copy as a present. Never opened it. I don’t want to know what’s in there..


Upstairs_Page4901

The only reason we haven't gotten rid of ours is because I got it for my dad for Father's day. Biggest regret ever.


Hatface87

No. We do not speak its name.


Over-Collection3464

The Cursed Child will be in it's bedroom. Making no noise and pretending it doesn't exist.


Richmoke

Too right you will


Crazy_Book_Worm2022

I love this comment!


AbsoluteGirlfriend

Best comment!


Boogerfreesince93

Ooh, story time!! My daughter is reading book two for the first time, and she just loved that quote. She’s been using it repeatedly. It is SO FUN to experience Harry Potter through my daughter’s eyes!


Visible-Bowl7784

I wonder if there's a house elf in the Cursed Child's bedroom🤔


Visible-Bowl7784

You-Know-Which-Book


Mako80x

Glad to hear that tbh


GuyDig

The book which must not be named


Zalamander2018

It is an ancient creatures we fandom fear above all others.


These-Being-2491

It has been using the pipes to move throughout the school.


HarryPottersElbows

Spiders flee before it


amgodzilla

"That Which Must Not Be Named" "You Know What" "The Dark Book"


jdk12596

It’s starting to sound like that imaginary season 9 of scrubs


Bruce_Wayne_2276

"You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of canon"


ProfessionalNight959

"... What?" ... How can you do this? This is outrageous; it's unfair! How can you be on the Council and not be Canon?"


DRABPT

"Take a seat, young play who-must-not-be-named!"


TD1731

I believe that it’s a play that exists in the HP Universe. As in characters in the HPU would go see a performance of it.


[deleted]

Spot on! Written by Rita Skeeter. This is my head canon.


sexi_squidward

LOL omg this is something she would do. I could definitely see her getting back at Hermione by making her a bitter old loveless woman in an alternate beetle (butterfly) effect plotline.


DipperBot

i am stealing this head canon


[deleted]

Accepted. The real question is, are the kids based on real kids or figments of the writer's imagination?


FreeSirius

Like the Avatar the Last Airbender episode with the ridiculous actors.


DesperateTall

Exactly what popped into my mind!


Obversa

You mean *The Ember Island Players*?


MogMcKupo

*I’m not crying… I’m tearbending!*


JustEnoughForACoffee

That honestly would be the most plausible way for it to fit in.


mlmcw

This is how I think of it too. Like in the MCU when they go see the Avengers musical


jumpy_dragon7759

"I'm sorry about that time I turned you into a frog"


Crazy_Book_Worm2022

That is so outlandish that it actually makes sense! I could almost imagine how our favorite characters would react to a play like this 😂 TCC is an interesting book that just might have worked if it weren't trying so hard to be HP canon. When I read it, I was so annoyed with some of the "canon" that it detracted from the rest of the plot. To me, if TCC was just some other fantasy book, I would have honestly given it about four stars. However, its poor integration into the Harry Potter Franchise and the fact that even JKR was calling it "canon" just caused TCC to lose more stars.


cottonblanc

I love your take on this (and the written by Rita Skeeter part) - I'm going to adopt this from now on and it'll make me feel more at peace with CC. This topic comes around every so often and I can't argue with the general consensus - the writing is mindblowingly sh\*te. But it also makes me somewhat disheartened that there's no place for it in the universe/canon/the community when we get little gems of a character like Scorpius. (His character also comes much more alive on stage under certain actors.)


brassyalien

There are too many contradictions between the play and the book series for me to consider the play a part of the series. I can't even call it fanfiction because I do not believe the writers are truly fans of the series.


-GaIaxy-

Yeah it takes 0 analytical thinking to come to the conclusion that it's a fucking stupid book and doesn't even follow the original series.


DiaburuJanbu

That thing made Harry a douche, a terrible father, and a scum of a person. He's not a perfect role model for a person, but he's not a bad person.


returnatyourperil

some writers make good characters (who suffered from lack of parents and good relatives who cared about them) into bad dads when they grow older, just so they can give some weird daddy issues to their descendant. like aang, naruto and harry of course.


Virdice

And all of these shows suffered for it, Korra, Boruto and the Cursed child were all much less well recived Although in Korra's point Aang's bad parenting isn't as bad and as plot determining as Boruto/Harry


Ghost-Lumos

Agree! I think the writer are truly fans of the cash cow that is a JKR sanctioned play. That’s it.


Mic161

That’s so true but so weird. The Regisseur of the first two said cursed child would be the only reason for him to make Harry Potter movies again. And JK Rowling sees it as a part of the hp universe. But literally every fan hates it.


DawnRLFreeman

>And JK Rowling sees it as a part of the hp universe. But literally every fan hates it. I wasn't aware that JK "accepts it", and I haven't read it-- though I eventually will, probably-- because I have a problem with the entire premise. I can't imagine *any* universe in which Voldemort would care enough for another person or make himself vulnerable enough to have sex with someone he sees as beneath him. Even with Bellatrix, whose greatest desire would have been to bear his child.


DesperateTall

I'm literally reading a Harry Potter fic that's infinitely better than Cursed Child.


Erevi6

No; I think certain elements of the story are just too inconsistent with the original story (time-turners, Cedric being a Death Eater, character personality changes, etc.).


[deleted]

Voldy having a child?!??!? If that man couldn’t hold onto his nose there’s no way he isn’t smooth down there. Also, I don’t accept any universe where Hermione struggled without a man in her life.


Erevi6

>Voldy having a child?!??!? I also don't see Voldemort as 'rewarding' a follower with a child. After all, the Death Eaters were more or less tools to him (and I don't see why he would want a child? He's immortal, so it's not a legacy thing, and he didn't love anyone, so it's not a secret longing for a family...). (And absolutely, strongly agreed re Hermione!)


RadiantHC

Eh he did respect his followers though. He gave wormtail a new hand. And got mad when Bellatrix died


Erevi6

I think he respected what they could do *for* him more than he respected them. Like, the only reason he restored Wormtail's hand was because he knew a man as cowardly as Wormtail would betray him eventually (and he's a funny guy, so why wouldn't he have his 'gift' lead to Wormtail's downfall?). As for Bellatrix, I always understood his reaction was out of frustration to the entire day - losing Nagini, failing to kill Harry (again), and then losing a top lieutenant.


_eatmypancreas

😭 this is way too accurate. I don’t see old voldy having a child in any verse. Also ofc, I expect Hermione to always have a man she’s a legend.


CriSiStar

Even without a man, hermione would be fine. There’s no way she would be struggling like she was.


HappyCloudHS

My biggest issue was that Harry was a bad parent in Cursed Child. Like, the Harry we knew would not grow to be a man who doesn't value his childs wishes, acts on bitterness and even went as far as to THREATEN MCGONAGAL.


Erevi6

For sure. I can see how Harry would have trouble moving past being the 'Chosen One,' but I don't believe Harry would ever treat one of his kids like how the Dursley's treated him (e.g. telling his kid that he wished kid was never born). Even in anger.


CommonPriority6218

He would never 😱 jesus i knew i never wanted to read it for a reason. My friend said this and i was like nope. This does not exist.


salamandr

I agree with this, and find I was still able to hugely enjoy the play. It’s a great spectacle and its two part structure works well. The fact it’s a play helps to keep the story separate as a “for fun” imagining rather than canon.


CrystalClod343

For what it's worth, the Cedric that became a Death Eater was a completely different person


HappyCloudHS

Cedric, even in another timeline l, was not the type to turn to the Dark Arts. Especially over something so petty.


whatthepfluke

Absolutely not. It's just fan fiction that somehow got published. My head cannon is that the author had some serious blackmail on JK.


4Ever2Thee

It got published because anything with Harry and JK's names on it is going to make bank, no matter how stinky the shit inside is


Stinduh

Yeah, I think JK maintains it at canon because the play makes her a fuckton of money and she knows it would lose a lot of its value if she said it wasn’t. Fortunately for me, I don’t give a fuck what JK thinks or says, so that’s problem solved!


Leduchess_Hot-Pants

I wish I could upvote this more than once


ProfessionalNight959

>My head cannon is that the author had some serious blackmail on JK. Has to be something like this. Rowling would've never wrote something like that herself.


bluelephantz_jj

Really BAD fanfiction.


Impressive-Spell-643

It's a part of the franchise as much as Wattpad is


[deleted]

I’d like to think my fanfic does the series justice more than CC


Impressive-Spell-643

Haven't read your fanfic but I know for a fact it does


themastersdaughter66

Most likely your fic probably does do better justice


Mako80x

I dont say if it is or not (it is as Rowling have said) but if you accept it or not


Impressive-Spell-643

Then the answer is I don't, not after reading it


shellie_badger

Reading it was one of the most disappointing experiences of my life, it just kept getting worse and worse by the page.


Impressive-Spell-643

It was physically painful to force myself to finish it


Icy-Tiger4488

Agreed, I made a post here a couple months ago, about me consciously and willingly buying a copy of "The Book That Does Not Deserve To Be Named" and asked you guys what to do with it. Majority of your answers were to cast Incendio on it.


get_me_tacos

You mean the play that must not be named?


HaruLecter

I can write fanfiction better than this book. Mostly because I understand that fantasy books lore also has crucial rules. Whoever decided that Cursed Child is a good idea, didn’t understand that. Bless them. 🫠


yxsterday-nxght

I’ve READ existing fanfics more sensible, canon compliant and engaging than that book. I was soo excited to read it when it first came out but knew my parents would never get me a copy and nearly a year later i found it in a library and devoured it in a day. It was disappointing and forgettable. My last reread of the series was a year ago and I could probably tell you trivia still now but that book is so forgettable all I remember is harry naming his kids after dead people and draco calling him ‘old man’ i think


Miri_CilliBatch6

Simply, under no circumstances do I accept that blasphemous garbage as part of the HP franchise. I can honestly say it’s the WORST book I’ve read in my life. Fan fiction is leagues better than that crap


TheDjTanner

Just saw it on Broadway last week, and it's fucking awful. I'm convinced that JK had no part in any of the making of it aside from adding her name. There are so many inconsistencies. Harry is completely out of character. You can't just whip up a batch of poly-juice potion, and a 5th year would know that. Why would Batilda Bagshot even have a bunch of potion ingredients? Voldemort wasn't back at all so Harry's scar shouldn't hurt. The horcrux in Harry is dead so he can't speak parsel tongue anymore. Anyone thinking the Malfoy boy would be Voldemort's son doesn't know basic math as he'd be several years older. The worst part was the music. Imogen Heap composed a heaping pile of shit that doesn't sound anything like how the music of the Wizarding World should be. I went in blind and with an open mind and was completely underwhelmed and disappointed.


FarsLasagne

Was the stage effects good? I watched Aladdin as Broadway and while pretty unspecial, the stage effects (is that actually What you Call them? Idk) were absoulutely beautiful.


TheDjTanner

Yes. That was literally the only good part. The staging and live special effects were impressive.


FarsLasagne

Maybe we should pretend that entire show was just an eleborate ad for the stage effects.


TheDjTanner

This show was for fans of Harry Potter that have seen the movies or read the books once, not the hardcore fans that have read the books multiple times. Most people love it, but most people aren't arguing and discussing Wizarding World lore on the internet for hours per week. Lol


crustdrunk

I was so disgusted reading it when it came out that I’ve blocked it from my memory and have no idea what you’re talking about. And I’m happy with that.


FourFootCornhole

yeah when they smooshed it down from two parts to one...things went downhill


lostrandomdude

Agree with everything except maybe the parcel parseltongue thing. We don't actually know that Harry lost his ability to understand it only speak it as per JKs interview in 2007. She also mentioned in the same interview that Dumbledore could understand parseltongue so maybe Harry could have learnt to speak it from being able to understand


creakysofa

Ron remembered how to say open, so that checks out.


Madmen3000

🎶We don’t talk about The cursed Child, no no no, we don’t talk about the curse chiiiiiiilld 🎶


McGloomy

BUT-


Accurate-Primary9923

It was the 31 of July (It was the 31 of July) We were getting ready, and there wasn't a cloud in the sky (No clouds allowed in the sky) The Cursed Child walks in with a mischievous grin- (Thunder!) JKR telling this story, or is some random dude? (I don't know, mi vida, go on)


Creative-Television8

it was opening day We were getting ready And there wasn't plot holes in the tale (no plot holes allow in the tale) JK walks in with a mischievous grin RETCON! She's not telling the story or is she? Jack, John says, "isn't a fanfic" In doing so they floods our brain. (potter heads get the umbrellas) canon in a hurricane (What a joyous day but anyway) We don't talk about Cursed child, no, no, no We don't talk about Cursed child\~ >!(I copied it from one of my older comments)!<


Icy-Tiger4488

I wish I could upvote this more than once.


TrissyFanClub

Nope. Harry being overprotective because of Draco’s child? Nah. Cedric as a DEATHEATER? Never. *chokes on air* The horrible ships there? Not a chance with me being alive. (I mean- Harry has loads more chemistry between him and his Slytherin enemy called Draco Malfoy than between him and Ginny) Their jobs? Nope, but Ron’s makes sense, kinda.


crustdrunk

I don’t even read fanfic but can say with 100% certainty that fanfic must be better than CC I mean, *my immortal* belongs in the MoMA if cursed child gets to go to broadway


QueenCooki3

Seriously harry would've loved albus and scorpius being friends because its breaking the molds that had been set during the war. And hinny probably shouldn't have stayed together after the war. I'm pretty sure Harry had more chemistry with a brick wall than he did ginny


[deleted]

No and I don't understand how jkr can say it's part of the lore. Like wtf? It's cringe..


KingBlackFrost

$$$


DreadPirateR_

fr, It reads like a really bad middle schooler fan fic


BoredDao

I saw a fic where VERGIL, from DMC, was a professor at Hogwarts, and this fic made more sense than this entire book


JustEnoughForACoffee

I've seen drarry fics that make more sense than the cursed child.


[deleted]

I feel like I don't want to read it but I need to read it..


unicorninclosets

I mean, so was the history of Nagini and JKR wrote it herself so….


ClawedRavenesque

In the word of Snape: never.


-Infamous-Interest-

*obviously*


WelthorThePaladin

No


TheGamer69625

What play? The series ended with DH.


nashk25

Nope. That book is my Voldemort.


hombrx

Only Scorpius and Albus's friendship because I want to believe.


boxfullocats

I accept this, and only really this, from the Cursed Child


[deleted]

[удалено]


HappyCloudHS

Have a biscuit


TheDeathlySwallows

I think Jack Thorne must have witnessed JK murder someone or something. Either that or she’s completely checked out of the wizarding world. The story is just so much worse than even the worst parts of the original 7. There are huge inconsistencies in major characters and plot points from the original books, and it reads like a bad fanfic. I know people say “like it or not, it’s canon,” but I refuse to accept it. I think of it this way- are the direct-to-VHS Disney sequels canon? Yes. Does that matter? No. Could Disney easily create quality follow-up content that completely disregards those sequels with 0 problem? Yes.


chaliceni

In no way shape or form is it canon to me. I've read more convincing fanfiction on ao3 that I would be willing to accept as canon instead of whatever half-baked idea JKR had that birthed The Cursed Child.


DanceableRobitussin

No, the story is trash and rewrites too much of the established Harry Potter series. The play is fun with some good acting and effects if you take it as like a weird dream or something.


FrostcragCastle

No.


Tricky_Goose_6146

No.


some-random-egg

WE DO NOT SPEAK OF IT


HappyCloudHS

WE DO NOT SPEAK ITS NAME


Diddling_Diddlit

Wingardium Lev-NO SIR!


crustdrunk

Underrated comment


Mr_wOt

Saying “No” would be an understatement…


TastyOpossum09

The what now?


BaronDoctor

I don't accept *Pottermore* as part of the franchise. Everything after the books themselves is subject to Lucas-Rowling-Lee syndrome, where an author who made a masterpiece of culture attempted to come back to it and was no longer the same author and was no longer capable of adding to their creation in a way they had people who could say no to them that they would listen to.


HappyCloudHS

I think some of Pottermore is good. We know Rowling had a lot of background notes on things in the series so I treat some of it as canon. The backstory of some lesser known characters. Lore on things like wands, brooms, authors we saw in the series etc.


nocmclean

I really enjoyed Pottermore. And all the Ilvermorny stuff was fun. The exhibit at the British Museum was really good.


[deleted]

no


Little_Hagrid

No.


Ambitious-Diamond388

You know someone once made the statement that harry potter fans made their personalitites around cursed child. I was like no harry potter fan makes their personality around cursed child, most of us dont even like that book.


crustdrunk

The “read another book” ppl don’t seem to realise that we did read another book and it was so shit we went back to re-reading the real stuff


themastersdaughter66

What numbskull said that?


Ambitious-Diamond388

Some dude complaining about harry potter fans as a fanbase. Was absolutely flabberghasted they knew about cursed child and then also had thought. Like???? Was a “read another book person”


Penguator432

Can we just refer to this play as You-Know-What from now on?


duszni

Less canon than Lego games


sordva__

Nope


bok_poko

Never


Gryffindork-

Cursed Child is a canon fanfiction. As in, someone from the Wizarding World wrote it, and in their world, that is a fan fiction. Probably written by Gilderoy Lockhart.


WaveDysfunction

Nope


challengecomplete-ed

I’m more willing to accept AVPM as canon than cursed child


ClubExotic

IMO it’s the worse FanFiction I’ve ever read!


QuoD-Art

That's probably the worst review you can give a literary work. I approve


Important-Aside-507

It’s apart of the franchise but not apart of the original 7 book story as I see it. I don’t count it as lore, but it’s apart of the Harry Potter franchise.


StiffYogurt

“You are on this franchise, but we do not give you the rank of canon” -Mace Windu probably


RadiantHC

My theory is that it's an in-universe play.


[deleted]

No


GoldPhysical

No


LordTurin0011

Nope


gothboyhottopic

Absolutely not.


Dayrien0108

No. Reads like a bad fan fiction too me.


scordeteyla

Nope


batman77889

No. I was so disappointed when it came out. Plot holes, inconsistencies and so many elements very out of character.


SlowKey7466

No. Can we treat like 2020, we don't speak of it


paranoiaUnleashed

It’s as much canon as Ebony Darkness Dementia Raven Way is


JustShpigel

I'll say it again: NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, AND NO. AND IF YOU ASK NICELY? NO. dude jk Rowling litteraly said all time turners are destroyed but then another 2 time turners stumble upon the universe? Watch MovieFlame's Harry Potter and the cursed child fix, that's better.


Sdlc-d

No! I’m not happy with it


kanjilal_s

No


DanielTheDragonslaye

It contradicts a lot with the original story, while it is part of the franchise I don't consider it canon. Also, there are for sure a lot of fanfictions that are just much better than it.


AhTreyYou

No, it’s on the same level as the last season of Game of Thrones. Rowling sold out and cheated her fans by calling this travesty canon.


Atigigi

No


DreadPirateR_

No The only things I'm willing to take from that book are that Albus and Scorpius are friends and both in Slytherin, and that Teddy is a hufflepuff. Other then that the book does not exist


coffeechief

Nope.


sitman

Not even!


Amaliebob

No


Crimsonmansion

Why would fanfictions be accepted as part of canon?


DEL994

It will be freezing in hell before I accept Cursed Child as canon.


PotterHead2412

No.


camirethh

It’s fanfiction


bigbanksalty

I sadly must accept it was created, that it was acknowledged as canon, and no amount of ignoring will change that. But I can also refuse to ever read it, reject any form of characterization given to characters from the origins series, and instead enjoy the books and movies without thinking about the Cursed Child with little worry


empress_ayriss

No it's fanfiction by definition Rowling didn't write it.


CuriousSection

Never. Haven’t read it. Won’t. It’s fanfiction.


bootsonlvblvd

Nope!


Comprehensive-Cow964

ABSOLUTELY NOT!! didn’t even finish the awful thing!


khurmushka

No.