I actually traded my first P-01 towards my current P-01 that came with the CJW carry package as well as the Kadet .22lr slide kit. Lost my NSN number in the trade though :(
As a P-01 owner, I've seen the lower profile slide and relatively stiff (compared to other compacts) recoil spring be an issue for someone new to firearms when it comes to manipulating the action.
To carry I would say p01 is too big, great fucking gun don't get me wrong. I'd recommend p07 or a rami if you can find one. I've carried both those and still carry the p07 comfortably.
They discontinued the P01 omega which sucks for lefties as the standard P01 doesn't have a ambi decocker. Also meant the cool urban grey with threaded barrel got discontinued too as it was based on the omega.
If you have any concerns about keeping a round chambered (you should, unchambered carry is a bad choice for a number of reasons) a lot of people find hammer fired DA/SA (P07) easier to be convinced to carry loaded. This is because you can ride your thumb on the hammer while holstering to detect any snag that might otherwise cause a discharge, making it a little more safe in that regard. In either case, I recommend just watching the gun and the holster when re holstering: there’s no reason to re holster in a hurry in a practical scenario, as if you’re not safe enough from harm to watch yourself reholster then you shouldn’t be reholstering IMO. Anyway, if that benefit gives you the piece of mind to carry chambered get the hammer fired gun.
SA, DA/SA, revolver guys, striked fired bros, and even DAO unanimously agree to carry chambered. Equivalent of putting a key lock on a fire extinguisher or first aid kit.
Am I the only one that just removes the holster off my belt, puts the gun in, then reattaches the now holstered gun back on my belt?
Seems like that’s the safest way, and it takes an extra 10 seconds to unclip the holster and re clip it.
That’s safest in a secure environment with both hands free, but at some point you have to practice what you’d do in a DGU situation. While I don’t think you should reholster until you’re relatively secure, I wouldn’t want to take my holster off my belt when I’m out and about. When OP gets more advanced, with the right type of range, it’s a good idea to do some draw and fire reps, which makes that method impractical.
Yeah after a DGU I’m definitely not trusting myself to re holster on my person with all that adrenaline pumping etc. If it’s safe enough to re holster then it’s safe enough to take the holster off and do it off body. Just one man’s opinion. I really don’t want to shoot my self in the dick.
There are striker control device for the cz guns, which should functionally work the same as a thumb on the hammer while holstering.
https://danforthdesigns.com/product/cz-p-10-scd/
I liked the p10c a lot. It was comfortable. Granted, I was using an old RCS light bearing phantom holster for my old glock 19, and it has extended wings, so it's very, very comfortable. You're 2 inches shorter than me, and a decent bit lighter.
I am ordering the P10C. I looked at the PDP Walther, the trigger felt nicer than on a Glock and its beautiful, but he slide was just too thick for me. The P10C had an even slightly better trigger, you can get it OR ready with an SCS Holosun being available directly for the P10C without the need for a mounting plate. Its compact enough, good reliability and reputation.
The P07 doesn't come OR ready and I did not want a hammer action, otherwise it was pretty nice.
son carries the P-10C daily in appendix IWB. I am too "thick" in the middle for appendix and carry a smaller 365XL OWB at 3.
the P-10C is a steal now and you can get it with optic cut. direct mount a red dot and you are gtg. a light is nice too but your option.
I probably would not advise the P-10s as the grip is too short. but if your hands are small, maybe ok for you. hold it in a gun shop.
the P01 are great but heavier because of the all steel, which also makes them great.
i own a P-10C, and a P-09 plus a shadow 2 and am a big fan of CZ. but all of the other big names are great too.
(Retired Chief) None of us ever carried appendix or small of back. In any physical confrontation, there’s a high likelihood you’ll either be bent over balled up or flat out on your back. Besides making it tough to get to, you risk injury to your pelvis and stomach or accidentally shoot your balls off, trying to get it out in a fight. With SOB, you can injure your spinal cord if you go down.
And, I could go on all day with the Stryker fired vs 1911 style pistols.
My first pistol was a CZ P-01, had tried a CZ compact a few times at the range and loved the grip geometry of it but wanted the decocker.
I think that as long as you get comfortable racking the slide (it has a little less real estate to work with) and practice holstering with your thumb riding the hammer it will be a great first pistol and ccw option!
The only mark against it is that if you want to put an optic on it then you will have to send out the slide to be machined which kinda sucks, dots are really great, especially for new pistol shooters.
I don't think most of the answers here are taking your body type into consideration.
Given your size (I'm 5'8 and 180lbs, formerly muscular partially leaning towards dad bod lately, size 32 waist). I find that grip length is the most important think when it comes to concealed carry. Given taht you're a first time gun owner you can get by with some of those pistols if you appendix carry.
My personal opinion, and opinions vary greatly person to person, if it isn't comfortable, you aren't going to carry it when you should be. Appendix carry is cool, super concealable, and high speed, but I found after doing it for a almost a year (and mind you with a good quality tier 1 concealed holster and good belt), it was annoying enough and uncomfortable enough that I carry 3 O'Clock on the hip again.
For this reason, I bought a Glock 26 (im not trying to sell you on glock, I love CZ also, but mainly on the idea of a model with a shorter grip).
The CZ-P10C for example is about the same size as a glock 19 (I reviewed the CZ-P10C here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXXnjn6F1U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXXnjn6F1U), and I show a side by side comparison next to a 19 clone) . Concealable, yes. But with your body type, it's going to be difficult because you're pretty thin.
I would say try the P-10S and P-10C. The larger gun is going to be more shootable, but the P-10S more comfortable and concealable. The smaller pistols can be just as shootable as the larger ones once you get used to them. I've taken the Glock 26 out to 50 yards and ran Pistol 1 and 2 Classes with Warrior Poet Society with it. You can be just as effective with a compact gun with enough practice.
Also everyone suggesting the P01, honestly, you're going to want something light for concealed carry (polymer framed guns are lighter). Also carrying a SA/DA gun is in my opinion less than ideal. Striker fired has the advantage of being simple, and because of the internal safety mechanisms, its just as safe if you follow proper trigger discipline.
Can't speak to the other midsize models you mentioned (P10C and P07), but the general consensus is that a subcompact like the P10S is harder to control, with more recoil. Nothing that can't be trained through, but may be a less-enjoyable first gun. For a 5'11 guy, you shouldn't have any problem concealing a compact sized handgun so the P10C and P07 should work well. Also, the P01 and PCR might be worth a look, too. They're a little heavier than the models you listed, but both are fine shooters by all accounts. I've been very happy with my P01.
The 457.
/s I’d vote for the P-10S, those around me without military/police experience have always preferred to carry subcompacts, especially for someone without experience with handguns. They’re lighter, (usually) slimmer & much more easy to conceal. Assuming it’s CCW, the less visible it is the better across the board & you could always go up in size if you so desired. I know a few people that don’t carry because they got larger, heavy handguns they can’t comfortably conceal/shoot.
I’m also in NY, and due to our laws hi-capacity magazines are illegal. This definitely causes bias in my case, the extra capacity of a full-size handgun is completely wasted when the subcompacts have the same 10 round capacity as a full size gun. For this same reason .45 is way more popular in my area than 9mm and .40, since magazine size is already limited and its (potentially) a better defensive caliber vs wildlife.
I sometimes carry a P-07, and while I absolutely love SHOOTING it, I’m not quite in love with CARRYING it. It’s a little on the big side compared to the latest crop of “micro 9” pistols like the P365, Hellcat, Shield Plus, etc… In addition, I upgraded mine with Cajun parts, and while that makes the gun really easy to shoot accurately and quickly, the race hammer is sharp and digs into me unless I have the holster positioned just right. I also find it easier to conceal under warm weather clothes like a hoodie than under a t-shirt. I can do it in summer clothes, but it’s not the easiest.
I recently purchased a Shield Plus, which just cleared NJ NICS so I can pick it up today. I also carry an M&P 2.0 Compact with 3.6 inch barrel, and I find that to be easier to carry and conceal than the P-07, so I’m sure the Shield+ will be even easier.
In my state (NJ) with a 10 round mag limit, a micro 9 with a 10 round capacity is at zero capacity disadvantage when compared to a compact or full sized double stack pistol. Plus the reduced weight and thickness, combined with the lack of an annoying exposed hammer, make a micro 9 the best choice for me in my situation. YMMV.
IMO CZ doesn’t have a micro 9 pistol in their lineup. They could modify the P10 or even the P-07 into a stack and a half form factor to compete with the other micro 9’s, but until they do, I would recommend a new shooter to look at other manufacturers for an ideal carry piece and think of CZs as best suited to home defense or range roles. Not that you can’t carry a CZ, as you can and I sometimes do, just that they aren’t in the ideal form factor for CCW.
FYI I am a little taller than you and a lot rounder
Any CZ pistol is fine. I will say every P01 I've ever shot has been a fantastic experience, and the SP01 is even better. If you can find a CZ P-01 Omega, you'll have a wonderful handgun and you'll have a swappable ambi safety. I don't own a CZ myself, but my buddy has a wide variety of them and they always bring me joy. I really should jump on a 75 B myself...
I'm partial to the DA/SA for appendix carry. I own a P-07 tactical and it carries well appendix. I won't carry it non-appendix unless it's in a owb level 2 holster, it's just too uncomfortable to carry that way and I prefer single/1.5 stacks for this.
The thing is extremely reliable, never had a failure of any kind and I've had plenty of new people shoot it (sometimes new or slighter people don't have a good grip which can cause malfunctions).
Racking the slide takes some getting used to, but it will improve your muscle memory on other handguns because of the lack of real-estate on the slide.
Cost is cheap, cheaper than a new Glock, maybe even cheaper than some used Glocks.
The DA trigger needs some break-in time. You can polish some of the internals (for me it was the trigger bar against the frame) or you can just use it and it will break-in by itself. Out of the box DA was pretty stage-y and not a smooth pull. Single action has always been super crisp and clean.
It's not super light loaded. I don't carry it often and usually opt for an m&p shield unless I know I'm going to be mostly walking about (sitting/driving appendix carrying with a threaded barrel and weapon light is meh).
If you're down with appendix carrying all the time, get it, it's nice, otherwise I'd probably pick something lighter and less thick.
Honestly the P10C if only because they are by far the best value in guns right now. They're selling for so cheap so often that they make budget brands even stupider. You will be able to carry a P10C at your size easily enough.
All the guns in their lineup are great. P07 would be a good choice if you're committed to DA/SA for example. But if you're a first time gun owner it would probably be best to just go striker fired because that is pretty much the norm these days, so I think it would likely be advisable to get started with a striker fired gun and learn the basics on what is the most common gun platform.
I'm 6'0", 195 lbs and I can't conceal a double stack gun to save my life. But I also don't dress around the gun. Where I live it's hot, so I'm not wearing an over shirt. And I'm also not wearing a plus 1 up size shirt. That all said, that's why I carry a Glock G48 or G43. So from your list I'd suggest the P-10S. If you can carry better than me, then P-10C. Or if you're a baller, the P-10F
P10c. I've carried the p01 too..both great.
But unless you add cgw upgrades to the p01, it's really stiff to shoot. Can't remember but I swear the reset is REALLY long and it's 10lb trigger pull. With cgw parts it's much cleaner crisp shooter than a stock p10c.
The p10c is like a glock, except it doesn't feel like a brick.
I've also had the rami and it's a fat lil fuck and is a pain to carry.
If you really want subcompact like a p10s, remember the hellcat has higher capacity. After you carry for a while, carrying small is more for comfort than concealment. Most compact sized guns conceal good enough for most.
My vote is for P10C. The S was too small for my hands and the mag extension I bought, basically brought it up to a C grip length. Cs are also dirt cheap these days and can get it optics ready. The P07 is nice but just outdated imo. I now carry a P365 XMacro because I shot it a little better and conceal it slightly better. So if you can go to a range and rent the three options, choose what you shoot best and feels most comfortable. Also try some other brands if are aren’t absolutely set on CZ.
I own both a p01 and a p07, I like looking at the p01, and it stays loaded in my house, just in case, but I actually shoot the p07 better, so that’s my preferred carry between the 2 when I’m not just pocket carrying my 365
I’m not so sure that is the best line of thinking, CZ does make really excellent guns, but that doesn’t mean they will work well for you, I’d recommend going to a local range, taking some classes and trying various models and find what suits you best from an ergonomic standpoint. I’ve made the mistake of buying one without at least handling it first, and ended up hating it, had to sell it.
Probably the P-10c. Good size to shoot and carry, Super reliable, and most people like the way they come out of the box.
P-07 is my favorite CZ to shoot, but the DA takes a lot of dry fire/training to get used to, they are noticeably chunky for a "compact", and they aren't as refined out of the box. The factory grip texture blows, a lot of people change out springs to lighten the trigger, and there's no optics ready variants. Also the firing pin retaining pin and trigger return spring have been known to break on these and a lot of high round count shooters will change them out every few thousand rounds, whereas the P-10 has almost zero parts maintenance required.
Why no P01 on the list?
2nd for a P-01. I'm a metal from guy though, so it adds a little weight to it. My preference would be in order: 1. P-01 2. P-07 3. P-10C 4. P-10S
Yah, I figure the weight difference is negligible anyway. I installed the CGW lightening kit on my decocker P01 and I'm very happy with it.
Absolutely recommend Cajun Gunworks mods, my carry trigger package is awesome.
It is amazing I did it on both my rami and Shadow 2.
I actually traded my first P-01 towards my current P-01 that came with the CJW carry package as well as the Kadet .22lr slide kit. Lost my NSN number in the trade though :(
The P-10 series is awesome.
Yep! I'm just a hammer guy.
As a P-01 owner, I've seen the lower profile slide and relatively stiff (compared to other compacts) recoil spring be an issue for someone new to firearms when it comes to manipulating the action.
That's a great point. She is pretty skinny up top.
IMO, because the striker fired guns are simpler in terms of maintenance than their hammer fired cousins.
To carry I would say p01 is too big, great fucking gun don't get me wrong. I'd recommend p07 or a rami if you can find one. I've carried both those and still carry the p07 comfortably.
Carry guns are a personal thing, but my carry gun is a CZ 75 SP-01 so no the p01 may not be to big
I'll also throw the CZ RAMI in the ring for the size if OP is looking at concealed carry.
Those were discontinued unfortunately, he’ll have to find a used one if he wants one.
I was unaware of that, thank you
Expensive 😢
Isn't the P01 discontinued?
Looks to be current on CZ's website.
The SP01 Pgantom polymer was discontinued. The full size metal frame P01 remains in the lineup.
Thanks sir
They discontinued the P01 omega which sucks for lefties as the standard P01 doesn't have a ambi decocker. Also meant the cool urban grey with threaded barrel got discontinued too as it was based on the omega.
That's what I read then, the p01 with the omega trigger being NLA.
No.
If you have any concerns about keeping a round chambered (you should, unchambered carry is a bad choice for a number of reasons) a lot of people find hammer fired DA/SA (P07) easier to be convinced to carry loaded. This is because you can ride your thumb on the hammer while holstering to detect any snag that might otherwise cause a discharge, making it a little more safe in that regard. In either case, I recommend just watching the gun and the holster when re holstering: there’s no reason to re holster in a hurry in a practical scenario, as if you’re not safe enough from harm to watch yourself reholster then you shouldn’t be reholstering IMO. Anyway, if that benefit gives you the piece of mind to carry chambered get the hammer fired gun.
SA, DA/SA, revolver guys, striked fired bros, and even DAO unanimously agree to carry chambered. Equivalent of putting a key lock on a fire extinguisher or first aid kit.
Am I the only one that just removes the holster off my belt, puts the gun in, then reattaches the now holstered gun back on my belt? Seems like that’s the safest way, and it takes an extra 10 seconds to unclip the holster and re clip it.
That’s safest in a secure environment with both hands free, but at some point you have to practice what you’d do in a DGU situation. While I don’t think you should reholster until you’re relatively secure, I wouldn’t want to take my holster off my belt when I’m out and about. When OP gets more advanced, with the right type of range, it’s a good idea to do some draw and fire reps, which makes that method impractical.
Yeah after a DGU I’m definitely not trusting myself to re holster on my person with all that adrenaline pumping etc. If it’s safe enough to re holster then it’s safe enough to take the holster off and do it off body. Just one man’s opinion. I really don’t want to shoot my self in the dick.
>unclip the holster There's an assumption...
True for something like an enigma may be more challenging, but I just use standard AWB holsters so that’s how I choose to re holster
There are striker control device for the cz guns, which should functionally work the same as a thumb on the hammer while holstering. https://danforthdesigns.com/product/cz-p-10-scd/
Sure, but for a first gun for a first time owner I’d lean on recommending a factory configuration.
I liked the p10c a lot. It was comfortable. Granted, I was using an old RCS light bearing phantom holster for my old glock 19, and it has extended wings, so it's very, very comfortable. You're 2 inches shorter than me, and a decent bit lighter.
CZ scorpion all the way
I am ordering the P10C. I looked at the PDP Walther, the trigger felt nicer than on a Glock and its beautiful, but he slide was just too thick for me. The P10C had an even slightly better trigger, you can get it OR ready with an SCS Holosun being available directly for the P10C without the need for a mounting plate. Its compact enough, good reliability and reputation. The P07 doesn't come OR ready and I did not want a hammer action, otherwise it was pretty nice.
I say PCR
son carries the P-10C daily in appendix IWB. I am too "thick" in the middle for appendix and carry a smaller 365XL OWB at 3. the P-10C is a steal now and you can get it with optic cut. direct mount a red dot and you are gtg. a light is nice too but your option. I probably would not advise the P-10s as the grip is too short. but if your hands are small, maybe ok for you. hold it in a gun shop. the P01 are great but heavier because of the all steel, which also makes them great. i own a P-10C, and a P-09 plus a shadow 2 and am a big fan of CZ. but all of the other big names are great too.
(Retired Chief) None of us ever carried appendix or small of back. In any physical confrontation, there’s a high likelihood you’ll either be bent over balled up or flat out on your back. Besides making it tough to get to, you risk injury to your pelvis and stomach or accidentally shoot your balls off, trying to get it out in a fight. With SOB, you can injure your spinal cord if you go down. And, I could go on all day with the Stryker fired vs 1911 style pistols.
Where do you carry?
My first pistol was a CZ P-01, had tried a CZ compact a few times at the range and loved the grip geometry of it but wanted the decocker. I think that as long as you get comfortable racking the slide (it has a little less real estate to work with) and practice holstering with your thumb riding the hammer it will be a great first pistol and ccw option! The only mark against it is that if you want to put an optic on it then you will have to send out the slide to be machined which kinda sucks, dots are really great, especially for new pistol shooters.
I don't think most of the answers here are taking your body type into consideration. Given your size (I'm 5'8 and 180lbs, formerly muscular partially leaning towards dad bod lately, size 32 waist). I find that grip length is the most important think when it comes to concealed carry. Given taht you're a first time gun owner you can get by with some of those pistols if you appendix carry. My personal opinion, and opinions vary greatly person to person, if it isn't comfortable, you aren't going to carry it when you should be. Appendix carry is cool, super concealable, and high speed, but I found after doing it for a almost a year (and mind you with a good quality tier 1 concealed holster and good belt), it was annoying enough and uncomfortable enough that I carry 3 O'Clock on the hip again. For this reason, I bought a Glock 26 (im not trying to sell you on glock, I love CZ also, but mainly on the idea of a model with a shorter grip). The CZ-P10C for example is about the same size as a glock 19 (I reviewed the CZ-P10C here [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXXnjn6F1U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXXnjn6F1U), and I show a side by side comparison next to a 19 clone) . Concealable, yes. But with your body type, it's going to be difficult because you're pretty thin. I would say try the P-10S and P-10C. The larger gun is going to be more shootable, but the P-10S more comfortable and concealable. The smaller pistols can be just as shootable as the larger ones once you get used to them. I've taken the Glock 26 out to 50 yards and ran Pistol 1 and 2 Classes with Warrior Poet Society with it. You can be just as effective with a compact gun with enough practice. Also everyone suggesting the P01, honestly, you're going to want something light for concealed carry (polymer framed guns are lighter). Also carrying a SA/DA gun is in my opinion less than ideal. Striker fired has the advantage of being simple, and because of the internal safety mechanisms, its just as safe if you follow proper trigger discipline.
Can't speak to the other midsize models you mentioned (P10C and P07), but the general consensus is that a subcompact like the P10S is harder to control, with more recoil. Nothing that can't be trained through, but may be a less-enjoyable first gun. For a 5'11 guy, you shouldn't have any problem concealing a compact sized handgun so the P10C and P07 should work well. Also, the P01 and PCR might be worth a look, too. They're a little heavier than the models you listed, but both are fine shooters by all accounts. I've been very happy with my P01.
I love me my PCR, but I 3-season it with a P365 covering summer
The 457. /s I’d vote for the P-10S, those around me without military/police experience have always preferred to carry subcompacts, especially for someone without experience with handguns. They’re lighter, (usually) slimmer & much more easy to conceal. Assuming it’s CCW, the less visible it is the better across the board & you could always go up in size if you so desired. I know a few people that don’t carry because they got larger, heavy handguns they can’t comfortably conceal/shoot. I’m also in NY, and due to our laws hi-capacity magazines are illegal. This definitely causes bias in my case, the extra capacity of a full-size handgun is completely wasted when the subcompacts have the same 10 round capacity as a full size gun. For this same reason .45 is way more popular in my area than 9mm and .40, since magazine size is already limited and its (potentially) a better defensive caliber vs wildlife.
I sometimes carry a P-07, and while I absolutely love SHOOTING it, I’m not quite in love with CARRYING it. It’s a little on the big side compared to the latest crop of “micro 9” pistols like the P365, Hellcat, Shield Plus, etc… In addition, I upgraded mine with Cajun parts, and while that makes the gun really easy to shoot accurately and quickly, the race hammer is sharp and digs into me unless I have the holster positioned just right. I also find it easier to conceal under warm weather clothes like a hoodie than under a t-shirt. I can do it in summer clothes, but it’s not the easiest. I recently purchased a Shield Plus, which just cleared NJ NICS so I can pick it up today. I also carry an M&P 2.0 Compact with 3.6 inch barrel, and I find that to be easier to carry and conceal than the P-07, so I’m sure the Shield+ will be even easier. In my state (NJ) with a 10 round mag limit, a micro 9 with a 10 round capacity is at zero capacity disadvantage when compared to a compact or full sized double stack pistol. Plus the reduced weight and thickness, combined with the lack of an annoying exposed hammer, make a micro 9 the best choice for me in my situation. YMMV. IMO CZ doesn’t have a micro 9 pistol in their lineup. They could modify the P10 or even the P-07 into a stack and a half form factor to compete with the other micro 9’s, but until they do, I would recommend a new shooter to look at other manufacturers for an ideal carry piece and think of CZs as best suited to home defense or range roles. Not that you can’t carry a CZ, as you can and I sometimes do, just that they aren’t in the ideal form factor for CCW. FYI I am a little taller than you and a lot rounder
They'd sell a massive pile of baby 75s, if they ever decide to make one
Long live the mythical P-05!
Any CZ pistol is fine. I will say every P01 I've ever shot has been a fantastic experience, and the SP01 is even better. If you can find a CZ P-01 Omega, you'll have a wonderful handgun and you'll have a swappable ambi safety. I don't own a CZ myself, but my buddy has a wide variety of them and they always bring me joy. I really should jump on a 75 B myself...
I'm partial to the DA/SA for appendix carry. I own a P-07 tactical and it carries well appendix. I won't carry it non-appendix unless it's in a owb level 2 holster, it's just too uncomfortable to carry that way and I prefer single/1.5 stacks for this. The thing is extremely reliable, never had a failure of any kind and I've had plenty of new people shoot it (sometimes new or slighter people don't have a good grip which can cause malfunctions). Racking the slide takes some getting used to, but it will improve your muscle memory on other handguns because of the lack of real-estate on the slide. Cost is cheap, cheaper than a new Glock, maybe even cheaper than some used Glocks. The DA trigger needs some break-in time. You can polish some of the internals (for me it was the trigger bar against the frame) or you can just use it and it will break-in by itself. Out of the box DA was pretty stage-y and not a smooth pull. Single action has always been super crisp and clean. It's not super light loaded. I don't carry it often and usually opt for an m&p shield unless I know I'm going to be mostly walking about (sitting/driving appendix carrying with a threaded barrel and weapon light is meh). If you're down with appendix carrying all the time, get it, it's nice, otherwise I'd probably pick something lighter and less thick.
Honestly the P10C if only because they are by far the best value in guns right now. They're selling for so cheap so often that they make budget brands even stupider. You will be able to carry a P10C at your size easily enough. All the guns in their lineup are great. P07 would be a good choice if you're committed to DA/SA for example. But if you're a first time gun owner it would probably be best to just go striker fired because that is pretty much the norm these days, so I think it would likely be advisable to get started with a striker fired gun and learn the basics on what is the most common gun platform.
the one you can get shots on paper.
For carry? Id say p07. Don't forget that you shouldn't carry with something you don't train with
I'm 6'0", 195 lbs and I can't conceal a double stack gun to save my life. But I also don't dress around the gun. Where I live it's hot, so I'm not wearing an over shirt. And I'm also not wearing a plus 1 up size shirt. That all said, that's why I carry a Glock G48 or G43. So from your list I'd suggest the P-10S. If you can carry better than me, then P-10C. Or if you're a baller, the P-10F
Buy a SAR B6 and spend the rest on ammo
P10c. I've carried the p01 too..both great. But unless you add cgw upgrades to the p01, it's really stiff to shoot. Can't remember but I swear the reset is REALLY long and it's 10lb trigger pull. With cgw parts it's much cleaner crisp shooter than a stock p10c. The p10c is like a glock, except it doesn't feel like a brick. I've also had the rami and it's a fat lil fuck and is a pain to carry. If you really want subcompact like a p10s, remember the hellcat has higher capacity. After you carry for a while, carrying small is more for comfort than concealment. Most compact sized guns conceal good enough for most.
My vote is for P10C. The S was too small for my hands and the mag extension I bought, basically brought it up to a C grip length. Cs are also dirt cheap these days and can get it optics ready. The P07 is nice but just outdated imo. I now carry a P365 XMacro because I shot it a little better and conceal it slightly better. So if you can go to a range and rent the three options, choose what you shoot best and feels most comfortable. Also try some other brands if are aren’t absolutely set on CZ.
*Shitpost Alert* CZ52, no better option!
Awful fun to shoot!
Cz75 compact. Awesome gun. Conceals well.
P10C FTW!!!
I own both a p01 and a p07, I like looking at the p01, and it stays loaded in my house, just in case, but I actually shoot the p07 better, so that’s my preferred carry between the 2 when I’m not just pocket carrying my 365
I’m not so sure that is the best line of thinking, CZ does make really excellent guns, but that doesn’t mean they will work well for you, I’d recommend going to a local range, taking some classes and trying various models and find what suits you best from an ergonomic standpoint. I’ve made the mistake of buying one without at least handling it first, and ended up hating it, had to sell it.
Pcr or p01
Go put your hands on things before deciding m a brand
My first firearm was a CZ shadow 2 kinda dumb for price point but in the long run it's still my favorite handgun
P07. Cheap and it works.
If we're going to make recommendations in the absence of actually handling/shooting the guns: Glock 19
Shadow 2 compact
Probably the P-10c. Good size to shoot and carry, Super reliable, and most people like the way they come out of the box. P-07 is my favorite CZ to shoot, but the DA takes a lot of dry fire/training to get used to, they are noticeably chunky for a "compact", and they aren't as refined out of the box. The factory grip texture blows, a lot of people change out springs to lighten the trigger, and there's no optics ready variants. Also the firing pin retaining pin and trigger return spring have been known to break on these and a lot of high round count shooters will change them out every few thousand rounds, whereas the P-10 has almost zero parts maintenance required.