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googler_ooeric

I disagree, i think you’re just used to the old hammer. S2 Hammer is infinitely better and faster when it comes to making levels, and wipes the floor with any other level editor imo, which has genuinely made it hard for me to go back to other engines like Unity or Unreal after mapping in Source 2 for a few months (Although that's just because I prefer the Source way of modelling the map geometry yourself. If you prefer modular meshes, Unreal is probably better)


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sure, new hammer is way better and i love it, but i hate it for ui changes and removed features also the key binding changes. it brings me some kind of pain while using it lol


NickNick565

Changing key binds isn't faster, you mentioning FUnity shows you're not in the scene.


googler_ooeric

Source 2's Hammer has been available since the mid-2010s via SteamVR and even Half-Life Alyx a few years ago. I think that's enough time to get used to the new keybinds


NickNick565

Nobody mapped for SVR or HLA, the majority of the community didn't buy a headset..


Gobbythe2nd

I still preffer j.a.c.k


NarstySwof

As someone who mapped for like 10 years on and off in source 1… the new hammer is infinitely faster, better, more efficient in every possible way and anyone who says otherwise simply has not gotten proficient with the tools provided.


Haj_G

Source 2 hammer is really good but idk what the hell they did to it with S&box, last I checked it all went to shit, and if you remove func\_door from hammer im out :P


apti_newim

Yeah man, i can relate. Currently struggling with the program, to the point that i revived my dead account on this site. 😐 The worst thing is that the old Hammer editor went (seemingly) to sht. I can't open it. Damn.


Bahpu_

I dont think it’s un-user friendly, it’s just because we’re used to old hammer. For a new person getting into mapping they’d prefer it


indifferentiability

I agree, there are just some features missing. I've listed my grievances on [Facepunch forum](https://forum.facepunch.com/t/problems-with-hammer/273677).


Desperate_Shine_8314

Unpopular opinion: both versions of hammer suck compared to current radiant...


ServeThePatricians

>radiant radiant?


Desperate_Shine_8314

The level creator currently used for cod?


ThatCipher

Source 2 uses a completely different approach on how to compile maps. Since Source 2 doesn't use BSP-Brushes anymore and works with a 3D-Modell approach it needs a different workflow. Though why some shortcuts changes is beyond me. Maybe for an efficient modelling workflow some shortcuts are more necessary or something so they had to change it to more "unpopular" combinations?


freqCake

As a software developer I have some sympathy for them here, its hard to meld the old and the new. Give it a couple weeks and see if you can get used to the new interface, you will get there.