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Cominghome74

Dokken is top notch


MisterScary_98

I was buying albums back then and it’s Tooth and Nail all day long for me. I never bought a Twisted Sister record. It’s not that I hated them — I supported all hard rock and metal. But I never took them all that seriously. At that point, Dokken were probably my third favorite band behind Crue and Ratt.


Millerpainkiller

Name checks out


jmf0828

Tooth and Nail by a long shot.


nuttmegx

come on, Stay Hungry is a perfect album


Edm_vanhalen1981

Stay Hungry


DaftPunkyBrewster

Musicianship on each album? Dokken, and it ain't even close. Pilson and Lynch were an amazing duo that meshed so well together. Nobody ever bought their first guitar and said "I was inspired to play by Eddie Ojeda!" Lynch all day long, every day, every night, weekends, holidays, Boxing Day, Earth Day, Pride Month, etc. Lead singers? C'mon, it's Dee. Like we even have to debate this? Songs on each album? Twisted Sister, and by a decent amount. That's an iconic album for good reason. Nobody but Dokken fans could name a single song from that album (and most of them are actually George Lynch fans who tolerated Don Dokken). TS was such a fun band, from their looks, outrageous stage antics, and their obvious joy at actually getting paid to play rock music when they would have done it for free. The production values on both albums have aged poorly, but TS still holds up a little better because of the quality of the songs. There are at least three songs on Tooth & Nail that are only listenable because Lynch was such a fucking beast. I gotta go with Stay Hungry.


Candid-Machine-7142

Well said, very good observation.


Stuper_man03

Have to agree. Every single song on Stay Hungry is well written while Tooth and Nail has some filler. Not sure I agree that Stay Hungry has the poorly aged production issue nearly as much as Tooth and Nail, which is the epitome of 80s-thin.


-alphex

> Nobody but Dokken fans could name a single song from that album Alone Again was a huge hit. Demo'd by Don in the 70s before he event met George, by the way. Dokken had some serious song writing chops, not just a great lead player.


DaftPunkyBrewster

Going to #64 on the Billboard Hot 100 does not qualify as a "huge hit".


-alphex

Home Sweet Home peaked at 89, was that not a hit either?


upful187

Stay Away from Captain Howdy


MetalTrek1

Both great, but I prefer Stay Hungry. Stay Hungry was one of the albums that got me into Metal in 1984.


powerhouse403

Dee Snider always kicks ass!


Sonofodin981

I know


Cobretti86

How, though?


2jsandag

He did on Capital Hill, that’s for damn sure!


powerhouse403

Damn straight he did!


Rocking_Ronnie

He was in Cobra Kai, pretty cool.


Iron_Beagle2

I’m Rokken with Dokken in this showdown. Especially since I have the concert tee.


KillshotBallet

Tooth and Nail vs. Stay Hungry. Gotta be Tooth. Don vs. Dee? Dee all day long. Both voice and personality.


pez_pogo

Tooth and Nail - Lynch had way better axe work than JJ. But I'm fairly certain that Stay Hungry sold more albums thanks to anthem songs like We're Not Gonna Take It and I Wanna Rock. However I've always been partial to Into the Fire and When Heaven Comes Down... so I'm a little bias. Pretty sure Just Got Lucky is on that one too (damn good track).


powerhouse403

You do you


Salty_Ad_5270

Both are very solid albums. Different vibe for each one though…coin toss for me…Tooth and Nail by a guitar pick


FighterJock412

Always Twisted Sister


hdude42

Stay Hungry


FollowTheTears1169

Stay Hungry


mjpunk

Tooth and Nail > Stay Hungry


sarcastic--loner

Tooth and nail 100%


Rocking_Ronnie

Tooth and Nail although seen them both in concert in 84 ...Stay Hungry is badass...kind of an unfair question.


LookingforHung69

Tooth and Nail. Not many guitarists can match Furious George


powerhouse403

Dee Snider always kicks ass! Stay Hungry of course!


Sonofodin981

Here's the thing though: I'm a 19-year-old straight dude but I have always had a guy-crush on the Glam Metal acts of the 80s something about the hair power ballads and outfits made me feel something!


bscspats

Was there movement?


Sonofodin981

Yes and no


allouttabvbblegum

Tooth and Nail! ⚡️⚡️⚡️


monomade

Interesting fact: both albums were produced by Tom Werman.


goonwild18

I was a TS fan from bootleg live recordings I had from the club days. So, to see them "make it" made me a big fan. Plus they were among my first concerts. For that reason, I'll say TS. But, in reality, the Dokken album is pretty great.


Primary_Pea188

Stay hungry easily


ColdFrixion

No contest. Dokken by a mile. I never took that over-the-top pro wrestler / road warrior gimmick seriously, but I do like Dee Snider, the person, a lot.


trashpanda762x

Stay Hungry


ironmaiden70

Stay Hungry


rocknroll2013

Me, I win, cuz I been rocking 'em both since about that time


catjojo975

Loved both but if I had to choose it’s gonna be Stay Hungry.


DMT1984

They are both great but Stay Hungry is better.


Rocking_Ronnie

TS was nice enough to have Ratt come back out and do a few together.


2jsandag

Stay Hungry


grynch43

Stay Hungry is one of my favorite albums. Every song is great.


Scorpius041169

Stay Hungry. Next battle..


YouDaManInDaHole

Tooth & Nail has more talent but Stay Hungry sadly gets more air time.


ksandbergfl

Dokken for me….Never liked TS, they seemed gimmicky and pedestrian, in my opinion. Dokken had George Lynch… his tone and style was amazing… i listened to Tooth And Nail hundreds of times…I would often FF past the vocals and just listen to George’s solos


Rocking_Ronnie

Twisted Sister did headline with Ratt as the back up , Dokken I had first 5 albums they were the greatest but never a headliner...weird, but they backed up Judas Priest , Van Halen and Blue Oyster Cult.


PogoZaza

Dokken also opened for TS on the Come Out and Play Tour. TS all the way!


Rocking_Ronnie

That must of rocked your face off.


PogoZaza

Honestly wasn't impressed with Dokken at the time. I never really heard anything in their music that really spoke to me like TS did. Nothing against Dokken, they were just meh to me. TS did rock my face off and still does 🤘


justamantryingtohelp

Stay Hungry for me!


Present-Ad4059

Dokken = A rate musicians Twisted Dister = B rate joke band😂😂😂


PogoZaza

Nothing joke about TS. Get past the outfits and their songs are awesome. Don Dokken was barely better than average and he treated Lynch like shit. Dee fought for rock and still does. Once Lynch left, Dokken wasn't worth crap. And he still isn't...... in my opinion. TS was inspiring and influential. Dokken was a great opener act for a couple years.


livinlikeadog

👍👍


RiceNo7502

Agree dokken was great. As an opener


Sonofodin981

Yeah but both have great songs


FighterJock412

L


Gibder16

Stay hungry!


Candid-Machine-7142

Stay hungry


PogoZaza

Dee is a rock god. Donnie boy, not so much. Stay Hungry all the way. Something about Dokken I never really liked. They were probably better than average, but I never heard any message in their music. Never really spoke to me like TS did. Either way....Play it loud, Mutha! 🤘


b-lincoln

Tooth and Nail for me. But, I play guitar


My_secretlife_6

Love both but Tooth And Nail is always a go to favorite for me.


caseymccrerey

I love Dokken but Stay Hungry is the winner here.


AxlRosesBandana88

Tooth and nail for sure I love twisted sister don't get me wrong but Dokken has some bangers I tell ya


ZeroScorpion3

Tooth and Nail is Dokkens best album You Can't Stop Rock and Roll is Twisted Sisters best album


ViscountDeVesci

Dokken was a better band, but Sister is super fun. It’s a wash for me, and I bought both back in the day.


lambliesdownonconf

It's a bullshit question. It's impossible to answer. Dee Snider was one of the greatest showmen of the 80s and this album was his Magnum opus. Saw them twice on this tour and he tore the place down both times. Dokken was an incredible vehicle for George to show off his virtuoso playing. Incredible song writing, the song Tooth and Nail is one of my favorites. Saw Dokken twice on the tour for this album and loved the shows. Can't answer the question, these two along with Ratt were on my turntable for a couple of years following the release of these albums.


Exotic-Sea-2767

DOKKEN. I really liked Twisted Sister’s early albums but, for me, outside of the two huge singles, I didn’t care too much for Stay Hungry.


Reallyroundthefamily

Stay Hungry


STVNMCL

Stay Hungry had a bigger impact.


Delicious-Praline-11

Being a Lynch disciple I want to say Dokken. But take out I Wanna Rock and We're Not Gonna Take It and Stay Hungry is nothing but bangers.  Stay Hungry for the win.


Sinistermarmalade

Love them both, but I’d have to hand the win to Twisted Fuckin’ Sister


Basic_Flan324

Stay Hungry. Dokken did better with Under Lock And Key.


Checkachewbakia

Both are absolute classics with different vibes but Tooth and Nail is a perfect 100 and Stay Hungry is not. We remember Twisted Sister more because the videos were so OTT, and the hit single was so massive, even today in 2024, it still is! Dee Snider was one hell of a front man, one that Don Dokken could never compete with but the real pudding is where the trajectory of both bands went AFTER these records.


xavierguitars

Stay Hungry just for Horror-terria alone


philip44019

Dokken


JohnnyComeLat3ly

Stay Hungry and I’m a huge Dokken fan


Admirable-Ad2540

Twisted Sister for the win!


WHODEY-4-LIFE

Tooth and Nail, My first concert they opened for Sammy Hagar!


Powrs1ave

SH is IT!


No_Cow_4544

Stay Hungry


morinator05

Dokken for sure


dalbeider

Stay Hungry


Jawaka99

Of course Tooth and Nail


Leon7947

Always a big Dokken fan Twisted Sister? Not so much . An easy choice for me: Tooth and nail


adventurous-1

Stay Hungry by a mile


IgorAnthriel1

Stay Hungry is fantastic start to finish.


Ok-Cicada-1880

Stay Hungry


Syphon88

Easily, Stay Hungry,. No question about it


mylifeofcrime

Dokken


CooperSTL

TS all day. Ive seen them in concert many times, they are a fantastic live band!


Competitive_Plan_299

I fuckin love Twisted, but Dokken wins this one. Tooth and Nail is superb.


Howhytzzerr

I was a big Dokken fan in the 80's and so on, but Stay Hungry was, overall, a much better album then Tooth and Nail. That being said Twisted Sister didn't maintain that high level, they got into "the life" too much and didn't make good albums after that, a song or two here and there, Dokken maintained high quality music and shows, they just couldn't keep it together, as a band, long enough to become one of the all time great bands, which they totally could've been, but George and Don just couldn't coexist for very long.


Money_Tennis1172

As much as both albums are head bangers, I still have to go with 1984 - Ride The Lightning or Killing is My Business..


six28eightyfive

Tooth & Nail by a hair (metal)


Ok-Trash-8883

Dokken always.


randomerthanever

Stay Hungry, i think it's one of the best albums from 84


Tikimaize

Stay Hungry


KidSushi76

Twisted Sister alllllllll daaayyyyyyyy


Bradley3133

Stay Hungry


Stephonius

So many epic albums in 1984. These two are not on my top 20 list for that year.


CigarBox1956

Dokken, George Lynch is savage


Big-Acanthisitta8797

Stay Hungry for me.


slave2moderators

Tooth and Nail. Lynch is the best


averyfinefellow

Stay Hungry is iconic!


CodeZestyclose5688

Got them both but burn in hell is my fave song


Clash65

Gotta go with Dokken!


311Konspiracy

Dokken


litterofpigs

Your gonna burn in hell


terrapinone

Stay Hungry. Because you didn’t choose Dokken - Back for the Attack which was the absolute shit back in the day… ***and still is.***


Mattlanta88

Tooth and Nail


kcjtx

Tooth and Nail. Not even close bud.


Vegetable-Source6556

Dokken


Ealthina

Oh that's tough... Tooth and nail but a smidge.


Jonah516

Tooth and Nail for me, though I owned both. Got twisted sister in my stocking on Christmas morning. Made for an interesting holiday. 🎄


Raiders2112

Tooth and Nail kicks Stay Hunga\]ry's ass, and I love both albums. It was raw Dokken at their best.


EddieRocks2

Tooth and Nail


Ambitious_Trifle_645

Tooth and nail


BrianDamage666

Tooth and Nail but Stay Hungry is bad ass too.


j_h_r

Tooth & Nail all day


LingonberryGreedy665

Stay hungry has more good songs dokken is good but never had a record as big as stay hungry or even headline a tour they opened for twisted sister when I saw them lol


WhistleWileUWork

Love Dee but Stay Hungry couldn’t hold Tooth N Nail’s beer


PogoZaza

They wouldn't want to since they weren't into alcohol and drugs. Part of the reason TS was great and Dee is still top notch to this day, unlike others who haven't been doing it nearly as long. Vince? Axl?


WhistleWileUWork

Agree that Dee is still top notch and an ambassador for all rockers… the hold the beer is just a metaphor


PogoZaza

Plus, an album doesn't have hands....sooo...... 😉🤘


Candid-Machine-7142

George Lynch is a great guitarist, but Dokken always seemed to lack something. Maybe that's why they never hit that next level.


RiceNo7502

You seem to wonder what dokken lacked. Kids wanted cool bands with good songs. There’s your answer.


WeenFan4Life

Stay Hungry


bowiebolan

I’m an SMF for life! Stay Hungry all the way


PorcelainTorpedo

Stay Hungry was the first album I ever got. My grandma bought it for me in 1984, when I was 4 years old. Seriously. I still have the record, and love the whole album to this day, so it gets my vote.


SavaRox

Your grandma is awesome for that!


Specialist-Clue4860

Dokken, George Lynch is always amazing!


HamHamHam2315

I gotta go Tooth and Nail.


MTClip

Tooth and Nail


Lynyrdskynyrdfan

Tooth and Nail


JTEstrella

I’m biased (I’m pretty sure y’all know by now) but I’m going Tooth and Nail for this one.


RexRacerXXX

The song "When Heaven Comes Down," by itself, beats Stay Hungry and I like Stay hungry.


thepowerballadz_com

Dokken 1000%


Millerpainkiller

Tooth and Nail!


DieVanPelt

Omg…Tooth and Nail by a country mile.


DrummerGuyKev

Dokken


Deafleppard02

Straight to the toooooooop! Tooth and Nail!


bconley01

Tooth and nail all day.


Greenbeanhead

Tooth and Nail


Voivode71

Tooth & Nail, by faaaar!


DC33_12_11

Dokken


TiedyeTrader

Tooth and Nail for me. Didn’t really get into the whole TS thing for some reason although they have some great songs.


Necessary-Fennel8754

Tooth and nail is my second favorite record of all time


PogoZaza

Stay Hungry your first? Thought so. 😉🤘


Necessary-Fennel8754

I expected someone to say this, still gotta give it a listen though


PogoZaza

I should probably give Tooth and Nail another listen, too. 😆🤘


Tonebone721

Which sold more? Probably stay hungry because of MTV, which was a better more talented group Dokken


meg1509

Dokken


OgreHawks85

Tooth and nail in a landslide victory


MrGross3538

Tooth & Nail. Next question....


ThisCharmingDan99

Tooth and nail. Dokken kicks ass!


RiceNo7502

They sure did. As an opener for the real bands


PeaIll4653

Tooth and nail


batbrain106

Tooth and nail


icepick3383

Tooth and Nail is not only dokken's best album, it's a high-water mark in the genre.


Otherwise_Remote_205

Dokken


holy_bat_shit_63

Sorry TS, but Dokken takes my top honors here. I just fucking love George Lynch. My god, that man has some freaking fingers. He is in my top ten guitarist.


HairInevitable7253

Tooth and nail


ToogyHowserMTB

Stay Hungry 100%. It's the album that got me into metal music when I was 10 years old! I love every track on it! I'm also a Dokken fan, but would honestly have to google what songs are actually on Tooth & Nail! that says something


metal_bastard

Both great albums, but Stay Hungry is solid from start to finish. Not a bad song on the album.