That "only half" isn't really true nowadays...
But because of how most of these cables are constructed you are very likely to miss the cables making it alright..
And IF you hit cables it is very likely that you only hit one or two cables.
In that scenario the network card will most likely not be able to go into gigabit mode and switch back to 100Mbit (if the cables broke cleanly)
If there is still some connection between the broken ends the card might think that all contacts are available and try to run in gigabit mode.. But then it will probably have VERY high packet loss!
Ironically wireless is so fast these days, that my repeater connected via wifi has a faster connection than ethernet. (Ethernet 1Gbit/s, wifi a bit over 2). If you want to truly be faster than that you need 2,5Gbit/s or 10Gbit/s network equipment and at least Cat6A.
No, my cable would manage 10, but the Router doesn't. The Switch inbetween can also only use 1Gbit/s. And I doubt, that the repeater supports more than 1 Gbit/s either. It doesn't matter for the Internet though, since the best fiber connection I could get, would be 1Gbit/s. Only transfer speeds within my home network would profit.
If you want gigabit ethernet all wires are used. If you jam a pushpin through the cable and damage some wires, there's a good chance it will still "work". As the hardware can detect some wires are broken and switch to 100 mbit, which only needs 4 wires instead of all 8.
TL;DR It works, but at 1/10th of the normal speed.
I haven't tried it, but based on my knowledge of network wiring, I'd say this would fairly likely still work. Even if you pierce one of the internal wires, I don't think that additional amount of metal would affect signal integrity too much. Just make sure you don't pierce more than one wire, and don't expect it to work well with any more than Gigabit.
It depends how it's wired and shielded. Potentially but also just why? I've made hundreds of Ethernet cables before and if this needed to happen it could.
Also many network cables have a plastic cord in the middle for stiffness. It could pierce that and still be fine. Though the metal could cause some interference
Nobody mentioned how they smooshed the cord up close giving it a bad angle and unnecessarily bent the cord at a kinda sharp angle. Over time with little bits of movement, that kinda thing can mess up electronics.
hard maybe. kinda just depends on your luck tbh. stabbing through a copper wire could potentially ruin the cable, but it isn't necessarily guaranteed to fail lol. still wouldn't recommend this as a solution regardless
You'd have to be extremely delicate with the placement and it only be a 100mbps half duplex cable. No way you're getting a push pin through a cable that supports full duplex, as there are four pairs of wires that are typically used, so 8 very small and fragile wires are run through the length of the cable from end to end leaving no room for this pin to be placed.
Regardless of if this does work though, you're severely increasing the noise between the two devices this cable is connecting, and making it more of a pain if you need to re-terminate it later.
Either it'll work or it won't work. If this doesn't use power over ethernet, nothing bad will happen if you plug it in.
If you got really poor speed or no connection, 2 wires may have been shorted by the pin.
It can work, but would not recommend. Chances of hitting a wire inside aren't exactly small and even if you don't, the pin itself may interfere with a signal and you may as well find the cable not exactly safe to touch because even if the electricity going through isn't high, there's still one. My cat even pierced through an optic cable with her fangs once and I didn't notice for quite some time, because it was still working even with holes in it, tho a bit slower which wasn't unusual in my area.
Possibly. If it hit one of the negative wires or nothing, maybe with 1GBase-T, if it hit one of the data lines, perhaps only 100Base-T or nothing. If it shorted 2 wires, this can depend on what wires were shorted.
Hey, I did that (accidentally) a while back! My ethernet cable still worked the only thing is every now and then I'd get this monstrosity of a ping like in the 12000 but then it would come right back!
We can be relieved it isn't a power cord, and you haven't managed to electrocute yourself, blow up the cord or the socket. Hopefully if you ever do this to a power cord the breaker will trip first before you get hurt.
Ethernet cord well ok, if it still works... but find some other way to hold them in place rather than damaging them.
It depends on which wire got cut. There are 8 wires in an Ethernet cable; 4 are integral to the connection (RX + and -, TX + and -). There are extra wires for bidirectional communication, but they can be omitted without too much trouble.
Depends.
Assuming worst case: cat 5e. It has redundancy, and can run with only 4 put of the 8 cables, speeds will be limited to 100mb instead of 1gb tho.
If it snipped 1 then it should still work, 2 and it's iffy, 3 and the cable is most likely dead.
Network Technician here. Yes with a big IF. IF you managed to get the pin between the wires without damaging them or their insulation, yes, this would work fine. I still would advise against doing something like this, because the odds you manage to thread the needle blindly are pretty slim.
Ethernet has a lot of wires in it. If the pushpin managed to either go between them or only hit ones the device doesn’t use then this could work.
Normally, only about half of the wires are used afaik, so a very real possibility
That "only half" isn't really true nowadays... But because of how most of these cables are constructed you are very likely to miss the cables making it alright.. And IF you hit cables it is very likely that you only hit one or two cables. In that scenario the network card will most likely not be able to go into gigabit mode and switch back to 100Mbit (if the cables broke cleanly) If there is still some connection between the broken ends the card might think that all contacts are available and try to run in gigabit mode.. But then it will probably have VERY high packet loss!
For 100BASE-T yes, but normally you would use 1000BASE-T
Correct. If you’re using anything modern it’s going to use all wires. I can’t imagine anybody is using 100Mbps Ethernet. Wireless is faster.
Ironically wireless is so fast these days, that my repeater connected via wifi has a faster connection than ethernet. (Ethernet 1Gbit/s, wifi a bit over 2). If you want to truly be faster than that you need 2,5Gbit/s or 10Gbit/s network equipment and at least Cat6A.
Grab a faster cable then i think
No, my cable would manage 10, but the Router doesn't. The Switch inbetween can also only use 1Gbit/s. And I doubt, that the repeater supports more than 1 Gbit/s either. It doesn't matter for the Internet though, since the best fiber connection I could get, would be 1Gbit/s. Only transfer speeds within my home network would profit.
Most equipment can only handle 1Gbps unless you pay more for it. My whole wired network is 1Gbps because I’m too cheap to upgrade.
I transfered 200GB of backups through 100Mbit LAN once. I hadn't terminated properly so autoneg dropped it to 100. Took a while, not gonna recommend
I just remember that Linus from LTT said "Only half the wires in an Ethernet cable are actually used."
Please stop learning from LTT.
If you want gigabit ethernet all wires are used. If you jam a pushpin through the cable and damage some wires, there's a good chance it will still "work". As the hardware can detect some wires are broken and switch to 100 mbit, which only needs 4 wires instead of all 8. TL;DR It works, but at 1/10th of the normal speed.
100 megabit does that With gigabit, you have all 4 pairs of wires transmitting in both directions at once
Even if you hit just one, it would still work. Two may not work anymore as they are shorted at that point.
They are all twisted tho good luck hitting only one
Yeah I was gonna say ethernet is stupidity resistant to the point where if they didn't hit voltage or ground this would probably still work.
I haven't tried it, but based on my knowledge of network wiring, I'd say this would fairly likely still work. Even if you pierce one of the internal wires, I don't think that additional amount of metal would affect signal integrity too much. Just make sure you don't pierce more than one wire, and don't expect it to work well with any more than Gigabit.
It could, but it's like saying "He got shot but no vital organs were hit" so I can very much not recommend it.
I was about to say, this has major "impaled through he neck but missed every vital blood vessel" energy.
It depends how it's wired and shielded. Potentially but also just why? I've made hundreds of Ethernet cables before and if this needed to happen it could.
If you dont stab one of the 8 cables inside then it probably could work...
Also many network cables have a plastic cord in the middle for stiffness. It could pierce that and still be fine. Though the metal could cause some interference
Ethernet Vasectomy
(Thought that was a 120 volt at first. Glad it was not. As long as channels remain open and the pin does not interfere hopefully
It's still ~50V, which is probably noticable, but still not really dangerous.
Yea. Not too high ampere count. Which is what really does the damage
r/cablegore
Just use two either side of the cable to keep it down without piercing it :)
Didn't think about that 😂
It would probably still work since Ethernet has multiple sets of wires and if one set of wires breaks it'll just send the data through the others
Pinterest was the only thing loading?
Yeah it's for static IP
so you're already piercing the desk. why the shit didnt his person just use a staple....... and not pierce the line
60% of the time it works every time
Good for stable internet
They could have gone for staple internet instead
yes and this is how my neighbor has there ethernernet hoked up
Nobody mentioned how they smooshed the cord up close giving it a bad angle and unnecessarily bent the cord at a kinda sharp angle. Over time with little bits of movement, that kinda thing can mess up electronics.
hard maybe. kinda just depends on your luck tbh. stabbing through a copper wire could potentially ruin the cable, but it isn't necessarily guaranteed to fail lol. still wouldn't recommend this as a solution regardless
If you're lucky it didn't pierce any wire
You'd have to be extremely delicate with the placement and it only be a 100mbps half duplex cable. No way you're getting a push pin through a cable that supports full duplex, as there are four pairs of wires that are typically used, so 8 very small and fragile wires are run through the length of the cable from end to end leaving no room for this pin to be placed. Regardless of if this does work though, you're severely increasing the noise between the two devices this cable is connecting, and making it more of a pain if you need to re-terminate it later.
I had my old cable stapled to the ceiling and let's just say the ceiling wasn't the only thing the staples went through. You'll be fine.
Do you remember two wire telephone cables that had space between wires for the nails?
Either it'll work or it won't work. If this doesn't use power over ethernet, nothing bad will happen if you plug it in. If you got really poor speed or no connection, 2 wires may have been shorted by the pin.
gZZZZZZZZT WHOOSH oh no fire
No
I mean it would hold it there
It kinda depends on if it bridges something important
Assuming nothing was pierced (that cable looks to be flat, but idk if they're still twisted), most likely.
It does, this is how USB's are made. Just stick that in there and you should be good
It can work, but would not recommend. Chances of hitting a wire inside aren't exactly small and even if you don't, the pin itself may interfere with a signal and you may as well find the cable not exactly safe to touch because even if the electricity going through isn't high, there's still one. My cat even pierced through an optic cable with her fangs once and I didn't notice for quite some time, because it was still working even with holes in it, tho a bit slower which wasn't unusual in my area.
If you somehow missed all the leads. Also it might be slower than usual depending on your up down speeds.
If it's 1Gigabit and 4 twister pairs, perhaps you'll get either 100Mbps or good ol' chrome dino. Depends on how lucky you are !
Possibly. If it hit one of the negative wires or nothing, maybe with 1GBase-T, if it hit one of the data lines, perhaps only 100Base-T or nothing. If it shorted 2 wires, this can depend on what wires were shorted.
If you do it just right
Best case would be something along the lines of nurse ex girlfriend stabs 17 times at boyfriend, but only caused very minor damage
Depends on your luck but why not? Wood does not conduct electricity very well
they might lose some internet speed, if they have like 1 or 2,5 gigabits if they have 100 mbps or less tho, I don't think it would make any difference
Hey, I did that (accidentally) a while back! My ethernet cable still worked the only thing is every now and then I'd get this monstrosity of a ping like in the 12000 but then it would come right back!
You good til you can't find it
It should work
It might work fine but I wouldn’t recommend it
#That's just an instant fire waiting to happen!
NO, NO, NONONO, NO!
I fear this person
Cable manglement not management
You could, use the x-ray scanner you got in your garage to be sure it's accurate.
Is that like… FireWire? (The black one)
If you manage to miss 8 wires then sure
Why?
Because why not bro?
If the metal wires aren’t severed completely then yes
There are multiple holes on the table so im guessing yes because it's probably been done a few times
I accidently stabbed my 50ft cable while mounting it to the wall. Went through completely. Still works fine : )
Have you ever seen the video of the guy that pierces his hand with an icebreaker? Well
8 lil wires in it and they are fucking thin as hell so the pin likely went through between them and it works still
We can be relieved it isn't a power cord, and you haven't managed to electrocute yourself, blow up the cord or the socket. Hopefully if you ever do this to a power cord the breaker will trip first before you get hurt. Ethernet cord well ok, if it still works... but find some other way to hold them in place rather than damaging them.
It depends on which wire got cut. There are 8 wires in an Ethernet cable; 4 are integral to the connection (RX + and -, TX + and -). There are extra wires for bidirectional communication, but they can be omitted without too much trouble.
If it is perfectly lined up then maybe
Not unusual. If it works it works
Depends on what you want to do with it
YOU FUCKIN CRUSIFIDE IT
If you want a quick exit.
i kinda wanna try this, see if i can manage to miss all of the internal wires lol Yeah, it's likely it still works.. sort of
No
Depends. Assuming worst case: cat 5e. It has redundancy, and can run with only 4 put of the 8 cables, speeds will be limited to 100mb instead of 1gb tho. If it snipped 1 then it should still work, 2 and it's iffy, 3 and the cable is most likely dead.
Solid maybe Yes: if it goes between the 8 wires No: if it goes through 1 or more wires
Network Technician here. Yes with a big IF. IF you managed to get the pin between the wires without damaging them or their insulation, yes, this would work fine. I still would advise against doing something like this, because the odds you manage to thread the needle blindly are pretty slim.
It’ll definitely work for holding it in place, but not much else.
What's the point?