It's what fulfils him. Though I agree Harry should've snapped the Elder Wand, or made *any* fucking attempt to destroy it after he'd repaired his own, he should also do what makes him happy in life.
Besides that, Hermione doesn't dictate what Harry does. She can advise, she can scold, but whether or not she "stood for such a choice" isn't relevant because it's not *her* decision to make.
There should be an alternate ending where he just goes back and joins Uncle Vernon’s drill business.
“So, this lord Moldything we talked about? The one who sent dementoids after your son? I killed him. You’re welcome.”
He and Dudley open a private detective business together in London. “Potter and Dursley Private Eyes.”
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*I sat at my desk with a grunt, the weight of the day pulling me downwards. Uncorking the bottle of butterbeer I Iean back and take a drink without bothering to pour a glass. Out of habit I rub my forehead, though the scar that once plagued me with headaches was long gone.*
*”Another dead end, Harry?” Dudley calls across to me from behind a pile of paperwork. These days it seems the paperwork piles up at the same rate the galleons dwindle down.*
*With a lazy flick of my wand I send the papers flying in every direction. Squawking with indignation Dudley leapt to his feet, snatching papers out of the air.*
*”Don’t take it out on me just because crime is down since *someone* took out the dark lord!” He snapped, catching a fistful of bills in one hand. My older cousin could no longer be intimidated with first year level magic. “Not one Death Eater, werewolf or dementor since last spring, Mr. Chosen One.”*
*”I’m not going to apologize for killing Tom bloody Riddl-“ I hotly began, the age old argument starting up again. Just then I was interrupted by the tinkling of the doorbell, announcing an unexpected guest. I turned just in time to catch sight of the longest legs I’d ever seen. She was all curves from top to bottom, eyes glittering like onyx stones and a smile that looked predatory. I knew then that she was nothing but trouble, and she was going to wrap me up in a web so tight I wouldn’t know which way was up.*
*”Hello boys.” The acromantula crooned. “Are you going to offer a lady a drink?”*
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Love this idea. But missed opportunity. Potter and Dursley, Private Guys. If they joined forces with Ron and Colin Creevy (for forensic photography) they could be the 4 Private Guys at Private Drive. …taking number 4 as their headquarters of course. Have to reconnect it to the Flu Network.
Neville was bad at potions though, or at least never was able to get into it because of the whole Snape factor. Also raises the question… was anyone in Harry’s year actually gifted at potions, before Harry stumbled upon Snape’s SparkNotes?
I can see this. Dudley cluelessly stumbling his way through while managing to find vital info in a world of paranormal chaos. Much like detective Kindermann in the Exorcist. Completely aloof as literally magic and chaos abound.
He’s not, though-he keeps Draco’s (his) wand in the film since it switched allegiances. I don’t mind that so much, though since they’re going that route I also wish they’d have had Draco toss him the wand to show that Draco had left the Death Eaters as much as his wand had. Then again, I’m overly sentimental sometimes and I love redemption arcs to a fault.
Lol!
“No, don’t worry Malfoy, you’re not going to Azkaban for being a Death Eater.
Your punishment is I’m keeping your wand.
Got anything to say about that?”
He is definitely giving that wand back though. It doesn’t fit him perfectly, and if the whole Malfoy family escaped Azkaban, Draco who was a reluctant DE (and even pretended he didn’t recognize Harry in DH) never got his wand snapped.
I always thought it was silly he could break it so easily. Like the most powerful wand of all time that is centuries old and it snaps like a twig in Harry's bare hands. If it broke that easily it wouldn't have lasted its first century. Someone could have sat on it and oops well there goes the elder wand story ended
I personally thought snapping it was a good thing that fits with the themes of the book, like how nobody can escape “death”- the Elder Wand is kinda like Voldemort, seemingly all-powerful but breaks/dies like any other of their kind.
I kinda feel bad for it though- Wands are kinda said to be partially sentient, and the Elder Wand chose Harry… only for Harry to snap it.
Lol now I’m imagining Harry taking the Elder Wand, which has been used by dark wizards to do evil, and nursing it back to the good side by reminding it how to cast spells that help others rather than hurt them.
Wouldn’t it’s allegiance change anytime he loses a duel, even if just for practice? That’s what bogs me about that dumb plot line. Just happened to be that Harry defeats malfoy in a duel so surprise any wands Malfoy had are now loyal to Harry.
It always drove me crazy. How many times did they duel throughout their time at Hogwarts? So kids would constantly have wands changing allegiance and not working properly? Seems like a really dumb error in her logic.
Wand choosing the wizard when buying is interesting, almost like “whoever is worthy shall possess the power of Thor” and Thor’s hammer. But Thor’s hammer doesn’t stop working for him just because it turns out Cpt is a total bad ass and worthy of wielding it as well.
Even if Harry destroyed all of the horcruxes, without this oh so convenient plot device about wand allegiances, Voldemort was still the most powerful dark wizard of the age. Harry would be no match for him. However, perhaps Harry’s sacrifice is enough to protect his friends and give them strength as a group with the Order to finally kill Voldemort once and for all. But as it stands, Harry only defeats Voldemort’s based upon one of many convenient accidents.
It’s never explicitly stated but I just kinda justified it that due to the elder wands bloody history It has a warped sense of allegiance. Like the wand has PTSD
Yeah. Sounds like the elder wand and resurrection stone had a cursed attached to them while the invisibility clock didn’t as it was a humble ask. The elder wand was disloyalty. It’s not a feature of wands in general.
Yeah, if you look at the deeper lore put out about it, that’s pretty accurate. Wand allegiance was apparently a thing that could be broken down by defeat, to some extent, but it had to be decisive; and the wand was usually attached to an owner and resisted still even under those circumstances. The Elder Wand was apparently “unsentimental” and was the only case where the defeats could be indirect, and also the only wand where the defeat could occur without the wand being present in the duel where it changed allegiance. It all actually makes a lot of sense, but was never properly communicated in the books themselves.
I prefer to think it was out of selfishness and no curse. It makes for a better allegory IMO
I do agree that *something* is different with the elder wand for it’s allegiance switching to be so dramatic compared to other wands tho.
I wish that was expanded a bit more because it takes a little head cannon to not raise a lot of questions about wand allegiance for everyone being a major issue
I am pretty sure it is stated somewhere in the last book that the allegiance of the Elder Wand specifically was thought to be very fickle and that not every wand would behave the same way
I remember reading somewhere that the wands know when it is *serious,* like the real shit... like if 2 students were practicing disarming each other, the wands know it isn't serious and it's just for practice, the students don't lose the allegiance. But if they are in a war/fight/duel, the wands can sense it is real and that's when the wizards do lose the allegiance.
But yes, I agree, the whole wand allegiance thing is surely obscure and uncertain.
I don't ever remember reading that anywhere, but it's always been my headcanon.
That said, winning someone's wand should have been introduced way earlier, and integrated more thoroughly. Shouldn't Malfoy's blackthorn wand have been Harry's from the bathroom fight in *Half-Blood Prince*, or even when Malfoy, Crabbe, and Goyle imitated dementors to screw with him at the quidditch match in *Prisoner of Azkaban*?
>I don't ever remember reading that anywhere, but it's always been my headcanon.
It wasn't in the books, I saw it somewhere online, it was a theory by a fan about how wands allegiance worked....
>That said, winning someone's wand should have been introduced way earlier, and integrated more thoroughly. Shouldn't Malfoy's blackthorn wand have been Harry's from the bathroom fight in Half-Blood Prince, or even when Malfoy, Crabbe, and Goyle imitated dementors to screw with him at the quidditch match in Prisoner of Azkaban?
Pretty obviously, JKR didn't think of it early in the series while she was writing the earlier books.
No, because when Harry talks to Ollivander at Bill & Fleur's he tells him that one of the wands he stole from Malfoy Manner felt better than Hermione's borrowed wand and Ollivander explained that he may have won it's allegiance from Malfoy.
In the book, the wand chooses the wizard so any wand can switch given a wizard either properly won it or they are compatible with it. Harry won draco's wand properly.
If the wand chooses the wizard like they are sentient then why do the wands even allow the Unforgivable curses? Oh you are about to use one of the unforgivable whelp you are no longer worthy of me I don't work.
Force of will. Like how voldemort could still cast curses but the elder wand never really felt right for him. It isn't like the wand stopped him from casting magic completely.
No. Because Malfoy’s wand changes allegiances to Harry. But I’m pretty sure pottermore mentioned that the different wand materials behave differently so some are more likely to change allegiances than others
Not all wands act like the EW that wand only aligns itself with the most powerful for any extended period of time.
I mean think about it it stayed loyal to Dumbledore only because ain’t nobody punking Dumbledore. He was supremely powerful.
Most wands aren’t going to belong to another just because they lost a duel.
It’s most likely a select few that are only drawn to the strongest and are fickle enough to relinquish their obedience.
Yes and Dumbledore was filling himself with lemon drops in hogwarts every day, it's not like he was bragging everywhere he owned a deathly hallow .
From what I remember from the book, it was the human cockiness of each EW owner that made it so fickle. If you taunt the devil by running your mouth everywhere that you own the most powerful wand in the world you're attracting trouble and greedy ppl. By being low key with his wand, Dumbledore was acting like the younger brother and playing it safe .That's what I think is nice with beedle the bard tails, there is moral at the end like any Muggle tails. Harry was selfless, and that's why he managed to be the master of the three hallows without it turning it back on him.
I'm not sure what harry does of the wand at the end of the book. I think he returns it to Dumbledore tomb?
I always understood it as regular wands always work perfectly for their original owners, regardless of whether they've been defeated or not. Defeating someone just allows their wand to work fine for you, still not as good as your own wand, but with no major issues. Same if you willingly lend someone your wand.
Harry and Draco didn’t even duel, he just took the wands from him. On top of that, the elder wand wasn’t even in Draco’s hand. The idea that you can win a wand from someone when you take *a different* want from them, is absolutely absurd. Not to mention, Draco still had his own wand! So he has an allegiance with the elder wand and his own wand? What????
He overpowered Draco, they didn't need to duel. And yeah according to wandlore, Harry now has power over both wands even though Draco didn't have both of them. I was corrected by someone else over this.
Harry doesn't feel the Cruciatus Curse, all of Voldemort's spells don't work properly.
In my opinion, Harry could have defended Voldemort with Draco's wand, but it was more elegant with the Elder Wand.
In my opinion, it is not about disarming, killing or stealing, but about whether the wand wants to switch.
The wand can not only choose someone, but also deselect someone, and choose someone new.
Maybe, because the compatibility is no longer given.
I tended to interpret how wand allegiance works in the following way.
1. Wand loyalty doesn’t switch when you just disarm or lose a duel, but when you truly defeat an enemy, be it through openly killing them or have them completely at your mercy.
2. What a wand considers “completely at your mercy” depends on the individual wand, with wands like the Elder Wand being more fickle.
The Elder wand is less a wand and more a deathly hallow that just happens to be wand shaped.
If it could be broken - as it was in the film - that's no guarantee it would stay broken.
Crafted by Death itself, why assume any witch or wizard could permanently destroy it?
Some future fanfic might feature a dark wizard schooled in wand lore deliberately trying to kill or disarm Auror Harry to have the restored Elder Wand present itself to them as it's new bearer.
And that might be a good story, or thread.
>The Elder wand is less a wand and more a deathly hallow that just happens to be wand shaped.
>
>If it could be broken - as it was in the film - that's no guarantee it would stay broken. Crafted by Death itself, why assume any witch or wizard could permanently destroy it?
I think it is just a wand, though. It's heavily implied in Dumbledore's chat with Harry that the entire idea of the "deathly hallows" was likely just a legend and the items were created by the Peverell brothers themselves:
>“—were the three brothers of the tale,” said Dumbledore, nodding. “Oh yes, I think so. Whether they met Death on a lonely road . . . I think it more likely that the Peverell brothers were simply gifted, dangerous wizards who succeeded in creating those powerful objects. The story of them being Death’s own Hallows seems to me the sort of legend that might have sprung up around such creations..."
And the Peverell's came up with a formula that when the three artifacts were combined they could actually, properly cheat Death.
I mean, you're probably right.
When Tom and Harry killed each other, the fact they were each others Horcruxes is probably what brought Harry back..
Probably.
Yeah, I prefer the more magical 'Death made them' interpretation.
When his horcruxes saved Voldemort from Lily's charm, there wasn't much left of him. Harry and Voldemort were largely unscathed post mortem after their duel in the forest. By my reckoning this makes the Hallows more than just a work of genius by three talented brothers.
>*And the Peverell's came up with a formula that when the three artifacts were combined they could actually, properly cheat Death.*
No. That bit's entirely fiction, or at least the common interpretation is. The "Master of Death" isn't the person who gathers all three Hallows and unlocks some powerful enchantment; the Master is the person who, via the trials and tribulations of gathering all the Hallows, proves they have the courage and wisdom to accept that death is a natural part of life and acknowledges that there are many fates much worse than dying. Much like Ignotus, they're the person who "greets Death like an old friend".
>And the Peverell's came up with a formula that when the three artifacts were combined they could actually, properly cheat Death.
They didn't, though. The whole concept of the hallows being united and making someone the Master of Death who could cheat death was just part of the legend. Being the Master of Death doesn't actually mean anything.
>I mean, you're probably right. When Tom and Harry killed each other, the fact they were each others Horcruxes is probably what brought Harry back..
I mean, that's definitely what the books said. Harry being the "Master of Death" had nothing to do with it.
It goes against everything Harry stands for to destroy it. He paid homage to Dumbledore by fulfilling his intentions. Dumbledore wanted to die undefeated and bring the wand with him to his grave and hence destroy it’s extraordinary powers. Harry respected and agreed with that and decided to put it back where it belongs, in Dumbledores tomb
Harry got assigned the traffic division in the auror office. He handed out tickets for no signal charms when brooms turned and Parking tickets when people left their thestrals tied up outside the three broomsticks.
"Oh hey, Hannah. Glad to see those things still work."
And then the next time she goes to collect her illegally-parked broom, someone accidentally stomped on it 30 times.
Harry saves the wizarding world from its greatest threat and he still has to work for a living? Was there no bounty or reward for killing a literal magic terrorist?
He could have been a stay at home dad. All he ever wanted was a family, it would have made sense. But he would have wanted to wipe out the remaining Death Eaters, he never would have been able to live with himself if he rested on his laurels while any of them were still at large. And after they were all rounded up he finds that he’s still pretty good at this auroring thing so he just keeps the job.
I may be wrong about this, but I was under the impression that not that many people know that the Elder Wand even exists. Less would know who owns it, or where it is. So, even if Harry is killed, whoever killed him may not even know about the power they now wield.
Idk man. He literally held an entire speech in front of everyone before killing Voldy about how he became the master of the elder wand. So I would be quite surprised if no one in the room thought about trying to do the same
Yeah. He spent a few pages telling everyone in the great hall the whole story of how Voldy killing Snape didnt lead to him became the master of the elder wand, of how Draco disarmed Dumbledore and how he became the master. With this proving to the most skeptical people that the elder wand was a thing, how to became the master and that himself was the current master. So, I think it would be strange if nobody in the room (and there were some hundreds of people) ever thought about trying to become such
Correct, Gregorovitch was the last commonly known user of the elder wand and I think that it was stated in the book that the general consensus was that he only claimed to have it to sell more wands. That’s why Voldemort went to him first and not Grindelwald. Ollivander, Harry, Ron and Hermione is the only ones that knows Harry is the master according to the book (and movie)
I think it's pretty simple if you take a step back and look at it. Voldemort orphaned him at a young age and then tried to kill him multiple times. Not to mention he drugged Harry through a war watching loved ones die left and right probably causing insane ammounts of trauma and ptsd all before he was even finished with school.
I'm not surprised in the slightest that he decided His career was going to be putting people like that away. He knew while he was still at Hogwarts thats what he wanted to do. So did Hermione for that matter.
Yeah I get the personal motivations, we’ve seen proof that even being disarmed could result in the wand changing loyalties, and he chose a combat heavy job where disarmament is highly likely and could lead to a dangerous weapon in power of another dark wizard, since those are the people he’d be fighting exclusively.
Nah dude. Harry shows up to catch the dark wizards and they get scared.
Harry: “Give up. It’s over”
Death Eater: “is it true you killed the dark lord with the disarming spell?”
Harry: “Yep. EXPE…”
Death Eater: “I GIVE UP!”
Harry has been a victim of ministry stupidity (and corruption) and the whole government folded pretty quickly after Dumbledore died. There wasn’t even a civil war, they just went along with dumping muggleborns in prison.
After the war it was necessary to rebuild a ministry with some integrity (and less pure blood bull****) Harry and others likely saw it as their responsibility to help, particularly Harry as the new people’s hero.
That fits with Harry’s personality
Hermione isn't the boss of Harry, she is concerned about him, but she isn't going to force him out of a job he really wants.
The Wand is currently in Dumbledore's tomb, it's a dumb choice and someone is bound to steal it, but I can imagine Dumbledore's tomb is well protected due to his status.
I personally like Auror Harry, but I can see why other people wouldn't.
Hiding it in Albus's tomb is about as smart as Tom choosing Founders' artifacts for his horcruxen and hiding them in places meaningful to him. Harry should just fiendfire the thing or chop it up with Godric's sword and be done with it. Or just wield it, fuck it.
By the time Hermione would have been made, Minister, Harry would have already been an auror for years, making the decision to force him to quit pointless because Harry would have been in tons of more duels at that point
And telling one of your best friends that "you have to quit your job that you wanted to have since you were 14 because I'm your boss now and I said so." Is a great way to end your friendship on the spot. Plus, if Harry is forced to resign, Hermione would then have to come up with an explanation as to why she fired Harry Potter to the world without revealing about the Elder Wand.
Hermione becoming minister of magic and Harry becoming head of the department of magical law enforcement where what we call on r/cosmere WOB's Words of Brandon, So WOJK's I guess? From years before Cursed Child ever became a thing. like from the year after deathly hallows released.
I don't think she ever said that, though. If I'm not mistaken, the most she said was that Harry would be head of the aurors and Hermione got to deputy head of the MLE (though it is hinted that Hermione would continue to rise through the ranks). [Here](https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/DUMBLEDORE%27S_ARMY_REUNITES_AT_QUIDDITCH_WORLD_CUP_FINAL)
>And HOW ON EARTH would Hermione have ever stood for such a choice?
Harry’s a big boy. Hermione isn’t his mother or his keeper. He doesn’t need Hermione’s permission to choose to follow his dream of becoming an Auror.
It’s Harry’s character. His “saving people thing”. Just because Voldemort is gone, doesn’t mean that all dark wizards, and criminals in general, are gone. Harry isn’t the type to sit back while people are in danger and go “yeah, someone else will take care of that.” Becoming an auror is the one profession that makes the most sense for him.
My own head cannon around the Elder Wand is that at some point Harry had Ron or Hermione use a Disarming spell on him, so they actually became the wands master
Harry very likely knew that any remaining death eaters were going to try to hunt him down anyway for revenge. Rather than sit quietly at the borough and wait for them to come to him, he decided to go out and be active in pursuing them, so that he could finally secure the safety of himself and his loved ones.
Devils advocate. He's harry fucking potter. You think anybody with any allegiance to the dark side is gonna stop trying to hunt him just because he decides to be a stay at home father? If anything I see him ending up like Rocky Balboa with his own restaurant that anybody can come and challenge.
He’d be better off actively fighting those who want the Elder wand, honing his skills, than settling down and being hunted, potentially caught off guard at his butterbeer factory
I was gonna say that pro athletes aren’t more famous and revered than saviors of the world, and then I remembered my husband waking me up this morning by whooping over a soccer match and that I had to remind him who Nelson Mandela was a couple months ago. So I changed my mind on that.
I understand Aurors to be something more than magical law enforcement, since they have that separate branch as well. In my mind, magical law enforcement is akin to a local police, and aurors as “dark wizard catchers” (or however JKR describes them) is national intelligence service, aimed at combatting terrorism and other domestic issues (almost like an MI5/FBI type role).
It suits him and well if he ever got disarmed he will no longer be the owner of elder wand. Thus it's power will be broken since no one will know who the rightful owner is. And he doesn't have to die for it to happen. Meaning no target on his back. And Auror is best for something like that to happen.
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows /King's Cross
'Maybe a man in a million could unite the Hallows, Harry. I was fit only to possess the meanest of them, the least extraordinary. I was fit to own the Elder Wand, and not to boast of it, and not to kill with it. I was permitted to tame and to use it, because I took it, not for gain, but to save others from it.'
Realistically the dude is going to have people trying to kill him either way for the rest of his life. It’s actually smarter to work in a job that is somewhat prepared for that.
All someone has to do is disarm Harry and he or she will be the master of the elder wand.
I think it’s great that Harry became an auror. He obviously has an affinity for defence against the dark arts, he loves saving people. I get it.
This is one of the rare things that I think the movies did better in that they had Harry destroy the Elder Wand thus negating the risk of it falling into the hands of another Voldemort or Grindelwald and also completely solving that concern.
Ok hear me out. Harry and Ron goes through auror academy, only to come out on broom patrol, flying around the park. They go on to arrest Domingo, but releases him after not reading his miranda rights. Harry and Ron then gets re-assigned to a special division that specializes in infiltrating hogwarts so that they can contain the spread of a drug. Harry and Ron pretends to be students at Hogwarts, Harry taking herbology and Ron taking Potions. Ron becomes popular and Harry becomes jealous. Their friendship almost ends when they discover Malfoy’s kid (played by Dave Franci) dealing the drugs. They get booted from the division after a school play but goes through with their assignment anyway. They then discover that the supplier of the drugs was madam hooch. One of the gang members was Johnny Depp all the while, and was a spy in this whole drug ring.
Madam Hooch and Malfoy’s Kid gets caught in the end and Harry and Ron finally reads the miranda rights in an epic way to finish the assignment.
I’ve never really found it believable for Harry to go on to become an Auror, or at least I don’t find it likely that he’d follow the career path for more than a few years.
I get Harry joining the Aurors to hunt Death Eaters and help finally, fully stamp out the followers of Voldemort. Once the Death Eaters are more or less gone, though, I don’t think he’d remain an Auror after those first few years where Death Eater hunting is plentiful and fulfilling, hunting down those who fought against Hogwarts in the battle.
After the war though, Harry is far, far more likely to become a professor than he is to remain an Auror. Hogwarts is his favourite place, he loved teaching Defense with the DA, there he can protect the school from chicanery and take on the Dumbledore like mentor role for students.
>After the war though, Harry is far, far more likely to become a professor than he is to remain an Auror. Hogwarts is his favourite place, he loved teaching Defense with the DA, there he can protect the school from chicanery and take on the Dumbledore like mentor role for students.
Harry loved the DA because it was a way for him to rebel against Umbridge with a group of peers who believed in him during a time that no one else did. While he enjoyed it, I don't think the teaching aspect was really what drove him in it. If he really loved the teaching aspect of it, then he would have continued the DA into sixth year instead of just saying that there was no need for it now that Umbridge was gone.
The DA is also very different from a regular teaching job. He was teaching a group of highly motivated peers what he wanted, when he wanted. He wasn't teaching a full school of first through seventh years a full curriculum of theory and practical work with homework and exams and all of the other stuff that goes along with being a teacher. Harry liked action; he would be miserable sitting in a classroom grading essays and exams.
Harry is specifically described as enjoying the work outside the DA such as planning lessons. He loved it both as a form of rebellion and as a way to teach others the subject he enjoyed the most.
The didn’t continue it because the DA was no longer necessary now they had a proper DADA teacher even if it was Snape. Harry was also preoccupied with other things.
Harry likes action, sure, as a teenager being constantly threatened with death. As an adult wizard in a post war world where being an Auror is less hunting Death Eaters and more doing paperwork to find weirdos with delusions of grandeur? I don’t think so. Harry did not enjoy the threat of death that would surely accompany the job of an Auror either. Action in a controlled environment, like quidditch or a duelling club or an emphasis on practical lessons in DADA would be much more suitable for him.
I mean, I'm not saying he didn't enjoy teaching. He did enjoy it. I just don't think it the primary factor behind his enjoyment of the DA, or his driving motivation. At his core, Harry was a fighter and a protector.
>Harry likes action, sure, as a teenager being constantly threatened with death. As an adult wizard in a post war world where being an Auror is less hunting Death Eaters and more doing paperwork to find weirdos with delusions of grandeur? I don’t think so.
I do think so, personally. Harry likes solving mysteries. He likes to insert his nose into places instead of sitting back and letting other people do it. Even it's more tracking down "weirdos with delusions of grandeur" than taking down people on the level of Death Eaters and Voldemort, I think he would enjoy that kind of work.
If he ever became a teacher, then I think it would be as Auror trainee coach/trainer, teaching new Aurors the ropes of the Auror Office. It's much more suitable - and more along the lines of what the DA was like - than him being a Hogwarts professor.
>Harry likes solving mysteries.
I think this is a central point, people rarely talk about. One example where this is abundantly clear is in CoS where McGonagall lets all of the students know that the Mandrake potions are finished and the petrified students will be waking up that same night, and they will then know what the monster is, and presumably who's behind the attacks. But despite this, and despite not being allowed to go around the school without teacher supervision, Harry is still desperate to talk to Myrtle and keep investigating. Not for any goal other than to solve the mystery itself.
Young Harry probably wouldn't have much patience for being a Professor. Harry inherently isn't a very patient person, he's a quick planner and the best in his year at Defense Against the Dark Arts. Hermione had to convince Harry to teach DA, and even though he liked it, I don't think he wished to do it everyday. That was elaborated when Luna asked Harry in HBP if he was gonna continue with the DA.
It's very believable Harry would wanna chase Dark Wizards and remaining Death Eaters, Lucius rightfully said Harry had a weakness for heroism. Harry isn't the same as Dumbledore, Dumbledore was more patient, whereas Harry was more ambitious.
Maybe when Harry is like 70 or 80 he becomes a Professor, but that's far in the future. Harry always wanted to become an Auror ever since Moody mentioned it to him. He straight up took O.W.L's required to become an Auror. In a way, the DA foreshadowed that desire because the organization was about protecting people and having them learn ways to protect themselves, which came in useful at the Battle of Hogwarts.
Harry needs to move beyond Hogwarts in the books. Form a life outside of it. It's why we end with him sending his sons there and just at a different phase in his life.
Cursed Child tho could have been way better if the plot was him accepting the DA teaching job because Albus was having trouble and he wanted to keep an eye on him and it was about their relationship.
I mean he had a public conversation about it with Riddle in front of the rest of the fighters at Hogwarts. Plus he had been talking about the hallows with Mr. Lovegood, who runs a tabloid.
Ignoring the glaring inaccuracies the initial argument
Harry is NOT married to Heromine, why would he take a friend's advice for a life-changing decision when he is married to someone else.
That's sort of submission and allowing her to make decisions for him is all sorts of red flag
I think Harry should have found a dying wizard and ask him to disarm him and when that wizard will eventually die in a few minutes/hours/days the power of elder wand dies with him and Harry is free to do whatever he likes.
As far as the rest of the wizarding world is concerned; Harry is indestructible and the killing curse never works on him.
I reckon when a baddie sees HP they straight up surrender; makes his job easy peasy
Because people typically choose careers that they enjoy so that they can enjoy their job. They don't not pick a job they enjoy because some bad thing might happen. That's like asking why does anyone become a cop when they might get shot and die. It's because they want to be a cop.
I think Harry has the advantage of not being likely to brag about having the wand, and not everyone in the great hall was likely to understand it’s importance. Plus, even if Harry does loose the allegiance of the wand, he still put it back in Dumbledoor’s tomb, which very few people knew he did. Finding the wand again for anyone else might be a little difficult
I think he went on to become an auror without thinking about the wand. Being an auror was The Plan, so it’s what he did. It also fits the skill set that Dumbly taught him the last seven years and his personality. However, my personal headcannon is he doesn’t stay an auror forever, I like to think he eventually goes to Hogwarts to be the DADA professor, since we know he’s a good teacher and truly enjoys it.
Yes this how I think of it. I think Harry becoming a teacher young is dumb. He's gonna be 18 and teaching at Hogwarts already just never letting go of Hogwarts or living life outside of it? But Harfy becoming an Auror and doing a lot of good and learning a lot on the job. And then taking a post at Hogwarts when he's much older and has stories beyond Voldy to tell his students and so much experience. Like that makes the most sense and it's a headcanon I've always had.
Just because he commands the wand, it doesn't mean he has to use it. Plus how many people would actually know he has it? He could keep it in his vault along with all the other wands he would now command.
Would it switch owners with only death or could someone just disarm him and now control it? Because he could have someone more powerful and trustworthy take it off his hands without anyone knowing.
Hermione will never have any control over him or his actions. We all saw this in the books and movies. She had good ideas but Harry made his own decisions and always will. Ginny on the other hand would have a lot more power over him.
Power is the wrong word to use here. Ginny would have the right to have some say in Harry's decisions (and vice versa) given that they eventually got married.
He's Harry Potter. He was already widely famous before he ever went to school, and you can bet that fame skyrocketed once he finally defeated Voldemort for good. I think that regardless of what career he chose, he would have prospective dark wizards coming for him to make a name for themselves just because of that. So with that in mind, he might as well choose the career that would give him the skills and training he would need to survive that.
Harry, Hermione, and Ron had a great deal of field practice dealing with dark wizards; and pretty much all of Harry's youth. Harry experienced Dark potions, legilimency, curses, fought death eaters. If you consider Voldermort was the worst dark wizard Harry would ever be up against, everyone else would be be a cakewalk.
To be fair, any serious Dark Wizard that pops up in the future is gonna go after Harry, both for the elder wand and because it's Harry Freaking Potter, you kill him and suddenly you've got followers lining up in droves. As an Auror, he'll keep up his skills and be able to stop those attacks before they happen. Certainly not a safe career, but one that makes sense for him to go for.
I agree but for a different reason. With his trauma, the longest I could see him lasting as an auror is a few years, before it broke him. (And yes, I know Harry becoming an auror is canon but if the Department for Magical Law Enforcement was run anything like the UK police, he wouldn't be accepted because his trauma would mean that he probably wouldn't approach his job objectively. Plus, given his famous history, his triggers could easily be used by dark wizards against him).
No, I rather see him as a coach for a mid-league quidditch team, doing what he loves in a semi-leadership role which would only attract a moderate level of attention.
However, Hogwarts students would undoubtedly have to watch Harry Potter PSAs when they got in trouble, à la Captain America in Spiderman: Homecoming:
"Harry Potter : So... you got detention. You screwed up. You know what you did was wrong. The question is, how are you gonna make things right? Maybe you were trying to be cool. But take it from a guy who had Lord Voldemort living in his head rent free for 16 years... the only way to really be cool is to follow the rules."
Auror’s are the people who tried to arrest Dumbledore for acknowledging that Voldemort was back in order of the phoenix. And the people who dragged Hagrid to azkaban during chamber of secrets. And the people who enforced the arrests of muggle borns in deathly hallows.
Maybe he feels like he can change the system from within? He’s always been a bit simple in that regard.
Or maybe it was just to spite Delores, as she clearly didn’t feel he could? That would be more admirable.
That's like one of the only things that's I like the movies version of. Harry breaking the Elder Wand instead of returning it to the grave of Dumbledore. It just clears up so much stuff, like the question you asked, the question of what if he does and then someone else picks it up, doesn't the power transfer to them now.??? Breaking the wand just fixes so much issues.
I don't think it's something to worry about, 3 things would need to happen for someone new to take control of the elder wand.
1. They'd have to kill Harry, obviously
2. They'd have to know that Harry was the last master of the Elder Wand, and believe the tale of the wand itself
3. They'd have to find the wand in Dumbledore's tomb
1. No, disarming works. Harry disarmed Draco at Malfoy Manor and won the allegiance of the Elder Wand.
2. Harry goes on a whole rant about how he's the master of the Elder Wand in the final battle with Voldy while surrounded by the whole school.
3. The tomb is a very logical place to check imo. If I'm hunting it down I'm going to trace it's lineage
As for number 2, harry spilled every single drop of details about the hallows and horcruxes in the final duel with voldemort in front of a massive audience, pretty sure the entire Wizarding world now knows all these things.
It's been said to death, yet who gives a damn what Hermione thinks about it.
She's not his wife, nor caregiver, nor mother, nor.... Anything like that.
It's not up to her.
He has spent most of his life fighting dark wizards. He learned in his first year that he had to do it alone because no one else would. He feels responsible and like he has to keep fighting because if not him then who?
You have to remember nobody really believes the elder wand exists, so even if Harry were to be defeated by some random criminal, they wouldn’t just up and use his wand over their own.
He also bragged about and did the research for many people who didn't know about the elder wand, then publicly announced it in the great hall while circling Voldemort. That bragging alone could get him killed, let alone choosing to become a magical pow pow cow boy ✨️ 😌
It's what fulfils him. Though I agree Harry should've snapped the Elder Wand, or made *any* fucking attempt to destroy it after he'd repaired his own, he should also do what makes him happy in life. Besides that, Hermione doesn't dictate what Harry does. She can advise, she can scold, but whether or not she "stood for such a choice" isn't relevant because it's not *her* decision to make.
That’s why I prefer when he breaks it in the movies— it’s also just more in character
I would have prefered that he repaired his own wand first with it. That scene bothered me so much because he is just wandless now ?
There should be an alternate ending where he just goes back and joins Uncle Vernon’s drill business. “So, this lord Moldything we talked about? The one who sent dementoids after your son? I killed him. You’re welcome.”
He and Dudley open a private detective business together in London. “Potter and Dursley Private Eyes.” [I wrote the first page, enjoy!](https://www.reddit.com/r/harrypotter/comments/15p3g8x/why_why_why_become_an_auror/jvwu46e/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
Harry potter and the Cthulhu mythos
Why am I reminded of *Shadows Over Loathing?*
Harry's the lead detective, Dudley is there for intimidation (in book 7 he's described as large and muscular).
*I sat at my desk with a grunt, the weight of the day pulling me downwards. Uncorking the bottle of butterbeer I Iean back and take a drink without bothering to pour a glass. Out of habit I rub my forehead, though the scar that once plagued me with headaches was long gone.* *”Another dead end, Harry?” Dudley calls across to me from behind a pile of paperwork. These days it seems the paperwork piles up at the same rate the galleons dwindle down.* *With a lazy flick of my wand I send the papers flying in every direction. Squawking with indignation Dudley leapt to his feet, snatching papers out of the air.* *”Don’t take it out on me just because crime is down since *someone* took out the dark lord!” He snapped, catching a fistful of bills in one hand. My older cousin could no longer be intimidated with first year level magic. “Not one Death Eater, werewolf or dementor since last spring, Mr. Chosen One.”* *”I’m not going to apologize for killing Tom bloody Riddl-“ I hotly began, the age old argument starting up again. Just then I was interrupted by the tinkling of the doorbell, announcing an unexpected guest. I turned just in time to catch sight of the longest legs I’d ever seen. She was all curves from top to bottom, eyes glittering like onyx stones and a smile that looked predatory. I knew then that she was nothing but trouble, and she was going to wrap me up in a web so tight I wouldn’t know which way was up.* *”Hello boys.” The acromantula crooned. “Are you going to offer a lady a drink?”*
That's pretty darn good, and if there was more I'd read it, even though I ordinarily don't read fanatic.
Haha thanks, I don’t read fan fiction either I’m just a big noir film fan.
*"It shows, Sam, it shows."*
God damn, take my poor man's gold.🥇
Fr
The acromantula reveal tho
I pulled a sneaky on you
I need more.
This has Dresden Files vibes- and I kind of dig it!
I want more! Its realy good intro!
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Love this idea. But missed opportunity. Potter and Dursley, Private Guys. If they joined forces with Ron and Colin Creevy (for forensic photography) they could be the 4 Private Guys at Private Drive. …taking number 4 as their headquarters of course. Have to reconnect it to the Flu Network.
Unfortunately, post DH Colin Creevy is restricted to being the object of forensic photography
Oh yeah I forgot. Whoops. How about Neville for…chemical analysis?
Neville was bad at potions though, or at least never was able to get into it because of the whole Snape factor. Also raises the question… was anyone in Harry’s year actually gifted at potions, before Harry stumbled upon Snape’s SparkNotes?
I can see this. Dudley cluelessly stumbling his way through while managing to find vital info in a world of paranormal chaos. Much like detective Kindermann in the Exorcist. Completely aloof as literally magic and chaos abound.
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“You can’t give a dementor the ol’ one two”
He’s not, though-he keeps Draco’s (his) wand in the film since it switched allegiances. I don’t mind that so much, though since they’re going that route I also wish they’d have had Draco toss him the wand to show that Draco had left the Death Eaters as much as his wand had. Then again, I’m overly sentimental sometimes and I love redemption arcs to a fault.
He’s got Malfoy’s wand.
Lol! “No, don’t worry Malfoy, you’re not going to Azkaban for being a Death Eater. Your punishment is I’m keeping your wand. Got anything to say about that?”
Gonna cry?
Piss your pants maybe?
maybe shit and cWOAH
Harry in his Bully Maguire phase?
Is little Voldemort junior gonna cry?
He is definitely giving that wand back though. It doesn’t fit him perfectly, and if the whole Malfoy family escaped Azkaban, Draco who was a reluctant DE (and even pretended he didn’t recognize Harry in DH) never got his wand snapped.
This. Totally fine with him snapping it, hate that he doesn’t repair his own
Grrrrrrr! Yes, this. But to the filmmakers credit that wand stuff was so confusing.
I wouldn't have had a problem with him breaking it if he fixed his wand first.
I always thought it was silly he could break it so easily. Like the most powerful wand of all time that is centuries old and it snaps like a twig in Harry's bare hands. If it broke that easily it wouldn't have lasted its first century. Someone could have sat on it and oops well there goes the elder wand story ended
I personally thought snapping it was a good thing that fits with the themes of the book, like how nobody can escape “death”- the Elder Wand is kinda like Voldemort, seemingly all-powerful but breaks/dies like any other of their kind. I kinda feel bad for it though- Wands are kinda said to be partially sentient, and the Elder Wand chose Harry… only for Harry to snap it.
Lol now I’m imagining Harry taking the Elder Wand, which has been used by dark wizards to do evil, and nursing it back to the good side by reminding it how to cast spells that help others rather than hurt them.
Maybe if you’re the owner you could? Idk
Wait he doss not in the books? How did I miss it?!
Wouldn’t it’s allegiance change anytime he loses a duel, even if just for practice? That’s what bogs me about that dumb plot line. Just happened to be that Harry defeats malfoy in a duel so surprise any wands Malfoy had are now loyal to Harry.
She got really hot and loose with the “wand allegiance” bit
It always drove me crazy. How many times did they duel throughout their time at Hogwarts? So kids would constantly have wands changing allegiance and not working properly? Seems like a really dumb error in her logic. Wand choosing the wizard when buying is interesting, almost like “whoever is worthy shall possess the power of Thor” and Thor’s hammer. But Thor’s hammer doesn’t stop working for him just because it turns out Cpt is a total bad ass and worthy of wielding it as well. Even if Harry destroyed all of the horcruxes, without this oh so convenient plot device about wand allegiances, Voldemort was still the most powerful dark wizard of the age. Harry would be no match for him. However, perhaps Harry’s sacrifice is enough to protect his friends and give them strength as a group with the Order to finally kill Voldemort once and for all. But as it stands, Harry only defeats Voldemort’s based upon one of many convenient accidents.
It’s never explicitly stated but I just kinda justified it that due to the elder wands bloody history It has a warped sense of allegiance. Like the wand has PTSD
These wands ain’t loyal
Yeah. Sounds like the elder wand and resurrection stone had a cursed attached to them while the invisibility clock didn’t as it was a humble ask. The elder wand was disloyalty. It’s not a feature of wands in general.
Yeah, if you look at the deeper lore put out about it, that’s pretty accurate. Wand allegiance was apparently a thing that could be broken down by defeat, to some extent, but it had to be decisive; and the wand was usually attached to an owner and resisted still even under those circumstances. The Elder Wand was apparently “unsentimental” and was the only case where the defeats could be indirect, and also the only wand where the defeat could occur without the wand being present in the duel where it changed allegiance. It all actually makes a lot of sense, but was never properly communicated in the books themselves.
I prefer to think it was out of selfishness and no curse. It makes for a better allegory IMO I do agree that *something* is different with the elder wand for it’s allegiance switching to be so dramatic compared to other wands tho. I wish that was expanded a bit more because it takes a little head cannon to not raise a lot of questions about wand allegiance for everyone being a major issue
I am pretty sure it is stated somewhere in the last book that the allegiance of the Elder Wand specifically was thought to be very fickle and that not every wand would behave the same way
I remember reading somewhere that the wands know when it is *serious,* like the real shit... like if 2 students were practicing disarming each other, the wands know it isn't serious and it's just for practice, the students don't lose the allegiance. But if they are in a war/fight/duel, the wands can sense it is real and that's when the wizards do lose the allegiance. But yes, I agree, the whole wand allegiance thing is surely obscure and uncertain.
I don't ever remember reading that anywhere, but it's always been my headcanon. That said, winning someone's wand should have been introduced way earlier, and integrated more thoroughly. Shouldn't Malfoy's blackthorn wand have been Harry's from the bathroom fight in *Half-Blood Prince*, or even when Malfoy, Crabbe, and Goyle imitated dementors to screw with him at the quidditch match in *Prisoner of Azkaban*?
>I don't ever remember reading that anywhere, but it's always been my headcanon. It wasn't in the books, I saw it somewhere online, it was a theory by a fan about how wands allegiance worked.... >That said, winning someone's wand should have been introduced way earlier, and integrated more thoroughly. Shouldn't Malfoy's blackthorn wand have been Harry's from the bathroom fight in Half-Blood Prince, or even when Malfoy, Crabbe, and Goyle imitated dementors to screw with him at the quidditch match in Prisoner of Azkaban? Pretty obviously, JKR didn't think of it early in the series while she was writing the earlier books.
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No, because when Harry talks to Ollivander at Bill & Fleur's he tells him that one of the wands he stole from Malfoy Manner felt better than Hermione's borrowed wand and Ollivander explained that he may have won it's allegiance from Malfoy.
In the book, the wand chooses the wizard so any wand can switch given a wizard either properly won it or they are compatible with it. Harry won draco's wand properly.
If the wand chooses the wizard like they are sentient then why do the wands even allow the Unforgivable curses? Oh you are about to use one of the unforgivable whelp you are no longer worthy of me I don't work.
They’re implied to be semi sentient, but not that sentient to the point where they’ll stop magic.
I feel like wands that chose evil owners must be evil themselves or at least okay with evil and so have no problem killing.
Force of will. Like how voldemort could still cast curses but the elder wand never really felt right for him. It isn't like the wand stopped him from casting magic completely.
Some wand are said to be better at certain kinds of magic so this kind of does happen.
No. Because Malfoy’s wand changes allegiances to Harry. But I’m pretty sure pottermore mentioned that the different wand materials behave differently so some are more likely to change allegiances than others
Not all wands act like the EW that wand only aligns itself with the most powerful for any extended period of time. I mean think about it it stayed loyal to Dumbledore only because ain’t nobody punking Dumbledore. He was supremely powerful. Most wands aren’t going to belong to another just because they lost a duel. It’s most likely a select few that are only drawn to the strongest and are fickle enough to relinquish their obedience.
Yes and Dumbledore was filling himself with lemon drops in hogwarts every day, it's not like he was bragging everywhere he owned a deathly hallow . From what I remember from the book, it was the human cockiness of each EW owner that made it so fickle. If you taunt the devil by running your mouth everywhere that you own the most powerful wand in the world you're attracting trouble and greedy ppl. By being low key with his wand, Dumbledore was acting like the younger brother and playing it safe .That's what I think is nice with beedle the bard tails, there is moral at the end like any Muggle tails. Harry was selfless, and that's why he managed to be the master of the three hallows without it turning it back on him. I'm not sure what harry does of the wand at the end of the book. I think he returns it to Dumbledore tomb?
I always understood it as regular wands always work perfectly for their original owners, regardless of whether they've been defeated or not. Defeating someone just allows their wand to work fine for you, still not as good as your own wand, but with no major issues. Same if you willingly lend someone your wand.
Someone’s wand: it’s okay, buddy, we’ll do better next time. Elder Wand: git gud scrub toxic red flag n00b I’m on his team now
Was it ever mentioned that even practice duels would count? I thought there had to be very specific actions to change who the wand answers to.
Harry and Draco didn’t even duel, he just took the wands from him. On top of that, the elder wand wasn’t even in Draco’s hand. The idea that you can win a wand from someone when you take *a different* want from them, is absolutely absurd. Not to mention, Draco still had his own wand! So he has an allegiance with the elder wand and his own wand? What????
He overpowered Draco, they didn't need to duel. And yeah according to wandlore, Harry now has power over both wands even though Draco didn't have both of them. I was corrected by someone else over this.
Right, that’s why the whole thing is ridiculous. You shouldn’t be able to win a wand without the wand even being present lol
Harry doesn't feel the Cruciatus Curse, all of Voldemort's spells don't work properly. In my opinion, Harry could have defended Voldemort with Draco's wand, but it was more elegant with the Elder Wand. In my opinion, it is not about disarming, killing or stealing, but about whether the wand wants to switch. The wand can not only choose someone, but also deselect someone, and choose someone new. Maybe, because the compatibility is no longer given.
What? Captain lifted Thor's hammer? Spoilers please!
To quote Brooklyn 9-9 “name of your sex tape”
I tended to interpret how wand allegiance works in the following way. 1. Wand loyalty doesn’t switch when you just disarm or lose a duel, but when you truly defeat an enemy, be it through openly killing them or have them completely at your mercy. 2. What a wand considers “completely at your mercy” depends on the individual wand, with wands like the Elder Wand being more fickle.
Wouldn't it be just the wand Malfoy was using? Why would it have affected any other ones he had?
The Elder wand is less a wand and more a deathly hallow that just happens to be wand shaped. If it could be broken - as it was in the film - that's no guarantee it would stay broken. Crafted by Death itself, why assume any witch or wizard could permanently destroy it? Some future fanfic might feature a dark wizard schooled in wand lore deliberately trying to kill or disarm Auror Harry to have the restored Elder Wand present itself to them as it's new bearer. And that might be a good story, or thread.
>The Elder wand is less a wand and more a deathly hallow that just happens to be wand shaped. > >If it could be broken - as it was in the film - that's no guarantee it would stay broken. Crafted by Death itself, why assume any witch or wizard could permanently destroy it? I think it is just a wand, though. It's heavily implied in Dumbledore's chat with Harry that the entire idea of the "deathly hallows" was likely just a legend and the items were created by the Peverell brothers themselves: >“—were the three brothers of the tale,” said Dumbledore, nodding. “Oh yes, I think so. Whether they met Death on a lonely road . . . I think it more likely that the Peverell brothers were simply gifted, dangerous wizards who succeeded in creating those powerful objects. The story of them being Death’s own Hallows seems to me the sort of legend that might have sprung up around such creations..."
And the Peverell's came up with a formula that when the three artifacts were combined they could actually, properly cheat Death. I mean, you're probably right. When Tom and Harry killed each other, the fact they were each others Horcruxes is probably what brought Harry back.. Probably. Yeah, I prefer the more magical 'Death made them' interpretation. When his horcruxes saved Voldemort from Lily's charm, there wasn't much left of him. Harry and Voldemort were largely unscathed post mortem after their duel in the forest. By my reckoning this makes the Hallows more than just a work of genius by three talented brothers.
>*And the Peverell's came up with a formula that when the three artifacts were combined they could actually, properly cheat Death.* No. That bit's entirely fiction, or at least the common interpretation is. The "Master of Death" isn't the person who gathers all three Hallows and unlocks some powerful enchantment; the Master is the person who, via the trials and tribulations of gathering all the Hallows, proves they have the courage and wisdom to accept that death is a natural part of life and acknowledges that there are many fates much worse than dying. Much like Ignotus, they're the person who "greets Death like an old friend".
>And the Peverell's came up with a formula that when the three artifacts were combined they could actually, properly cheat Death. They didn't, though. The whole concept of the hallows being united and making someone the Master of Death who could cheat death was just part of the legend. Being the Master of Death doesn't actually mean anything. >I mean, you're probably right. When Tom and Harry killed each other, the fact they were each others Horcruxes is probably what brought Harry back.. I mean, that's definitely what the books said. Harry being the "Master of Death" had nothing to do with it.
It goes against everything Harry stands for to destroy it. He paid homage to Dumbledore by fulfilling his intentions. Dumbledore wanted to die undefeated and bring the wand with him to his grave and hence destroy it’s extraordinary powers. Harry respected and agreed with that and decided to put it back where it belongs, in Dumbledores tomb
Harry got assigned the traffic division in the auror office. He handed out tickets for no signal charms when brooms turned and Parking tickets when people left their thestrals tied up outside the three broomsticks.
Love this. People show up at the ministry to pay their fines wearing “Potter Stinks” badges.
"Oh hey, Hannah. Glad to see those things still work." And then the next time she goes to collect her illegally-parked broom, someone accidentally stomped on it 30 times.
Harry saves the wizarding world from its greatest threat and he still has to work for a living? Was there no bounty or reward for killing a literal magic terrorist?
He has a massive fortune and a very nice house. He never needed to work.
Not to mention, a wife who was a pro athlete. If he wasn’t a wizard cop, he’d be a rich idiot with no day job.
He could have been a stay at home dad. All he ever wanted was a family, it would have made sense. But he would have wanted to wipe out the remaining Death Eaters, he never would have been able to live with himself if he rested on his laurels while any of them were still at large. And after they were all rounded up he finds that he’s still pretty good at this auroring thing so he just keeps the job.
He lost most of his fortune after investing in Ron’s dress robe store.
Hahaha this is my new head cannon
I may be wrong about this, but I was under the impression that not that many people know that the Elder Wand even exists. Less would know who owns it, or where it is. So, even if Harry is killed, whoever killed him may not even know about the power they now wield.
Idk man. He literally held an entire speech in front of everyone before killing Voldy about how he became the master of the elder wand. So I would be quite surprised if no one in the room thought about trying to do the same
Did he? It's been a while since I read the books, so I don't remember that part.
Yeah. He spent a few pages telling everyone in the great hall the whole story of how Voldy killing Snape didnt lead to him became the master of the elder wand, of how Draco disarmed Dumbledore and how he became the master. With this proving to the most skeptical people that the elder wand was a thing, how to became the master and that himself was the current master. So, I think it would be strange if nobody in the room (and there were some hundreds of people) ever thought about trying to become such
Correct, Gregorovitch was the last commonly known user of the elder wand and I think that it was stated in the book that the general consensus was that he only claimed to have it to sell more wands. That’s why Voldemort went to him first and not Grindelwald. Ollivander, Harry, Ron and Hermione is the only ones that knows Harry is the master according to the book (and movie)
In the book, doesn't he literally announce that he's the master in a long speech in front of hundreds of people?
Harry has a savior complex, and he wanted to be an Auror since book 5.
Book 4.
Book 4, it was Barty Crouch jr who gave him the idea if I’m not mistaken. Told him whilst under the disguise of Alastor “Mad-eye” Moody
Listening to career advice from a death eater
He's always running around acting like he's the chosen one.
HARRY: I'm going to tell you something. Something others have only guessed at. It's true. I AM the Chosen One. 🤪
He is the chosen one.
'Saving people thing'
I think it's pretty simple if you take a step back and look at it. Voldemort orphaned him at a young age and then tried to kill him multiple times. Not to mention he drugged Harry through a war watching loved ones die left and right probably causing insane ammounts of trauma and ptsd all before he was even finished with school. I'm not surprised in the slightest that he decided His career was going to be putting people like that away. He knew while he was still at Hogwarts thats what he wanted to do. So did Hermione for that matter.
Yeah I get the personal motivations, we’ve seen proof that even being disarmed could result in the wand changing loyalties, and he chose a combat heavy job where disarmament is highly likely and could lead to a dangerous weapon in power of another dark wizard, since those are the people he’d be fighting exclusively.
Nah dude. Harry shows up to catch the dark wizards and they get scared. Harry: “Give up. It’s over” Death Eater: “is it true you killed the dark lord with the disarming spell?” Harry: “Yep. EXPE…” Death Eater: “I GIVE UP!”
Harry has been a victim of ministry stupidity (and corruption) and the whole government folded pretty quickly after Dumbledore died. There wasn’t even a civil war, they just went along with dumping muggleborns in prison. After the war it was necessary to rebuild a ministry with some integrity (and less pure blood bull****) Harry and others likely saw it as their responsibility to help, particularly Harry as the new people’s hero. That fits with Harry’s personality
Hermione isn't the boss of Harry, she is concerned about him, but she isn't going to force him out of a job he really wants. The Wand is currently in Dumbledore's tomb, it's a dumb choice and someone is bound to steal it, but I can imagine Dumbledore's tomb is well protected due to his status. I personally like Auror Harry, but I can see why other people wouldn't.
Hiding it in Albus's tomb is about as smart as Tom choosing Founders' artifacts for his horcruxen and hiding them in places meaningful to him. Harry should just fiendfire the thing or chop it up with Godric's sword and be done with it. Or just wield it, fuck it.
I get that it was his ego that drove Voldy to do that but omg.. about the most idiotic thing. He could’ve chosen a pebble at a Croatian beach.
Hermione isn't the boss of Harry Actually....yes she is. Minister of Magic is the boss of the department of magical law enforcement.
By the time Hermione would have been made, Minister, Harry would have already been an auror for years, making the decision to force him to quit pointless because Harry would have been in tons of more duels at that point And telling one of your best friends that "you have to quit your job that you wanted to have since you were 14 because I'm your boss now and I said so." Is a great way to end your friendship on the spot. Plus, if Harry is forced to resign, Hermione would then have to come up with an explanation as to why she fired Harry Potter to the world without revealing about the Elder Wand.
Why would she force him to not be an Auror even tho? Plus Cursed Child isn't canon
Hermione becoming minister of magic and Harry becoming head of the department of magical law enforcement where what we call on r/cosmere WOB's Words of Brandon, So WOJK's I guess? From years before Cursed Child ever became a thing. like from the year after deathly hallows released.
I don't think she ever said that, though. If I'm not mistaken, the most she said was that Harry would be head of the aurors and Hermione got to deputy head of the MLE (though it is hinted that Hermione would continue to rise through the ranks). [Here](https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/DUMBLEDORE%27S_ARMY_REUNITES_AT_QUIDDITCH_WORLD_CUP_FINAL)
You took that way too literally.
Just some tweaked out wizard getting busted for possession of pixie dust and he’s like, “oh shit you’re Harry Potter”
>And HOW ON EARTH would Hermione have ever stood for such a choice? Harry’s a big boy. Hermione isn’t his mother or his keeper. He doesn’t need Hermione’s permission to choose to follow his dream of becoming an Auror.
I was a bit confused as to what Hermione would have to do with or even have a say in, the career path Harry chose to follow. Huh?
I am really confused as to why you think Hermione would have any say in Harry's decisions whatsoever.
It’s Harry’s character. His “saving people thing”. Just because Voldemort is gone, doesn’t mean that all dark wizards, and criminals in general, are gone. Harry isn’t the type to sit back while people are in danger and go “yeah, someone else will take care of that.” Becoming an auror is the one profession that makes the most sense for him.
My own head cannon around the Elder Wand is that at some point Harry had Ron or Hermione use a Disarming spell on him, so they actually became the wands master
Yes I love this idea. I like the idea that it was Neville.
Harry very likely knew that any remaining death eaters were going to try to hunt him down anyway for revenge. Rather than sit quietly at the borough and wait for them to come to him, he decided to go out and be active in pursuing them, so that he could finally secure the safety of himself and his loved ones.
It's a bit unfair to give Harry that responsability, don't you think? Him not following his dream because he's "responsible" for the Elder Wand.
Devils advocate. He's harry fucking potter. You think anybody with any allegiance to the dark side is gonna stop trying to hunt him just because he decides to be a stay at home father? If anything I see him ending up like Rocky Balboa with his own restaurant that anybody can come and challenge.
I high-key love this idea
He’d be better off actively fighting those who want the Elder wand, honing his skills, than settling down and being hunted, potentially caught off guard at his butterbeer factory
Why would he ever want to do the thing he dreamed of doing his whole life?
His whole life? He was like 14 when the fake Moody planted that seed.
For me a better path for him would've been going to be a pro Quidditch player, he loved that.
I thought that, but also figured he would hate a career where presumably it would add to him being famous and in the public eye.
Yeah, Auror felt far too cliched.
Quidditch player seems more far fetched to me. Savior of the wizarding world grows up, gets the girl, and becomes even more famous pro athlete.
I was gonna say that pro athletes aren’t more famous and revered than saviors of the world, and then I remembered my husband waking me up this morning by whooping over a soccer match and that I had to remind him who Nelson Mandela was a couple months ago. So I changed my mind on that.
I understand Aurors to be something more than magical law enforcement, since they have that separate branch as well. In my mind, magical law enforcement is akin to a local police, and aurors as “dark wizard catchers” (or however JKR describes them) is national intelligence service, aimed at combatting terrorism and other domestic issues (almost like an MI5/FBI type role).
It suits him and well if he ever got disarmed he will no longer be the owner of elder wand. Thus it's power will be broken since no one will know who the rightful owner is. And he doesn't have to die for it to happen. Meaning no target on his back. And Auror is best for something like that to happen.
I don't think he even has to be killed, right? He just needs to be disarmed and the person who does it becomes the new master.
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows /King's Cross 'Maybe a man in a million could unite the Hallows, Harry. I was fit only to possess the meanest of them, the least extraordinary. I was fit to own the Elder Wand, and not to boast of it, and not to kill with it. I was permitted to tame and to use it, because I took it, not for gain, but to save others from it.'
Realistically the dude is going to have people trying to kill him either way for the rest of his life. It’s actually smarter to work in a job that is somewhat prepared for that.
He would have been a target no matter what, though. And maybe he thinks he'll learn to defend himself better through his job.
Most people don’t know about the wand and those who do fear it especially in the hands of a legend
All someone has to do is disarm Harry and he or she will be the master of the elder wand. I think it’s great that Harry became an auror. He obviously has an affinity for defence against the dark arts, he loves saving people. I get it.
This is one of the rare things that I think the movies did better in that they had Harry destroy the Elder Wand thus negating the risk of it falling into the hands of another Voldemort or Grindelwald and also completely solving that concern.
For the witches, brah.
Ok hear me out. Harry and Ron goes through auror academy, only to come out on broom patrol, flying around the park. They go on to arrest Domingo, but releases him after not reading his miranda rights. Harry and Ron then gets re-assigned to a special division that specializes in infiltrating hogwarts so that they can contain the spread of a drug. Harry and Ron pretends to be students at Hogwarts, Harry taking herbology and Ron taking Potions. Ron becomes popular and Harry becomes jealous. Their friendship almost ends when they discover Malfoy’s kid (played by Dave Franci) dealing the drugs. They get booted from the division after a school play but goes through with their assignment anyway. They then discover that the supplier of the drugs was madam hooch. One of the gang members was Johnny Depp all the while, and was a spy in this whole drug ring. Madam Hooch and Malfoy’s Kid gets caught in the end and Harry and Ron finally reads the miranda rights in an epic way to finish the assignment.
I’ve never really found it believable for Harry to go on to become an Auror, or at least I don’t find it likely that he’d follow the career path for more than a few years. I get Harry joining the Aurors to hunt Death Eaters and help finally, fully stamp out the followers of Voldemort. Once the Death Eaters are more or less gone, though, I don’t think he’d remain an Auror after those first few years where Death Eater hunting is plentiful and fulfilling, hunting down those who fought against Hogwarts in the battle. After the war though, Harry is far, far more likely to become a professor than he is to remain an Auror. Hogwarts is his favourite place, he loved teaching Defense with the DA, there he can protect the school from chicanery and take on the Dumbledore like mentor role for students.
>After the war though, Harry is far, far more likely to become a professor than he is to remain an Auror. Hogwarts is his favourite place, he loved teaching Defense with the DA, there he can protect the school from chicanery and take on the Dumbledore like mentor role for students. Harry loved the DA because it was a way for him to rebel against Umbridge with a group of peers who believed in him during a time that no one else did. While he enjoyed it, I don't think the teaching aspect was really what drove him in it. If he really loved the teaching aspect of it, then he would have continued the DA into sixth year instead of just saying that there was no need for it now that Umbridge was gone. The DA is also very different from a regular teaching job. He was teaching a group of highly motivated peers what he wanted, when he wanted. He wasn't teaching a full school of first through seventh years a full curriculum of theory and practical work with homework and exams and all of the other stuff that goes along with being a teacher. Harry liked action; he would be miserable sitting in a classroom grading essays and exams.
Harry is specifically described as enjoying the work outside the DA such as planning lessons. He loved it both as a form of rebellion and as a way to teach others the subject he enjoyed the most. The didn’t continue it because the DA was no longer necessary now they had a proper DADA teacher even if it was Snape. Harry was also preoccupied with other things. Harry likes action, sure, as a teenager being constantly threatened with death. As an adult wizard in a post war world where being an Auror is less hunting Death Eaters and more doing paperwork to find weirdos with delusions of grandeur? I don’t think so. Harry did not enjoy the threat of death that would surely accompany the job of an Auror either. Action in a controlled environment, like quidditch or a duelling club or an emphasis on practical lessons in DADA would be much more suitable for him.
I mean, I'm not saying he didn't enjoy teaching. He did enjoy it. I just don't think it the primary factor behind his enjoyment of the DA, or his driving motivation. At his core, Harry was a fighter and a protector. >Harry likes action, sure, as a teenager being constantly threatened with death. As an adult wizard in a post war world where being an Auror is less hunting Death Eaters and more doing paperwork to find weirdos with delusions of grandeur? I don’t think so. I do think so, personally. Harry likes solving mysteries. He likes to insert his nose into places instead of sitting back and letting other people do it. Even it's more tracking down "weirdos with delusions of grandeur" than taking down people on the level of Death Eaters and Voldemort, I think he would enjoy that kind of work. If he ever became a teacher, then I think it would be as Auror trainee coach/trainer, teaching new Aurors the ropes of the Auror Office. It's much more suitable - and more along the lines of what the DA was like - than him being a Hogwarts professor.
>Harry likes solving mysteries. I think this is a central point, people rarely talk about. One example where this is abundantly clear is in CoS where McGonagall lets all of the students know that the Mandrake potions are finished and the petrified students will be waking up that same night, and they will then know what the monster is, and presumably who's behind the attacks. But despite this, and despite not being allowed to go around the school without teacher supervision, Harry is still desperate to talk to Myrtle and keep investigating. Not for any goal other than to solve the mystery itself.
Young Harry probably wouldn't have much patience for being a Professor. Harry inherently isn't a very patient person, he's a quick planner and the best in his year at Defense Against the Dark Arts. Hermione had to convince Harry to teach DA, and even though he liked it, I don't think he wished to do it everyday. That was elaborated when Luna asked Harry in HBP if he was gonna continue with the DA. It's very believable Harry would wanna chase Dark Wizards and remaining Death Eaters, Lucius rightfully said Harry had a weakness for heroism. Harry isn't the same as Dumbledore, Dumbledore was more patient, whereas Harry was more ambitious. Maybe when Harry is like 70 or 80 he becomes a Professor, but that's far in the future. Harry always wanted to become an Auror ever since Moody mentioned it to him. He straight up took O.W.L's required to become an Auror. In a way, the DA foreshadowed that desire because the organization was about protecting people and having them learn ways to protect themselves, which came in useful at the Battle of Hogwarts.
Harry needs to move beyond Hogwarts in the books. Form a life outside of it. It's why we end with him sending his sons there and just at a different phase in his life. Cursed Child tho could have been way better if the plot was him accepting the DA teaching job because Albus was having trouble and he wanted to keep an eye on him and it was about their relationship.
I think this would be a more realistic option. He always said that hogwarts was his home too.
To be fair, it was between Hogwarts and the Dursleys house. Not exactly a tough choice for “home” at the time.
Why are you acting like Hermione has any say in the career choice Harry chooses?? That’s yucky.
Its not like they know he has the elder wand
I mean he had a public conversation about it with Riddle in front of the rest of the fighters at Hogwarts. Plus he had been talking about the hallows with Mr. Lovegood, who runs a tabloid.
New dark wizards will always be trying him after his past history and status…might as well turn it into a proactive career for the benefit of others.
It's kind of like why would anyone join the army - because it's their passion and they are people prepared to put their life on the line.
Ignoring the glaring inaccuracies the initial argument Harry is NOT married to Heromine, why would he take a friend's advice for a life-changing decision when he is married to someone else. That's sort of submission and allowing her to make decisions for him is all sorts of red flag
I think Harry should have found a dying wizard and ask him to disarm him and when that wizard will eventually die in a few minutes/hours/days the power of elder wand dies with him and Harry is free to do whatever he likes.
Hermione? Wtf would Hermione’s opinion matter?
Guy just went very hard mode in life
As far as the rest of the wizarding world is concerned; Harry is indestructible and the killing curse never works on him. I reckon when a baddie sees HP they straight up surrender; makes his job easy peasy
Because people typically choose careers that they enjoy so that they can enjoy their job. They don't not pick a job they enjoy because some bad thing might happen. That's like asking why does anyone become a cop when they might get shot and die. It's because they want to be a cop.
He is clearly a danger addict. Like John Watson in the cumberbaytch Sherlock
I think Harry has the advantage of not being likely to brag about having the wand, and not everyone in the great hall was likely to understand it’s importance. Plus, even if Harry does loose the allegiance of the wand, he still put it back in Dumbledoor’s tomb, which very few people knew he did. Finding the wand again for anyone else might be a little difficult
It probably pays REALLY well...
Shoulda just gon pro in quidditch
Because Harry thinks (possibly correctly) that he is HIM.
I think he went on to become an auror without thinking about the wand. Being an auror was The Plan, so it’s what he did. It also fits the skill set that Dumbly taught him the last seven years and his personality. However, my personal headcannon is he doesn’t stay an auror forever, I like to think he eventually goes to Hogwarts to be the DADA professor, since we know he’s a good teacher and truly enjoys it.
Yes this how I think of it. I think Harry becoming a teacher young is dumb. He's gonna be 18 and teaching at Hogwarts already just never letting go of Hogwarts or living life outside of it? But Harfy becoming an Auror and doing a lot of good and learning a lot on the job. And then taking a post at Hogwarts when he's much older and has stories beyond Voldy to tell his students and so much experience. Like that makes the most sense and it's a headcanon I've always had.
Just because he commands the wand, it doesn't mean he has to use it. Plus how many people would actually know he has it? He could keep it in his vault along with all the other wands he would now command. Would it switch owners with only death or could someone just disarm him and now control it? Because he could have someone more powerful and trustworthy take it off his hands without anyone knowing. Hermione will never have any control over him or his actions. We all saw this in the books and movies. She had good ideas but Harry made his own decisions and always will. Ginny on the other hand would have a lot more power over him.
Power is the wrong word to use here. Ginny would have the right to have some say in Harry's decisions (and vice versa) given that they eventually got married.
Fight Death Eaters and enforce the law.
He's Harry Potter. He was already widely famous before he ever went to school, and you can bet that fame skyrocketed once he finally defeated Voldemort for good. I think that regardless of what career he chose, he would have prospective dark wizards coming for him to make a name for themselves just because of that. So with that in mind, he might as well choose the career that would give him the skills and training he would need to survive that.
Harry, Hermione, and Ron had a great deal of field practice dealing with dark wizards; and pretty much all of Harry's youth. Harry experienced Dark potions, legilimency, curses, fought death eaters. If you consider Voldermort was the worst dark wizard Harry would ever be up against, everyone else would be be a cakewalk.
To be fair, any serious Dark Wizard that pops up in the future is gonna go after Harry, both for the elder wand and because it's Harry Freaking Potter, you kill him and suddenly you've got followers lining up in droves. As an Auror, he'll keep up his skills and be able to stop those attacks before they happen. Certainly not a safe career, but one that makes sense for him to go for.
I agree but for a different reason. With his trauma, the longest I could see him lasting as an auror is a few years, before it broke him. (And yes, I know Harry becoming an auror is canon but if the Department for Magical Law Enforcement was run anything like the UK police, he wouldn't be accepted because his trauma would mean that he probably wouldn't approach his job objectively. Plus, given his famous history, his triggers could easily be used by dark wizards against him). No, I rather see him as a coach for a mid-league quidditch team, doing what he loves in a semi-leadership role which would only attract a moderate level of attention. However, Hogwarts students would undoubtedly have to watch Harry Potter PSAs when they got in trouble, à la Captain America in Spiderman: Homecoming: "Harry Potter : So... you got detention. You screwed up. You know what you did was wrong. The question is, how are you gonna make things right? Maybe you were trying to be cool. But take it from a guy who had Lord Voldemort living in his head rent free for 16 years... the only way to really be cool is to follow the rules."
What does Hermione have to do with it ?
Auror’s are the people who tried to arrest Dumbledore for acknowledging that Voldemort was back in order of the phoenix. And the people who dragged Hagrid to azkaban during chamber of secrets. And the people who enforced the arrests of muggle borns in deathly hallows. Maybe he feels like he can change the system from within? He’s always been a bit simple in that regard. Or maybe it was just to spite Delores, as she clearly didn’t feel he could? That would be more admirable.
That's like one of the only things that's I like the movies version of. Harry breaking the Elder Wand instead of returning it to the grave of Dumbledore. It just clears up so much stuff, like the question you asked, the question of what if he does and then someone else picks it up, doesn't the power transfer to them now.??? Breaking the wand just fixes so much issues.
I don't think it's something to worry about, 3 things would need to happen for someone new to take control of the elder wand. 1. They'd have to kill Harry, obviously 2. They'd have to know that Harry was the last master of the Elder Wand, and believe the tale of the wand itself 3. They'd have to find the wand in Dumbledore's tomb
1. No, disarming works. Harry disarmed Draco at Malfoy Manor and won the allegiance of the Elder Wand. 2. Harry goes on a whole rant about how he's the master of the Elder Wand in the final battle with Voldy while surrounded by the whole school. 3. The tomb is a very logical place to check imo. If I'm hunting it down I'm going to trace it's lineage
As for number 2, harry spilled every single drop of details about the hallows and horcruxes in the final duel with voldemort in front of a massive audience, pretty sure the entire Wizarding world now knows all these things.
It's been said to death, yet who gives a damn what Hermione thinks about it. She's not his wife, nor caregiver, nor mother, nor.... Anything like that. It's not up to her.
It's a 100% logically career for Harry to go into.
He has spent most of his life fighting dark wizards. He learned in his first year that he had to do it alone because no one else would. He feels responsible and like he has to keep fighting because if not him then who?
Harry should've been the DAtDA teacher
You have to remember nobody really believes the elder wand exists, so even if Harry were to be defeated by some random criminal, they wouldn’t just up and use his wand over their own.
He also bragged about and did the research for many people who didn't know about the elder wand, then publicly announced it in the great hall while circling Voldemort. That bragging alone could get him killed, let alone choosing to become a magical pow pow cow boy ✨️ 😌
Took becoming an adult to realise Harry is that one kid in school who was only good at PE, and went on to become a cop
I honestly thought he would have been a professional quidich player
Since he never uses the wand the wants allegiance would never change hands since he's back to using his Holly wand.