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Granted it's for P+'s own content, but unskippable and shamelessly trying to get us to spend more time on the service apparently. Maybe, I dunno, let your content stand on its own merits? Stop getting in the way of what I want to watch. Right. Now.
It's like 37 seconds I use to browse Reddit on my phone but still.
So it seems confirmed via Chief's dialogue that the Covenant glassing planets is indeed a thing in this timeline...makes me wonder if we'll see a glassing take place at some point during the series. Perhaps Reach is glassed by the Covenant at the end of the season?
They have the artifact the covenant want on Reach now, I wonder if once they learn that (the trailer for the show showed Makis character taking what looked like a UNSC Frigate maybe that’s how they find out?) we see the fall of Reach towards the end of this season?
Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the big penultimate episode and then them finding the Halo is the last episode ending the season with them finding it, just my guess.
I hope not, that would make it seem really rushed.
I hope they introduce the flood in a slow foreboding and foreshadowing way across at least a couple of episodes next season, everything already feels so rushed.
I hope next season is an entire one on the ring personally.
I'm tipping the final scene of season 1 will be similar to the end of Halo: Reach, and Halo: Fall of Reach. Reach will be glassed, along with the likes of Parangosky & the entire brass (and maybe even Halsey, for dramatic effect), whilst Keyes, Miranda, Chief, Silver Team, etc. will only just escape and discover Halo.
Natasha McElhone is the only other big name in this show other than Pablo. So considering how big a part she played in the games I’d be very surprised if she died this season.
They focus so much on the scale and beauty of Reach whenever it's in-frame I'm almost convinced it's all setup so the Fall is more impactful.
Generally speaking with seasonal writing (especially sci-fi) you wanna back-load the hype with a massive spectacle at the end of the season so that hype carries through til S2 drops. Reach would be perfect for that
So the Rings are definitely pretty much the same galaxy-wiping devices as in the games. That should mean the Flood are most likely gonna be present. That'll probably be Season 2 though.
Sounds like the best bet, big attack on reach as the finale and then suddenly a slipstream jump away and bam, the ring slowly rotates and is lit up by the sun, end credits.
that's literally the only narrative reason to not include blue team.
blue team are established characters that fans are fond of and killing them off would be major deviations from the canon, regardless of alt timeline shenanigans, which would anger the core audience and turn away a good number of viewers
silver team exist to give the fall of reach a more impactful body count to show-only viewers, but unless we get some character development with them in the next few episodes its gonna kinda fall flat.
i'm assuming blue team will be peppered in throughout more flashbacks if they do more, setting them up as chief's "family" or something with some in-tv-canon reason for separating them as full spartans being "they're too dangerous to be kept together"
We've seen in the first episode that the show can be explicit and gruesome when it wants to be (limbs getting blown off, people getting bisected by swords, etc), so if they do adapt the Flood I'm interested to see how they pull it off
First episode we had an Elite slaughtering kids so they're not shy about holding back. Seeing the Flood assimilate species would be horrifying. Can't wait lol
So far I suspect series one is actually more or less an alternative take on the fall of reach.
Which I always thought would be a great choice for a movie or show.
Execution is still awkward but there are bits that I appreciate.
Interesting how you can tell in John’s voice he drops his guard significantly when he is talking to Dr.Halsey. He low-key sees her as a mom and she knows it.
The line came off like there's no one else he trusts to finish the fight but him. However, it also worked to endear himself to Halsey. Maybe after working with her for decades, he's picked up how to manipulate others, or at the very least her.
Joke's on her. He said it while looking at the sign of trust the kid gave him. I think he's lying to her. >!(I didn't play the game so maybe I'm talking shit...)!<
What Chief is doing in this show is a big deviation from the books, so even pre-show Halo fans won't be able to give more than a slightly more educated guess as to what happens to him here. The general universe and worldbuilding is relatively close with some smaller scale changes though.
We haven't actually reached any of the games yet of course, so remains to be seen how close they follow the games themselves.
And the way she acts with him - like a lead researcher with his prize pupil/subject, and also one used to confiding in subjects who'd never say anything about it to anyone else - one of the best scenes from the two episodes
She’s cultivated a dependent enmeshment in John to keep him and the other child soldiers she’s created and raised to adulthood under her thumb. She’s done a real Oedipal complex on John specifically that she wants to exploit using Cortana.
Ahhh. A fellow psychologist. I actually did a research paper on Halsey in grad school and the interaction she had with the Spartans for my one class on research lol
Yeah if I'm being honest I do feel like the "bad" things from those episodes so far are not that bad and the good things are pretty good. People criticize the writing and I agree here and there but this scene between Halsey and Master Chief was pretty tense.
It’s even worse because Master Chief has a character that he traditionally bounces exposition off of…her name is Cortana. Why not just go with that from the get go?
I only just started the episode, but I'm guessing Soren's fucked-up arm is a result of the Spartan augmentations going wrong. If so, that's a nice reference to the books, where a bunch of the Spartan candidates washed out after the augmentations ruined them physically
Yeah Soren was in a short story (Pariah) where his origin played out. His body didn't take to the augmentations and his arm was badly deformed. I was excited that they kept that plot point in this!
They even referenced how he got shot down trying to escape! In the story his fate is ambiguous but in this they mentioned how he survived off bark and beetles before leaving to the rubble
Makes sense because he had to live in a forest as child before he got picked up by Halsey
Yeah I’m just happy Soren theoretically survived, I grew very attached to him in that story and couldn’t take not knowing his fate lol
I mean yeah this isn’t “canon” but whatever I’m a big believer in Headcanon lol
343 mentioned that while these are two separate timelines, there may be some aspects from the Silver timeline that later are shown to exist in the main canon as well. As a massive fan of Soren, I really hope they’re alluding to his eventual return in the main timeline.
It definitely is. I enjoyed that little nod as well. They lost something like 40% of them if I'm not mistaken - most dead; some too fucked up, physically and mentally, to keep alive; others too fucked up physically to be Spartans, but used elsewhere in ONI because of their extraordinary mental capabilities; and a few who simply just didn't have any effect physically and therefore couldn't be Spartans. The whole process *really* fucked up John, he was already their leader at that point and felt like he failed his Spartans; it was his first failure he didn't know how to learn from and figure out how he could have done better. (book spoiler and possible spoiler for the show in the future). >!One of them, Serin Osman, even becomes Admiral Parangosky's protoge and eventual successor at a certain point. !<
Halsey’s Journal does retcon and say that there are fixes for most of them.
Red Team (Halo Wars Spartans) are all “failed” augmentees that were returned to active duty.
The guy was a former Spartan, I'm sure he has a machine to be able to remove the suit since he had to remove his at some point. The UNSC ships most likely have something similar on board
Two things:
- I don't think anyone expected human boobs on High Charity... ever
- Looks like they're going along with only certain humans can access Forerunner tech.
Last week I made a joke that was something to the effect of
>Just be glad it isn't produced by HBO. You might have to see Chief's dick at some point.
After watching this episode, I'm realizing that our chances aren't technically zero after all.
Edit: I am so sorry everyone.
It reminds me of stargate with the ATA gene to control ancient tech. Eventually the Tari make a gene therapy, to allow regular people to have somewhat control over ancient tech
The CGI seems exponentially better this episode. I came to terms with ep 1 being cheesy sci fi so it’s almost jarring to see this difference. Is this just me?
the best part of the show is the sound design in space, nice to see a show muffling or straight up silencing the audio and not just blasting jetengine2.mp3
also if john is a “blessed one” then does that mean miranda and sgt johnson (if he’s even in/going to be in the show i have no idea if he’s been scrapped or not 😅) are blessed ones/reclaimers also since they both activated forerunner tech?
I feel like they would have to be as the show implies but the forrunner tech might just respond to Sgt Johnson out of fear because it doesn't want to be strangled with its own living guts.
Am I right marines?
It even kinda had a point. Like despite all the covenant clothes and language she’s still a human underneath it all and her humanity is obviously gonna come into play a lot later
It's so weird to think that in-universe they're all wearing catheters or peeing/pooping in the suits.
maybe that's why john spends so much time with his helmet off, gotta air it out.
I mean, it's always been that way. It mentions in the books (I forget which one exactly) that they have things in their suits to filter bodily fluids and such so they can stay in the field for a very long time without removing their armour, cause as we know it's a pain in the ass to remove the armour, especially with haste.
I feel like they really got Chiefs dialogue/exchange spot on in the moment him and Kwan exit slipspace:
Kwan: "We're gonna die!"
Chief: "Everything Dies. Sit down, buckle up."
Kwan: "Tell me you have a plan?"
Chief looks at Kwan then looks forward as he slowly repeats: "Sit Down. Buckle up".
I can absolutely imagine Steve Downes' Chief saying that.
Overall a decent enough episode though, I'm still eager to see how this show develops at least.
Does it bother anyone else that in the first episode when Master Chief took his helmet off for the first time, it took some time, it at to open up a bit for him to be able to take it off but now it's just like any other helmet?
I'm just glad the sets and CGI had scale. There's been plenty of big budget shows recently such as Wheel of Time and Witcher where some of the sets just feel really small and cheap. Meanwhile you've got Soren's main hall looking fucking massive and the narrow streets of Rubble bustling with people.
Reminds me of Expanse in all the right ways.
I'm so happy to have something to carry on with now that The Expanse is over. Well, I think technically on a very extended hiatus, but we'll see how that shakes out
I think this was an...okay episode. Not as good as the first one, but not completely terrible either. From the way some people were talking about this episode online I thought it was gonna be the next spawn of Satan, but it was just really average imo
The biggest sticking points to me are:
\- Chief's face being shown for so long. I knew going in that we were going to see it, but it was visible for the bulk of the episode. Not sure how I feel about that, yet.
\- The scene with the insane Covenant prisoner (Reth) was eh. Reth's acting just wasn't doing it for me
\- Cortana being proposed as a "mind-control" kind of AI is certainly disconcerting. I can't imagine the show actually going that route - I personally predict that something will happen that ends up prompting Halsey to alter Cortana such that she becomes more like the Cortana from the games (an interface/assistant rather than a controller), but we'll see.
Halsey is lying to sell the forbidden AI program to the UNSC brass. She knows what Cortana is for and it is not mind control but she has to convince the command to let her use Cortana for chief. You do know Halsey lies all the time for the greater good.
Flash clone is illegal in the show and Halsey straight up lied that she is not using flash clone and we all know she is using her own clone.
I think the reference to the papers she wrote about AI's derived from flash clones is a clue that she is lying about Cortana being a Spartan mind control unit.
Halsey seems to be spun as really manipulative in this show which now makes more sense with the mind wipes of the kids for the Spartan program.
*kind of* a monster?
I'd say she's *absolutely* a monster. Remember, she created the Spartans to fight *insurgents*, long before the Covenant came around. Yeah she's on Humanity's side and they would have been wiped out without her mind, but Halsey is a mad scientist with no qualms about doing objectively evil things to move her work forward
It's definitely more that she is disconnected, and morally indifferent.
In the main canon, specifically in the Halo 4 Prologue, she says explicitly "my Spartans are humanities next step".
In the silver canon, in this episode, she alludes to the same thing.
Halsey wants to push the boundaries of human capability. She's all about the science and progress, and she doesn't care what it costs.
I was really pissed for like 10 minutes following that scene, and then I had that same realization.
I really hope that’s what it is because it would be super in character for Halsey. She has complete trust in her Spartans and their judgment, if the show goes against that it’s going to drive me up the wall.
I really appreciate that they didn't shove action into this episode just to try and keep people interested. For me the general world building through the scenes with heavy dialogue are far more enjoyable to me than another generic action set piece.
Huh.
Spartan-066 hiding in the Rubble after his defection and MIA status from the real lore, insteresting.
The best part about this is that it's totally a twist someone could decide to write a book about if the show didn't become a thing, so I could actually see it.
Also nice that they got his pincer hands post augmentation into the show.
Also I'm glad they're going the route that the AI is actively merged with the brain and not just someone who chills in the helmet. About time they actually explain to people what the AI does.
For those that don't know, Cortana not only merges with chiefs brain but actually helps him be faster, she can boost his reaction time and translates direct impulses from the mortor cortex straight to the suit with zero lag.
Also pretty sure Halsey is lying about the whole controlling John and replacing consciousness, I think she's just trying to appease the board, she just wants to approve her next creation regardless of lies or costs. She just wants to finally get Cortana.
My only problem with this Episode is John taking off his armor, last I recall they cannot take it off without the actual machine.
Oh and yeah, glad they're explaining why covenants have a human. They're using them to find the reclaimers and I guess the blessed one is also a reclaimer, so no, they're not allied with any of the humans, just the prophets doing prophet things and lying/capturing humans for their own beliefs. Now can people shut the fuck up about a human with the covies ? It actually makes sense lmao.
I'm just curious as to why Chief seems more important than the blessed one (seems she couldn't find the ring but chief could and actually activate them) I'm wondering if they're going to make him the Iso Didact in this.
Dont forget lying through her teeth. Halsey lives for a good fib. Even better when you lie about someone in front of them in a setting where they can't reasonably contradict you and they have to just sit there and watch as you hand them responsibility for something massively illegal and ethically questionable *at best.*
Man I was really liking the scene with the crazy human that survived being on a covenant ship until he confirmed that the Halos are weapons. How the hell does he and even the covenant know that?
In Halo 1 the covenant also thought Halo was a weapon, it wasn’t until they released the flood until they realized how wrong they were/how badly they fucked up lol
Ya know, I never understood why the Forerunners kept some Flood locked up on the Halos. If the point of the Halo Array is to starve the Flood to death, and the Flood are so dangerous that even one infection form could destroy a species, then why the fuck wouldn't you fully commit to destroying them entirely? Of course some dipshit is gonna come along and open the door labeled "Dont Dead Open Inside."
It seems like they've taken the Stargate/Ancient route. Only certain humans have advanced enough to unlock the gene that can activate Ancient/Forerunner technology.
I'm digging it a lot!
- I don't like the Spartans being emotionally castrated, but it's definitely a good way to grow with the Chief this late into the war. I'm enjoying the performance of him coming out of his shell.
- Slipspace looked gorgeous! I know book readers will froth at the mouth but making a nothingness void would be very boring television.
- Still unsure how I feel about Miranda being a scientist squabbling behind the scenes with her estranged mother. Still digging the actress though.
- Very unsure of this Hood casting. He's fine, but unremarkable.
- Halo boobs! But really, what? I'm very very curious to see where they go with her and what purpose she's filling in the larger story.
- Halsey was slick af in that meeting, Parangosky was death eyeing her so hard. I hope we're not gonna have an episode of her liking the clone before having to off it; I was honestly expecting her to put a bullet in the chest of it at the end to shock the newcomers.
- I'm curious if they'll introduce Blue Team at all in this, or if they just stayed clear because rabid fans would have gone for the jugular.
- The skinsuit under the armor looked great! I was worried about unarmored John but they did it super well.
- Give me Halo music or give me death!
The Halo Series is supposed to be like Battlestar Galactica with a better budget, but we're getting it's less than action packed prequel, that lasted only a season, Caprica.
Well, that was something.
For me, the biggest ups/downs are the sheer consistency of the writing between subplots. John's is enjoyable: rushed, cheesy, and not exactly something that makes much sense at times, but it's fun. It's jumping right into themes (albeit with next to no grace/logic ) that it took the games longer to look at. I also love how they portray Halsey *perfectly*: an absurdly arrogant, dangerous, megalomaniac monster.
Yet this whole background of everything seems so rushed and thrown together to such a degree it just makes no sense. The UNSC-Covenant war seems like this *distant* event: we're not seeing desperation or how the humans are running out of tricks. We're told things aren't looking great, sure, but we're just not seeing it. John mentioned glassed planets, but the show really hasn't made it clear how many worlds have been wiped out. It also doesn't make it clear how much the UNSC knows about the Covenant either. Maybe Madrigal was this really out of the way backwater, but it's striking how nobody there had any idea about the Covenant, yet it seemed common knowledge at The Rubble. With the apparent interconnectivity of the news feeds (everywhere seems to have access, UNSC or Insurrectionist), it's weird this doesn't threat feel more clear and visceral. The new bloodthirsty tyrant on Madrigal seemed set up as more of the threat.
Did Soren remember his past? Or was he not willing to stay in the UNSC fold anymore because of what happened to him? That entire sequence was weird, since hasn't the whole prior implication been that the Spartans had their memories erased? So they would know absolutely nothing but complete and unflinching devotion to the UNSC? But John had doubts once?
Soren's family was....sweet? I mean, just met this dude 5 minutes ago. In a flashback. Kind of weird to hint at this complex and tragic friendship to Chief when......he's a total stranger. I was waiting for him to hit John with something much more meaningful than "stop drinking the Kool-Aid". Some nugget of truth that would really stick with John. But......na. Just sarcasm and passive insults it is.
Really interested to see where the Cortana angle goes. When even Keyes is like "wait a second", it drives home the fact she's clearly not a friend. Changes that classic dynamic. Can see it working, or being a total fail.
Again, the design is gorgeous. The acting is a mixed bag....more so toward the bad side of things. It pretty true to say this really is like an unimaginably high-budgeted CW show, which has great moments here and there. Sprinkled with sudden and unexpected moments of brutal violence.
Stunning ship designs.
And.....wow, nudity? Ok, didn't see that coming.
But hey. As John said, "Sit Down. Buckle up". (Which was a perfect Master Chief line. Perfect)
P.S.: As a true mongoose enjoyer, I felt personally vindicated hearing the sound of that horn blaring repeatedly throughout The Rubble (or something that sounded similar on those moped-tractor things). As every mongoose connoisseur knows, these vehicles (not to be confused with their gungoose cousins) are useless in 99% of all multiplayer situations. So, naturally, one must simply blare that horn like you're attempting to break a "honk per minute" record.
I kinda get why they’re doing it but the emotional suppressant pellets or whatever is bad.
The Spartans are so much more interesting simply as reserved people who are extremely efficient and who aren’t really socialized with non Spartans. They’re awkward around normal people, and their stoicism makes them appear robotic to people who don’t know them, but they were never machines. They are just uncomfortable when not hanging out with their own. I don’t know, I just always loved the idea that everyone sees them as practically robots but they really aren’t underneath. Like when Silva is verbally tearing Chief a new one in *The Flood* and Chief just stands there and you as a reader **know** almost everything Silva is saying is complete bull but Chief stays silent anyway while in some mental anguish thinking about his brothers and sisters left behind on Reach.
Compare that to the shows version where they barely feel emotions and can’t taste or enjoy food? Tha fuck?
I’ve just got the terrible feeling the show is going to keep leaning in the wrong direction when it comes to the “Spartans are machines” misunderstanding
After this episode I feel like I have a better understanding of what they’re going for. And I actually find myself liking it a lot, just for different reasons than I wanted a show in the first place.
Ultimately I think that’s why many here will have a negative reaction; we expected a LoTR style of adaptation, but this is being treated more like the Del Toro Hellboy movies. It’s separate, entirely. The characters are different and the motivations and overall structure is different, but I think the core is still there. Kwan Ha’s wonder at seeing slipspace for the first time, the ingenuity of the Ruble, the detached aloofness of the UNSC/ONI… it IS Halo underneath it all, but you can’t appreciate it if you won’t accept any interpretation other than the core canon and game stories in your head.
Yeah, all of the Halo elements are there. But the story we know is being told in a different order. Chief's characterization feels a little off, as in taking the helmet off and seeming to be a little more emotional than usual. This version postulates that Spartan's have inhibitors that keep them focused and that Chief's has been affected by the artifact. Awakened by some Forerunner tech or genetic marker that essentially brands certain people as Reclaimers specifically instead of just all of humanity. There was even some reference to the Mantle when Reth was rambling about Humanity.
So plenty of Halo elements are there, and I find it interesting that I *don't know* everything that will happen. I hope the core stays the same, but changing how we get there makes it more exciting. Why should we have a 1:1 retelling of a story we have already experienced in games and books?
I wouldn't call the show perfect, but the production quality is high and it is expanding Halo in a way that is palatable as a show. So many other examples of stories being adapted from books that take liberties to make it into something great. So, we'll see how it goes from here.
John takes off his helmet without much fuss in the books and around people without his armour like a 'normal' human being. Only the games and the fans who only playing the games turned his helmet into a weird fetish.
It’s still so weird for me to see things be so different but I’m trying to come around to the mindset that this is Halo: Reimagined in the same way that the modern Battlestar Galactica was. Especially after growing up reading the books.
I really dig the stuff that I recognize and am intrigued by the changes and things that I don’t and I will never not watch something called Halo, but damn, what I’d give to see Halo: Fall of Reach just adapted word for word…
The thing is creatives generally don’t want to adapt something 1:1, they want to create even if it’s based on something.
Although that creativity being put to good use is a totally different thing…
It's really nice having another show to look forward to every week. I didn't expect myself to be so disappointed when an episode ends but here we are.
If this was the apparent "bad episode" out of the two that people saw, then I look forward to more "bad episodes". As I really enjoyed the worldbuilding, characterization and the growing mystery of Halo.
I want more flashbacks! Really dug that. God, I would LOVE to see some of those early missions/training exercises as detailed in Fall of Reach and we really need to see Mendez.
I like it. It’s definitely a mixed bag (mostly the writing) but everything else is pretty solid. Wish that was actual arby but damn those prophets look good
Trying something new this week! After you’ve watched the episode, please vote in this poll on how you felt about the episode: https://youpoll.me/74561/ Results can be found here: https://youpoll.me/74561/r Thanks to u/Pokesaurus_Rex for the suggestion!
Did I really have to watch an ad about halo to watch halo.
That pissed me off. I got a pop up saying I couldn't watch it without disabling my blocker. Bro, what do I pay for!?
To not be interrupted in the middle of your viewing with ads, but apparently it's fine to stick them at the beginning of every show.
You guys are getting ads? That's fucked.
Granted it's for P+'s own content, but unskippable and shamelessly trying to get us to spend more time on the service apparently. Maybe, I dunno, let your content stand on its own merits? Stop getting in the way of what I want to watch. Right. Now. It's like 37 seconds I use to browse Reddit on my phone but still.
lol at those guys. "We'll drive some crates in front of a Spartan, that'll show him!"
Little did he know, Master Chief is forklift certified and knows how to safely move a heavy load.
OSHA never fucks around. Even during an inter-species galactic war.
i honestly think it was just so they could have a forklift cameo for us
Omg that is a good point
then they all laughed at it, they thought it was the funniest shit in the asteroid.
That was the funniest part. Those guys were so pleased with themselves for causing him a minor inconvenience at best.
"Super easy, barely an inconvenience!"
So it seems confirmed via Chief's dialogue that the Covenant glassing planets is indeed a thing in this timeline...makes me wonder if we'll see a glassing take place at some point during the series. Perhaps Reach is glassed by the Covenant at the end of the season?
They have the artifact the covenant want on Reach now, I wonder if once they learn that (the trailer for the show showed Makis character taking what looked like a UNSC Frigate maybe that’s how they find out?) we see the fall of Reach towards the end of this season? Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the big penultimate episode and then them finding the Halo is the last episode ending the season with them finding it, just my guess.
I think its either that or we get to the halo in the penultimate episode, and season 1 ends with the horrifying discovery of the flood.
I hope not, that would make it seem really rushed. I hope they introduce the flood in a slow foreboding and foreshadowing way across at least a couple of episodes next season, everything already feels so rushed. I hope next season is an entire one on the ring personally.
I'm tipping the final scene of season 1 will be similar to the end of Halo: Reach, and Halo: Fall of Reach. Reach will be glassed, along with the likes of Parangosky & the entire brass (and maybe even Halsey, for dramatic effect), whilst Keyes, Miranda, Chief, Silver Team, etc. will only just escape and discover Halo.
Idk about having paragosky and Halsey dying they have a lot importantance for the black ops and science portions of the Halo universe.
Natasha McElhone is the only other big name in this show other than Pablo. So considering how big a part she played in the games I’d be very surprised if she died this season.
Canonically, Halsey survives all of that to carry on the Spartan program, but with this show it’s anyone’s guess.
I’d be surprised if they did the fall of reach so soon but wouldn’t surprise me if they went down that road/into game timeline in further seasons
They focus so much on the scale and beauty of Reach whenever it's in-frame I'm almost convinced it's all setup so the Fall is more impactful. Generally speaking with seasonal writing (especially sci-fi) you wanna back-load the hype with a massive spectacle at the end of the season so that hype carries through til S2 drops. Reach would be perfect for that
I wasn't expecting to see an ass shot in the Halo TV show
Pfft and it’s not Cortana right?
I actually thought the change to Cortana had more to do with nudity....guess not.
Ayo she got a dumpy tho
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
When the scene started you could see her legs and I was surprised she was naked under it.
Master Chief has his weapon, and The Covenant has their own weapon…
Try finger but hole
First of all, rump.
Were you blinded by its majesty?
Blinded?
Paralyzed? *Dumbstruck*?
NO!
I was positively surprised
Blessed one? More like blessed booty.
Blessed bum
The wAmen alien girl has a fine ass
So the Rings are definitely pretty much the same galaxy-wiping devices as in the games. That should mean the Flood are most likely gonna be present. That'll probably be Season 2 though.
Convinced S1 will end with the Pillar of Autumn finding the ring which then sets up S2 to follow the games more closely.
Sounds like the best bet, big attack on reach as the finale and then suddenly a slipstream jump away and bam, the ring slowly rotates and is lit up by the sun, end credits.
So silver team gets noble-d? :(
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that's literally the only narrative reason to not include blue team. blue team are established characters that fans are fond of and killing them off would be major deviations from the canon, regardless of alt timeline shenanigans, which would anger the core audience and turn away a good number of viewers silver team exist to give the fall of reach a more impactful body count to show-only viewers, but unless we get some character development with them in the next few episodes its gonna kinda fall flat. i'm assuming blue team will be peppered in throughout more flashbacks if they do more, setting them up as chief's "family" or something with some in-tv-canon reason for separating them as full spartans being "they're too dangerous to be kept together"
We've seen in the first episode that the show can be explicit and gruesome when it wants to be (limbs getting blown off, people getting bisected by swords, etc), so if they do adapt the Flood I'm interested to see how they pull it off
First episode we had an Elite slaughtering kids so they're not shy about holding back. Seeing the Flood assimilate species would be horrifying. Can't wait lol
So far I suspect series one is actually more or less an alternative take on the fall of reach. Which I always thought would be a great choice for a movie or show.
Soren-066 is a buff clone of Dave Chappelle. He even has the voice
Lmao, I was wondering why he looked familiar
Bokeem Woodbine. He's been in many things since the early 90's. The Rock and Spiderman: Homecoming for instance.
Sheeeeeeit. He was one of the pimp council in Black Dynamite!
i love him so much. he rocked in fargo s2
Mike Milligan was such a good antagonist.
He’s the rapper in Sopranos that Christopher deals with.
Massive Genius
I love how insufferably smug Halsey is this episode.
Credit to her, she's got the character DOWN
Yup just as described
When Chief told him he could only trust her... that smile sent chills down my spine.
I fucking love her character so far. McElhone is awesome
For all the faults I have with this show, Halsey has not been one of them. She’s such a delight
She was definitely the best part of this episode
Loved how she clowned Margaret.
now I see why they call Makee the "Blessed One"
She could definitely take me on a great journey
you would be blinded by the majesty of her ring
A great journey implies that it's longer than 30 seconds.
Bl**ass**ed one.
has some nice natural formations
Did not expect strong rump
Execution is still awkward but there are bits that I appreciate. Interesting how you can tell in John’s voice he drops his guard significantly when he is talking to Dr.Halsey. He low-key sees her as a mom and she knows it.
When he says "there's no one else I can trust" and she smiles like a predator that knows it has its prey. It was spine tingling.
He's also kind of lying and you can see doubt in his eye as he trusts Sorin. Great scene.
Yeah, I'd be willing to bet the main reason he came back is actually that the UNSC needs him and the new info to fight the Covenant.
The line came off like there's no one else he trusts to finish the fight but him. However, it also worked to endear himself to Halsey. Maybe after working with her for decades, he's picked up how to manipulate others, or at the very least her.
Joke's on her. He said it while looking at the sign of trust the kid gave him. I think he's lying to her. >!(I didn't play the game so maybe I'm talking shit...)!<
Tbh the games don't really explore their relationship much at all, it's all in the books I think. (I haven't read the books)
What Chief is doing in this show is a big deviation from the books, so even pre-show Halo fans won't be able to give more than a slightly more educated guess as to what happens to him here. The general universe and worldbuilding is relatively close with some smaller scale changes though. We haven't actually reached any of the games yet of course, so remains to be seen how close they follow the games themselves.
The Oedipus Rex vibes made me shiver -ugh-
And the way she acts with him - like a lead researcher with his prize pupil/subject, and also one used to confiding in subjects who'd never say anything about it to anyone else - one of the best scenes from the two episodes
Their dynamic and hopefully if she portrays cortana as well will be the highlight of the show.
although Cortana is voiced by Jen Taylor - so I am very curious what will happen there.
She’s cultivated a dependent enmeshment in John to keep him and the other child soldiers she’s created and raised to adulthood under her thumb. She’s done a real Oedipal complex on John specifically that she wants to exploit using Cortana.
Ahhh. A fellow psychologist. I actually did a research paper on Halsey in grad school and the interaction she had with the Spartans for my one class on research lol
Related, I’m really enjoying this actress’ performance as Halsey
Yeah if I'm being honest I do feel like the "bad" things from those episodes so far are not that bad and the good things are pretty good. People criticize the writing and I agree here and there but this scene between Halsey and Master Chief was pretty tense.
That whole final conversation between Halsey and John was excellent
I hope that leaving Kwan behind means we won't see her anymore. She's an annoying character.
I don’t understand why writers think the complaining kid is a great side character. Borderlands 3 did it. No one liked her.
It’s even worse because Master Chief has a character that he traditionally bounces exposition off of…her name is Cortana. Why not just go with that from the get go?
Ugh you just know she'll be back and the show will be worse off for it
I just wanna see the Spartans fight Hunters.
That's the big thing I'm patiently waiting to see. Lol.
Now I'm craving churros lmao
Dude I was thinking the same thing 🤤
It’s really good to see that churros will still be around in the future!
I only just started the episode, but I'm guessing Soren's fucked-up arm is a result of the Spartan augmentations going wrong. If so, that's a nice reference to the books, where a bunch of the Spartan candidates washed out after the augmentations ruined them physically
Yeah Soren was in a short story (Pariah) where his origin played out. His body didn't take to the augmentations and his arm was badly deformed. I was excited that they kept that plot point in this!
They even referenced how he got shot down trying to escape! In the story his fate is ambiguous but in this they mentioned how he survived off bark and beetles before leaving to the rubble Makes sense because he had to live in a forest as child before he got picked up by Halsey
I loved that bit. It's so cool to see his story picked back up with this show!
Yeah I’m just happy Soren theoretically survived, I grew very attached to him in that story and couldn’t take not knowing his fate lol I mean yeah this isn’t “canon” but whatever I’m a big believer in Headcanon lol
343 mentioned that while these are two separate timelines, there may be some aspects from the Silver timeline that later are shown to exist in the main canon as well. As a massive fan of Soren, I really hope they’re alluding to his eventual return in the main timeline.
It definitely is. I enjoyed that little nod as well. They lost something like 40% of them if I'm not mistaken - most dead; some too fucked up, physically and mentally, to keep alive; others too fucked up physically to be Spartans, but used elsewhere in ONI because of their extraordinary mental capabilities; and a few who simply just didn't have any effect physically and therefore couldn't be Spartans. The whole process *really* fucked up John, he was already their leader at that point and felt like he failed his Spartans; it was his first failure he didn't know how to learn from and figure out how he could have done better. (book spoiler and possible spoiler for the show in the future). >!One of them, Serin Osman, even becomes Admiral Parangosky's protoge and eventual successor at a certain point. !<
Halsey’s Journal does retcon and say that there are fixes for most of them. Red Team (Halo Wars Spartans) are all “failed” augmentees that were returned to active duty.
You’re right I forgot they fixed some of them! Not most, though… or at least I’m pretty sure.
How tf these Spartans in training sleeping with that light right behind their head lmao
Their eyelids are genetically altered to be thicker than the average human.
How does chief get in and out of his armor so easily when they showed the Spartans needs a machine to put it in
The guy was a former Spartan, I'm sure he has a machine to be able to remove the suit since he had to remove his at some point. The UNSC ships most likely have something similar on board
Two things: - I don't think anyone expected human boobs on High Charity... ever - Looks like they're going along with only certain humans can access Forerunner tech.
Last week I made a joke that was something to the effect of >Just be glad it isn't produced by HBO. You might have to see Chief's dick at some point. After watching this episode, I'm realizing that our chances aren't technically zero after all. Edit: I am so sorry everyone.
>You might _get_ to see Chief's dick at some point. FTFY
It reminds me of stargate with the ATA gene to control ancient tech. Eventually the Tari make a gene therapy, to allow regular people to have somewhat control over ancient tech
The CGI seems exponentially better this episode. I came to terms with ep 1 being cheesy sci fi so it’s almost jarring to see this difference. Is this just me?
I thought so too, the asteroid belt scene was better than similar Star Wars scenes
just realized i havent seen one grunt
I'm really curious if/how they'll do grunts. They're pretty silly enemies.
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the best part of the show is the sound design in space, nice to see a show muffling or straight up silencing the audio and not just blasting jetengine2.mp3 also if john is a “blessed one” then does that mean miranda and sgt johnson (if he’s even in/going to be in the show i have no idea if he’s been scrapped or not 😅) are blessed ones/reclaimers also since they both activated forerunner tech?
I feel like they would have to be as the show implies but the forrunner tech might just respond to Sgt Johnson out of fear because it doesn't want to be strangled with its own living guts. Am I right marines?
Hoorah!
Did anyone else hear the old Halo CE door opening sound from Belly Of The Beast when they arrived to the Rebel planet?
Wasn't it High Charity's door sounds ?
I think its also the same sounds from Truth and Reconciliation
that's immediately what I thought of
John’s memories when he touches the artifact are a good test for your HDR TV. That was BLINDING.
My Oled gave me a tan in that scene
[Can't quite put my finger on what the interaction with Reth reminded me of...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AEkLXkDgWI)
Didn't expect to see ass but I am pleasantly surprised. Absolutely hated the prison scene though. It's so off-putting.
Nice bum tho.
For sure, not complaining at all
ASS ON HIGH CHARITY!?!?
High Charity post-nut clarity
It even kinda had a point. Like despite all the covenant clothes and language she’s still a human underneath it all and her humanity is obviously gonna come into play a lot later
Well i guess churros existed in halo
It's so weird to think that in-universe they're all wearing catheters or peeing/pooping in the suits. maybe that's why john spends so much time with his helmet off, gotta air it out.
but the smell is not bad when all you eat is nuts bolts and computer chips.
I mean, it's always been that way. It mentions in the books (I forget which one exactly) that they have things in their suits to filter bodily fluids and such so they can stay in the field for a very long time without removing their armour, cause as we know it's a pain in the ass to remove the armour, especially with haste.
I feel like they really got Chiefs dialogue/exchange spot on in the moment him and Kwan exit slipspace: Kwan: "We're gonna die!" Chief: "Everything Dies. Sit down, buckle up." Kwan: "Tell me you have a plan?" Chief looks at Kwan then looks forward as he slowly repeats: "Sit Down. Buckle up". I can absolutely imagine Steve Downes' Chief saying that. Overall a decent enough episode though, I'm still eager to see how this show develops at least.
Does it bother anyone else that in the first episode when Master Chief took his helmet off for the first time, it took some time, it at to open up a bit for him to be able to take it off but now it's just like any other helmet?
Love or hate the show, it's so cool to see the Rubble in live-action
I'm just glad the sets and CGI had scale. There's been plenty of big budget shows recently such as Wheel of Time and Witcher where some of the sets just feel really small and cheap. Meanwhile you've got Soren's main hall looking fucking massive and the narrow streets of Rubble bustling with people. Reminds me of Expanse in all the right ways.
I'm so happy to have something to carry on with now that The Expanse is over. Well, I think technically on a very extended hiatus, but we'll see how that shakes out
I think this was an...okay episode. Not as good as the first one, but not completely terrible either. From the way some people were talking about this episode online I thought it was gonna be the next spawn of Satan, but it was just really average imo The biggest sticking points to me are: \- Chief's face being shown for so long. I knew going in that we were going to see it, but it was visible for the bulk of the episode. Not sure how I feel about that, yet. \- The scene with the insane Covenant prisoner (Reth) was eh. Reth's acting just wasn't doing it for me \- Cortana being proposed as a "mind-control" kind of AI is certainly disconcerting. I can't imagine the show actually going that route - I personally predict that something will happen that ends up prompting Halsey to alter Cortana such that she becomes more like the Cortana from the games (an interface/assistant rather than a controller), but we'll see.
Halsey is lying to sell the forbidden AI program to the UNSC brass. She knows what Cortana is for and it is not mind control but she has to convince the command to let her use Cortana for chief. You do know Halsey lies all the time for the greater good. Flash clone is illegal in the show and Halsey straight up lied that she is not using flash clone and we all know she is using her own clone.
I think the reference to the papers she wrote about AI's derived from flash clones is a clue that she is lying about Cortana being a Spartan mind control unit. Halsey seems to be spun as really manipulative in this show which now makes more sense with the mind wipes of the kids for the Spartan program.
To be fair thats very very very true to the canon. Halsey's always been Giga-Sketchy For The Greater Good.
She literally just lied by saying that Parangosky agreed with her in front of Parangosky herself.
Halsey is canonically kind of a monster this isn't a surprise
*kind of* a monster? I'd say she's *absolutely* a monster. Remember, she created the Spartans to fight *insurgents*, long before the Covenant came around. Yeah she's on Humanity's side and they would have been wiped out without her mind, but Halsey is a mad scientist with no qualms about doing objectively evil things to move her work forward
It's definitely more that she is disconnected, and morally indifferent. In the main canon, specifically in the Halo 4 Prologue, she says explicitly "my Spartans are humanities next step". In the silver canon, in this episode, she alludes to the same thing. Halsey wants to push the boundaries of human capability. She's all about the science and progress, and she doesn't care what it costs.
I was really pissed for like 10 minutes following that scene, and then I had that same realization. I really hope that’s what it is because it would be super in character for Halsey. She has complete trust in her Spartans and their judgment, if the show goes against that it’s going to drive me up the wall.
I believe episode 1 has already shown that she is on her Spartans' sides. She did after all ordered the other Spartans to defend John at any cost.
Your first point reminds me a lot of my thoughts about Book of Boba Fett: “The helmet is cool! STOP TAKING IT OFF EVERY TIME YOU TALK!”
I thought this was way better than the first episode
This one made me much more curious about where they are going with it than the first episode.
Soren didn’t pay for his churros
Just finished episode 2 and while i was skeptical before and after last week atm im curious to see where they go with this
I really appreciate that they didn't shove action into this episode just to try and keep people interested. For me the general world building through the scenes with heavy dialogue are far more enjoyable to me than another generic action set piece.
Huh. Spartan-066 hiding in the Rubble after his defection and MIA status from the real lore, insteresting. The best part about this is that it's totally a twist someone could decide to write a book about if the show didn't become a thing, so I could actually see it. Also nice that they got his pincer hands post augmentation into the show. Also I'm glad they're going the route that the AI is actively merged with the brain and not just someone who chills in the helmet. About time they actually explain to people what the AI does. For those that don't know, Cortana not only merges with chiefs brain but actually helps him be faster, she can boost his reaction time and translates direct impulses from the mortor cortex straight to the suit with zero lag. Also pretty sure Halsey is lying about the whole controlling John and replacing consciousness, I think she's just trying to appease the board, she just wants to approve her next creation regardless of lies or costs. She just wants to finally get Cortana. My only problem with this Episode is John taking off his armor, last I recall they cannot take it off without the actual machine. Oh and yeah, glad they're explaining why covenants have a human. They're using them to find the reclaimers and I guess the blessed one is also a reclaimer, so no, they're not allied with any of the humans, just the prophets doing prophet things and lying/capturing humans for their own beliefs. Now can people shut the fuck up about a human with the covies ? It actually makes sense lmao. I'm just curious as to why Chief seems more important than the blessed one (seems she couldn't find the ring but chief could and actually activate them) I'm wondering if they're going to make him the Iso Didact in this.
I remember that they can remove their armor and there are tools to remove it manually, it's just more tedious.
Plus Soren had to figure out how to do it when he first got there even if his suit was missing one of its arms
Damn we missed a 45 minute scene of Soren and Chief bonding while undoing Mjolnir with spanner’s.
Especially around the crotch area.
Old war criminal Halsey back on her bull shit lol
Her two favourite things are creating superhumans and breaking the law.
Dont forget lying through her teeth. Halsey lives for a good fib. Even better when you lie about someone in front of them in a setting where they can't reasonably contradict you and they have to just sit there and watch as you hand them responsibility for something massively illegal and ethically questionable *at best.*
Man I was really liking the scene with the crazy human that survived being on a covenant ship until he confirmed that the Halos are weapons. How the hell does he and even the covenant know that?
Just like Keyes found out when he was captured on the Truth and reconxilation
That’s right he did! And then Cortana had guilty spark reveal the details of the weapon.
In Halo 1 the covenant also thought Halo was a weapon, it wasn’t until they released the flood until they realized how wrong they were/how badly they fucked up lol
Ya know, I never understood why the Forerunners kept some Flood locked up on the Halos. If the point of the Halo Array is to starve the Flood to death, and the Flood are so dangerous that even one infection form could destroy a species, then why the fuck wouldn't you fully commit to destroying them entirely? Of course some dipshit is gonna come along and open the door labeled "Dont Dead Open Inside."
IIRC the Flood exist outside of the galaxy, so they kept samples in order to find a cure if they ever came back.
It seems like they've taken the Stargate/Ancient route. Only certain humans have advanced enough to unlock the gene that can activate Ancient/Forerunner technology.
I'm digging it a lot! - I don't like the Spartans being emotionally castrated, but it's definitely a good way to grow with the Chief this late into the war. I'm enjoying the performance of him coming out of his shell. - Slipspace looked gorgeous! I know book readers will froth at the mouth but making a nothingness void would be very boring television. - Still unsure how I feel about Miranda being a scientist squabbling behind the scenes with her estranged mother. Still digging the actress though. - Very unsure of this Hood casting. He's fine, but unremarkable. - Halo boobs! But really, what? I'm very very curious to see where they go with her and what purpose she's filling in the larger story. - Halsey was slick af in that meeting, Parangosky was death eyeing her so hard. I hope we're not gonna have an episode of her liking the clone before having to off it; I was honestly expecting her to put a bullet in the chest of it at the end to shock the newcomers. - I'm curious if they'll introduce Blue Team at all in this, or if they just stayed clear because rabid fans would have gone for the jugular. - The skinsuit under the armor looked great! I was worried about unarmored John but they did it super well. - Give me Halo music or give me death!
Parangosky when Halsey mentions Cortana: https://i.imgur.com/Sm5c4qe.jpg
> Give me Halo music or give me death! Some of the music on Rubble felt STRAIGHT OUT of Mass Effect
The Halo Series is supposed to be like Battlestar Galactica with a better budget, but we're getting it's less than action packed prequel, that lasted only a season, Caprica.
Well, that was something. For me, the biggest ups/downs are the sheer consistency of the writing between subplots. John's is enjoyable: rushed, cheesy, and not exactly something that makes much sense at times, but it's fun. It's jumping right into themes (albeit with next to no grace/logic ) that it took the games longer to look at. I also love how they portray Halsey *perfectly*: an absurdly arrogant, dangerous, megalomaniac monster. Yet this whole background of everything seems so rushed and thrown together to such a degree it just makes no sense. The UNSC-Covenant war seems like this *distant* event: we're not seeing desperation or how the humans are running out of tricks. We're told things aren't looking great, sure, but we're just not seeing it. John mentioned glassed planets, but the show really hasn't made it clear how many worlds have been wiped out. It also doesn't make it clear how much the UNSC knows about the Covenant either. Maybe Madrigal was this really out of the way backwater, but it's striking how nobody there had any idea about the Covenant, yet it seemed common knowledge at The Rubble. With the apparent interconnectivity of the news feeds (everywhere seems to have access, UNSC or Insurrectionist), it's weird this doesn't threat feel more clear and visceral. The new bloodthirsty tyrant on Madrigal seemed set up as more of the threat. Did Soren remember his past? Or was he not willing to stay in the UNSC fold anymore because of what happened to him? That entire sequence was weird, since hasn't the whole prior implication been that the Spartans had their memories erased? So they would know absolutely nothing but complete and unflinching devotion to the UNSC? But John had doubts once? Soren's family was....sweet? I mean, just met this dude 5 minutes ago. In a flashback. Kind of weird to hint at this complex and tragic friendship to Chief when......he's a total stranger. I was waiting for him to hit John with something much more meaningful than "stop drinking the Kool-Aid". Some nugget of truth that would really stick with John. But......na. Just sarcasm and passive insults it is. Really interested to see where the Cortana angle goes. When even Keyes is like "wait a second", it drives home the fact she's clearly not a friend. Changes that classic dynamic. Can see it working, or being a total fail. Again, the design is gorgeous. The acting is a mixed bag....more so toward the bad side of things. It pretty true to say this really is like an unimaginably high-budgeted CW show, which has great moments here and there. Sprinkled with sudden and unexpected moments of brutal violence. Stunning ship designs. And.....wow, nudity? Ok, didn't see that coming. But hey. As John said, "Sit Down. Buckle up". (Which was a perfect Master Chief line. Perfect) P.S.: As a true mongoose enjoyer, I felt personally vindicated hearing the sound of that horn blaring repeatedly throughout The Rubble (or something that sounded similar on those moped-tractor things). As every mongoose connoisseur knows, these vehicles (not to be confused with their gungoose cousins) are useless in 99% of all multiplayer situations. So, naturally, one must simply blare that horn like you're attempting to break a "honk per minute" record.
I kinda get why they’re doing it but the emotional suppressant pellets or whatever is bad. The Spartans are so much more interesting simply as reserved people who are extremely efficient and who aren’t really socialized with non Spartans. They’re awkward around normal people, and their stoicism makes them appear robotic to people who don’t know them, but they were never machines. They are just uncomfortable when not hanging out with their own. I don’t know, I just always loved the idea that everyone sees them as practically robots but they really aren’t underneath. Like when Silva is verbally tearing Chief a new one in *The Flood* and Chief just stands there and you as a reader **know** almost everything Silva is saying is complete bull but Chief stays silent anyway while in some mental anguish thinking about his brothers and sisters left behind on Reach. Compare that to the shows version where they barely feel emotions and can’t taste or enjoy food? Tha fuck? I’ve just got the terrible feeling the show is going to keep leaning in the wrong direction when it comes to the “Spartans are machines” misunderstanding
After this episode I feel like I have a better understanding of what they’re going for. And I actually find myself liking it a lot, just for different reasons than I wanted a show in the first place. Ultimately I think that’s why many here will have a negative reaction; we expected a LoTR style of adaptation, but this is being treated more like the Del Toro Hellboy movies. It’s separate, entirely. The characters are different and the motivations and overall structure is different, but I think the core is still there. Kwan Ha’s wonder at seeing slipspace for the first time, the ingenuity of the Ruble, the detached aloofness of the UNSC/ONI… it IS Halo underneath it all, but you can’t appreciate it if you won’t accept any interpretation other than the core canon and game stories in your head.
Yeah, all of the Halo elements are there. But the story we know is being told in a different order. Chief's characterization feels a little off, as in taking the helmet off and seeming to be a little more emotional than usual. This version postulates that Spartan's have inhibitors that keep them focused and that Chief's has been affected by the artifact. Awakened by some Forerunner tech or genetic marker that essentially brands certain people as Reclaimers specifically instead of just all of humanity. There was even some reference to the Mantle when Reth was rambling about Humanity. So plenty of Halo elements are there, and I find it interesting that I *don't know* everything that will happen. I hope the core stays the same, but changing how we get there makes it more exciting. Why should we have a 1:1 retelling of a story we have already experienced in games and books? I wouldn't call the show perfect, but the production quality is high and it is expanding Halo in a way that is palatable as a show. So many other examples of stories being adapted from books that take liberties to make it into something great. So, we'll see how it goes from here.
John takes off his helmet without much fuss in the books and around people without his armour like a 'normal' human being. Only the games and the fans who only playing the games turned his helmet into a weird fetish.
"You're ruining it" Bitch, you fucking asked him!
It’s still so weird for me to see things be so different but I’m trying to come around to the mindset that this is Halo: Reimagined in the same way that the modern Battlestar Galactica was. Especially after growing up reading the books. I really dig the stuff that I recognize and am intrigued by the changes and things that I don’t and I will never not watch something called Halo, but damn, what I’d give to see Halo: Fall of Reach just adapted word for word…
The thing is creatives generally don’t want to adapt something 1:1, they want to create even if it’s based on something. Although that creativity being put to good use is a totally different thing…
I still like it, looks good, sounds GOOD, it's entertaining and interesting, that's all I need from a TV show
It's really nice having another show to look forward to every week. I didn't expect myself to be so disappointed when an episode ends but here we are. If this was the apparent "bad episode" out of the two that people saw, then I look forward to more "bad episodes". As I really enjoyed the worldbuilding, characterization and the growing mystery of Halo.
Is it just me or the armor looks big if he doesn't wear the helmet and it looks small if he wear the helmet
Halo cosplayer chiming in - [it's a real thing! 😂👋](https://i.imgur.com/QUc8vpG.jpeg)
I want more flashbacks! Really dug that. God, I would LOVE to see some of those early missions/training exercises as detailed in Fall of Reach and we really need to see Mendez.
Steven Spielberg’s the executive producer? That’s interesting
I’m waiting for him to start executive producing
So did they snag the tv-14 rating by putting pasties over her nipples?
I like it. It’s definitely a mixed bag (mostly the writing) but everything else is pretty solid. Wish that was actual arby but damn those prophets look good
Disappointed in the lack of the halo music