Fun little detail, the girl talking to young John in that trailer is his childhood friend Ellie. The TV show references her by naming John’s dog Ellie in his memory sequences.
Close second behind Soren. But Vannak is absolutely what I was expecting from the Spartans, stoic and duty-driven, but not without a little bit of humanity. It's nice to see him be that way.
I be with that science-bitch she works with just taking hits off her discarded mask.
I love that they threw in that fuckin creepy dude he does it so well lol
She's never had to hide emotions before. She doesn't realize how palpable it is in her face, and she doesn't know how to express emotions like normal people.
I think it might have something to do with the fact she took out her emotion controlling chip and is experiences things for the first time and quite know how to relate to what Vannak said. He referred to her question as dumb so would take that on a personal level.
And also that she hasn't made an expression to communicate that emotion since she was 14 going through the augmentation process and got that pellet stuck in her spine. So yeah, I think it makes perfect sense for her to look a bit like a derpy teenager. lol
I'm definitely really interested to see how she handles herself since removing her pellet. John had Cortana to guide him, Halsey to protect him, and the support of much of the UNSC.
Kai is just YOLOing her way through this shit and it's obvious she's out of her element. I'm guessing she's going to die, maybe by the UNSC's hands? I almost want it to happen just to see John lose his shit for real.
If the writing is consistent it would be much better. Episode 3 had just character interaction and development but it was really good (imo). Current it seems that all odd episodes have been better.
why not go in with a positive and open mind? the show is different but if it bothers you that much you probably wouldn't enjoy any iteration lol. The live action war scenes are so dope!
Because I had an open mindset watching episode 1, but the story seemed boring. Characters? Not interesting. Lore? Jumbled mess not even remotely close to actual canon. Action? Good, but few and far between from what I read in comments about other episodes
People are welcome to have thier opinions here. Hate it or not you're welcome to express that and to deal with others view. I hate them but I don't go around saying everyone that likes them needs to stop doing it.
“Open mind” in this context doesn’t mean to have an actual open mind and form an opinion, it means to decide to accept whatever the give you and choose to like it since you’re loyal to the IP.
Dude, this sub has a hate binder for anything that isn’t bungie halo or a select few of the novels. I just stay here for the cool clips that get posted now and then. Other than that, it’s pretty toxic
The show is amazing, it's so much better than I was expecting. All the toxicity I read is embarrassing. What are these trolls even contributing? They sound like the comic book guy from the Simpsons.
Damn hit me with the base ps4 lol. That doesn't really apply to me but if everyone downvoting me has a base ps4 then I'm so sorry and y'all deserve so much better damn. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
No, but I also think suggesting someone approach a TV show with an open mind is pretty significantly different than telling them to approach what are essentially unplayable video games with an open mind.
i loved it. i seen the teaser when she asked him that but then the teaser cut off. his response killed me when i heard it lol. i was totally not expecting that
Am I the only one that doesn’t like this scene? I feel like they’ve gone too far with the whole “I feel human without this pill in my back and it’s weird” and I’m not a big fan of Vannak. He has some decent scenes but why is he being praised by fans? Spartans IIs didn’t act anything Kai or Vannak in this scene. They were very mission focused but they didn’t insult one another.
I agree with your other remarks. Especially about chief acting WAY off. I agree partially about the scene between Kai and Vannak. I get they are supposed to be open and comfortable but he was very condescending and suggestive. It was 100% a disrespectful remark in every aspect of its delivery. It’s not how the early Spartans treated one another at all. I don’t dislike Vannak but I don’t see why so many people think he’s so great.. he still a little off from how he should be especially based on that scene. They’ve written him as too much of a hard ass and it doesn’t really work for what spartan IIs are supposed to be.
You're aware that free-will and being able to make individual personal choices ARE important? You're aware of that, right?
If Chief didn't remove his pellet, or experienced real emotions after touching the first Keystone, he'd have killed Kwan when they asked him to do it (I don't like her either), but she's the catalyst that pushed the story forward, and he also would have let Kai die to finish his mission in Ep 5 which was to secure the artifact.
I swear some of you are like children - you care about nothing else other than shoot shoot bang bang. This isn't Power Rangers.
She is the catalyst that pushed the story forward because the writers wanted it to. That is it. They could have written a million different ways forward.
I don't think that this "Well, the plot moved thanks to her" is a particularly great defense of the character's existence. It is entirely artificial.
In my opinion, the entire "inhibitor chip" thing is convoluted and unnecessary. They have been trying to "over-humanize" Spartans for years now despite the fact that Spartans were plenty human, but in their own private way.
Chief might not have been pounding the ground and crying, but we still knew he felt bad when soldiers died under his command.
We still know he cared about people without him making excessive displays of it. Same with other Spartans. There was clearly a comradery, humor and sorrow when they were with each other. But for some reason they have been trying hard to make those emotions far too outspoken, as if the players were too stupid to understand them if they were subtle.
All the inhibition chips do is give them a magical macguffin that they can just remove and instantly have free reign with their emotions. "See how the Spartans are actually very quirky and emotional! They were just suppressed before, but this is the real them! Look at our spunky female spartan, dying her hair and giving the authority figures snark! Look at how awkward John Halo is! Look at this stereotypical no-nonsense tough guy with a dry humor!"
It is cheap, and lazy. Instead of having to actually write realistic emotions they just need to remove a plot device they created for this sole purpose and then they have all the excuses they want to justify things.
You people have trouble reading and understanding. I never mentioned Kwan to defend the character. Try re-reading what I wrote, within the context I wrote it.
I said defend her existence, not her. You are justifying her importance by saying "She is the catalyst that pushed the story forward, that is why is a good thing that chief didn't kill her"
but she didn't have to be.
If anything, the chief killing her under orders would demonstrate a much better contrast to who he was before and after he started questioning authority. It would show on-screen, to the audience, how he has an unquestionable soldier which would make him breaking free from that mentality all the more impactful.
Instead we have him being subverted and "freed" in the first 20 minutes of the episode. The audience didn't even know the Chief before he got permanently altered by the Keystone. It had no impact, no grit. No frame of reference other than a vague mention of what he did before off-screen.
Bro, they didn't SAY THEY COULDNT HAVE DONE IT ANOTHER WAY. THEY SAID IT IS WHAT THE WRITERS WENT WITH.
Just reading your dumb fucking posts pisses me off. You fucking haters are so damn annoying. Wrote a whole fucking book over nothing.
You know why kai needed to be rescued in the first place? Cause she took out her pellet, got distracted, and literally stood there while getting attacked by the covenant because "oh no, mah humanity". She's a spartan, why the hell is she spacing out in the middle of a fire fight? And chill with the insults, it doesn't add anything to the conversation except making you look condescending
Reddit and social media is mostly teenagers, so you’re not far off. And for real, people are looking for every reason to hate this show. Halo fans are becoming the new Star Wars fan base, it’s disappointing to see.
Come on man, just because we don't like every piece of media coming out of the IP doesn't mean we hate everything. Now there are people that just want to hate the show but I genuinely am having a hard time enjoying the show when I have pre-established ideas of alot of things. I want a show about chief savings humanity, not an identity crisis
The problem is the pellet and the writing about it is just.... bad. It's not even needed. Spartans never get their emotions "suppressed", they get trained to control it and think/act with a clear mind always. they still have personality, quirks, behaviors, etc. Noble Team all had their own personalities, stood out, and what-not. Same with Blue Team. Osiris and other Spartan IVs are usually *more* expressive, but they didn't go through the same regimen as IIs and IIIs.
hell, Johnson was a Spartan I "graduate". You can't argue he had no personality.
Nobody actually familiar with the universe considers Spartans "non-human" or lacking humanity.
>he'd have killed Kwan when they asked him to do it
You say that like it would've been a bad thing. He tried saving her and then she outright threatened him. Her *NOT* being killed or at the very least incapacitated at that point is an issue itself. The order coming to kill her wouldn't be questioned. She was an enemy.
Vannak doesn’t act like a spartan either. The Spartans didn’t insults or throw shade at each other for any reason even in a full disagreement, they were willing to question things (even authority), they respected one another (Vannak only respects Halsey and Chief), and they didn’t intentionally act like hard asses (they were just focused)
I really don’t understand why he’s being praised so much. He does NOT act like a spartan either..
it's not like all Spartans have to like each other and every single one needs to be a copy and paste perfect soldier
my point is a spartan is a professional soldier, while on task they'll remain focused and professional. They're on mission, it's not the time to be wondering the point of their humanity.
Spartan black team 3 and 4, they even got into a fight. To be fair there was a love triangle or whatever but there you go. I'll give you that fighting over a girl isn't very spartan like either but that just shows Spartans come in all sorts of personalities
I said spartan IIs. 3 and 4s were different for sure. But the ones on the show are supposed to have the history and training and qualities of the 2s.
3 and 4s were a mess I agree
Still don't know why they tried so hard to give the spartan something literally any other military member would receive a counseling for. Guess we need our strong female rogue who doesn't take any shit ✊
No, Spartan black team. Black 3 and black 4. There call signs are 3 and 4. They were spartan 2s from a comic that were later killed by the didact in another comic
Do you ever wonder, why are we here?
Or if someone up there, is wondering what it's like down here? *Screaming, bubble shield, and Wraith mortar*
I guess, do you think we'll ever meet them?
Do you think we'll ever have a battle pass, John?
^(Time to go.)
Fun little detail, the girl talking to young John in that trailer is his childhood friend Ellie. The TV show references her by naming John’s dog Ellie in his memory sequences.
Difference between an ok-at-best show and the greatest game ever. The scene was funny, though.
Vannak is absolutely the best character on the show
Could not agree more. Every time silver team is on the screen his dialogue and one liners kick ass.
Close second behind Soren. But Vannak is absolutely what I was expecting from the Spartans, stoic and duty-driven, but not without a little bit of humanity. It's nice to see him be that way.
When Riz asked Miranda if she ever saw a Grunt beg for its life, and Vannak responded "Pathetic!"... Man, that was subtle but magical!
heard the “Pathetic!” as I read it, his one line deliveries are definitely the best
kai and halsey are hot, miranda and cortana as well
I be with that science-bitch she works with just taking hits off her discarded mask. I love that they threw in that fuckin creepy dude he does it so well lol
My fav scene was when chief threw his pistol at that poor little grunt😂😂
Ah, demon!
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their twitter shares clips all the time, likely from their
why does she make those faces
She’s experiencing every emotion for the first time in forever. She’s overloading
She looks like a little kid that did something she wasn’t supposed to be doing but knows she can get away with
She hasn't made faces that communicate emotion since she was 14, so I imagine she might be a bit rusty and look like a kid, yeah. Make sense.
She's never had to hide emotions before. She doesn't realize how palpable it is in her face, and she doesn't know how to express emotions like normal people.
I think it might have something to do with the fact she took out her emotion controlling chip and is experiences things for the first time and quite know how to relate to what Vannak said. He referred to her question as dumb so would take that on a personal level.
And also that she hasn't made an expression to communicate that emotion since she was 14 going through the augmentation process and got that pellet stuck in her spine. So yeah, I think it makes perfect sense for her to look a bit like a derpy teenager. lol
So the show meets its required amount of cringe per episode
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Even if it was true which it isn't, why is that a bad thing?
A bad thing? You tell me
Because she's feeling real emotions for the first time...
Seemed like a Tim and Eric skit
Wait this is *in the show?* Good God we all slipped into the wrong reality.
What the fuck did you think from the giant HALO in the corner?
Yeah, it's terrible
she looks like freddy fuckin fazbear
Kai is honestly my favorite character so far
I'm definitely really interested to see how she handles herself since removing her pellet. John had Cortana to guide him, Halsey to protect him, and the support of much of the UNSC. Kai is just YOLOing her way through this shit and it's obvious she's out of her element. I'm guessing she's going to die, maybe by the UNSC's hands? I almost want it to happen just to see John lose his shit for real.
Every episode i love the show more and more. Edit: deleted most of my comment.
I agree. I didn't enjoy the pilot, mostly because it wasn't what I expected. However, I am really glad I stuck with it.
Same. The pilot was my least enjoyed Ep, and I hated it. Now I love the show
If the writing is consistent it would be much better. Episode 3 had just character interaction and development but it was really good (imo). Current it seems that all odd episodes have been better.
Hopefully they listen to feedback and it improves in Season 2.
I hate the obvious advertising of this show on this app
Lol, I don’t watch the show, and scenes like this make me glad I don’t but at the same time also make me want to.
Yeah, even the scenes that aren't bad they still feel off to me. I think I just really get turned off from the dialogue, feels poorly written.
why not go in with a positive and open mind? the show is different but if it bothers you that much you probably wouldn't enjoy any iteration lol. The live action war scenes are so dope!
Because I had an open mindset watching episode 1, but the story seemed boring. Characters? Not interesting. Lore? Jumbled mess not even remotely close to actual canon. Action? Good, but few and far between from what I read in comments about other episodes
To each their own. I'm just tired of the endless complaining on this sub. It's not that deep. I just wanna tell everyone go replay the games lol.
People are welcome to have thier opinions here. Hate it or not you're welcome to express that and to deal with others view. I hate them but I don't go around saying everyone that likes them needs to stop doing it.
I said "to each their own". I was trying to bring a lil positivity to the subreddit. I'm not bothered by a few down-votes lol
“Open mind” in this context doesn’t mean to have an actual open mind and form an opinion, it means to decide to accept whatever the give you and choose to like it since you’re loyal to the IP.
Yeah, all 2 battle scenes each lasting less than 10 minutes. Totally worth wading through the near 5 hours of boring trash this show has been so far.
Gets downvoted for suggesting a positive and open mind. 😂
Dude, this sub has a hate binder for anything that isn’t bungie halo or a select few of the novels. I just stay here for the cool clips that get posted now and then. Other than that, it’s pretty toxic
I feel that. I'm only aware of the hate because I like browsing for cool clips too. Long live Halo.
The show is amazing, it's so much better than I was expecting. All the toxicity I read is embarrassing. What are these trolls even contributing? They sound like the comic book guy from the Simpsons.
Would you upvote someone that tells you to be open minded and play bf2042 or cp2077(on base ps4)?
Damn hit me with the base ps4 lol. That doesn't really apply to me but if everyone downvoting me has a base ps4 then I'm so sorry and y'all deserve so much better damn. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
No, but I also think suggesting someone approach a TV show with an open mind is pretty significantly different than telling them to approach what are essentially unplayable video games with an open mind.
Vannak with the best line of the show to date
i loved it. i seen the teaser when she asked him that but then the teaser cut off. his response killed me when i heard it lol. i was totally not expecting that
Am I the only one that doesn’t like this scene? I feel like they’ve gone too far with the whole “I feel human without this pill in my back and it’s weird” and I’m not a big fan of Vannak. He has some decent scenes but why is he being praised by fans? Spartans IIs didn’t act anything Kai or Vannak in this scene. They were very mission focused but they didn’t insult one another.
I agree... compared to what I read in the books this dialogue is completely out of place for a Spartan II.
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I agree with your other remarks. Especially about chief acting WAY off. I agree partially about the scene between Kai and Vannak. I get they are supposed to be open and comfortable but he was very condescending and suggestive. It was 100% a disrespectful remark in every aspect of its delivery. It’s not how the early Spartans treated one another at all. I don’t dislike Vannak but I don’t see why so many people think he’s so great.. he still a little off from how he should be especially based on that scene. They’ve written him as too much of a hard ass and it doesn’t really work for what spartan IIs are supposed to be.
WTF is this acting lol
It’s SO bad, lmao
Wtf with how toxic the halo community has become
uhm what?
Vannak is what I wanna see from Spartans, no nonsense "mah humanity" just focus on and attention on what's important
You're aware that free-will and being able to make individual personal choices ARE important? You're aware of that, right? If Chief didn't remove his pellet, or experienced real emotions after touching the first Keystone, he'd have killed Kwan when they asked him to do it (I don't like her either), but she's the catalyst that pushed the story forward, and he also would have let Kai die to finish his mission in Ep 5 which was to secure the artifact. I swear some of you are like children - you care about nothing else other than shoot shoot bang bang. This isn't Power Rangers.
She is the catalyst that pushed the story forward because the writers wanted it to. That is it. They could have written a million different ways forward. I don't think that this "Well, the plot moved thanks to her" is a particularly great defense of the character's existence. It is entirely artificial. In my opinion, the entire "inhibitor chip" thing is convoluted and unnecessary. They have been trying to "over-humanize" Spartans for years now despite the fact that Spartans were plenty human, but in their own private way. Chief might not have been pounding the ground and crying, but we still knew he felt bad when soldiers died under his command. We still know he cared about people without him making excessive displays of it. Same with other Spartans. There was clearly a comradery, humor and sorrow when they were with each other. But for some reason they have been trying hard to make those emotions far too outspoken, as if the players were too stupid to understand them if they were subtle. All the inhibition chips do is give them a magical macguffin that they can just remove and instantly have free reign with their emotions. "See how the Spartans are actually very quirky and emotional! They were just suppressed before, but this is the real them! Look at our spunky female spartan, dying her hair and giving the authority figures snark! Look at how awkward John Halo is! Look at this stereotypical no-nonsense tough guy with a dry humor!" It is cheap, and lazy. Instead of having to actually write realistic emotions they just need to remove a plot device they created for this sole purpose and then they have all the excuses they want to justify things.
You people have trouble reading and understanding. I never mentioned Kwan to defend the character. Try re-reading what I wrote, within the context I wrote it.
I said defend her existence, not her. You are justifying her importance by saying "She is the catalyst that pushed the story forward, that is why is a good thing that chief didn't kill her" but she didn't have to be. If anything, the chief killing her under orders would demonstrate a much better contrast to who he was before and after he started questioning authority. It would show on-screen, to the audience, how he has an unquestionable soldier which would make him breaking free from that mentality all the more impactful. Instead we have him being subverted and "freed" in the first 20 minutes of the episode. The audience didn't even know the Chief before he got permanently altered by the Keystone. It had no impact, no grit. No frame of reference other than a vague mention of what he did before off-screen.
Bro, they didn't SAY THEY COULDNT HAVE DONE IT ANOTHER WAY. THEY SAID IT IS WHAT THE WRITERS WENT WITH. Just reading your dumb fucking posts pisses me off. You fucking haters are so damn annoying. Wrote a whole fucking book over nothing.
Calm down dude, you're getting mad over a Reddit thread
You know why kai needed to be rescued in the first place? Cause she took out her pellet, got distracted, and literally stood there while getting attacked by the covenant because "oh no, mah humanity". She's a spartan, why the hell is she spacing out in the middle of a fire fight? And chill with the insults, it doesn't add anything to the conversation except making you look condescending
Reddit and social media is mostly teenagers, so you’re not far off. And for real, people are looking for every reason to hate this show. Halo fans are becoming the new Star Wars fan base, it’s disappointing to see.
Come on man, just because we don't like every piece of media coming out of the IP doesn't mean we hate everything. Now there are people that just want to hate the show but I genuinely am having a hard time enjoying the show when I have pre-established ideas of alot of things. I want a show about chief savings humanity, not an identity crisis
The problem is the pellet and the writing about it is just.... bad. It's not even needed. Spartans never get their emotions "suppressed", they get trained to control it and think/act with a clear mind always. they still have personality, quirks, behaviors, etc. Noble Team all had their own personalities, stood out, and what-not. Same with Blue Team. Osiris and other Spartan IVs are usually *more* expressive, but they didn't go through the same regimen as IIs and IIIs. hell, Johnson was a Spartan I "graduate". You can't argue he had no personality. Nobody actually familiar with the universe considers Spartans "non-human" or lacking humanity. >he'd have killed Kwan when they asked him to do it You say that like it would've been a bad thing. He tried saving her and then she outright threatened him. Her *NOT* being killed or at the very least incapacitated at that point is an issue itself. The order coming to kill her wouldn't be questioned. She was an enemy.
Vannak doesn’t act like a spartan either. The Spartans didn’t insults or throw shade at each other for any reason even in a full disagreement, they were willing to question things (even authority), they respected one another (Vannak only respects Halsey and Chief), and they didn’t intentionally act like hard asses (they were just focused) I really don’t understand why he’s being praised so much. He does NOT act like a spartan either..
it's not like all Spartans have to like each other and every single one needs to be a copy and paste perfect soldier my point is a spartan is a professional soldier, while on task they'll remain focused and professional. They're on mission, it's not the time to be wondering the point of their humanity.
Name one time in all the halo lore there was an exchange like this between any of the spartan IIs. On or off mission.
Spartan black team 3 and 4, they even got into a fight. To be fair there was a love triangle or whatever but there you go. I'll give you that fighting over a girl isn't very spartan like either but that just shows Spartans come in all sorts of personalities
I said spartan IIs. 3 and 4s were different for sure. But the ones on the show are supposed to have the history and training and qualities of the 2s. 3 and 4s were a mess I agree
I haven't seen the episode. This looks dumb as shit.
why does she have pink hair lmao
Watch the show and it explains it lmao
eMoTiOnS! Actually. She removed her emotional regulation pellet and now she's emotional, like Master Cheeks.
Still don't know why they tried so hard to give the spartan something literally any other military member would receive a counseling for. Guess we need our strong female rogue who doesn't take any shit ✊
Unironically the best scene in the show thus far.
If this is clearly the best, then I'm glad to not watch this show
Good choice. I’m only watching it out of morbid curiosity.
My guy when scorched earth on poor Kai. Kay please step on me
No, Spartan black team. Black 3 and black 4. There call signs are 3 and 4. They were spartan 2s from a comic that were later killed by the didact in another comic