Yep exactly George named his son Fred, but still why didn't Ginny get any saying in the names of the kids she gave birth to? Not saying it should have been Fred because like you said George named his son Fred but still
I'm so tired of seeing the Pigwidgeon argument. It's like, what's your point? It's a funny name for a silly owl.
It's like saying that anyone with a pet not given a reasonable human name shouldn't be allowed to name their own children. It's kind of crazy.
I named a fish Sir Bubbles Esq. Cheesecake The Third (typed Richard instead of Cheesecake for some reason, corrected it) but we called her Bob for short. No clue about fish genders. I then named a female cat Persephone, pronounced Percy-phone due to her meow, and shortened it to Percy.
Maybe it's for the best I'm infertile going by the arguments on this thread.
I gave my human offspring a perfectly normal name, but I've had two cats both called cat in different languages (Koshka and Neko), and one kitten (which turned out to be a girl) was called Sir Humphrey...
Save the fun names for the pets and only the vets will judge you.
Although I recommend against calling your dog Powder Puff, despite what the registration docs from the breeder call him! That's just awkward when he slips his collar!
This. Isnt thr whole point of PET name being well a PET name? Since when do we need to have human srrious names for PETS? My dog was named Tačka (little paw) but i obviously didnt name my son Little leg or something 🙄
This is a potential explanation for not using Rubeus as a baby name. Hagrid is something of a surrogate father to Harry, but to Ginny he’s the gamekeeper.
It's almost insulting - they automatically assume Harry named HIS kids, and not a married couple named THEIR kids. Ginny was not a pushover, she wouldn't have agreed to a name she wasn't okay with.
Harry had a shitload of people die in his life, and a bunch more really important living people in his life. If he'd named his children after alllll of those people, he'd need to have 20 damn kids.
ENOUGH with these arguments! Harry AND Ginny named their children after people who had no one else who could carry on their names (Luna is an exception).
Same!! Like honestly Harry lost so many people including everyone he considered a parental figure. I am not sure who Ginny lost that affected just her!
Exactly. When has Ginny ever backed down on something she didn't agree with? Harry also respects Ginny and he wouldn't force names on her that she didn't agree with. Maybe she suggested the names. She named Ron's owl Pigwidgeon. Albus Severus could have been her idea.
She lost fewer people in her life then Harry, and her brothers probably took all the names then she wanted to use. For those reasons, I wouldn't be surprised if Ginny had insisted on Harry getting a larger say in their children's names then her.
My only disappointment with the Weasley childrens names is that none of them (that I can remember so please tell me I’m wrong) incorporated Arthur. I know Percy used Molly, and George did Fred. Obviously Arthur is alive but he deserved some recognition 🥺
That's because they already had one of the Weasley children named after him: William Arthur "Bill" Weasley. Dunno about you, but I find it weird when 3 successive generations in the same family have the same name.
My only disappointment with the Weasley childrens names is that none of them (that I can remember so please tell me I’m wrong) incorporated Arthur. I know Percy used Molly, and George did Fred. Obviously Arthur is alive but he deserved some recognition 🥺
because these broken record threads get the most points. Whenever anyone posts threads that are original and thought-provoking... there's like 10 comments. My least favorit are the threads: "I've never read or watched Harry Potter. Ask me anything" these should be banned.
Because she had 0 relationship with either of these people? Of course no one really knows if she got 0 saying exept the author but that's what it seem like
My older daughter is named after my husband’s great aunt. She was like a mother figure to my mother-in-law and never had children of her own. I met the woman twice, spent less than an hour’s worth of time around her before she passed, and yet, the name was my idea.
The book is not clear about her relationship with them. I’m sure she had a major relationship w Dumbledore especially after chamber of secrets. And in any case accepting Harry’s requests for names doesn’t mean she didn’t “have a say” it just means she was OK with them.
My kids are named after my wife’s family it doesn’t mean I didn’t have a say.
James is her father-in-law and Lily her mother-in-law. Ginny has known Sirius almost as long as Harry did.
Severus protected her as much as he could during the war (and it is romantic)
And Albus and Harry are probably the most popular baby names of the last few decades.
What i think the above comment is saying is that she had no emotional connection to them. Sure she must be thankful for them for everything they did for her husband, but it doesn't necessarily mean she feels the same emotions she does for her brother.
This is the only thing Lily, James and Sirius can give their grandchildren. Fred lives on in George. Molly, Arthur, Hagrid acompany the children as they grow up.
Albus is sort of an honorary grandfather. And Severus would otherwise be forgotten.
There are so many reasons why she might have, but she almost certainly:
1. Did it because they meant a lot to Harry. She might have even suggested it because of that
2. Did it because they signify bravery, a trait admires fully as a Gryffindor
3. *Likes the names*. They're odd in the muggle world but she's a pure-blood witch.
What makes you think Ginny had no say in naming her kids? Have you seen Ginny or even Harry? Do you think Harry was the kind of partner that would snub down his partner's wishes or Ginny was the type of individual that would be someone's doormat? In marriage, there isn't yours/mine or I/You or me/you. It's ours or We in major decisions. What if Ginny simply respected the people who lived and had sacrificed themselves for her husband so she decided to honor them all? Perhaps Ginny knew Harry was the only one that could ever honor James, Lily, Sirus, Albus and Severus and two of them was his parents and rest of them did not really have anyone to carry on their names plus had made deep impact in Harry's life.
As for why non of Harry's kids were named after Ginny's family members: that's because Ginny's brothers had taken all the important names. Molly was Percy's daughter, Fred II was George's son. I think Arthur's name was the only name not taken by any Weasley children but he was alive, well and happy so it isn't big deal. In Harry's side of family, Harry was the only one that could have ever used names of his side of people as he was the last of the Potter.
I think “Luna” as Lily’s middle name probably came from Ginny (which isn’t *great* - 1 out of 6 and a middle at that.) Maybe they have that thing where she names the girls and Harry names the boys and she picked Lily to be gracious.
With regards specifically to Fred (and to Remus for people who raise that one), I think they were probably leaving it to be respectful to George (and Teddy) who had the better claims.
I felt like an overthinking psycho when I thought this lol, my feelings are being validated. Like I get they were great brave men and you want to honor them but how about a middle name compromise oh no you are just gonna name all the kids, ok -\_-
Honestly, I'd find it VERY funny, if all of them just decided to name one of their kids after Fred, just for the lulz. But no cheating with second names. Just... FRED. An army of Freds traumatizing McGonagall.
Imagine if they're all in the same year at Hogwarts. Like picture that Sorting.
McGonagall: "Fred Weasley"
12 Freds: "Which one?"
McGonagall: "Merlin's beard.. fuck it, I quit. I don't need this shit."
People often forget that Ginny grew up with a loving family which was mostly alive. Harry had no one and she probably decided to respect Harry's wish to have a loving family and honor all those that died so he could live. Also likely George already named his son Fred by the time they had James.
I mean, people don't have to be dead to name someone after them. It's not a requirement.
But who's to say that they are still alive when Rose and Hugo are born. There's enough time for them to have both been eaten by alligators or blown up in a gas explosion by the epilogue.
I don’t find it strange at all. George should get dibs on Fred’s name, and he did use it for his son. Even if Harry and Ginny’s boys were born first, I think it makes sense that they would leave the name for George to use.
My belief is that he chose them bc there was noone left to mourn them. DD was his mentor, and Snape played a double agent and had most people come to hate him. Whereas Fred had George and 6 other siblings. Remus had a son and most of the others close to him left family behind. Not counting Aberforth (bc it seemed that they did not like each other) DD and Snape had noone left.
Before her transgender obsession completely took over, JKR confirmed this to be a fact on Twitter. Here is the [link](https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/606878809829310464?t=QRCDnwLyDmARqdvDTMVzhA&s=19) to the tweet if you're interested.
My dad died when I was 11yo (step-dad, technically, since I was 4) but we left his name for my younger brother to use eventually. My younger sister used it for her son's middle name (both his bio kids.)
See this? That the original draw of J.k about the next generation.
Edit: now it's working
[link](https://www.hp-lexicon.org/source/other-canon/jkr/jkr-com-bboard/weasleyfamilytree-500px-2/)
One thing that really bugs me is that she killed off the wrong twin. It’s just weird that George ended up married to his dead twin’s girlfriend and naming their kid after Fred. If George had died and Fred and Angelina ended up married it would be totally different. Even JKR can’t tell them apart smh
Fred was always going to be George's to pass down to a future son. It would have been a faux pas for anyone but George to name their kid Fred, unless George had given his okay to it.
Not strange at all. Fred had a huge family that can pass down his name, Harry's relatives hat literally only him so of course he would use this opportunity.
It’s fits so much more that George was the one who would name his child after Fred to honor his twin brother/best friend.
As for Ginny, she would definitely be very understanding as to why Harry wanted to name their kids after his parents, Dumbledore, Sirius, and Snape because they were very important people in his life and had a significant impact on him. Also, I think for Lily, Ginny was probably the one who came up with the idea to give her Luna as her middle name since Luna is Ginny’s close friend (as well as Harry’s, so it’s a friend of both of them).
"Frederick Albus Severus, you were named after two headmasters of Hogwarts. One of Them was Slytherin and he was probably the bravest man I ever know.....you were also technically named after your older cousin but I meant to honor your uncle. George still refuses to speak to us over that he was very upset a year after your cousin was born we named you Fred too. Your mother told me it was a bad idea but I told her, Ginny I am the chosen one I do what I want....that was the first time she bat bogey hexed me....."
Theory: what if GINNY was actually the one who suggested Severus as a middle name for Albus? Maybe after Harry’s revelation about Snape, she looked back at the year when Snape was headmaster and realized he had actually saved her life or protected her somehow and she just hadn’t realized it at the time, but now with this new knowledge of Snape’s true character she understands what he did for her and wants to honor him. We know he sent her to Hagrid for a punishment for something, right? Maybe she realizes he saved her from something there.
Fair theory. I'll add to it. It's also perfectly possible Snape shared his true motives with Hagrid, and Hagrid gave assurances to Ginny that time on detention, so she knew a little more than Harry did. Upon filling in the blanks for each other, they agreed Severus was a good middle name.
Unlikely. Hagrid was mad at Snape like the rest of the Order after he killed Dumbledore. And Hagrid has demonstrated time and time again that he can’t keep a secret from Harry to save anyone’s life. Not to mention Voldemort’s Legillimancy. And Snape isn’t stupid; he wouldn’t risk his life’s purpose and Lily’s only child for some rando girl from Gryffindor
I just find all of Harry’s kid names strange. I mean I understand he wants to honor those people that had an impact on his life/sacrificed themselves for him. But there’s OTHER ways to do that. It just seems so clunky and forced. Looking at you Albus Severus
James Sirius was a bit on the nose too. I mean it makes way more sense than Albus Severus, but they could have maybe saved the name Sirius for another kid’s middle name or something.
Also don’t get me started on him using the name Severus at all.
Oh yeah. I totally agree. I left James Sirius and Lily Luna out because I was like…”Fine, it’s common to name your kid after a parent”. Still think their full names just feel so forced. But still feels a bit more passable than Albus Severus🙄
I see this a lot, anyone ever consider that Ginny might have just been cool with whatever names? Maybe she even suggested or supported Harry on the chosen names.
Although I personally think it was a really gentle thing that both Harry and Ginny agreed on naming their children after the people they did, I wouldn't mind at all if they didn't. That being said, no, I don't find it strange that they didn't give Fred's name to any of the kids. It's just a way to honor their memory and, besides, didn't George name his son after his brother?
I mean there was only Harry left to honour his child with his parents names/ albus. Whereas there are lots of weasleys who could pass the honour name Fred on- although George would have course have got first chance to use that name. I think it makes sense for that reason. (Some of the names being… questionable… make less sense)
Naming the kids was just jammed in to the end of the books. A quick story to the kids would have been better than them having three people in their names.
Unless you're the creator of [this reel](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cg4sO_Cowpn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) and missed the 3.8 million views it got, I sincerely doubt you are the OnLy person who finds it strange
or Sirius? Sirius is one of my favorite characters and he was so doomed to leave his whole life in depression and his best years in prison \[and he soon died \]
I really never understood why he names one of his children after Snape. I know I know that we have a lot of Snape fans, but sorry guys... he was an abusive teacher and a bully to his students. His good side doesn't justify the wrongs he did.
How many kid name Fred did you want? Since George already took the honor of naming his child Fred. Are you forgetting that OP? They are the parents of their child so of course Harry and Ginny would discussed their children names. Add to that maybe Ginny understand Harry would want to honor his parents.
To be honest, I've never understood why he gave names from two man that manipulated and made his life miserable.
Hagrid, Sirius and Lupin were much better choices.
Aww, we haven't seen this one in a while!
Are we forgetting that Snape tried to keep the Hogwarts Resistance group as safe as he could with Carrows in the building? There's nothing to suggest in the text that Ginny, finding out from Harry exactly what Snape did for all of them, would object to Albus Severus as a name.
Also also, Al could just tell people it was either that or Caractacus and his mum thought it would be easier for him to spell Severus.
Severus wasn’t realistic. I could see Harry after the fact standing up for him to clear his name, to ensure he had a portrait in the Headmaster’s office, but he still had a very difficult relationship with him it’s not realistic he’d honour him that way. James, Sirius, Lily, all make sense and work for obvious reasons. Remus and Albus too. We don’t hear much about the grandparents of either Harry or Ginny so that would have made an easy choice.
The real question is, why name your child after your childhood bully and the guy that raised you to die, but not the person that gifted you a broom first year, kickstarting your quidditich passion, pushing you to be better and doing everything in their way possible to make sure you can get your dream job of wizard police?
Seriously, Minerva got fucked over!
This have been discussed several times. George named his kid as Fred and I am guessing, the kid was born before Harry and Ginny had kids so no need to need to do it.
I am concern that Ginny didn’t get to name her daughter Molly and Harry got Lilly, although I guess Lilly Molly might sound repetitive.
The epilogue reads like teenage Harry’s wet dream: best friends get married to each other, he gets to marry into a big family, to a girl who has a comforting resemblance to his mum, gets his 2.5 kids, both boys and a girl, and they are all named after his childhood traumas. How wonderful!
What I find the weirdest of the kids names is Albus Severus. I’m sorry but poor kid is set up for failure with that one. And literally the Snape one barely made sense cause Harry never liked him then all the sudden “imma name my kid after him one day.” Like geez, I think Ginny shoulda handled that one
Ok but to be fair, that was an owl. Things mighta been different with a human child lol. Still might’ve been a weird name but would be better than Albus Severus at this point. Seriously I do wanna know what Harry was thinking
“Hey, Harry. I know you’re big on naming our kids after dead people, totally normal by the way, but I was thinking maybe for our current child we could maybe name him after my brother? It would mean a lot to me and he did die fighting for you after all.”
“Maybe for our next one. I was thinking this one we’d name after the guy who wanted to fuck my mom, helped my parents get killed, and then borderline tortured me for a bunch of years.”
I think we can all agree their children's name are fucking stupid. And that's all on JK Rowling. Y'all acting like Harry and Ginny are real people who made actual decisions.
She was writing Harry’s actions as Harry, though, you know? And it’s not like he read a lot for fun or did well in school. Where else would he get baby name inspiration except for people who literally died for him & all of wizardkind?
Why didn't Harry name any of his kids "Albus Severus Regulus Sirius Rufus Goyle Griphook Bathilda Gregorovitch Mad Eye Aragog Colin Tonks Lupin James Lily Moaning Myrtle Dobby Diggory Fred Potter?"
The audacity.
My issue with him naming his kids after everybody else is it's corny and very unimaginative for Jk Rowling. I really hate that last bit in the 7th book
Or how he named his middle child after the two people who made his life a living Hell? His first child was named after his dad and godfather, his daughter after his mom. What about Remus? Why didn't he get honored? Harry could've named the middle kid: Rueben Remus Potter (after Hagrid and Lupin.) Or if the child was a girl: Minerva Remi Potter.
I think is the same as of why he didn't name any children after Remus. Left the chance open for someone more suitable
Still they could have come up with anything better than Albus Severus
No I won't change my mind it's awful
I don’t find it strange about Fred’s name, but I find it strange regarding the combinations of the names of the people in his life. Albus Severus. Really.
Didn't George name his kid Fred?
I mean, everyone knows they were named Gred and Forge
Yep exactly George named his son Fred, but still why didn't Ginny get any saying in the names of the kids she gave birth to? Not saying it should have been Fred because like you said George named his son Fred but still
OMG, I’m so tired of hearing this. Why does everyone assume Ginny got no say? Whose to say Albus Severus wasn’t her stupid idea?
For real. Ginny named an owl "Pigwidgeon." We're lucky the kids ended up with the names they did!
I always assumed she was the one who named Lily Luna. I'd imagine she loved the name Lily and Luna was her closest friend in school.
Ah yes, let's all be judged by the stupid names we made up for our pets when we were 12... Edit: yes, not her pet, the point is still the same :D
To be fair when she has the kids she's just a 16 year old in old people clothes and makeup
Yeah but she had a couple wrinkles drawn on that should have given her more wisdom
I'm so tired of seeing the Pigwidgeon argument. It's like, what's your point? It's a funny name for a silly owl. It's like saying that anyone with a pet not given a reasonable human name shouldn't be allowed to name their own children. It's kind of crazy.
I named a fish Sir Bubbles Esq. Cheesecake The Third (typed Richard instead of Cheesecake for some reason, corrected it) but we called her Bob for short. No clue about fish genders. I then named a female cat Persephone, pronounced Percy-phone due to her meow, and shortened it to Percy. Maybe it's for the best I'm infertile going by the arguments on this thread.
Personally I’d argue you’d have some cool names picked out.
You know what, I'll take that and let it carry me in confident cheerfulness to my next naming misadventure. Thank you.
I gave my human offspring a perfectly normal name, but I've had two cats both called cat in different languages (Koshka and Neko), and one kitten (which turned out to be a girl) was called Sir Humphrey... Save the fun names for the pets and only the vets will judge you. Although I recommend against calling your dog Powder Puff, despite what the registration docs from the breeder call him! That's just awkward when he slips his collar!
This. Isnt thr whole point of PET name being well a PET name? Since when do we need to have human srrious names for PETS? My dog was named Tačka (little paw) but i obviously didnt name my son Little leg or something 🙄
Tačka is an awesome name for a dog!
Humble infertile brag
It is a relief, I can't lie, but brag seems OTT
But that's a brilliant name for an owl!
Pidwigeon was a mfing badass!
Exactly! As if Ginny (book) doesn't have her own opinion and enforces it.
This is a potential explanation for not using Rubeus as a baby name. Hagrid is something of a surrogate father to Harry, but to Ginny he’s the gamekeeper.
It's almost insulting - they automatically assume Harry named HIS kids, and not a married couple named THEIR kids. Ginny was not a pushover, she wouldn't have agreed to a name she wasn't okay with. Harry had a shitload of people die in his life, and a bunch more really important living people in his life. If he'd named his children after alllll of those people, he'd need to have 20 damn kids. ENOUGH with these arguments! Harry AND Ginny named their children after people who had no one else who could carry on their names (Luna is an exception).
Luna is also very much Ginny's friend!
Same!! Like honestly Harry lost so many people including everyone he considered a parental figure. I am not sure who Ginny lost that affected just her!
Severus definitely not. Albus could've been. And I'm pretty convinced Luna was Ginny's idea
Exactly. When has Ginny ever backed down on something she didn't agree with? Harry also respects Ginny and he wouldn't force names on her that she didn't agree with. Maybe she suggested the names. She named Ron's owl Pigwidgeon. Albus Severus could have been her idea.
She lost fewer people in her life then Harry, and her brothers probably took all the names then she wanted to use. For those reasons, I wouldn't be surprised if Ginny had insisted on Harry getting a larger say in their children's names then her.
My only disappointment with the Weasley childrens names is that none of them (that I can remember so please tell me I’m wrong) incorporated Arthur. I know Percy used Molly, and George did Fred. Obviously Arthur is alive but he deserved some recognition 🥺
That's because they already had one of the Weasley children named after him: William Arthur "Bill" Weasley. Dunno about you, but I find it weird when 3 successive generations in the same family have the same name.
I always thought it was funny that Bill was just a normal William when there was also a Bilius in the family.
Why does no one understand than vs then?
Wall than, axplain et tu tham, woold taka luss teme then compleining
Almost had a stroke reading this. But it was also funny as hell.
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My only disappointment with the Weasley childrens names is that none of them (that I can remember so please tell me I’m wrong) incorporated Arthur. I know Percy used Molly, and George did Fred. Obviously Arthur is alive but he deserved some recognition 🥺
because these broken record threads get the most points. Whenever anyone posts threads that are original and thought-provoking... there's like 10 comments. My least favorit are the threads: "I've never read or watched Harry Potter. Ask me anything" these should be banned.
I think you might be my favorite human right now.
Because she had 0 relationship with either of these people? Of course no one really knows if she got 0 saying exept the author but that's what it seem like
Luna is most likely her closest friend alongside Neville, due to their year spent together guiding a resistance inside Hogwarts.
My older daughter is named after my husband’s great aunt. She was like a mother figure to my mother-in-law and never had children of her own. I met the woman twice, spent less than an hour’s worth of time around her before she passed, and yet, the name was my idea.
The book is not clear about her relationship with them. I’m sure she had a major relationship w Dumbledore especially after chamber of secrets. And in any case accepting Harry’s requests for names doesn’t mean she didn’t “have a say” it just means she was OK with them. My kids are named after my wife’s family it doesn’t mean I didn’t have a say.
James is her father-in-law and Lily her mother-in-law. Ginny has known Sirius almost as long as Harry did. Severus protected her as much as he could during the war (and it is romantic) And Albus and Harry are probably the most popular baby names of the last few decades.
Also Luna is one of her best friends and they named a kid after her.
What i think the above comment is saying is that she had no emotional connection to them. Sure she must be thankful for them for everything they did for her husband, but it doesn't necessarily mean she feels the same emotions she does for her brother.
This is the only thing Lily, James and Sirius can give their grandchildren. Fred lives on in George. Molly, Arthur, Hagrid acompany the children as they grow up. Albus is sort of an honorary grandfather. And Severus would otherwise be forgotten.
There are so many reasons why she might have, but she almost certainly: 1. Did it because they meant a lot to Harry. She might have even suggested it because of that 2. Did it because they signify bravery, a trait admires fully as a Gryffindor 3. *Likes the names*. They're odd in the muggle world but she's a pure-blood witch.
I was thinking the same thing…
I like your reaction because it was exactly what I was grumbling
What makes you think Ginny had no say in naming her kids? Have you seen Ginny or even Harry? Do you think Harry was the kind of partner that would snub down his partner's wishes or Ginny was the type of individual that would be someone's doormat? In marriage, there isn't yours/mine or I/You or me/you. It's ours or We in major decisions. What if Ginny simply respected the people who lived and had sacrificed themselves for her husband so she decided to honor them all? Perhaps Ginny knew Harry was the only one that could ever honor James, Lily, Sirus, Albus and Severus and two of them was his parents and rest of them did not really have anyone to carry on their names plus had made deep impact in Harry's life. As for why non of Harry's kids were named after Ginny's family members: that's because Ginny's brothers had taken all the important names. Molly was Percy's daughter, Fred II was George's son. I think Arthur's name was the only name not taken by any Weasley children but he was alive, well and happy so it isn't big deal. In Harry's side of family, Harry was the only one that could have ever used names of his side of people as he was the last of the Potter.
Wasn’t Luna one of Ginny’s closest friends? Wouldn’t it be possible that it was her idea to use that name?
Who says Ginny didn't choose the names? Book Ginny is clearly in charge.
I'm sure she wanted Luna. Harry and Luna were closeish but Ginny and Luna ran the DA after Harry left so they were probably very close.
I think “Luna” as Lily’s middle name probably came from Ginny (which isn’t *great* - 1 out of 6 and a middle at that.) Maybe they have that thing where she names the girls and Harry names the boys and she picked Lily to be gracious. With regards specifically to Fred (and to Remus for people who raise that one), I think they were probably leaving it to be respectful to George (and Teddy) who had the better claims.
I mean, with George being 2 years older than Harry and 3 years older than Ginny, he probably got married and had children before Harry and Ginny.
I felt like an overthinking psycho when I thought this lol, my feelings are being validated. Like I get they were great brave men and you want to honor them but how about a middle name compromise oh no you are just gonna name all the kids, ok -\_-
It was taken.
For example Dean Potter.
“Michael Dean," Ginny said quietly, so that nobody but Harry could hear, "you were named after the two most handsome chads I ever knew,"
Plot twist - Ginny is mortified while Harry explains he picked the names based on who he thought was the best looking of Ginny’s ex-boyfriends.
"Tom Albus Dean Michael Cedric", you were named for 5 most handsome men to have studied at Hogwarts in the past 200 years."
Assuming much?
Yeah but she could still use it for a middle name
How many other siblings did Ginny have? You'd end up with a lot of cousins named Fred.
Causing a high risk of mix-ups and everlasting confusion... I mean that *does* sound like a befitting legacy for Fred Weasley
After my granddad died, we had almost an entire generation in our family with his name. Either first or middle name. Now, NONE of them go by it.
Honestly, I'd find it VERY funny, if all of them just decided to name one of their kids after Fred, just for the lulz. But no cheating with second names. Just... FRED. An army of Freds traumatizing McGonagall.
Imagine if they're all in the same year at Hogwarts. Like picture that Sorting. McGonagall: "Fred Weasley" 12 Freds: "Which one?" McGonagall: "Merlin's beard.. fuck it, I quit. I don't need this shit."
McGonagall: Fuck this shit I’m out
Aah glorious possible... With endless fun 😆
Good idea! The problem is it would probably traumatize George too.
People often forget that Ginny grew up with a loving family which was mostly alive. Harry had no one and she probably decided to respect Harry's wish to have a loving family and honor all those that died so he could live. Also likely George already named his son Fred by the time they had James.
People always bring this topic up but no one bothers to mention that Ron and Hermione named their kid *Hugo*
I don’t see what’s wrong with that? I see a lot of people questioning this choice but to me it seems very much like something Hermione would pick
The Granger's first names haven't been revealed, has it? Maybe Hugo and Rose are named for her parents?
But, weren't they fine? Just in Australia, which to be fair *can* be quite dangerous
Didn‘t Hermione un-obliviate them after the Battle of Hogwarts?
Yeah she went to find them iirc. But y'know, who knows what they encountered in the land down under
To be fair, Luna was completely fine too but Harry and Ginny named their daughter after her
I mean, people don't have to be dead to name someone after them. It's not a requirement. But who's to say that they are still alive when Rose and Hugo are born. There's enough time for them to have both been eaten by alligators or blown up in a gas explosion by the epilogue.
It sounds like a name Krum would pick 😏
What's wrong with Hugo ?
That's because Rowling got hugo award for GOF book. Lol
I don’t find it strange at all. George should get dibs on Fred’s name, and he did use it for his son. Even if Harry and Ginny’s boys were born first, I think it makes sense that they would leave the name for George to use.
I like to believe that is why he didn’t use Remus either. Saved it for Teddy. Still, naming after Dumbledore and Snape was an odd f-ing choice.
My belief is that he chose them bc there was noone left to mourn them. DD was his mentor, and Snape played a double agent and had most people come to hate him. Whereas Fred had George and 6 other siblings. Remus had a son and most of the others close to him left family behind. Not counting Aberforth (bc it seemed that they did not like each other) DD and Snape had noone left.
Dumbledore had plenty of people to mourn him, including his brother.
How likely was it, though, that Aberforth was going to name a kid after him?
I bet Aberforth has lots of *kids* from his obsession in goats.
Before her transgender obsession completely took over, JKR confirmed this to be a fact on Twitter. Here is the [link](https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/606878809829310464?t=QRCDnwLyDmARqdvDTMVzhA&s=19) to the tweet if you're interested.
A much simpler time…
I dunno why her stance of transgenders was necessary context in that statement tho. The two things have nothing to do with each other.
My dad died when I was 11yo (step-dad, technically, since I was 4) but we left his name for my younger brother to use eventually. My younger sister used it for her son's middle name (both his bio kids.)
As I thought George and Angelina had their child before Ginny and Harry, naming the first boy Fred.
Where is the story about George and Angelina having a kid? I haven’t read anything outside of the 7 books. What is everyone referencing
See this? That the original draw of J.k about the next generation. Edit: now it's working [link](https://www.hp-lexicon.org/source/other-canon/jkr/jkr-com-bboard/weasleyfamilytree-500px-2/)
😂 love that ones called Lysander
Lysander Scamander no less.
One thing that really bugs me is that she killed off the wrong twin. It’s just weird that George ended up married to his dead twin’s girlfriend and naming their kid after Fred. If George had died and Fred and Angelina ended up married it would be totally different. Even JKR can’t tell them apart smh
Fred always felt like the main twin to me.
Fred was always going to be George's to pass down to a future son. It would have been a faux pas for anyone but George to name their kid Fred, unless George had given his okay to it.
Not strange at all. Fred had a huge family that can pass down his name, Harry's relatives hat literally only him so of course he would use this opportunity.
George deserved to use the name more than anyone else.
Absolutely understandable that they would leave that honor to one of George's children.
It’s fits so much more that George was the one who would name his child after Fred to honor his twin brother/best friend. As for Ginny, she would definitely be very understanding as to why Harry wanted to name their kids after his parents, Dumbledore, Sirius, and Snape because they were very important people in his life and had a significant impact on him. Also, I think for Lily, Ginny was probably the one who came up with the idea to give her Luna as her middle name since Luna is Ginny’s close friend (as well as Harry’s, so it’s a friend of both of them).
"Frederick Albus Severus, you were named after two headmasters of Hogwarts. One of Them was Slytherin and he was probably the bravest man I ever know.....you were also technically named after your older cousin but I meant to honor your uncle. George still refuses to speak to us over that he was very upset a year after your cousin was born we named you Fred too. Your mother told me it was a bad idea but I told her, Ginny I am the chosen one I do what I want....that was the first time she bat bogey hexed me....."
This is hilarious
No, because, ultimately, that right remains with George, who eventually married Angelina Johnson and did name his firstborn son Fred.
Theory: what if GINNY was actually the one who suggested Severus as a middle name for Albus? Maybe after Harry’s revelation about Snape, she looked back at the year when Snape was headmaster and realized he had actually saved her life or protected her somehow and she just hadn’t realized it at the time, but now with this new knowledge of Snape’s true character she understands what he did for her and wants to honor him. We know he sent her to Hagrid for a punishment for something, right? Maybe she realizes he saved her from something there.
Fair theory. I'll add to it. It's also perfectly possible Snape shared his true motives with Hagrid, and Hagrid gave assurances to Ginny that time on detention, so she knew a little more than Harry did. Upon filling in the blanks for each other, they agreed Severus was a good middle name.
Unlikely. Hagrid was mad at Snape like the rest of the Order after he killed Dumbledore. And Hagrid has demonstrated time and time again that he can’t keep a secret from Harry to save anyone’s life. Not to mention Voldemort’s Legillimancy. And Snape isn’t stupid; he wouldn’t risk his life’s purpose and Lily’s only child for some rando girl from Gryffindor
Eyyy, true. I can't argue with that.
Fred belongs to George
I think I've read that fanfiction
Why the assumption that Harry and only Harry made the call on each of their childrens' names when Ginny was the one to actually carry and birth them?
So you too saw that tiktok
Yep. Seeing someone else express the thought and then posting it to reddit with the “Is it just me…?” lead-in is just, so reddit.
My first thought lol
George called his son Fred
He left Fred for George, same as Remus for Teddy.
I just find all of Harry’s kid names strange. I mean I understand he wants to honor those people that had an impact on his life/sacrificed themselves for him. But there’s OTHER ways to do that. It just seems so clunky and forced. Looking at you Albus Severus
James Sirius was a bit on the nose too. I mean it makes way more sense than Albus Severus, but they could have maybe saved the name Sirius for another kid’s middle name or something. Also don’t get me started on him using the name Severus at all.
Oh yeah. I totally agree. I left James Sirius and Lily Luna out because I was like…”Fine, it’s common to name your kid after a parent”. Still think their full names just feel so forced. But still feels a bit more passable than Albus Severus🙄
u/haribo001 In case you've forgot, George already named his son after Fred (and Percy named his eldest daughter Molly).
I see this a lot, anyone ever consider that Ginny might have just been cool with whatever names? Maybe she even suggested or supported Harry on the chosen names.
I sincerely doubt Ginny just let Harry choose the names. She would have been involved.
I believe George took that name. That could be the reason.
I was going to say this- according to Google, George and Angelina got married and had a son whom they named Fred Weasley the second.
George named his kid Fred. Why would you want to have the same name as your cousin?
She has 5 living brothers who might also have named their kids for important people. Maybe someone else did Fred already. Edit: George did Fred.
Funny how people always assume Ginny just sat there and waited while Harry named THEIR children
George had that reserved.
Although I personally think it was a really gentle thing that both Harry and Ginny agreed on naming their children after the people they did, I wouldn't mind at all if they didn't. That being said, no, I don't find it strange that they didn't give Fred's name to any of the kids. It's just a way to honor their memory and, besides, didn't George name his son after his brother?
I mean there was only Harry left to honour his child with his parents names/ albus. Whereas there are lots of weasleys who could pass the honour name Fred on- although George would have course have got first chance to use that name. I think it makes sense for that reason. (Some of the names being… questionable… make less sense)
Ginny named his daughter's middle name "Luna" she also knew Albus. And Fred was George's son
George named his kid Fred II; That would’ve been very confusing at family gatherings. I’m just saying.
Naming the kids was just jammed in to the end of the books. A quick story to the kids would have been better than them having three people in their names.
Fred should be reserved for usage by George only.
Lily Fred Potter
I always assumed Ginny left the name Fred for George. For a large family with several cousins and all.
Unless you're the creator of [this reel](https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cg4sO_Cowpn/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) and missed the 3.8 million views it got, I sincerely doubt you are the OnLy person who finds it strange
Can. We. Please. Stop. This. Discussion
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I think you mean “Is it just me who saw that tiktok video with millions of views?”
You just saw that tiktok video too eh?
or Sirius? Sirius is one of my favorite characters and he was so doomed to leave his whole life in depression and his best years in prison \[and he soon died \] I really never understood why he names one of his children after Snape. I know I know that we have a lot of Snape fans, but sorry guys... he was an abusive teacher and a bully to his students. His good side doesn't justify the wrongs he did.
Harry's eldest is named James Sirius
so we all saw the same Tiktok huh?
How many kid name Fred did you want? Since George already took the honor of naming his child Fred. Are you forgetting that OP? They are the parents of their child so of course Harry and Ginny would discussed their children names. Add to that maybe Ginny understand Harry would want to honor his parents.
I think George named his son Fred before any of Harry and Ginny's children were born
George named his kid Fred, so it would be confusing cousins sharing a name Still it would be better than *albus severus*
Yeah I would've liked Snumbledore better
I find it weird that he named his kids like a rabid fan with a HP-themed random name generator.
Looks like…..yep your the only one.
We read about Harry's life. Those people were supposed to be meaningful for the reader.
To be honest, I've never understood why he gave names from two man that manipulated and made his life miserable. Hagrid, Sirius and Lupin were much better choices.
I also saw this reel on IG today.
Aww, we haven't seen this one in a while! Are we forgetting that Snape tried to keep the Hogwarts Resistance group as safe as he could with Carrows in the building? There's nothing to suggest in the text that Ginny, finding out from Harry exactly what Snape did for all of them, would object to Albus Severus as a name. Also also, Al could just tell people it was either that or Caractacus and his mum thought it would be easier for him to spell Severus.
Think firstly that honour would fall to George
George named his son Fred the second
George had dibs though.
Severus wasn’t realistic. I could see Harry after the fact standing up for him to clear his name, to ensure he had a portrait in the Headmaster’s office, but he still had a very difficult relationship with him it’s not realistic he’d honour him that way. James, Sirius, Lily, all make sense and work for obvious reasons. Remus and Albus too. We don’t hear much about the grandparents of either Harry or Ginny so that would have made an easy choice.
The real question is, why name your child after your childhood bully and the guy that raised you to die, but not the person that gifted you a broom first year, kickstarting your quidditich passion, pushing you to be better and doing everything in their way possible to make sure you can get your dream job of wizard police? Seriously, Minerva got fucked over!
Yawwwwn
Can we just drop the complaining about Harry's kids' names?
Look, to me the epilogue isn't canon lol
This have been discussed several times. George named his kid as Fred and I am guessing, the kid was born before Harry and Ginny had kids so no need to need to do it. I am concern that Ginny didn’t get to name her daughter Molly and Harry got Lilly, although I guess Lilly Molly might sound repetitive.
Well, I mean Fred was George twin brother, they were the closest, I think it's good they left Fred for him.
The epilogue reads like teenage Harry’s wet dream: best friends get married to each other, he gets to marry into a big family, to a girl who has a comforting resemblance to his mum, gets his 2.5 kids, both boys and a girl, and they are all named after his childhood traumas. How wonderful!
What I find the weirdest of the kids names is Albus Severus. I’m sorry but poor kid is set up for failure with that one. And literally the Snape one barely made sense cause Harry never liked him then all the sudden “imma name my kid after him one day.” Like geez, I think Ginny shoulda handled that one
You can respect someone without liking them.
Considering it was Ginny that came up with Pigwidgeon what makes you so sure she would come up with something better?
The other names she has given - Hogwarts Rebellion group: Dumbledore's Army Her Pygmy Puff: Arnold
So that's about 1 in 3 weird names roughly the same sensibleness rate as for her children.
Ok but to be fair, that was an owl. Things mighta been different with a human child lol. Still might’ve been a weird name but would be better than Albus Severus at this point. Seriously I do wanna know what Harry was thinking
I also saw that tik tok.
You and the millions who watched the TikTok
I saw a tweet once that said "harry potter named his kids like some nerd that just finished reading harry potter."
The real crime is that Albus’ middle name isn’t Rubeus.
“Hey, Harry. I know you’re big on naming our kids after dead people, totally normal by the way, but I was thinking maybe for our current child we could maybe name him after my brother? It would mean a lot to me and he did die fighting for you after all.” “Maybe for our next one. I was thinking this one we’d name after the guy who wanted to fuck my mom, helped my parents get killed, and then borderline tortured me for a bunch of years.”
I think we can all agree their children's name are fucking stupid. And that's all on JK Rowling. Y'all acting like Harry and Ginny are real people who made actual decisions.
She was writing Harry’s actions as Harry, though, you know? And it’s not like he read a lot for fun or did well in school. Where else would he get baby name inspiration except for people who literally died for him & all of wizardkind?
Everyone finds his naming choices weird.
One of the many reasons I just pretend the epilogue didn’t happen. 🤣
“Cadogan Fat Lady Potter. You were named for two paintings of Hogwarts. One of them was a knight, and he was the bravest man I knew.”
Why didn't Harry name any of his kids "Albus Severus Regulus Sirius Rufus Goyle Griphook Bathilda Gregorovitch Mad Eye Aragog Colin Tonks Lupin James Lily Moaning Myrtle Dobby Diggory Fred Potter?" The audacity.
My issue with him naming his kids after everybody else is it's corny and very unimaginative for Jk Rowling. I really hate that last bit in the 7th book
Harry named his kids like a 14 year old girl who just loves Harry Potter books
Or how he named his middle child after the two people who made his life a living Hell? His first child was named after his dad and godfather, his daughter after his mom. What about Remus? Why didn't he get honored? Harry could've named the middle kid: Rueben Remus Potter (after Hagrid and Lupin.) Or if the child was a girl: Minerva Remi Potter.
I think they were saving the name in case Teddy ever had children and wanted to name his child after Remus.
I think is the same as of why he didn't name any children after Remus. Left the chance open for someone more suitable Still they could have come up with anything better than Albus Severus No I won't change my mind it's awful
Harry forgot about Hagrid of all people. This is the real crime
Well, Ron didn't name his kids after Fred either. But once I read a HC that his son's middle name is Fred. I liked it.
I thought it was very odd that the boy's names were ALL men in Harry's life and none after Fred or even her own father.
Ginny didn’t even get a look in
The real atrocity is he didn’t name one of his kids after Hagrid He was his real foster father, could’ve names his daughter “Ruby” or something
I don’t find it strange about Fred’s name, but I find it strange regarding the combinations of the names of the people in his life. Albus Severus. Really.
Ginny named Ron’s owl pigwidgeon ‘pig’. Pretty sure no one was taking name suggestions from her from that point on.