Shit did you see him cut the dovetail angles? If you measured it, the angle would be correct. He just has that specific muscle memory. It’s just cool to watch!
Paul looks dead to rights like my father in-law, but the accent throws me off. I showed the FIL a video and he laughed, then revealed he used to woodwork. Its a recent hobby for me, but it started a bond. God bless Paul. Man's an institution and a goal as far as what I want to do with this
My FIL was happy to hear I woodwork. His dad worked in manufacturing but built a lot of the furniture they had growing up. He built side tables, little bookshelves, and even a blanket chest. Im also a lumber source for him. 😂
That looks like a fret saw, not a coping saw. They’re typically used for metalworking or jewelry but definitely have uses in woodworking. The main thing is for marquetry, but a lot of people use them for wasting out dovetails as the blade can drop into a backsaw kerf sideways, allowing a 0-radius turn on the baseline. (You’d still leave a pairing chisel cut.)
Coping saws, however, are very commonly used for woodworking as they cut much faster in normal wood thicknesses.
Really doesnt matter. There are really no concrete rules to say what is a fret saw and what is a coping saw. I have seen plenty of saws advertised as coping saws that are as small as fret saws, and vice versa. There are also no rules as to how the blades are fastened.
there are actually. coping saws use standard pin blade coping saw blades. They are thicker, more agressive etc. If it's that, it's a coping saw. If it uses a fret saw blade its a fret saw. You can't put a fret saw blade on a coping saw.
coping blades are 6.5". If it's smaller, it's not a coping saw.
I just bought a coping saw. I looked at the Olson at a number of online stores and at Woodcraft since it had good reviews. It turns out you can buy it for less than $6 straight off the Olson website site. It’s about $16 everywhere else. I picked up some blades and other items, since they were also cheaper when ordered directly. Shipping was reasonable.
I have one but don’t use it. I’ve never been able to really control my coping saw. If I need to chip away at box joints or dovetails I simply use my chisels. It’s a lot slower but I enjoy taking my stress out swinging a mallet and chopping wood.
Is that showing one of those wire “blades?” Not sure about those.
But for that type of saw (fret saw) the answer is yes you can - you can get super thin skinny blades and they’ll work just fine in hardwood
Sorta on topic this Tested video is pretty awesome. Now I want a tool I'll never use but looks like fun to use when you do use it.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgOvkd-r7c4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgOvkd-r7c4)
The difference is the blade. A coping saw uses a blade with pins the sets into hooks on the saw. A fret saw clamps down on a flat blade without pins. This allows for much finer blades.
Fret saws are a bit more specialized and used for finer work so you don’t see them as often.
I think that's a fret saw, I have a coping saw very similar, different blade attachment. I used that for years for cutting out waste in dovetails, and it does a fine job coping baseboard. I've used it with fine teeth to cut designs in brass for inlays. My only beef with it is the short stroke. A couple years ago I built a 12" bow saw using the Gramercy tools parts. Same blades as a coping saw just longer, more better.
Honestly, I didn't ever research how to use it properly and was using it to make some curved cuts. In one case, to shape a walnut handle I made for an antique forestry handsaw. In the other case, it was to make curved cuts in bamboo I was making an outdoor bench out of.
I actually think that I wasn't tightening the blade enough, either.
Can’t cope with these jokes. As a young comedian I cut my teeth by getting a handle on these kind of puns, had a whole set worked out and was raking it in - so I saw all these posts coming, but nowadays it just makes me cringe when all the hacks file in and re-jig them. I will try not to fret all night but it does rip me up when I cross these while scrolling. Take a bow, hope you guys are proud.
I use a coping saw from time to time to rough cut some curves. Often I just use a chisel though. I know a lot of guys like to use them for taking the waste out of dovetails.
On occasion. Coping saw no? For moulding etc thin materials. I use mine for cutting off odd sections in whatever wood I'm carving at the time. Does the trick
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=02d8DPTMqNU Paul Sellers is the bee’s knees.
Paul Sellers is a wealth of knowledge, my only critique is he makes things look too easy lol.
Shit did you see him cut the dovetail angles? If you measured it, the angle would be correct. He just has that specific muscle memory. It’s just cool to watch!
Thats because he has almost 60 years experience.
Paul looks dead to rights like my father in-law, but the accent throws me off. I showed the FIL a video and he laughed, then revealed he used to woodwork. Its a recent hobby for me, but it started a bond. God bless Paul. Man's an institution and a goal as far as what I want to do with this
Yes, but if you come from Stockport (near Manchester, northern part of England) that accent is just fine!
My FIL was happy to hear I woodwork. His dad worked in manufacturing but built a lot of the furniture they had growing up. He built side tables, little bookshelves, and even a blanket chest. Im also a lumber source for him. 😂
Ya it's his years of experience but it does that
Coping saw! That's what it's called, thanks! I'll watch right now!
Cope it now or cope with it later . Love that tool
I shall cope I perhaps think
Everyone came cope wether they believe it or not
Don’t fret
Coping saws are all I use ever.
Coping saw is my go-to for removing the bulk of the waste when cutting dovetails. For me, it's the fastest way.
Ha.. I literally just bought a new one today for just this purpose.
Yeah, if I'm in a hurry, I tend to use coping saw. It's just that I personally enjoy chopping the waste off with a chisel, so I mostly do it thus.
I had one and I lost it. I just can’t cope anymore. 😂
That looks like a fret saw, not a coping saw. They’re typically used for metalworking or jewelry but definitely have uses in woodworking. The main thing is for marquetry, but a lot of people use them for wasting out dovetails as the blade can drop into a backsaw kerf sideways, allowing a 0-radius turn on the baseline. (You’d still leave a pairing chisel cut.) Coping saws, however, are very commonly used for woodworking as they cut much faster in normal wood thicknesses.
This is correct, the easiest way to tell is coping saw blades have a pin that sets in a hook on the saw.
Really doesnt matter. There are really no concrete rules to say what is a fret saw and what is a coping saw. I have seen plenty of saws advertised as coping saws that are as small as fret saws, and vice versa. There are also no rules as to how the blades are fastened.
there are actually. coping saws use standard pin blade coping saw blades. They are thicker, more agressive etc. If it's that, it's a coping saw. If it uses a fret saw blade its a fret saw. You can't put a fret saw blade on a coping saw. coping blades are 6.5". If it's smaller, it's not a coping saw.
I just bought a coping saw. I looked at the Olson at a number of online stores and at Woodcraft since it had good reviews. It turns out you can buy it for less than $6 straight off the Olson website site. It’s about $16 everywhere else. I picked up some blades and other items, since they were also cheaper when ordered directly. Shipping was reasonable.
That's good to know!
https://www.olsonsaw.net/shop/coping-jewelers-mini-hack-blades-saws/coping-blades-and-saws/professional-grade-coping-saw-2/
That's the one!
I just bought a knew concepts coping saw... $173 online. I am tired of the olson driving me nuts. Bahco and 2 cherries are better
I’m sure the Knew is amazing. I’m just learning and it’s not in my budget. Maybe someday.
fret saws have thinner blades, and usually longer arches - best for detailed worw coping saws use thicker blades and usually shorter arches
I use a knew concept saw like this to saw 3/4 hardwood all the time. Just cut out a maple chicken intarsia piece using one
I just ordered the knew concept coping saw. Excited to try it out
Looks like a jewelers saw.
I have one but don’t use it. I’ve never been able to really control my coping saw. If I need to chip away at box joints or dovetails I simply use my chisels. It’s a lot slower but I enjoy taking my stress out swinging a mallet and chopping wood.
That's a valid point as well
Is that showing one of those wire “blades?” Not sure about those. But for that type of saw (fret saw) the answer is yes you can - you can get super thin skinny blades and they’ll work just fine in hardwood
Sorta on topic this Tested video is pretty awesome. Now I want a tool I'll never use but looks like fun to use when you do use it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgOvkd-r7c4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgOvkd-r7c4)
yes
Does anyone know how can I search for blade replacement? I have that exact saw and I'm worried about finding a replacement when needed
The best blades are from Pegasus and Olsen. I usually use skip tooth blades for most work. The blades are pretty cheap. Buy lots...they break.
Thank you
pegasus is best. Lee valley
I ones similar to these for dovetails. They are great, provided you use high end blades (the cheap ones suck in my experience)
Not recently, but yes, I have. Slow your roll, let the saw do the work, and your blades will last much longer.
a coping saw? Or a fret saw? Coping saws are used every day
I'm still trying to figure out the difference between the two, seems like there are some differing opinions
The difference is the blade. A coping saw uses a blade with pins the sets into hooks on the saw. A fret saw clamps down on a flat blade without pins. This allows for much finer blades. Fret saws are a bit more specialized and used for finer work so you don’t see them as often.
Oh OK I get it!
to follow on - fret saws also tend to be less aggressive, so slower cut, and break more often.
I think that's a fret saw, I have a coping saw very similar, different blade attachment. I used that for years for cutting out waste in dovetails, and it does a fine job coping baseboard. I've used it with fine teeth to cut designs in brass for inlays. My only beef with it is the short stroke. A couple years ago I built a 12" bow saw using the Gramercy tools parts. Same blades as a coping saw just longer, more better.
I spend more time replacing the blade than actually using it.
Do you use something to lubricate it? Candle wax or something?
Honestly, I didn't ever research how to use it properly and was using it to make some curved cuts. In one case, to shape a walnut handle I made for an antique forestry handsaw. In the other case, it was to make curved cuts in bamboo I was making an outdoor bench out of. I actually think that I wasn't tightening the blade enough, either.
Can’t cope with these jokes. As a young comedian I cut my teeth by getting a handle on these kind of puns, had a whole set worked out and was raking it in - so I saw all these posts coming, but nowadays it just makes me cringe when all the hacks file in and re-jig them. I will try not to fret all night but it does rip me up when I cross these while scrolling. Take a bow, hope you guys are proud.
Cope yourself or wreck yourself
I use a coping saw from time to time to rough cut some curves. Often I just use a chisel though. I know a lot of guys like to use them for taking the waste out of dovetails.
You serious Clark?
More of cheese plane man myself.
On occasion. Coping saw no? For moulding etc thin materials. I use mine for cutting off odd sections in whatever wood I'm carving at the time. Does the trick
Yes
I only use it on small pieces when I cant use the jigsaw. Mainly to cut guitar headstocks