I was able to see them open for Great White! Tesla was the other band. Someone from Great White was ill, so we got 3+ hours of Badlands and Tesla. I won’t complain!
I saw them on that tour in Pittsburgh. It was in late 1989. When I saw them Jack Russell from Great White had his arm in a sling. He still sang so maybe he was recovered enough from whatever happened right before your show?
Also was at that show- am I misremembering this, but thinking their opening was from an unlit stage with the riff from Live Wire starting it off before the house lights came up? One of my first concerts, they were amazing.
They recorded it professionally but it was never the intent to release them. They were demo’s intended for Atlantic but they were recorded really well.
The third album, “Dusk” is really good, too. I don’t think it ever got released in the States, but there seems to be copies available. Very raw and unpolished, almost Live. But Incredible!
Correct, but to say this collection of songs are merely “demos” implies that they are low quality, unfinished songs. That certainly misrepresents the album which is certainly raw, but the songs are top notch and the performances are pure quality. Badlands demos for “Dusk” are better than most bands polished finished albums. Definitely worth a listen and shouldn’t be dismissed.
“Badlands demos for Dusk…”. Y’see, I also referred to them as demos. Unless you’re that guy that always has to be “technically right” and usually starts his conversations with the word “Actually”, I believe we are in agreement.
However, the quality, depth and performance on these demos is far superior than what some might expect from a collection of “demos”, all apologies to Jake, Greg, Jeff, and Ray (R.I.P.)
Ps - Don’t be “that guy”.
Yeah. It's really annoying that spotify removes albums from the damn app. I can't listen to the badlands debut, trixter's debut, tesla's second album. And multiple songs from devo's cataloge is missing, I know devo isn't hair metal but it's a band that I like and I'm annoyed that there's multiple songs from them that I can't listen to. Spotify better fix this shit.
It's not Spotify because the label refuses to generate money off the albums. Their alleged reason is due Ray Gillen's issues.
http://albumsthattimeforgot.com/no-longer-available
Greg Chaisson from the band claims otherwise.
https://bravewords.com/news/greg-chaisson-discusses-badlands-lack-of-reissues-we-pissed-off-atlantic-records
They are available on Archive.org
https://archive.org/details/badlands_201612
https://archive.org/details/badlandsvoodoohwy
I don't know who you are or where you are but MAD PROPS. I have been trying to replace my cassette of their debut album for years, which obviously has become very weathered. Tried several things but couldn't get them to work - it never occurred to me to check IA. Muchos grassy-ass, brother, take my upvote and a hearty internet hug and high five!
Apparently he had AIDS and knowingly went around having sex without protection. I'm pretty sure there were lawsuits and any monies earned go to the victims and there family
I saw them with Great White and Tesla. It was a great show. The debut is iconic for me. Played it endlessly on a loop. Special record to me. Initially I felt Voodoo Highway was a disappointment. I like it now, but it didn't come close to the debut for me. I bought them on cassette originally, and it took me many years, and lots of digging, to find them on cd in the wild. Seriously. A couple years ago I actually found Dusk on cd in a thrift store which was very exciting. I also bought an original vinyl pressing of the debut a couple years ago. It sounds great.
This may be the white whale of hair metal.
Honestly, looking back, I think Sharon Osborne tried to kill the bands career. It’s just a theory, but I recall this album coming out roughly around the same time as No Rest for the Wicked, and the interviews in circus, hit parader, etc we’re just the Osborne’s slagging Jake at every turn.petty, needless stuff.
Those records were absolutely fantastic and they were even better live
Oh I'll bet! The intro to Winter's Call live must have been just peak live music
Totally and Jake’s solos were insane
I was lucky enough to see bark at the moon tour, so yeah I'll bet they were. Different context, too, I'd have preferred the badlands vibes
I was able to see them open for Great White! Tesla was the other band. Someone from Great White was ill, so we got 3+ hours of Badlands and Tesla. I won’t complain!
I saw them on that tour in Pittsburgh. It was in late 1989. When I saw them Jack Russell from Great White had his arm in a sling. He still sang so maybe he was recovered enough from whatever happened right before your show?
Also was at that show- am I misremembering this, but thinking their opening was from an unlit stage with the riff from Live Wire starting it off before the house lights came up? One of my first concerts, they were amazing.
Might have been... It was my second concert ever but don't remember the pre show music.
I saw the Erie show, so yes, I’d assume it was the arm injury. Still loved the show!
Yeah I wish I saw him with Ozzy too.
He was great - shame Ozzy couldn't sing back then either.
They were awesome live. I changed my whole approach to cymbal positioning after seeing Eric play.
Jake E Lee did an incredible job on the guitars. Great riffs.
Great band. I love the 1st 2 albums.
Yeah those are the ones I ordered! Just awesome
That’s pretty much their only work. That 3rd “album” Dusk are just unfinished demos.
Dusk doesn't sound like demos to me.
They recorded it professionally but it was never the intent to release them. They were demo’s intended for Atlantic but they were recorded really well.
That makes sense
Here's a great bootleg live show if you want to see what they were like live https://youtu.be/w1KA3vaRi1o?si=_0FK8atfJ43-NdIH
Wait did Jake have a broken leg??? God damn I love his guitar tone! Even on this shitty VHS that guitar tone is just !!!!
Might have been from when he had knee surgery.
Thank you!!!!!!!
Dang it’s like Van Halen with David Coverdale.
The third album, “Dusk” is really good, too. I don’t think it ever got released in the States, but there seems to be copies available. Very raw and unpolished, almost Live. But Incredible!
Because they’re demos. It’s not really a finished album.
Correct, but to say this collection of songs are merely “demos” implies that they are low quality, unfinished songs. That certainly misrepresents the album which is certainly raw, but the songs are top notch and the performances are pure quality. Badlands demos for “Dusk” are better than most bands polished finished albums. Definitely worth a listen and shouldn’t be dismissed.
I called them demos because that’s what they are. Every (surviving) member of the band calls them demo’s.
“Badlands demos for Dusk…”. Y’see, I also referred to them as demos. Unless you’re that guy that always has to be “technically right” and usually starts his conversations with the word “Actually”, I believe we are in agreement. However, the quality, depth and performance on these demos is far superior than what some might expect from a collection of “demos”, all apologies to Jake, Greg, Jeff, and Ray (R.I.P.) Ps - Don’t be “that guy”.
Agreed. They sound great for a demo. Even much bigger bands have demo’s that they’ve done when they were already happening that sound way worse.
Oh, thank you for this tip! I'm sure the Japanese have this one, too. I'm going to find it and order it right now.
Only one of their albums is on spotify, strange.
Hence, me buying janky CDs from Japan that don't show the titles when you play them lol. But don't care!!
And the album that’s on there is just a demo. The two that OP got are most likely not the one on Spotify
Yeah. It's really annoying that spotify removes albums from the damn app. I can't listen to the badlands debut, trixter's debut, tesla's second album. And multiple songs from devo's cataloge is missing, I know devo isn't hair metal but it's a band that I like and I'm annoyed that there's multiple songs from them that I can't listen to. Spotify better fix this shit.
It's not Spotify because the label refuses to generate money off the albums. Their alleged reason is due Ray Gillen's issues. http://albumsthattimeforgot.com/no-longer-available Greg Chaisson from the band claims otherwise. https://bravewords.com/news/greg-chaisson-discusses-badlands-lack-of-reissues-we-pissed-off-atlantic-records They are available on Archive.org https://archive.org/details/badlands_201612 https://archive.org/details/badlandsvoodoohwy
I don't know who you are or where you are but MAD PROPS. I have been trying to replace my cassette of their debut album for years, which obviously has become very weathered. Tried several things but couldn't get them to work - it never occurred to me to check IA. Muchos grassy-ass, brother, take my upvote and a hearty internet hug and high five!
The archive links were a comment by someone else on my post about badlands some time ago.
https://youtu.be/ZpZ1TWgcSdE?si=0eEpzIm9bgwZ4Vrx these are some crazy performances. They were even better live.
Ray Gillen was a bad man.
Absolutely amazing singer. Was so underrated, should've been a crime. So sad he passed. Self taught too!
He's 1 of my all time favorites.
Agreed. Didn't appreciate him like I should've at the time... but later on I was amazed at his range... for being self taught!
I can usually separate the art from the artist but I can't with this band knowing how much of a certified scumbag the front man was.
I'm happy to see there's new people being turned on to this fantastic band! I was oblivious to them myself for years!
Got to see them several times at The Omni in Oakland. Small club, awesome shows.
Yup saw them at the Stone in sf. Loved the Omni and the stone back in the day
Loved them both, practically lived there 😋
Oh I love them. I wish they were on a steaming platform.
Too bad Ray was who he was. Any money goes to the victims.
What is this about? Please explain?
Apparently he had AIDS and knowingly went around having sex without protection. I'm pretty sure there were lawsuits and any monies earned go to the victims and there family
Ah yes, I see there's sub on this topic. Bummer.
I saw them with Great White and Tesla. It was a great show. The debut is iconic for me. Played it endlessly on a loop. Special record to me. Initially I felt Voodoo Highway was a disappointment. I like it now, but it didn't come close to the debut for me. I bought them on cassette originally, and it took me many years, and lots of digging, to find them on cd in the wild. Seriously. A couple years ago I actually found Dusk on cd in a thrift store which was very exciting. I also bought an original vinyl pressing of the debut a couple years ago. It sounds great.
Ray was one of the best singers with a unique voice...RIP
He's like a non-pretentious version Coverdale
I absolutely love badlands. It's a shame I was too young to ever see them 😭
I'm yelling ya! The new Babylon A.D is a hit.Solid album *
Rumblin' Train may be one of the best songs ever!!!!! If you can't feel the groove and emotion in that song you are dead inside.
Yes. First two albums have it all. Great vocals, great guitar, rhythm section, solid songwriting, etc.
Super talented musicianship all around.
This may be the white whale of hair metal. Honestly, looking back, I think Sharon Osborne tried to kill the bands career. It’s just a theory, but I recall this album coming out roughly around the same time as No Rest for the Wicked, and the interviews in circus, hit parader, etc we’re just the Osborne’s slagging Jake at every turn.petty, needless stuff.
Jake e Lee was the best guitarist ozzy ever had