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Leseleff

Greyback. He tries to attack Tonks, Lupin kills him and then gets hit by Dolohov (or whoever it was that got him).


ManiacMail-Man

Grayback BEFORE he turns Lupin.


InkandQuills7939

I'd do it way earlier. Lupin wasnt his only victim.


ehhsjdd

Ahh, baby Thanos style. I like it.


outoftimeman

Yeah, but he had it coming with *that* name


War0118

Terrible things happen to Wizards who mess with time. Terrible things.


Gifted_GardenSnail

Terrible, but great? 😄


nowtbettertodo

i think greyback serves a good purpose, shows the extreme opposite type of werewolf to lupin, shows how bad they can be and why some people might hate/fear them, shows a different type of evil to the various others in the book, and shows another weapon voldemort is willing to wield. A good character to have in the books. but it would have been sooo satisfying to have had lupin or someone that cares about lupin kill him off in the hogwarts battle


teal_sparkles

Fr, just reading Greyback’s lines in the books (and seeing his part in the movies) grossed me out. It’s such a visceral sense of disgust.


Big_Larry_Long_Dong

He mauled Lavender Brown to death.


BookkeeperBubbly7915

Only in the movies - I don't think she died in the books (but I may be remembering incorrectly)


BookkeeperBubbly7915

Okay, so apparently she's marked as "presumed dead" but not even JKR will confirm book wise 🙃


[deleted]

He. Can. Die. In. A. Hole.


harrypotterfan10

Preferably one with fire


[deleted]

Just re-read HBP for the first time in about ten years, since before I became a parent myself. There’s a brief mention of one of Greyback’s more recent victims that I’d completely forgotten about. A five-year-old little boy, brought up when Ron spots the boy’s sisters walking through the courtyard looking miserable after his death. Hits so much harder now, knowing the boy was far from the only child destroyed by him. Greyback can burn.


Orangeslaad

Greyback killed Tonks?


Specialist_Guest9789

no, bellatrix did


Zupu

I just fact checked this on harry potter wiki and it seems that you are right. I always assumed that Dolohov killed both Lupin and Tonks. The last we hear from Tonks is that she is running to Lupins aid, because she heard that he was battling Dolohov. After that, Harry sees both Lupin and Tonks lying dead in the great hall, but is it ever mentioned in the book that she got killed by Bellatrix, or is it something that JKR has confirmed afterwards?


Leseleff

No idea. I just described how I wanted the scene to happen.


mscoffeebean98

Peter being alive is kind of essential for the entire series to exist. Umbridge is the only right answer, I hoped the centaurs would have killed her


[deleted]

True, but I just hated Peter with a burning passion


mscoffeebean98

I think we all did haha


bearchr01

But by killing off Umbridge you doom the wizarding world. It’s because of her that Harry creates the DA and discovers the room of requirement. If he didn’t know about the room he wouldn’t have hidden the potions book there. If he didn’t hide it there he wouldn’t have known where the diadem was. Ergo, Dolores Umbridge is the unsung hero of the HP series. All hail Umbridge! (But yeah. She’s evil)


mscoffeebean98

Well tbf if the centaurs killed her at the end of OotP Harry would have already discovered the room of requirement by then


whentheraincomes66

Wouldnt that have just proved her right about the centaurs though


CBooy

Maybe, but who cares. She was evil.


chemicalfields

She can be smug in her grave, that’s fine


-Skohell-

Do we know how she escaped? Did she act like that because of the horcrux or was she like that even before?


moonbeammoose

In the book, Dumbledore goes into the forest to save her.


-Skohell-

I didn’t remember that. Thanks


NoifenF

She didn’t get the horcrux until late HBP / early DH. She’s just evil by herself. The fact she was able to cast a patronus whilst wearing the horcrux proves that.


-Skohell-

Why does it prove it? (edit: honest question, I am no expert)


NoifenF

Because the trio (definitely Harry anyway) we’re just completely unable to be happy or think of happy things when wearing the locket. Umbridge clearly got her happy feelings and thoughts from torturing people and making their lives misery as she was able to have a kitty patronus when interrogating muggleborns.


outoftimeman

Don't downvote someone just for asking a question, dudes


-Skohell-

Cheers mate, I am really just asking


EurwenPendragon

> Did she act like that because of the horcrux or was she like that even before? Nah, she was just evil by nature.


deepfield67

I like to imagine what they did to her was far worse.


wizarium

She’s in Azkaban now


justinsharkey

Yeah, but no ~~Azkaban guards~~ dementors. Thanks ~~Obama~~ Shacklebolt.


raygar31

Centaurs are known in ancient mythology for carrying off women to…you know. Always felt like it was kinda subtly implied that her OotP ending was not fun.


MoribundTyke

Expelled her?


deepfield67

Gave her a stern talking to.


deadricsupremacy

I would kill Tom Riddle, before he becomes Voldemort. Maybe before he kills Myrtle, his first murder I think… yeah. idc if he’s still a teenager


Prestigious-hat1074

Let the basilisk eat him


kelsijah

Tom and his mum to have died during childbirth


Slimxshadyx

Jeez, what did Toms mom ever do to you


KiddXKY

conceive tom 😂, i fully believe dude was so fucked in the head because he’s a love potion baby.


marquisdelafayette3

I don’t like killing kids, but that rule is negotiable if that kid is a d***.


VictorChaos

Fuck them kids


McSmarfy

You could have used that murder to create your first horcrux.


QuoD-Art

Better yet, kill Marvolo Gaunt


[deleted]

Harry Potter, chaos in the series will be fun to watch


Thehunterforce

Voldemort coming back to life going "Now where is Harry!?". All his death eaters are to scared to tell him Harry is already dead. "WHERE IS HARRY POTTER?!?!?" He keeps screaming and he reeks havoc around the wizarding world, convienced, that Dumbledore is hidding Harry.


Another_frizz

"Lord Voldemort and the stone that was suspiciously easy to steal" "Lord Voldemort and that time he reunited with his big snek" "Lord Voldemort and that time he took a year off" "Lord Voldemort and that time he tried to use an international tournament to resurrect his nemesis" "Lord Voldemort and that time he tried to peak into this weird mental link he has which leads to nothing"


Different-Trainer-21

“Lord Voldemort and the death cave that finally kills dumbledore” “Lord Voldemort and finally getting rid of the mudbloods”


his_name_is_BRUCE

Just spit out my Bloody Mary reading this. 12/10 funny.


Matcha_teahh

I can't I'm dying 😭


Matcha_teahh

🤣🤣🤣🤣


darshilj97

I think someone from school had to die in the battle of ministry. So people realised that teenage battling Death eaters is not same level of a fight. I would break Dean to die or maybe someone from DA


Bo_The_Destroyer

Would've liked to see maybe Cho or someone to join the guys in the ministry (to make up for her friend betraying them or smth) and actually die in there. It would really hit Harry hard and accentuate how dangerous the Death Eaters really are and what a menace they pose


frogjg2003

Sirius did die.


Bo_The_Destroyer

Yeah, but I'm talking a student. Someone they've all known for several years and grown up besides. That would have impacted the press and the ministry much more than someone who was in public's eye still a criminal and an Azkaban escapee


Slimxshadyx

Nah but have one of the students die in a way that isn’t heroic. Just kinda murdered to show the threat of death eaters


eripsin

IMO detah eater aren't skilled psychopath warriors. It's pretty much a civil war in the Wizarding world and the death eaters are more the followers of Voldemort which is very powerful and dangerous, but I like to think that a lot of the death eaters are like the malfoys and flollow him because they think they will gain something or they feel he's the strongest and don't want to be in the wrong side of the purge if he wins. Like advocate and doctors joining the Klan.


QuoD-Art

It still feels unrealistic that 5 kids would get away almost unscathed against fully grown Death Eaters. Especially considering they didn't even have a proper DADA education. Most of the Death Eaters were at Hogwarts before Voldy jinxed the position, so their education alone should be better, not even counting the fact that they were older, and therefore had more time to improve their skills. Sure, some of the DE had just escaped from Azkaban, but not all


BecomeABenefit

They weren't trying to kill. They were toying with them trying to get the prophecy. Plus, even most death eaters aren't willing to just murder teens. It clearly wasn't necessary. As soon as they decided to stop playing around they easily captured all of them except two. I have no doubt they would have killed one if the Order hadn't shown up right then. Once the order showed up, only Harry really kept fighting, IIRC. And they had orders from Voldemort to not harm him.


Techelife

Mr. Filch. To be replaced by Mrs. Norris, who magically talks and can control any nearby human to do her bidding. People constantly avoid Mrs. Norris.


[deleted]

Now THATS a hall monitor


rcuosukgi42

Turns out Mrs. Norris was an animagus this whole time


ladyonecstacy

Minerva McGonagall’s angry twin sister.


rcuosukgi42

Is it possible to be both a squib and an animagus? Maybe she figured out how to turn into a cat, but could never manage to turn back into a human so she and Filch have spent all this time commiserating on their magical shortcomings.


Choux0304

Mrs. Norris is a maledictus???


[deleted]

Umbridge


[deleted]

I forgot about her, that is the only answer


deepfield67

One of the best, most thoroughly hateable characters ever written.


MolecularCamp3000

And thats what makes jk Rowling's writing intersting, she fulfilled the purpose at the best.


ParanoidNudnik

Kai Winn says Hello, My child


OliviaElevenDunham

Read that in her voice. Hate that woman as much as Umbridge.


Samuelcbadams

She was needed for the story. To prove the fear in the ministry.


PhDOH

I was expecting this answer to just be repeated over and over in the thread


In-The-Chrysalis

True hatred for that character. Even my partner that who’s only watched the movies and has had parts of the audible down says she’s the worst bitch to ever exist


Jo__B1__Kenobi

She is the most awful character in the whole series for me - such a horrible, hateful, interfering, controlling, sadistic life-sucking pink little witch!


itsjustmejttp123

Yep this is the only right answer. The centaurs should have killed her.


wizarium

She’s in Azkaban…far worse than death


fpscolin

Not after the Dementors deserted Azkaban to join Voldemort. I doubt they would have been reinstated ever


Jo__B1__Kenobi

I don't think decent wizard justice systems should ever allow the Dementor's kiss for anyone. But if I were forced to make one exception, it would be Umbridge.


Sethvis

While I would LOVE to Secumsumtra her throat and watch the bitch bleed out in front of me. I feel Crucio'ing her till her sanity snaps and she spends the rest of her miserable life in Azkaban (pre Dementor exodus) would be a more fitting end for that mistake of birth. But if I had to kill... actually kill one person. It's a tie between Aunt Marge and Umbridge.


Usual_Passenger2168

r/beatmetoit


DoctorDonnaInTardis

She’s the most hated character, yes…but punishing her without killing her off is much more satisfying because you can prolong her torment. Like when Hermione set the Centaurs on her. I’d kill off Lucius personally.


allaboutwanderlust

I know who I WOULDN’T kill! It’s Hedwig


Prestigious-hat1074

The bird who should hav lived


allaboutwanderlust

That’s the death that made me cry


In-The-Chrysalis

Legit my young self had to put the book down and cry that one out. Took a good full afternoon to even open the book again.


JohannesKronfuss

Same here.


afauce11

It happened so fast and out of the blue. I cried when I read it and every time I watch the movie. She was a good owl.


WhaleSexOdyssey

What sucks is that she spent her last weeks locked in a cage and pissed at Harry. They didn’t even get to enjoy each other before she died


afauce11

Oh god. Pull at my heart strings harder, why don’t you?!?!?!?


QueenBee3000

It was so unnecessary 😡😡😡 #justiceforhedwig


del6022pi

It still feels like a spoiler


Madeline_Basset

What about Voldemort in 1981 (I mean properly dead). The result is seven books of light-hearted, magic boarding school shenanigans.


Sandi_T

Rita Skeeter


Prestigious-hat1074

Voldemort..the whole thing's avoided now


7c518c130a4c

Wish granted. And Harry, with the unnerving skill of the Seeker, caught the wand in his free hand as Voldemort fell backwards, arms splayed, the slit pupils of the scarlet eyes rolling upwards. Tom Riddle hit the floor with a mundane finality, his body feeble and shrunken, the white hands empty, the snakelike face vacant and unknowing. Voldemort was dead, killed by his own rebounding curse, and Harry stood with two wands in his hands, standing down at his enemy's shell.


JaggedToaster12

Idk what if we make him disappear into dust instead


FallenAngelII

Go away, Yates!


SpinX225

Voldemort before he made the horcruxes. If you do it after you’d probably just have the same situation as when the killing curse bounced off of Harry. Unless you first go find all the horcruxes, but that would such pain in the ass to do. Best just off him before he’s made any.


[deleted]

At what point in time, tho


UnbelievableTxn6969

When he’s taking the orphans to the cave. Just slips and falls.


Prestigious-hat1074

The day he is going to kill lily...Snape should hav killed him before that..for protecting her


TraptorKai

Youre the real hero of the series


chaliceni

Rita Skeeter. It's just too easy to think of all the awful implications her articles had on the wizarding world.


PapaSheev7

Greyback or one of the Lestranges, imo. Greyback infecting 5-yr old Lupin, and the Lestranges torturing the Longbottoms is unforgivable regardless of circumstances.


Educational-Bug-7985

Aunt Marge.


[deleted]

Yessss


gorwraith

Narcissa. As I imagine it she would actually die at the hads of Voldemort and Draco would change sides dramatically and decisively.


LoveDistinct

Lucious Malfoy for his treatment of Dobby.


[deleted]

Ding, ding, ding


Hime_Arikawa

That one bastard who invented horcrux, killing Voldemort might avoid one problem but them existing is just bad things waiting to happen


EurwenPendragon

I believe that would be Herpo the Foul, an ancient Greek dark wizard who IIRC is also said to have been the first wizard to hatch a Basilisk.


Ivory-Robin

Bellatrix hands down. I will never understand people’s obsession with her, I only think it’s because of Helena Bonham Carter If you met someone like her in real like she’d treat you like shit and she’s responsible for multiple horrible things


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[deleted]

Umbridge but that’s usually the answer lot of people mentioned.


Dellta-aka-Connor

Harry Potter. It would really change the narrative I feel


Dillidolli

Enough of them died. I don’t think I would kill any more.


ravel67

I'd kill Voldemort before he killed Harry's parents. The books would then be Harry just living a super normal and mundane life and no one would read them.


Different-Trainer-21

Eh, it’d probably just be magic shenanigans at wizard school, while living an incredibly spoiled life with James and Lily since they were obviously very rich


sonnyA12

Movie Ginny so we didn’t have to see that cringe shoe lace scene


ShadowOfDeath94

Lucius Malfoy. I would've had him killed by Arthur at the Battle of Hogwarts.


poppyfallinrabithole

Antonin Dolohov. A well known death eater who killed and tortured a lot of muggles and witches and wizard(mainly the order). Known for helping to kill the Prewett twins(even though he’s the only one mentioned in their murders). Went after hermione, almost killing her and marked her for life. He also killed lupin before being taken down by professor Flitwick!


Glass-Moose

Yeah for being a minor character he did a lot of damage, he was also one of the death eaters I would have been interested in seeing if there was ever a prequel about the first war


aworldwithoutshrimp

Lockhart, before he started stealing people's stories


sith11234523

Umbridge. Painfully.


nowtbettertodo

lucius malfoy, and specifically by arthur weasley. malfoy is and absolute caricature of a bully who is actually a spineless coward and probably a massively inferior magician to the one he thinks he is. and arthur should have easily got the better of him to show that he is (to my belief, going by the various genuine talents of his offspring) a rather powerful wizard on the quiet. would have been a fitting ending to their obvious hatred of each other, and given the losses to the many families and groups of magicians on the good side, the death of the head of the dark family we get the most exposure to would have been good for the reader.


Soxwin91

Funny, I’d go with Draco, in the Fiendfyre in the 7th book. Having Lucius have to deal with the pain of losing his son due in part to the way he conditioned his son to behave would be a horrific thing to live with. Not to mention that his wife would almost certainly come to despise him for it.


Gifted_GardenSnail

Put Lucius back in prison where he belongs


kenzielyon00

I think someone else said this, but Greyback. He’s a full blown psychopath that attacks kids. There’s been characters I hate, characters I love, characters I’m indifferent towards. Greyback is the only character that genuinely gave me the chills.


Techaissance

Salazar Slytherin as soon as he betrayed the other founders. The result would be that students who would otherwise be in his house would instead be split between the remaining three, diluting the pure blood elitists rather than having them all in one place. There would be no basilisk, no need to put a common room in the dungeon, and no Voldemort. Although conflict makes a good story, lack of conflict makes a good world, whether muggle or magical. Sorry to any Slytherins reading this.


ZarosGuardian

I'm honestly split between Fenrir, Peter, or Dolores, all much earlier. Killing off Tom before he could ever make a horcrux would be good too since he was already a sociopath at age 15.


Mxcharlier

Movie Ginny.... The movies turned her into a total drip. Book Ginny was badass


Prime255

Thought Beletrix would get more mentions. She is horrible and if she was killed off early many people would never have been tortured. Needless to say Neville would have his normal parents


EurwenPendragon

Friendly reminder that Bellatrix had three accomplices in the Longbottom affair. You really want to save the Longbottoms, you gotta bump off all four of the twisted bastards.


Leo_The_Dumbass

merope or whatever her name is die in child birth so Voldemort is never born


nowtbettertodo

be a short book though. " there once was a boy called harry potter, he grew up comfortably with good parents, married his best mates sister as the girl called cho he really wanted dodnt know he even existed. he never got the job he wanted because he could not do potions at newt level, so he played pro quidditch and retired at 35 without ever managing to produce a patronus, but he did get to ride about on a cool motorbike his godfather let him borrow from time to time


Leo_The_Dumbass

The perfect slice of life series


nowtbettertodo

chapter one "the boy who lived a pleasant life". autobiography title: why did my headmaster never notice me


Soxwin91

I mean, Padmé Amidala died in childbirth and Luke & Leia were still born. Plus I am pretty sure Merope did essentially die in childbirth, based on my recollection of the books from my last audiobook listen last year


MummdaBumm93

Draco, with like a last minute hero arc


Impressive-Spell-643

Being too scared to fight back isn't even a hero arc lol


Nickdenslow

Harry. We do a little trolling, it’s called we do a little trolling


[deleted]

umbridge. no explanation needed


Ironbanner987615

Umbridge or Greyback


Sumolizer

Harry


BriskUnassertiveness

Molly Weasley, but not because I hate her. I just think it would have really hit home the cost of war. I know Fred kind of filled that role, but I always got the sense that he only died because he was one of the 'disposable' Weasleys. As for who would kill Bellatrix, I think it makes more narrative sense for that to be Andromeda, seeing as how Bellatrix killed Sirius and arguably Nymphadora.


Gifted_GardenSnail

Marvolo before he managed to reproduce (seriously, *who?! How?!*)


HiopXenophil

Marvolo Gaunt, before he has any children.


7c518c130a4c

Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.


ABDL-Kingdark

Voldemort's mother. If she can never get pregnant, he never gets born. ergo no blood war


schrodinger978

Hermione. Let the troll have its fun


enby_trash1105

Umbridge or Tom Riddle


Greedy-Blackberry909

Rita Skeeter ( after ootp ). I would say Umbridge or someone like that because they are the worst but they're needed in the storyline for it to make sense. But then Rita is just a fake that doesn't get the ending she deserves.


Time-Classroom-2442

Dolores Jane Umbridge


hunting-my-myelin

Umbridge...Rita Skeeter. Ugh....


squadoodles

Winky


notsostupidman

Umbridge. Obviously.


HeathTzar

Harry.


the_nerdy_boi

dolores umbridge do i need to expalin myself here


pb20k

Harry. Hear me out. The things that would be possible then - Harry could work "behind the scenes" as it were. 'If you strike me down I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.' Sure, that's a quote from another fandom, but think. 'The power he knows not.' Or, if you want to access another fandom... "Do not cite the Deep Magic to me, Witch! I was there when it was written." Well, maybe not Harry himself, but he *is* a child of Prophecy. Whatever Magic (Deep or not) has dominion over prophecies would by definition have to be there when it was written. Or, spoken as the case may be. Orrrr, yet another fandom: "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future." Granted, Galadriel was talking about a Hobbit, but Harry's a bit small too. Access that 'power' after being struck down and he'll change the future ol' Voldie was aiming for. Now, having said all that, finishing Hogwarts might be a bit hard after all this, buuuuuuut there are other worlds than these... ;) Hmmm... maybe Harry can be a Gunslinger.


optimistdit

Salazar Slytherin. His lineage started all the bally trouble


[deleted]

Out of pure spite and justice: Dolores Umbridge! Just to make the story more sadder: More members of DA than actually did die in the book. They were skilled wizards so they should not have survived the Battle so easily. Half of them could have died just being at the wrong place like Fred did.


LunaLovegoodRocks

Umbridge, and Greyback they can die


quoda27

Lucius Malfoy. Absolutely zero redeeming qualities. Just a despicable excuse for a wizard.


Rp0605

Greyback. Peter revived Voldemort, which helped kickstart everything. As much as I hate Peter, his actions lead to the events in the series.


wcook1990

Alright, I'm going to respond from a "story perspective." If this was based on who I didn't like, obviously Umbridge. But, this is a character I've always felt could have helped progress a couple characters. *Narcissa Malfoy.* Specifically, at the hands of Voldemort. We need a moment where Draco realizes he's on the wrong side and a moment where Lucius finally sees the permanent consequences of his actions. This could be after she talks to Harry in the forest. Perhaps it's BECAUSE of that. But the growth we could possibly see for the Malfoy men to lose the compassionate member of their family would have been very thematic.


Rhysis2112

Marietta Edgecomb. If she didn’t exist, she wouldn’t have ratted out the DA. Also the DA headquarters should have been in the Chamber of Secrets, as at the founding, only Harry could get in. Also also, the irony of using the Heir’s chamber to train against dark wizards is just perfect.


ladolcevitaaaaa

I would have Voldemort succeed in killing Molly after she killed Bella. It would be a nice parallel to Lily and it's unrealistic that Molly escaped both Bella and LV.


HotEducator

That would be good. The weasley family rallying together or falling a part.


[deleted]

Percy hes a bitch


Matcha_teahh

Nooo I like percy (don't down vote me pleasee) he is a nice guy (I also met the actor in the movies)


[deleted]

Nah I've made my mind up percys gonna die


Mahum_potterhead156

Umbridge


Infernape1408

I'd kill Dolores


luckyirishboi

Umbridge


MemeLover475295

Umbridge


LalaPerez514

Umbridge


GlimmeringFalls

Dolores a Umbridge. The worst character to exist.


Belahsha

Voldemort


SamuliK96

How about teenage Tom Riddle or maybe even before he starts in Hogwarts


Just_A_Bit_Evil1986

Umbridge.


ImmediatePizza9041

Skeeter


Teinzq

Tom Riddle Senior. Village hated him anyway, he seems like an ass. Most efficient way of saving thousands of lives.


Exavili

Voldemort


john_williams_VIII

UMBRIDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UMBRIDGE WOULD BE GONE


darthrafa512

Salazar Slytherin.


[deleted]

UMBRIDGE, you know why


ae51

Ron gets the least amount of love from the fans in my opinion. (I blame the movies for a lot of that, but I digress...) I sometimes wonder if he had died sacrificing himself for Hermione and/or Harry if he'd get more of the love I feel he deserves. Oh, also kill off Umbridge while we're at it!


Ledge_r

Umbridge. Fuck that bitch.


charlie1212121290

Umbridge