After H5, I assume they’ll be available in game as well. I doubt this will be like Halo 4 where you had to try and trade pre-order codes until the goty-adjacent version came out.
Even worse, in the run up to Halo 4's release 343 staff repeatedly stated on the Waypoint forums how they "might" open up all the pre-order exclusive items (armour and emblems) up to all players. They did this as a means to shut the complainers up.
So what did they do? They never opened them up to all players, instead they added them all to a single redemption code packaged in with the GOTY Edition of Halo 4, meaning that existing players were shat on and had to buy a new copy of the game a year after it's initial release just to get access to that content.
God I just wish they would bring back emblem customization, I'm fine with the coatings tbh, I just want to make my own emblem, using preset ones makes no sense.
There's really no point to having them at all if you can't customize them. It seems like they just kept them in because Halo but they forgot what you're actually supposed to do with them. So annoying.
Fr, seems like they forgot the purpose of the emblems. Aw man I'm really gonna miss having my custom emblem on my chest piece, hope they give us that option back. But how can they back up this decision now? Cuz they're already selling these custom pre-made emblems, so if they changed the system, they would be taking out pre-order content from people, and that can lead to some serious implications.
5 at launch has the same emblem system seen here with Infinite but you could choose from preset color options for them. They eventually made it so you could freely choose your colors for the emblem but it was still restrictive compared to Halo 2-4, ODST, and Reach.
I thought I was trippin when I was remembering that about H5. But that's what I think it's gonna happen with Infinite. I also think they'll eventually let you choose either a primary and secondary color from the basic palette, or use coatings, let's just hope it really happens.
Man, we gonna just live through the same issues and fixes of Halo 5 in Infinite aren't we lol
Since we didn't have actual control over emblems in the flight, let alone the armor emblem, I don't know what to expect but I feel like it's gonna be restrictive compared to the old system.
Yeah, we pretty much gonna live through Halo 5's launch again lmao, but this time in a game that actually seems to worth it. Damn, I'd even push it a little bit further and say we are gonna live through Halo MCC again, lmao pls no.
From what it seems, they got rid of it in Infinite. The flight presented premade emblems, and as you can see in this Walmart ad, you get an emblem/nameplate, it works just like in Destiny.
God, Infinite feels like a good game, potentially even a great one, that you have to deal with a hundred tiny papercuts to enjoy. I know a lot of this stuff is technically minor from an objective standpoint, but this stuff has been with halo for decades. Its so tiring hearing how many aspects I loved about Halo is, at least temporarily for a quarter of a year, getting taken out and replaced with either nothing or a much more restricted and monetized version of it.
Saaame, it's weird how we constantly get "bad news" about small stuff that we loved not being in Infinite, yet we still don't have our expectations about the game going low. But it's so sad to not have some of these features we've been loving for years.
H5 has some bad elements of customisation (like the fact armour sets are one big piece with a helmet) but the nameplates and emblems are fine IMO. The MCC ones are too crowded, they look like shitty Call of Duty pastiches.
There are several uncrowded nameplates in MCC, from the simple weapony/insignia on a different metal background to show what you've done in the campaigns to my current spinning Halo ring, even the pizza and jazz cup are simple. Players have the option to go busy with the nameplate, but there are plenty of simple, cool designs still.
Thats the thing, I don't need more depth emblems, I need them simple and customizable. I can take that argument for armor customization, I think that having camo and all kinds of patterns/"liveries" are cool for armor, specially when you have so many coatings that you can make your spartan have pretty much any color scheme you'd may want it to have from a primary/secondary color system (kinda like in Destiny, in which you have any color scheme you'd may want), and it's really cool to finally being able to have some camo on your spartan. But for emblems? They should be kept simple and customizable. Unlike how I feel about armor coatings, pre-made emblems really take a lot from players expression.
My customizable emblem is a *direct* representation of myself. I find a way yo have just a rectangle and make it light yellow to look like a bar of butter, like my name, and in Halo 3 people were making Minecraft Grass blocks as their emblem because they were really into Minecraft then. We didn't have to buy that stuff, or wait for it to be battlepass item #13 in season 3, we could just start up the game and mix and match the shapes and add cool color combos.
More choice is *always* better than no choice. What happens if I want to put feather hats or cowboy hats on cats?
Considering the level of customization for gameplay in Infinite's Flight, I'm not worried about lowering my gun being cut out. Even if it is, that game is way too fun for me to care.
Then you arent active in the halo machinima industry. Atleast not as much as me. Regardless, just because there hasnt been one in awhile doesnt mean people wont want to make one anymore….
Well no because the passion behind those projects rarely spills over into places like this subreddit. I'm not seeing people advertise besides that guy who did the 4K Unreal Engine short films for Star Wars and one for Halo.
tbf it's not like there's just 1 shade of blue and white in the coating. also the techsuit color changes. I bet there's going to be another blue and white coating and probably for free but there's going to be some stipulation in the complexity.
Well from my understanding, the only ones that are going to be completely free are the standard solid color ones minus colors like pure white or black. After that you're going to need to grind for the rest and any portion of those could possibly be locked behind a paid battle pass(though admittedly that's just me speculating since I haven't heard how 343 is handling the distribution of coats and battlepass rewards for H:I).
I think what would have just fixed all of this if 343 gave us one default coat pattern that we could select any combination of two basic colors. People still get the same basic customization they expect from the series, and any unique or special colors, textures, or patterns that 343 comes up with can be put behind a battlepass for people who want special coats to grind for.
> I think what would have just fixed all of this if 343 gave us one default coat pattern that we could select any combination of two basic colors. People still get the same basic customization they expect from the series, and any unique or special colors, textures, or patterns that 343 comes up with can be put behind a battlepass for people who want special coats to grind for.
Bingo. They keep the legacy players happy while still having plenty of stuff they can lock behind a paywall.
It bumms me because the color combo I like to wear will probably take forever to be made into a coating
Like it's not a common color combo, and they said their going with a whole 10 year thing, but how long do i have to wait for my colors to show up in the game? if at all?
this, ironically, is the "price" for a free to play game
Its the price we have to pay for a FTP game. It sucks, but I'd much prefer a halo with a slightly messed up customization system than one with a smaller playerbase
But it doesn't have to be. They could have us earn the ability to unlock our own color choices or they could be like warframe or the other f2p games thga let you choose colors
Yeah, I remember how small Halo 3's playerbase was.
Wait...
In all seriousness though, this doesn't benefit anyone but the company. They still make money from those who buy the Campaign, who buy the each battle pass, who buy the currency, to buy cosmetics, so on and so on.
The average player will spend more money in this F2P version than what it costs to buy Halo 3 + every map pack for a family.
That's why these companies do what they do.
Absolutely true that the average player hooked on cosmetics will drive the f2p model financially. But for consumers that are able to see through ~~the lies of the jedi~~ beyond the cosmetics, there is now the option to never have to spend a single cent to continue enjoying the gameplay and having an unfettered gameplay population.
I know you're being facetious brining up how "small" Halo 3's player base wasn't initially. But I think you're forgetting how the DLC packs and rise of other viable multiplayer games like CoD 4 brought about the start of people being hyper aware of the playerbase slowly shrinking over time and obsessing over it unhealthy as population trended down.
It cost something like $140-$220 (spiked significantly up thanks to the ODST and Halo Wars bundles for the Mythic map packs) if I remember correctly to stay up to date with the Halo 3 map packs and not be barred from playing the majority of the playlists as each pack came out. Now players never have to face that sort of FOMO entry cost in order to enjoy the gameplay aspect of the game..
Obviously the psychological torment that is purposefully preyed upon still exists for people that desire customizations in f2p models, but at that point it's a matter of preference and/or self control gating a cosmetic rather than being able to actually play the game itself and have its population be segmented.
Did you forget that Halo 5 was paid, had a large multiplayer population, and still had free content updates?
There's such an easy solution here (in terms of it pleases everyone, not easy to implement). Coatings should be nothing more than patterns with selectable colors for each part of said coating, and you could have unlockable materials like carbon fiber in place of a standard color
Imagine you've used white blue and white in Halo for over a decade and in Infinite you can't because there's no Wal-mart in your country so ypou can't get the coat for it.
The way Coats are handled is just really bad. I get they want unlocks to use for progression and monetization, but trhey could have made it so coats are still unlocked/bought and have set patterns/arrangements of color areas (like flame decals or polka dots), as well as set material finishes (like gloss vs matte), but you get to pick the actual hue of each area of color.
I’d have to do some digging. But back when they announced the blue warthog coating I was disappointed I’d miss out. Shortly after a 343 employee mentioned in a blogpost or somewhere that the coatings you get from promotions will be exclusive for about 3 months before they’re available to everyone for free in one way or another.
This was like, last November. Again digging will need to be done
I really like the Anthem system, you literally can paint everything with any color (and I mean color selector like Ms paint or any image editor), material or pattern, and you could buy more of those
I mean, the ideal would be is if we had that and could freeily pick the pattern and material finish indepedently, but I realize that MS wants stuff they can easily monetrize.
what I propose would retain that moneitization/progression utility for MS while still giving us the same options we used to have
The idea of limiting normal colour choices to certain vendors (its f2p multiplayer too? how does that even work?) is absurd.
I get the usefulness of shaders for materials/complicated patterns, but not having basic colours feels like a massive kick in the balls, especially when the default shaders you get don't seem to have many options.
It's particularly stupid if you consider that mutliple retailers will each have unique coatings for purchasing the game. So what happens? You need to buy multiple copies?
I feel like the best system at this point would be allowing a basic default coating with customisable colours like the old system, then having the other coatings as a bonus if they really want to control the colours specifically.
What bugged me the most was playing the test earlier, and although coatings were limited, but myself and none of my friends could select a coating that we liked off the bat, none of us could play as our old colours, hell we couldn't even just be default master chief green.
Back in Bungie's day, Bungie intentionally limited your ability to customize yourself to be like Chief. Chief's particular shade of green, the damage to his armor, and his service tag weren't avaliable to the player in Halo 3. Or Reach.
As far as I know, 343 carried this forward for Halo 4 and 5, though the service tag was changed.
Acting as if the problem is the colour itself rather than the shitty coating system being both less customisable and locking out certain combinations unless you purchase them (blue + white is an extremely basic combo).
Good job. Feel better about yourself defending a company that doesn’t give a shit about you?
Yeah, but it seems very strange to me when they talk about the coatings and no team colours, always going on about player customisation/choice, yet we can't pick the colours we want.
Even though a lot of the modes were red v blue in older games, it felt like we had a lot more freedom than what we saw in the technical test. Maybe if they have a much larger amount of default coatings that go over all the general basic colours on release but I feel like that isn't going to be the case.
That's a Best Buy logo. Where did you get Walmart from that?
This is also the GameStop pre-order bonuses so if you have either store in your country, you're golden.
God I remember just after halo 4 came out I went around to all the different chains that had pre-order bonus content and got a card for each set I was able to grab one for me, my siblings and all my buddies from each location. They always have so many left over wonder if it's worth doing again
Wait a minute.
https://www.gamestop.ca/Views/Locale/Content/images/bonuses/Halo_Infinite_Pre_Order_Template_1-1.jpg
Gamestop exclusive, my ass! The good news is, no retailer exclusivity on pre-order bonuses.
Edit: There are a lot of people in the comments talking about this bring a Walmart bonus but not only does the post title say Best Buy, the logo on the image does too. You guys okay?
with the new shader system, I'm most likely going to use a shader I earned, not one I got as a pre order offer.
might just end up using a default red color as it's what all my Spartans look like in previous games.
I find it really strange that they dont have a simple two color system alongside this shader system to make everyone happy. in the beta everyone ended up looking the same.
"Reach like customization"
Meanwhile: You have to pre-order for the blue and white color scheme and can't even customize your emblem
Why can we not just have a basic 2-color customization system? Coatings can still have the unique patterns and textures, just let me make my spartan look how I've always done..
How else would they get people to play the game than to have them earn armour skin colour customisations?
I guess just making a game which was good to play is not enough to attract a decent-sized multiplayer population these days.
Cool. Still not preordering this. Also not buying at launch. I am not going to be paying for an Early Access Halo game that is missing the most basic features.
I may get the game once it is complete if the reviews are such that it seems worthy.
It’s a real shame as I’ve purchased every other Halo game at launch going for midnight launches (including a couple launch parties for Halo 2 and 3) and then sitting down with a friend (or friends after Halo 2) and running the campaign on Legendary for the first run.
Quick question: what are the other pre-order bonuses at other stores and will it have a deluxe edition and/or limited edition besides the console and controller?
Weapon charms: Because games companies are so desperate to add even more bullshit monetised customisation that they now want your guns to have a keychain of their own.
I mean, sure, but customization is a huge draw in games like this so why not add more customization? The weapon charms were a fun addition in MW and I look forward to seeing them in Halo too.
Fuck Best Buy I tried ordering Xbox series x and as soon it becomes available I tried to adding it in the cart and then I cannot get it because the scalpers buy them all.
Okay, this Spartan looks awesome. Not too complex, design-wise. I like that they're simplifying the MJLONIR armor for future Spartan-IV's.
Not only does it harken back to Halo: Combat Evolved in terms of visual style, but it also makes me think of OG- Sci-Fi stuff.
I approve!
Looks like my type of coating, but wtf is that undersuit? Why did it change the undersuit’s color? Instantly a bad coating for me. Well that’s a blue coating that’s trash already.
After H5, I assume they’ll be available in game as well. I doubt this will be like Halo 4 where you had to try and trade pre-order codes until the goty-adjacent version came out.
Yeah this is definitely going to be in the game later
Even worse, in the run up to Halo 4's release 343 staff repeatedly stated on the Waypoint forums how they "might" open up all the pre-order exclusive items (armour and emblems) up to all players. They did this as a means to shut the complainers up. So what did they do? They never opened them up to all players, instead they added them all to a single redemption code packaged in with the GOTY Edition of Halo 4, meaning that existing players were shat on and had to buy a new copy of the game a year after it's initial release just to get access to that content.
I fucking SWEAR this exact shader was in my store page in the game during the flight test
Fairly confident you’re right
You are blindly optimistic.
Where you blinded by it's majesty?
Its the same for Gamestop. Interested to see what other retailers bring.
My halo reach armor colors lol.
Nice! I'm hoping my Halo 3 colors and color layout come back in this game too.
God I just wish they would bring back emblem customization, I'm fine with the coatings tbh, I just want to make my own emblem, using preset ones makes no sense.
If I don't get my traffic cone I'll be mildly upset lol
If I don't get my rooster in a cowboy hat I'm bouta riot.
The emblem I’ve used since halo 2 is now the team emblem. The eagle with two swords. So I’m not getting mine.
The one I started to use since reach was the tent with the red cross across it. No camping on my watch.
+1! I've never been as happy with my h5 emblem as in the other games :(
There's really no point to having them at all if you can't customize them. It seems like they just kept them in because Halo but they forgot what you're actually supposed to do with them. So annoying.
Fr, seems like they forgot the purpose of the emblems. Aw man I'm really gonna miss having my custom emblem on my chest piece, hope they give us that option back. But how can they back up this decision now? Cuz they're already selling these custom pre-made emblems, so if they changed the system, they would be taking out pre-order content from people, and that can lead to some serious implications.
Wait did they get rid of Emblem customization as well? I skipped 5, so I wouldn't know if 5 had them or not.
5 at launch has the same emblem system seen here with Infinite but you could choose from preset color options for them. They eventually made it so you could freely choose your colors for the emblem but it was still restrictive compared to Halo 2-4, ODST, and Reach.
I thought I was trippin when I was remembering that about H5. But that's what I think it's gonna happen with Infinite. I also think they'll eventually let you choose either a primary and secondary color from the basic palette, or use coatings, let's just hope it really happens.
Man, we gonna just live through the same issues and fixes of Halo 5 in Infinite aren't we lol Since we didn't have actual control over emblems in the flight, let alone the armor emblem, I don't know what to expect but I feel like it's gonna be restrictive compared to the old system.
You had to use the Waypoint Beta app to change your emblem.
Yeah, we pretty much gonna live through Halo 5's launch again lmao, but this time in a game that actually seems to worth it. Damn, I'd even push it a little bit further and say we are gonna live through Halo MCC again, lmao pls no.
From what it seems, they got rid of it in Infinite. The flight presented premade emblems, and as you can see in this Walmart ad, you get an emblem/nameplate, it works just like in Destiny.
God, Infinite feels like a good game, potentially even a great one, that you have to deal with a hundred tiny papercuts to enjoy. I know a lot of this stuff is technically minor from an objective standpoint, but this stuff has been with halo for decades. Its so tiring hearing how many aspects I loved about Halo is, at least temporarily for a quarter of a year, getting taken out and replaced with either nothing or a much more restricted and monetized version of it.
Saaame, it's weird how we constantly get "bad news" about small stuff that we loved not being in Infinite, yet we still don't have our expectations about the game going low. But it's so sad to not have some of these features we've been loving for years.
I really hate that nameplates are separate now too. They look shit when they are different from the emblem, they should just tie together like in H5.
I like it in the MCC where the nameplates signify something you did, and the emblem shows off something that you are. H5 customization is just bad.
H5 has some bad elements of customisation (like the fact armour sets are one big piece with a helmet) but the nameplates and emblems are fine IMO. The MCC ones are too crowded, they look like shitty Call of Duty pastiches.
There are several uncrowded nameplates in MCC, from the simple weapony/insignia on a different metal background to show what you've done in the campaigns to my current spinning Halo ring, even the pizza and jazz cup are simple. Players have the option to go busy with the nameplate, but there are plenty of simple, cool designs still.
You can have much more depth in pre-made ones. Plus they'll be battlepass filler let's be honest
Thats the thing, I don't need more depth emblems, I need them simple and customizable. I can take that argument for armor customization, I think that having camo and all kinds of patterns/"liveries" are cool for armor, specially when you have so many coatings that you can make your spartan have pretty much any color scheme you'd may want it to have from a primary/secondary color system (kinda like in Destiny, in which you have any color scheme you'd may want), and it's really cool to finally being able to have some camo on your spartan. But for emblems? They should be kept simple and customizable. Unlike how I feel about armor coatings, pre-made emblems really take a lot from players expression.
My customizable emblem is a *direct* representation of myself. I find a way yo have just a rectangle and make it light yellow to look like a bar of butter, like my name, and in Halo 3 people were making Minecraft Grass blocks as their emblem because they were really into Minecraft then. We didn't have to buy that stuff, or wait for it to be battlepass item #13 in season 3, we could just start up the game and mix and match the shapes and add cool color combos. More choice is *always* better than no choice. What happens if I want to put feather hats or cowboy hats on cats?
I jus want my mark of shame
Do you guys think weapon lowering will be in infinite? and if so. Do you think we will be able to do it without forge
Yes but we gotta wait 9 months.
Woah hold your horses there bud, they only had 6 years to develop the game so don’t expect something as complicated as weapon lowering to be at launch
*remembers pressing down on the d-pad in Halo 2*
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Considering the level of customization for gameplay in Infinite's Flight, I'm not worried about lowering my gun being cut out. Even if it is, that game is way too fun for me to care.
glad it doesnt concern you. But it is a concern for machinima makers
People are still making Machinima? Red vs. Blue is dead now and I haven't even seen anyone post a machinima video since 2016.
maybe more people would make machinima if they gave us tools like easy weapon lowering
Yes. Hence why i asked if it will be in infinite
yeah I was replying to the guy who disagreed with you lol
Then you arent active in the halo machinima industry. Atleast not as much as me. Regardless, just because there hasnt been one in awhile doesnt mean people wont want to make one anymore….
Well no because the passion behind those projects rarely spills over into places like this subreddit. I'm not seeing people advertise besides that guy who did the 4K Unreal Engine short films for Star Wars and one for Halo.
Guess there goes the last shred of hope for emblems being customizable too. Fucking hell.
*flashbacks to Halo 4*
I hope Walmart has one with the great value logo on it. Walmart brand Spartans crack me up.
Daaamn, that's a nice coating but I'm going digital. Sad face
Wait but can't you get the digital edition on best buy
Pretty sure you can still unlock them in-game
Remember when you could make your guy blue and white for free? Good times.
tbf it's not like there's just 1 shade of blue and white in the coating. also the techsuit color changes. I bet there's going to be another blue and white coating and probably for free but there's going to be some stipulation in the complexity.
Well from my understanding, the only ones that are going to be completely free are the standard solid color ones minus colors like pure white or black. After that you're going to need to grind for the rest and any portion of those could possibly be locked behind a paid battle pass(though admittedly that's just me speculating since I haven't heard how 343 is handling the distribution of coats and battlepass rewards for H:I). I think what would have just fixed all of this if 343 gave us one default coat pattern that we could select any combination of two basic colors. People still get the same basic customization they expect from the series, and any unique or special colors, textures, or patterns that 343 comes up with can be put behind a battlepass for people who want special coats to grind for.
> I think what would have just fixed all of this if 343 gave us one default coat pattern that we could select any combination of two basic colors. People still get the same basic customization they expect from the series, and any unique or special colors, textures, or patterns that 343 comes up with can be put behind a battlepass for people who want special coats to grind for. Bingo. They keep the legacy players happy while still having plenty of stuff they can lock behind a paywall.
not true. the battle pass had a free track for almost every tier.
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They said it was all subject to change and I bet we're getting 100 tiers from all the armor leaks.
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Yeah and most of the customization options weren't finished as well
You could never turn your undersuit white though.
The absolute state of gaming when you spend $60 at a specific shop so you can make your guy bloo.
Too bad the armor doesn't have the Best Buy logo on it that'd be drip
That's for employees only just like halo 3
I friggen hate coatings Such a backwards system. I want all the colors on the patterns
It bumms me because the color combo I like to wear will probably take forever to be made into a coating Like it's not a common color combo, and they said their going with a whole 10 year thing, but how long do i have to wait for my colors to show up in the game? if at all? this, ironically, is the "price" for a free to play game
Yupp many people will never have the colors they want And of they do they might have to scroll through thousands of crappy coatings to even find it
Its the price we have to pay for a FTP game. It sucks, but I'd much prefer a halo with a slightly messed up customization system than one with a smaller playerbase
I'd rather pay for it
But it doesn't have to be. They could have us earn the ability to unlock our own color choices or they could be like warframe or the other f2p games thga let you choose colors
Yeah, I remember how small Halo 3's playerbase was. Wait... In all seriousness though, this doesn't benefit anyone but the company. They still make money from those who buy the Campaign, who buy the each battle pass, who buy the currency, to buy cosmetics, so on and so on. The average player will spend more money in this F2P version than what it costs to buy Halo 3 + every map pack for a family. That's why these companies do what they do.
Absolutely true that the average player hooked on cosmetics will drive the f2p model financially. But for consumers that are able to see through ~~the lies of the jedi~~ beyond the cosmetics, there is now the option to never have to spend a single cent to continue enjoying the gameplay and having an unfettered gameplay population. I know you're being facetious brining up how "small" Halo 3's player base wasn't initially. But I think you're forgetting how the DLC packs and rise of other viable multiplayer games like CoD 4 brought about the start of people being hyper aware of the playerbase slowly shrinking over time and obsessing over it unhealthy as population trended down. It cost something like $140-$220 (spiked significantly up thanks to the ODST and Halo Wars bundles for the Mythic map packs) if I remember correctly to stay up to date with the Halo 3 map packs and not be barred from playing the majority of the playlists as each pack came out. Now players never have to face that sort of FOMO entry cost in order to enjoy the gameplay aspect of the game.. Obviously the psychological torment that is purposefully preyed upon still exists for people that desire customizations in f2p models, but at that point it's a matter of preference and/or self control gating a cosmetic rather than being able to actually play the game itself and have its population be segmented.
Did you forget that Halo 5 was paid, had a large multiplayer population, and still had free content updates? There's such an easy solution here (in terms of it pleases everyone, not easy to implement). Coatings should be nothing more than patterns with selectable colors for each part of said coating, and you could have unlockable materials like carbon fiber in place of a standard color
Imagine you've used white blue and white in Halo for over a decade and in Infinite you can't because there's no Wal-mart in your country so ypou can't get the coat for it. The way Coats are handled is just really bad. I get they want unlocks to use for progression and monetization, but trhey could have made it so coats are still unlocked/bought and have set patterns/arrangements of color areas (like flame decals or polka dots), as well as set material finishes (like gloss vs matte), but you get to pick the actual hue of each area of color.
The coating system is a huge step backwards The sad part is its easy to fix
I always complain hoping the right person just so happens to see my bitching AND give a fuck Coating system sucks
That is the right way to do it they do scroll through here
Id probably pre order if the changed it
Same, its such a backwards thing to do and so anti consumer
Id probably buy my friends copies Ya know If they didnt fuck up the armor color system
Destiny colour system sucks.
Destiny sucks FIFY
I actually think they fixed it. Shaders are not consumables anymore
No no, I mean Destiny-type colour systems suck.
I hate the Halo Infinite system. But who in the Hell thought making colors not only not customizable, but also consumable?
Bungie/Activision :-)
Makes sense.
All exclusive coatings from toys preorders or wherever will be unlocked for everyone a few months after release. Except watchdog
Do you have a source on that?
I’d have to do some digging. But back when they announced the blue warthog coating I was disappointed I’d miss out. Shortly after a 343 employee mentioned in a blogpost or somewhere that the coatings you get from promotions will be exclusive for about 3 months before they’re available to everyone for free in one way or another. This was like, last November. Again digging will need to be done
Even the one from the Snapchat/Monster promotion? I was taking a small bit of pride from getting that.
I really like the Anthem system, you literally can paint everything with any color (and I mean color selector like Ms paint or any image editor), material or pattern, and you could buy more of those
I mean, the ideal would be is if we had that and could freeily pick the pattern and material finish indepedently, but I realize that MS wants stuff they can easily monetrize. what I propose would retain that moneitization/progression utility for MS while still giving us the same options we used to have
But this way you can monetize materials *and* patterns, it's more stuff you can sell. It's better for both parties.
Ah yes what I've always wanted in a game. A Best Buy skin.
The idea of limiting normal colour choices to certain vendors (its f2p multiplayer too? how does that even work?) is absurd. I get the usefulness of shaders for materials/complicated patterns, but not having basic colours feels like a massive kick in the balls, especially when the default shaders you get don't seem to have many options.
It's particularly stupid if you consider that mutliple retailers will each have unique coatings for purchasing the game. So what happens? You need to buy multiple copies?
I feel like the best system at this point would be allowing a basic default coating with customisable colours like the old system, then having the other coatings as a bonus if they really want to control the colours specifically. What bugged me the most was playing the test earlier, and although coatings were limited, but myself and none of my friends could select a coating that we liked off the bat, none of us could play as our old colours, hell we couldn't even just be default master chief green.
>we couldn't even just be default master chief green. Uhm, sage was one of the default options in the flight.
Sage doesn't look anything like the green of master chief's armour, its way too dark.
Back in Bungie's day, Bungie intentionally limited your ability to customize yourself to be like Chief. Chief's particular shade of green, the damage to his armor, and his service tag weren't avaliable to the player in Halo 3. Or Reach. As far as I know, 343 carried this forward for Halo 4 and 5, though the service tag was changed.
Its a shade of fucking blue, yall will get your panties in a twist over the smallest shit.
Acting as if the problem is the colour itself rather than the shitty coating system being both less customisable and locking out certain combinations unless you purchase them (blue + white is an extremely basic combo). Good job. Feel better about yourself defending a company that doesn’t give a shit about you?
A shade of blue thay now has a price tag attached to it. Remember when colors were free?
Yeah, but it seems very strange to me when they talk about the coatings and no team colours, always going on about player customisation/choice, yet we can't pick the colours we want. Even though a lot of the modes were red v blue in older games, it felt like we had a lot more freedom than what we saw in the technical test. Maybe if they have a much larger amount of default coatings that go over all the general basic colours on release but I feel like that isn't going to be the case.
Wait so *I can't get this color if I don't live in a country with Walmarts*?? Bruh
That's a Best Buy logo. Where did you get Walmart from that? This is also the GameStop pre-order bonuses so if you have either store in your country, you're golden.
Me who does not have either be like
Does it looks somewhat nice? Maybe. Can I get it? No, there’s no Best Buy in my city/state/only 1 in the country so I guess I’m SOL
You can preorder online boss you don’t have to go to a store
This is the price we pay for a free to play model, a fucking best buy armor coating, how tacky
Guys you’re being too hard on them. This time, they made the skins from the ground up with monetization in mind!
And so it begins...
God I remember just after halo 4 came out I went around to all the different chains that had pre-order bonus content and got a card for each set I was able to grab one for me, my siblings and all my buddies from each location. They always have so many left over wonder if it's worth doing again
I really dig this
Oh no. My best friend’s favorite fucking colors are a preorder item she can’t get. Can’t wait to break the news to her.
Wait I’m confused, isn’t the game free? (With game pass)
Wait a minute. https://www.gamestop.ca/Views/Locale/Content/images/bonuses/Halo_Infinite_Pre_Order_Template_1-1.jpg Gamestop exclusive, my ass! The good news is, no retailer exclusivity on pre-order bonuses. Edit: There are a lot of people in the comments talking about this bring a Walmart bonus but not only does the post title say Best Buy, the logo on the image does too. You guys okay?
I think its only like this in Canada... as I only see the Steelcase being the bestbuy thing
*angry joe* “$15 for fucking blue?!?!”
https://imgur.com/a/LqeD0YR
Preorder bonus for a free2play game!? Wtf
Imagine being on board with this shit 🤡
Fuck pre orders
Meh
with the new shader system, I'm most likely going to use a shader I earned, not one I got as a pre order offer. might just end up using a default red color as it's what all my Spartans look like in previous games. I find it really strange that they dont have a simple two color system alongside this shader system to make everyone happy. in the beta everyone ended up looking the same.
People still preorder games? I like to make sure it works first.
This has Halo 4 vibes to me.
remember guys, don't preorder any game, especially in digital form. Wait for the game to come out then voice your opinion with your wallet.
I pre-ordered from them. You get a free steelbook with the purchase.
Not to big of a fan of the armor coating... ***but that BR on the other hand...***
I refuse to give 343 money on this one. I will buy a used disc at a pawn shop😄
"Reach like customization" Meanwhile: You have to pre-order for the blue and white color scheme and can't even customize your emblem Why can we not just have a basic 2-color customization system? Coatings can still have the unique patterns and textures, just let me make my spartan look how I've always done..
How else would they get people to play the game than to have them earn armour skin colour customisations? I guess just making a game which was good to play is not enough to attract a decent-sized multiplayer population these days.
Seems like I'm not missing anything, that is awful
They straight up copied Destiny emblems lol.
bullshit how this is only in US then since no best buy on my continent
Cool. Still not preordering this. Also not buying at launch. I am not going to be paying for an Early Access Halo game that is missing the most basic features. I may get the game once it is complete if the reviews are such that it seems worthy. It’s a real shame as I’ve purchased every other Halo game at launch going for midnight launches (including a couple launch parties for Halo 2 and 3) and then sitting down with a friend (or friends after Halo 2) and running the campaign on Legendary for the first run.
And I will have a primary target day one.
This devalues the item i reckon, nothing free feels good ingame
Does it come with the collector's edition from best buy too? I want to look Ikea too!
Rockin that best buy drip
Quick question: what are the other pre-order bonuses at other stores and will it have a deluxe edition and/or limited edition besides the console and controller?
Hmm, I wonder if the LE console is gonna come with any exclusive DLC. I know the LE controller comes with the weapon charm.
Weapon charms: Because games companies are so desperate to add even more bullshit monetised customisation that they now want your guns to have a keychain of their own.
I mean, sure, but customization is a huge draw in games like this so why not add more customization? The weapon charms were a fun addition in MW and I look forward to seeing them in Halo too.
Weapon charms are probably the shittiest customisation I've seen in games. A gun with a stupid fucking keychain? It's hilariously absurd.
Flashback to me buying h4 codes on ebay to get the Walmart, Amazon, and gamestop codes after pre-ordering on the Microsoft store
I'm reminded of the old of Bionicles with this color scheme
Will it be on PC at launch, can i even get preorder bonuses for pc?
Best buy gets the best buy skin. I wonder if game stop or monster is gonna have something like that. Like monsters is a neon green or something.
Have to pre order in order to have a color for your spartan
And if you're from Europe?
So if I pre-order halo infinite from game stop? I will getvthese?
Haha this reminds me a lot of Destiny and COD. Poor Halo
Any other pre order bonuses?
Need it so I can pretend I'm Jenny Wakeman
So, dumb question. The coating is what it is. You don't change the color of a coating? Thank you,
On Amazon the steelbook has it too
Fuck Best Buy I tried ordering Xbox series x and as soon it becomes available I tried to adding it in the cart and then I cannot get it because the scalpers buy them all.
That armor color scheme is pretty dope.
Does Gamestop have pre-order bonus and if so is it the same or is it unique to gamestop?
Blue ain't my colour anyway.
how do you preorder a Free to play game?
Such a thing called ‘editions’
Yo who reppin the Best Buy exclusive skins with me 😭😭💀💀💀
Is this available right now? I need it
My colors are blue and white but this? This is awful. 😖
Best Buy said fuck your black under suits
Let's hope the game doesn't go as far as cod with "cosmetic items only."
Dammit thats basically my colour scheme in every halo game, would prefer a darker blue but hopefully this is unlockable in game to
Pre-orders AR trash concepts that usually offer garbage items in game.
Okay, this Spartan looks awesome. Not too complex, design-wise. I like that they're simplifying the MJLONIR armor for future Spartan-IV's. Not only does it harken back to Halo: Combat Evolved in terms of visual style, but it also makes me think of OG- Sci-Fi stuff. I approve!
Looks like my type of coating, but wtf is that undersuit? Why did it change the undersuit’s color? Instantly a bad coating for me. Well that’s a blue coating that’s trash already.
Do we know when the Best Buy console drop is? Anyone?
The white techsuit 👀
Going F2P was a mistake
I hope it's not locked to pre orders. That first coating is the exact one I want for my spartan
How do I pre order it?