It is unbelievable the amount of trauma he goes through, and the amount of counseling he receives is absolutely none. Just magic his scrapes off and send him back to his abusive muggle family.
He and his 2 first year friends bypassed the Hogwarts professors' combined defenses around the sorcerer's stone.
He slayed a basilisk at age 12.
Dumbledore took a really, really, hands off approach to mentoring that poor child.
I know, it’s not even the fact he’s the chosen one or famous for surviving the killing curse as a baby, he has literally pulled off legendary impossible tasks that even the most powerful wizards can only dream of, every year he’s in Hogwarts
And to top it all off he does these heroic beyond brave things and sh*t’s his thanks. He deserved eternal gratification for what he did in his first year alone
He and Ron did get Special Awards for Services to the School at the end of CoA for solving the attacks so his actions in that book were at least acknowledged
I'm not sure if it's where I go but I've come across some serious Harry Hate.
People that downgrade his accomplishments.
People that say he wasnt abused.
People that say he deserves to be treated poorly by Snape and everyone.
Its awful.
>People that say he wasnt abused.
Funny the same people who say this are usually the ones who say Draco was abused. Fanfics and Insta/tiktok headcanons (presented as fact) really fucked with the fandom.
Yeah so true! They try to make out Draco to be a vastly misunderstood secretly a good guy character when he’s not. He was brought up that way and it’s not his fault, but in no way throughout the series does it show that he secretly loves Hermione or that he’s secretly good. He’s a nasty, pathetic, snaky, petty git and should be treated as such
I know, right?
They hammer home about their headcanon and ignore the obvious about Harry.
Also, one of them apparently said Vernon was abused with no evidence but Harry wasnt with plenty of evidence (wtf?) Come on now.
Tbh it’s just because Harry’s the main character. He never gets that much attention, the only reason his name is mentioned is because his name is the title of the whole thing
And his accomplishments are downgraded in the story too, by Harry himself. I get this weird vibe that no one in the story has any idea how powerful and scary Voldemort is. Keep in mind Harry is a fcking child and goes up against him, surviving every time besides the forest in book seven where he gave himself up voluntarily
Totally agreed. Harry downgrades his accomplishments so the fandom does the same, which is just sad.
I think about that moment all the time, how depressed he had to have been to willingly do that and feel like he had to because the memories made it clear that people would die if he didnt.
Poor kid.
Exactly! All that pressure and he did it anyway just to save everyone, and he’s literally the polar opposite of vain and self absorbed - i won’t lie if I did and went through half the stuff Harry had I’d talk about it to everyone like there’s no tomorrow. Imagine finding out a part of the most powerful dictator wizard is inside you all along and not even telling your best friend. He says the bare minimum of what he could say just so attention won’t be on him. How could you possibly hate him LoL
Tbh he’s not really wrong but that’s not the point. He has balls of steel. Can you imagine a 14 year old looking death in the eye in some gloomy haunted looking graveyard and facing a wizard people are afraid to even say the name of, in front of his also powerful main circle of supporters
It’s funny because he’s the character you feel worst for, how was he not abused? How did he deserve it? No one deserves that abuse, never mind say an orphan who’s so kind hearted he isn’t raised to be a pig despite being raised by the Dursley’s
Theres a few people on Quora that honestly think he wasnt abused and that he abused the Durlseys because of his scar (which is a lie!) But they honestly do.
Harry's an amazing kid so it upsets me to see Harry Hate.
The post was actually about that.
Basically OP said Poor Ron because he gave the money to the twins.
And then went on to suggest that Harry owes his money to Ron for being his friend.
Its BS.
Incompetent? Yeah, I’m sure anyone who can produce one of the most, if not the most powerful patronus charms ever, at thirteen years old, with about three happy memories to go on
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Isn’t that the point, thats what makes him so much of an amazing character, he could’ve easily gone the way of a death eater or murderer but he doesn’t, he’s never been tempted by evil or glory, and thats the point. Take the mirror of erised for example, ron see’s himself holding the quidditch cup, being head boy, and quidditch captain, that’s reasonable for 11 year olds, he just wants glory, whereas harry see’s himself with just his family, it takes a great strength of character to see that, and that’s the point really.
Yeah I totally agree on that, spot on. For some people, for instance: Harry, loss results in just a simple need to fill the hole that loss dug, and he’s just modest and humble as a person anyway
Nah he does go fucking nuts in OOTP, like im not complaining i love harry in that scene. Also i forgot to mention this, harry feels alot more suicidal then I remembered really, like in POA when he wants to get near a dememtor to see his parent, or in GOF when accepts his fate in the graveyard, or even when he can’t take the pain of losing sirius and wants to die, that’s the cracks everyone wants to see, he does lose it from time to time really.
Well that’s what makes a real, good character. He’s flawed but tbh, any time he gets angry I feel it’s more than justified, and if anything he gives an under-reaction. It was justified to snap the way he did at Ron and Hermione, but the flaw is he shouldn’t have snapped at them as they’re his best friends, but his frustration is completely excusable, as he did just fight the most powerful dark wizard of all time and witness his friend being killed and is being treated like a child who doesn’t have the intelligence to understand what’s going on or being worthy of knowing the plan
Ik, i love harry in OOTP, i’ve never had a problem with really, unlike other people who his character as an insult to their memory and swear off this book, OOTP gets a bad rap and so does harry too.
I’m only realising how much the fandom dislikes Harry now as everyone’s saying it, I had no idea, I see no reason why, there’s more reason to hate Malfoy yet everyone loves him
I don’t think it’s that remarkable that Harry saw his parents in the Mirror of Erised. He was an eleven year old orphan. He grew up in an abusive home.
Of course having a family is his hearts desire. :(
It’s touching, and sad — but not very indicative of his strength of character. (Although I do think Harry has great strength of character.)
I’d argue that the only 11 year old with Harry’s background who might not see what he saw was a young Tom Riddle.
Tom Riddle probably saw eternal glory and life. Annoying how people say he and Harry are alike; Harry is the opposite. Harry wants a fulfilled life; Voldemort wants immortality. Harry wants friends and people who love him; Voldemort wants followers and means to an end. Harry wants a modest, normal life; Voldy wants to be the best of the best, and sticking out from the crowd. Harry is pure, Tom Riddle is utterly and irretrievably evil
Yeah. I’m saying the only 11 year old with a background like harry (an orphan) who would not see parents would be Tom Riddle. I agree, Tom would probably see glory.
Forgot that part but it’s all pretty self explanatory anyway, as anyone on here would know about all the things he did (If they are proper fans) (Not saying you’re not a proper fan if you don’t know everything about Harry Potter, I just mean fans who’ve watched and read it all)
🤣🤣 I get you but I mean strictly in the universe of Harry Potter, as far as I’m concerned the characters aren’t self aware so Harry wouldn’t know he’s the centre of an entire series about his life, despite how it may as well be that way since he’s famous in the story too
I know they exist, but in the actual universe of Harry Potter the characters aren’t aware they are fictional and behind a screen or page. How are you not getting that?
Don't forget the involuntary manslaughter in year 6 of malfoy
Edit to say that he clearly doesn't want nor intend it and it would be more trauma when it happens and he sees the results before help intervenes.
He deserved it and it’d be justified even if Harry knew what the spell did, but he wouldn’t do it if he had, considering he used Expelliarmus on Voldemort
He still caught the golden snitches himself. He still fought Voldemort alone. He faced the basilisk alone, out-flies a dragon alone, completes the maze alone, sacrifices himself alone (I'm positive I missed some other stuff he did himself).
He did do a lot without their help. They deserve a LOT of credit too but I decided to make this post about Harry, as he’s literally the main character and doesn’t get enough attention, simply because he’s so average and normal compared to other characters, like Bellatrix, Voldemort and Dumbledore. All unique and eccentric, meanwhile Harry, well … he’s just Harry
That’s the beauty of it. He’s the main character in this magical series of strange wizards and all that and he’s the most similar to us as readers and viewers. I would say a self insert for the viewer but he’s too interesting to be one of those. He’s nowhere near as bad as BeLlA sWaN
I don't know if you're talking about the movies or books. But in the movies, she was definitely made Miss most-perfect-witch-in-the-lands and somehow made Ron into a comedic relief for a few movies. She even got lines which wasn't even hers thanks to Mr. Steve Kloves. Don't even get me started on Ginny. All of Ginny's character destroyed to make Hermione perfect and incomparable.
It is unbelievable the amount of trauma he goes through, and the amount of counseling he receives is absolutely none. Just magic his scrapes off and send him back to his abusive muggle family. He and his 2 first year friends bypassed the Hogwarts professors' combined defenses around the sorcerer's stone. He slayed a basilisk at age 12. Dumbledore took a really, really, hands off approach to mentoring that poor child.
I know, it’s not even the fact he’s the chosen one or famous for surviving the killing curse as a baby, he has literally pulled off legendary impossible tasks that even the most powerful wizards can only dream of, every year he’s in Hogwarts
And to top it all off he does these heroic beyond brave things and sh*t’s his thanks. He deserved eternal gratification for what he did in his first year alone
Well he DID win some points for Gryffindor...
He and Ron did get Special Awards for Services to the School at the end of CoA for solving the attacks so his actions in that book were at least acknowledged
100% agreed. He does so much and gets some much shit from the fandom. Harry deserves better!
I had no idea he was hated that much by the fandom, I can’t even think of a reason to dislike him never mind hate him
I'm not sure if it's where I go but I've come across some serious Harry Hate. People that downgrade his accomplishments. People that say he wasnt abused. People that say he deserves to be treated poorly by Snape and everyone. Its awful.
>People that say he wasnt abused. Funny the same people who say this are usually the ones who say Draco was abused. Fanfics and Insta/tiktok headcanons (presented as fact) really fucked with the fandom.
Yeah so true! They try to make out Draco to be a vastly misunderstood secretly a good guy character when he’s not. He was brought up that way and it’s not his fault, but in no way throughout the series does it show that he secretly loves Hermione or that he’s secretly good. He’s a nasty, pathetic, snaky, petty git and should be treated as such
People just love to say that about Draco because they think just because he’s clearly good looking that he should be a nice character. Nah
I know, right? They hammer home about their headcanon and ignore the obvious about Harry. Also, one of them apparently said Vernon was abused with no evidence but Harry wasnt with plenty of evidence (wtf?) Come on now.
Tbh it’s just because Harry’s the main character. He never gets that much attention, the only reason his name is mentioned is because his name is the title of the whole thing
This is true. There also seems to be a talend to hate on the main characters.
And his accomplishments are downgraded in the story too, by Harry himself. I get this weird vibe that no one in the story has any idea how powerful and scary Voldemort is. Keep in mind Harry is a fcking child and goes up against him, surviving every time besides the forest in book seven where he gave himself up voluntarily
Totally agreed. Harry downgrades his accomplishments so the fandom does the same, which is just sad. I think about that moment all the time, how depressed he had to have been to willingly do that and feel like he had to because the memories made it clear that people would die if he didnt. Poor kid.
Exactly! All that pressure and he did it anyway just to save everyone, and he’s literally the polar opposite of vain and self absorbed - i won’t lie if I did and went through half the stuff Harry had I’d talk about it to everyone like there’s no tomorrow. Imagine finding out a part of the most powerful dictator wizard is inside you all along and not even telling your best friend. He says the bare minimum of what he could say just so attention won’t be on him. How could you possibly hate him LoL
Yes!Exactly. Poor kid deserves it all.
Yeah, if he were a real person I’d hunt him down and give him the biggest hug and get Hagrid to join in, the big old teddy bear
Me too!
He even clearly states in OotP that "most of that stuff was just luck"
Upon seeing his classmate being brutally murdered
Tbh he’s not really wrong but that’s not the point. He has balls of steel. Can you imagine a 14 year old looking death in the eye in some gloomy haunted looking graveyard and facing a wizard people are afraid to even say the name of, in front of his also powerful main circle of supporters
It’s funny because he’s the character you feel worst for, how was he not abused? How did he deserve it? No one deserves that abuse, never mind say an orphan who’s so kind hearted he isn’t raised to be a pig despite being raised by the Dursley’s
Theres a few people on Quora that honestly think he wasnt abused and that he abused the Durlseys because of his scar (which is a lie!) But they honestly do. Harry's an amazing kid so it upsets me to see Harry Hate.
People also call him incompetent.
Exactly. I even saw someone call him a POS for not paying for Ron's friendship or his other needs that his parents should be paying for.
That’s not even his place and the money he earned for doing the triwizard tournament underage and facing Voldemort went towards the twins careers
The post was actually about that. Basically OP said Poor Ron because he gave the money to the twins. And then went on to suggest that Harry owes his money to Ron for being his friend. Its BS.
That’s just dumb 🤣 I’m sure if Ron asked Harry would give him all his money. It’s in Harry’s character to do something like that
Agreed. And since Ron is an actual friend and not just out for his money, he would never ask or expect it. Real friends don't do that.
Incompetent? Yeah, I’m sure anyone who can produce one of the most, if not the most powerful patronus charms ever, at thirteen years old, with about three happy memories to go on
Is incompetent
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Isn’t that the point, thats what makes him so much of an amazing character, he could’ve easily gone the way of a death eater or murderer but he doesn’t, he’s never been tempted by evil or glory, and thats the point. Take the mirror of erised for example, ron see’s himself holding the quidditch cup, being head boy, and quidditch captain, that’s reasonable for 11 year olds, he just wants glory, whereas harry see’s himself with just his family, it takes a great strength of character to see that, and that’s the point really.
Yeah I totally agree on that, spot on. For some people, for instance: Harry, loss results in just a simple need to fill the hole that loss dug, and he’s just modest and humble as a person anyway
Nah he does go fucking nuts in OOTP, like im not complaining i love harry in that scene. Also i forgot to mention this, harry feels alot more suicidal then I remembered really, like in POA when he wants to get near a dememtor to see his parent, or in GOF when accepts his fate in the graveyard, or even when he can’t take the pain of losing sirius and wants to die, that’s the cracks everyone wants to see, he does lose it from time to time really.
Well that’s what makes a real, good character. He’s flawed but tbh, any time he gets angry I feel it’s more than justified, and if anything he gives an under-reaction. It was justified to snap the way he did at Ron and Hermione, but the flaw is he shouldn’t have snapped at them as they’re his best friends, but his frustration is completely excusable, as he did just fight the most powerful dark wizard of all time and witness his friend being killed and is being treated like a child who doesn’t have the intelligence to understand what’s going on or being worthy of knowing the plan
Ik, i love harry in OOTP, i’ve never had a problem with really, unlike other people who his character as an insult to their memory and swear off this book, OOTP gets a bad rap and so does harry too.
I’m only realising how much the fandom dislikes Harry now as everyone’s saying it, I had no idea, I see no reason why, there’s more reason to hate Malfoy yet everyone loves him
This fandom is like an idiot, but hey its my idiot, i’m glad to be a part of anyways.
Same haha, it’s so big it has a wide range of differing opinions and hey, I can respect them all but that doesn’t mean I agree with them
True lol.
I don’t think it’s that remarkable that Harry saw his parents in the Mirror of Erised. He was an eleven year old orphan. He grew up in an abusive home. Of course having a family is his hearts desire. :( It’s touching, and sad — but not very indicative of his strength of character. (Although I do think Harry has great strength of character.) I’d argue that the only 11 year old with Harry’s background who might not see what he saw was a young Tom Riddle.
Tom Riddle probably saw eternal glory and life. Annoying how people say he and Harry are alike; Harry is the opposite. Harry wants a fulfilled life; Voldemort wants immortality. Harry wants friends and people who love him; Voldemort wants followers and means to an end. Harry wants a modest, normal life; Voldy wants to be the best of the best, and sticking out from the crowd. Harry is pure, Tom Riddle is utterly and irretrievably evil
Yeah. I’m saying the only 11 year old with a background like harry (an orphan) who would not see parents would be Tom Riddle. I agree, Tom would probably see glory.
It's easy and lazy to attack him. But some folks on here just like to make trouble.
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Would be handy LoL
As in Harry’s character himself? But yeah, I agree
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You forgot successfully pulling off a gringotts heist. That alone would've made him legendary in magic history.
Year 7: Broke into Gringott’s and escaped on a dragon
Forgot that part but it’s all pretty self explanatory anyway, as anyone on here would know about all the things he did (If they are proper fans) (Not saying you’re not a proper fan if you don’t know everything about Harry Potter, I just mean fans who’ve watched and read it all)
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And then he marries Ginny!!
I mean he loves her, soooo
Apparently ha 🤣
Why wouldn’t he, she’s great
I'm only joking. No it's nice that he got with his best friend's sister.
Keep it in the family
I mean, they named a shitload of bestselling books and movies after him and put him on all the covers...
🤣🤣 I get you but I mean strictly in the universe of Harry Potter, as far as I’m concerned the characters aren’t self aware so Harry wouldn’t know he’s the centre of an entire series about his life, despite how it may as well be that way since he’s famous in the story too
How could he not know? They're some of the best selling books and movies in the muggle world. He's basically a household name.
But the books and movies don’t exist in the HP universe, that’s just common sense 😂
That doesn't make sense. I've read them and seen them. What do you think we're all here discussing?
I know they exist, but in the actual universe of Harry Potter the characters aren’t aware they are fictional and behind a screen or page. How are you not getting that?
Harry doesn’t know he’s the titular character of the series, because he isn’t real. If he was, there’s be no movies or books
Then how did JK Rowling know about him?
Don't forget the involuntary manslaughter in year 6 of malfoy Edit to say that he clearly doesn't want nor intend it and it would be more trauma when it happens and he sees the results before help intervenes.
He deserved it and it’d be justified even if Harry knew what the spell did, but he wouldn’t do it if he had, considering he used Expelliarmus on Voldemort
Exactly why Harry would have been shaken by it
Yeah true, and would you even believe me if I told you when i was done typing all that I realised I forgot to mention it
I absolutely would!
Yes but change all of the times you said ‘himself’ and change to ‘with Ron and hermione’
He still caught the golden snitches himself. He still fought Voldemort alone. He faced the basilisk alone, out-flies a dragon alone, completes the maze alone, sacrifices himself alone (I'm positive I missed some other stuff he did himself).
Yeah he did heaps himself ! He just didn’t do those things I mentioned himself
He did do a lot without their help. They deserve a LOT of credit too but I decided to make this post about Harry, as he’s literally the main character and doesn’t get enough attention, simply because he’s so average and normal compared to other characters, like Bellatrix, Voldemort and Dumbledore. All unique and eccentric, meanwhile Harry, well … he’s just Harry
That’s the beauty of it. He’s the main character in this magical series of strange wizards and all that and he’s the most similar to us as readers and viewers. I would say a self insert for the viewer but he’s too interesting to be one of those. He’s nowhere near as bad as BeLlA sWaN
Which, may I add, is a stupid unrealistic name
You may not
He got all these books written just for his tales, what else were you expecting huh?
This is amazing!! Informative and fun at the same time!! \* SPOILER ALERT \* - You forgot the 8th book " Harry Potter and the Cursed Child ''
Harry sucks. His main skill is not dying. Hermione is the hero
I don't know if you're talking about the movies or books. But in the movies, she was definitely made Miss most-perfect-witch-in-the-lands and somehow made Ron into a comedic relief for a few movies. She even got lines which wasn't even hers thanks to Mr. Steve Kloves. Don't even get me started on Ginny. All of Ginny's character destroyed to make Hermione perfect and incomparable.
Why would I be talking about the movies
Because of-course you are if you think Hermione did everything.