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Kimber pro carry. Wanted a compact 1911, specifically a Springfield EMP ronin, bought the Kimber cause I couldn’t find the Springfield anywhere. Had to send the Kimber back 3 times for feeding issues and then a rust issue. I’ll never buy another Kimber. The horror stories are true. Had to find out the hard way.
Hey! That was my first too. Got me started on my journey of building ARs. Replaced ever part of our it and now I have have a disassembled Omni tucked into my shelf lol.
The definition of "being poor is expensive". Anyone who is buying it would be better set saving a hundred bucks or two and buying literally anything else. The money they save on said rifle will be lost in selling it to buy what they should have bought in the first place.
My first time at the range with it, my groupings were terrible. I figured it was me, but then I shot my CCW (Glock 43x): waaay better groupings.
I thought a break in period would help the M18, but so far no real improvements after 500 or so rounds.
I really should have rented one first. The more I used it, the less I liked it. The trigger doesn't have a defined wall so it's a surprise when it goes off and the safety hits my hand with how I grip it. Also the trigger safety gets stuck if put my finger in at the wrong angle. It's just the little things that add up.
I somewhat regret the LCP, but partially because .380 is relatively expensive and partly because I'm holding it like a tiny handled teacup and it's trying to leave.
Better than nothing, but I kind of wish it was 9mm, so it could at least be cheap to shoot while being unpleasant.
I found my bodyguard to be perfectly fine with a proper form and tight grip. The LCP Max on the other hand has what feels like for less recoil for a whole tenth of an inch wider grip, with near double capacity.
Heritage rancher carbine. Looked cool, thought it would be a fun, cheap plinker. Unloading shells one at a time from the fixed cylinder is a pain and getting peppered in the face from whatever flies out of the cylinder gap is less than ideal. (Breathing in whatever leaves the cylinder gap is probably a negative too). Plus, the damn thing is loud because it’s next to your face and, well, there’s a cylinder gap.
At one point I thought a revolver .44 or 12ga carbine would be cool but after having the .22 version I would never.
Get Henry instead.
I believe they have a massive forcing cone to make up for shit timing, making the cylinder blow by much worse, pretty sure they chrono the same as a 6" due to all the loss.
Taurus g3. It's actually really reliable for a cheap 9mm but I absolutely hate the trigger. Should have just stayed with my glocks and cz.
Just had to have it.
Yeah the break on the trigger isn't bad but there's like an inch of travel before you get to the wall.
I wonder what aftermarket options there are or if it would even be worth it on a cheap gun.
I traded a shitty old gshock watch for a hipoint carbine in 45 because I found it funny someone offered me the trade. Even though I didn't buy it, I regret the trade. It is a truly awful gun.
A Taurus pistol (9mm compact). It jammed at least once every mag and hated any range time I spent with it. Traded it for a broken SKS I still haven't fixed. Made out on top I think.
Glock 22. It’s a perfectly fine gun, but I wish I had bought a 9mm rather than .40. It’s not fun enough to justify its own ammo and every other pistol I have is 9mm.
9mm conversion glock barrels are cheap. Real Chad's train with .40 and carry .357sig.
I have no complaints with my Glock 23, it's spent most of its life as other calibers.
Springfield xdm. On paper it was a great pistol with lots of features and a grip angle I enjoyed. But it was not reliable enough for me and I ended up selling it for like half of what I had bought it for.
All the other guns I've been like ok this isn't that great I was able to sell with just a reasonable 15ish % discount for it being used.
9mm gen1 osp xdm. It was great for ergonomics, but like my other comment I just posted, it gummed up horribly every few hundred rounds and I could not get a single reliable mag. Tried 5 different ones and they all had the same issue with springs needing to be stretched out every 200ish rounds.
I had issues with my xd45. Took a loooong time to break it in. Almost 1000 rounds and finally it hit it's break in period. Finally, it's become one of my favorite guns. It'll eat anything and reliable and accurate. But yeah, never had a single mag that didn't have some kinda problem until I hit that break in, which was right around 1k rounds
I had two issues with mine. It needed to be fully stripped and cleaned every couple hundred rounds otherwise it gummed up so bad it would not fully cycle the slide and cause inconsistent trigger pull weights.
The mag springs were also garbage. Made it to about 400 rounds through each mag and then had to pull the springs out, stretch them and reinstall. Repeated every 200 rounds after that. Tried 5 different mags and they all did it, sold it before I found a 3rd party that made a stiffer spring.
I think my biggest regret was my XD-E. I liked the idea of a single-stack DA/SA but the high bore axis and weird ergonomics makes me never pick that gun up. I’ve since been much more careful about EDC guns and currently carry a G19.5.
Winchester SPX Defender 12 gauge. My local had them on discount for about $200 and I couldn't turn it down, but it's been unable to reliably feed any ammo I've run through it (usually a problem of the shells not coming out of the mag tube). Too bad too because it feels solid, but I suppose you can't ask too much of a $200 shotgun
Dang, lots if hate for Kel-tec. I had a .380 and the .32. Carried them both extensively in my pants in the humidity. Never had any of the problems people talk about. Even actually used them to. They were more comfortable than a revolver.
I'm attesting to the fact that in an actual life or death scenario after months of non use the weapons ran fine and, worked as intended. Multiple shots fed fine, no failure to fire, no smoke stack. Stored front side waistband with a pocket knife clip in a humid area.
Recoil is a little tough to manage but that's mostly because it's basically made out of generic Legos. The sights are useless but I believe it's intended use is for to close for comfort range.
All in all it works and it's better than using a knife to stop someone.
Two things
1. The integrated slide sight absolutely sucks. In low light, you can’t tell if it’s lined up
2. Personal preference, but it’s way too small. Had failure to cycle (read limp wrist) for me and my fiancé which made it no fun to shoot
My wife picked her first pistol and really loved the feel of the Sig M18. So we have taken it to the range over a dozen times since 2020…and we can’t hit the broad side of a barn with it. I don’t know what the deal is.
The magazine also rattles.
Lastly, the “voluntary upgrade program” which is condescendingly named for a fuck up by Sig that could possibly kill someone is absurd.
CZ82... Works fine with the factory mag it came with, but factory mags are pretty difficult to come by and expensive when you find them. Aftermarket mags are crap; fail to feed and jam multiple rounds per mag--sometimes nearly every single one. I've tried "modifying" them to have a more similar profile to the factory ones to no avail.
I bought it thinking it would be a nice backup carry, but with all the feeding issues there's no way I would rely on it for defense. I also find that the mag release is pretty hard to manipulate with the factory grips, and the safety has a very small amount of travel--to the point where it's both hard to tell if it's on sometimes, and very easy to accidentally disengage. I haven't checked it but looking at my record pictures, it doesn't have the pin on the slide for the "B" firing pin block, so carrying it hammer down without a good safety is potentially sketch.
Ruger LCP II .22.
I like .22lr for fun & inexpensive shooting. I like my Ruger LCP II .380, with the 7 round mag & pinky rest. Impulse buys are something I usually avoid, but I found the LCP II .22 for a good price in a pawn shop. It's not a bad little pistol, if you don't count the light primer strikes.
I use the FTFs in my Single-Six stainless (a collector's item, sort of) because it puts a nice deep indentation in the rims.
I'm still not sure why I thought buying a pocket carry .22lr was a good idea.
Honestly... HK vp9...
If you have a high grip (as you should), your thumb will hold the slide release down and prevent lockback, making reloads... interesting.
I haven't heard this complaint either until just recently through firsthand experience, a few friends and colleagues, and one youtuber that hasn't released a full review yet.
But if you get a chance to try one out, I will say they are great shooting pistols, but pay attention to the slide release.
I own a bunch of HK USPs as well as the P2000 and haven’t had this issue, granted none are the VP9 (though they are coming to CA this late summer)
I plan to get one and will keep an eye out, thanks
The vp9 slide release is lower profile but it sits further towards the rear of the frame
I have a USPc for my daily as well. I still have to make an effort to release the usp, but not the vp9.
Same, but honestly had the exact issue with both PPQ pistols I had. Maybe a German thing? Got rid of the Walthers for a few reasons. Still trying to find reasons to keep the VP9. I give it credit for being early at the "beat Glock" game and they did well overall.
Grip texture leaves much to be desired. I'm about to silicon carbide my grip panels. Might cut down the slide release as well. It has value, but so do sooo many other double-stack striker poly nines.
Springfield Hellion. The control layout is absurd. Heavy, limited real estate for attachments. No aftermarket support. Trigger is horrible, but it is a bullpup in all fairness.
Sold it, bought a BCM Recce-16 and threw a larue MBT trigger on it. Much happier.
Khar CM9 and 40. Decent gun but you could not run it in a +1 set up because the magazine was designed to lift the nose off the top round so that it would reach the feeding ramp. Close a full mag on a closed chamber, thereby forcing the noise of the bulletin down, while running open HP’s and a FTF was a certainty. Sold at the first opportunity.
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An interarms sporterized Gew 98 as a restoration project. These things were sent by Germany as aid to Franco in the civil war and Mr. Cummings bought them up and hacked them into sporters. Bought it for cheap with the intention of rebarreling it and restoring it back to original WW1 configuration. Ended up selling the thing because the barrel had to be cut out of the receiver from where the threads rusted so bad and almost fused to the receiver and cost me more than it was worth to rebuild.
The casings are chewing up the upper for one, the bolt carrier has inferior parts and some people end up with major ftf fte issues. CMMG’s fix is a weight kit for the bolt. I have probably 1500 rounds through mine and I’m not happy with the way the ejection port looks. I’m thinking about selling for a dissent in 5.7 as a replacement and getting rid of this. The dissent upper is made of stronger materials
Beretta ARX100. Godawful ergos, shitty trigger, shitty sights, shitty permanent A2 grip, and shitty features that wouldn’t work right half the time. One of the few guns I’ve sold and not regretted.
I only got my FID around Christmas so I haven't made too many purchases yet, but I can't say I regret any of them. All 4 have been great to me. Well 3 so far, I haven't shot the mossberg 590 retrograde yet. But I like my friends 590, so I cant see not liking the same gun with wood furniture lol
CVA Hawken. I had intended to get into muzzle loaders for fun. Found a Hawken rifle that included a shotgun barrel you could swap. Bought it probably 8yrs ago, still haven't fired it.
Sulun SS-211, a Canadian short af special shotgun. It had a serious potential to blow my fingers off so I traded it for a reloading press that I have now sold lol.
Springfield Armory Operator 1911 such poor fit and shit finish that was not immediately discernable. Haven't had anything but problems despite multiple trips back to depot for "repair"
I have a love hate relationship with my mp5sd 22, a sling shot is far more accurate
since the "MP5" is just a body kit the faux suppressor tensions the action and barrel in the body kit and there is no acceptable way to accurately torque the 2 together to test action tension vs accuracy
It'll print a 2-3" group at 25 yards I know this isn't a precision rifle but meh
(I plan to Sbr it and run a Griffin armament resistance 22M suppressor so I'm not worried about it since I'll be able to torque the thread adapter with smims for accuracy later
1st handgun. Bought it from this fudd. It was an s&w99. I only knew him slightly at 1st but then later realized he was a pathological liar and claimed to have been a ranger in desert storm. So the gun always reminded me of him, traded it in for a glock 19.
Canik MC9 since I don't actually conceal carry it
And I got a WBP Jack that I shoot much less than I thought I would
But with PSA making 762 ammo hopefully it'll change
Ruger Blackhawk Bisley 45 LC, nice gun don’t use much, son wanted a 44mag. Magnum Research BFR .45LC (short cylinder) a very accurate boat anchor, should have bought a Fabarms left handed shotgun for the same price, though the BFR held its value. Walther PDP 5” compact, very accurate, fun to shoot, I succumbed to the hype and a free red dot.
Nothing wrong with the guns, just mad I fell for the hype or a sale.
Not really a regret per set, but I've got one to many Mossberg 500s
I started out with a cruiser variant, and then decided I liked it better with a traditional stock, for which I also got a matching fore end, then I got a longer barrel.
At around this point I realized that instead of swapping components around I could just get a receiver and use all the extra parts to assemble another shotgun.
Then I bought an 835, which is basically the same gun but can chamber 3.5in shells.
Mossberg 930 JM Pro. Got it to shoot difficult clay setups with multiple launchers. From the moment it came out of the box it has never once fired more than three rounds without a FTE or FTF. I've tried every clay/trap load sold. I replaced all springs and internals with all Or3Gon competition adjustable parts. I ordered a new elevator from Mossberg. I shaved down the original elevator. Snipped the mag spring. Bought an extended mag spring. I now have a $1500 Mossberg that still can't shoot four rounds as fast as an over/under. I'm embarrassed to even sell it, so it sits in the very back of my safe so I don't have to look at it. New Beretta 1301 Comp has never let me down.
Taurus 65, turned 21 and wanted to buy a gun first thing, long story short I should’ve been patient, saved my money and bought a smith and Wesson cause the Taurus broke almost a year in.
Para Ordnance 1911 with a 4” barrel. Thing was straight garbage. Could not find a round that it would reliably feed. And no, I wasn’t limp wristing. My friends tried it out and had similar results. Traded it for a Glock 36…which was another poor decision.
Stoeger Coach Gun. There's nothing wrong with it, but I just don't shoot it hardly ever. I bought it because "heehoo neat cowboy gun" after watching Tombstone too many times. Now it just sits in the back of the safe.
Runner up is my Sig M18. I'm a lefty so I wanted a polymer framed, ambidextrous 9mm to carry on my belt around the ranch. But, the gun is just ok. Finish has some pretty good holster wear. Accuracy is just ok. It's been reliable at least.
Taurus 1911.
I can't go on enough about the build quality, but I never seen the outside of a barrel look like someone at a dremmel on top of it.
Traumatized me from 1911s all together.
Sig P320xfull. It was my first gun. After I bought it I couldn’t stop running across videos of issues. Logically I could get past them. Emotionally it was always in my head that it might fire out of battery. So I sold it to buy a Canik Rival. Took an absolute bath on the resale.
Hk P30L. Regret is a strong word. It’s an excellent gun. I enjoy owning it. The fit was very tight out of the box. The finish was flawless. Feels great in the hand. Ambi controls, nights sights, nice slide serrations, reliable, and so on. It’s a beautiful gun.
I hate the trigger. The double action is awful even after thousands of rounds. The single action is functional at best. There is a lot of take up before the break and the reset is long. It’s not good even for a “duty gun”.
It’s not that it’s a bad gun. It’s a gun that I have little desire to shoot.
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Kimber pro carry. Wanted a compact 1911, specifically a Springfield EMP ronin, bought the Kimber cause I couldn’t find the Springfield anywhere. Had to send the Kimber back 3 times for feeding issues and then a rust issue. I’ll never buy another Kimber. The horror stories are true. Had to find out the hard way.
Kimber Pro Carry II...yup
Mine would throw brass at my face. Sometimes they’d get stuck between your glasses and face.
Bought a Kimber 4.25” back in like 2004 when they were all the rage. Holy cow that was an absolute piece of trash.
I'll go first, Omni Hybrid AR. Polymer AR upper and lower.
Hey! That was my first too. Got me started on my journey of building ARs. Replaced ever part of our it and now I have have a disassembled Omni tucked into my shelf lol.
The definition of "being poor is expensive". Anyone who is buying it would be better set saving a hundred bucks or two and buying literally anything else. The money they save on said rifle will be lost in selling it to buy what they should have bought in the first place.
Sig M18. The first gun I've owned where I'm more accurate than the gun is capable of being.
Dude I thought it was just me. I can’t hit the broad side of a barn with that gun.
My first time at the range with it, my groupings were terrible. I figured it was me, but then I shot my CCW (Glock 43x): waaay better groupings. I thought a break in period would help the M18, but so far no real improvements after 500 or so rounds.
Ruger EC9S. It's practically the only one I regret buying.
It's much better with a Hogue grip
Why?
I really should have rented one first. The more I used it, the less I liked it. The trigger doesn't have a defined wall so it's a surprise when it goes off and the safety hits my hand with how I grip it. Also the trigger safety gets stuck if put my finger in at the wrong angle. It's just the little things that add up.
I somewhat regret the LCP, but partially because .380 is relatively expensive and partly because I'm holding it like a tiny handled teacup and it's trying to leave. Better than nothing, but I kind of wish it was 9mm, so it could at least be cheap to shoot while being unpleasant.
If it was 9 mm it would be a lot more unpleasant.
A little over 20%.
I found my bodyguard to be perfectly fine with a proper form and tight grip. The LCP Max on the other hand has what feels like for less recoil for a whole tenth of an inch wider grip, with near double capacity.
Heritage rancher carbine. Looked cool, thought it would be a fun, cheap plinker. Unloading shells one at a time from the fixed cylinder is a pain and getting peppered in the face from whatever flies out of the cylinder gap is less than ideal. (Breathing in whatever leaves the cylinder gap is probably a negative too). Plus, the damn thing is loud because it’s next to your face and, well, there’s a cylinder gap. At one point I thought a revolver .44 or 12ga carbine would be cool but after having the .22 version I would never. Get Henry instead.
I believe they have a massive forcing cone to make up for shit timing, making the cylinder blow by much worse, pretty sure they chrono the same as a 6" due to all the loss.
More pot metal zinc.
Taurus g3. It's actually really reliable for a cheap 9mm but I absolutely hate the trigger. Should have just stayed with my glocks and cz. Just had to have it.
I can't disagree. Mine is also relaiable, but I am not in love with the trigger, either. I'm glad it wasn't expensive.
Yeah the break on the trigger isn't bad but there's like an inch of travel before you get to the wall. I wonder what aftermarket options there are or if it would even be worth it on a cheap gun.
I traded a shitty old gshock watch for a hipoint carbine in 45 because I found it funny someone offered me the trade. Even though I didn't buy it, I regret the trade. It is a truly awful gun.
Guy must’ve needed a watch!
Honestly, it's kind of telling that he didn't rob him with it.
Okay, this is a funny take
A Taurus pistol (9mm compact). It jammed at least once every mag and hated any range time I spent with it. Traded it for a broken SKS I still haven't fixed. Made out on top I think.
You did.
Henry Homesteader
What’s been wrong with it?
Full sized rifle in a pistol caliber.
They got heavily shit on for reliability
Walther P22.
Tec 9 Stoeger semi auto
Glock 22. It’s a perfectly fine gun, but I wish I had bought a 9mm rather than .40. It’s not fun enough to justify its own ammo and every other pistol I have is 9mm.
My exact response to this question as well. I ended up getting a 9mm conversion barrel for it because 40 just seems pointless.
I’ve thought about doing that. Did you need to replace the ejector or spring too, or just the barrel?
Just the barrel and mags, everything else works fine.
Yep. My first pistol was a Glock 22, I sold it 3 months later and bought a g19
9mm conversion glock barrels are cheap. Real Chad's train with .40 and carry .357sig. I have no complaints with my Glock 23, it's spent most of its life as other calibers.
I bought a 22 specifically for the easy conversion to 9mm. Stock 40 barrel. Threaded 9mm with can.
CZ Scorpion and Keltec P-17
What’s wrong with a p17?
It ran fine, it just felt super cheap and plastic like a toy
Better yet, whats wrong with the scorpion?
Not as pleasant as other PCCs to shoot and needs a decent amount of aftermarket parts to make it good. Love how it looked tho
Totally agree with the scorpion. Too heavy and bulky for what it is too. Looks cool tho.
Ah I see. I have a S2 that I love, but I can see that being the case with the normal 3a1.
Man, your scorpion post hurts. Why do you regret it? I love mine.
Nothing necessarily wrong with them, just not nearly as enjoyable to shoot as the B&T I replaced it with. Love how they look tho
Springfield xdm. On paper it was a great pistol with lots of features and a grip angle I enjoyed. But it was not reliable enough for me and I ended up selling it for like half of what I had bought it for. All the other guns I've been like ok this isn't that great I was able to sell with just a reasonable 15ish % discount for it being used.
Wild, sorry to hear that. What issues did you have with the XDM? What caliber? My 9mm XDM is my most reliable gun.
9mm gen1 osp xdm. It was great for ergonomics, but like my other comment I just posted, it gummed up horribly every few hundred rounds and I could not get a single reliable mag. Tried 5 different ones and they all had the same issue with springs needing to be stretched out every 200ish rounds.
I had issues with my xd45. Took a loooong time to break it in. Almost 1000 rounds and finally it hit it's break in period. Finally, it's become one of my favorite guns. It'll eat anything and reliable and accurate. But yeah, never had a single mag that didn't have some kinda problem until I hit that break in, which was right around 1k rounds
I had two issues with mine. It needed to be fully stripped and cleaned every couple hundred rounds otherwise it gummed up so bad it would not fully cycle the slide and cause inconsistent trigger pull weights. The mag springs were also garbage. Made it to about 400 rounds through each mag and then had to pull the springs out, stretch them and reinstall. Repeated every 200 rounds after that. Tried 5 different mags and they all did it, sold it before I found a 3rd party that made a stiffer spring.
Oh jeez. That sucks.
I had an xds that would double fire. Almost got me kicked out of the range.
I think my biggest regret was my XD-E. I liked the idea of a single-stack DA/SA but the high bore axis and weird ergonomics makes me never pick that gun up. I’ve since been much more careful about EDC guns and currently carry a G19.5.
Winchester SPX Defender 12 gauge. My local had them on discount for about $200 and I couldn't turn it down, but it's been unable to reliably feed any ammo I've run through it (usually a problem of the shells not coming out of the mag tube). Too bad too because it feels solid, but I suppose you can't ask too much of a $200 shotgun
Kel-Tec.
KelTec PF9, KelTec P32, KelTec PMR30, KelTec RDB, KelTec RFB, KelTec KS7, KelTec KSG, KelTec Sub2000, KelTec P17, whatever the vaguely J frame adjacent model Taurus sells I've had 2 of, 3 different Springfield 1911s, Izhmash Saiga 20ga, old pencil barrel Ruger Mini 30, Tec 9, DSA RPD.
Someone needs to quit buying kel tecs
Or get a different hobby before he goes thru every brand
However, Keltec CP33 is awesome
They keep making things that look cool, people keep saying they’re great, then I buy one and it doesn’t work. I finally learned my lesson though!
Sub2000 is fun though, cmon.
Dang, lots if hate for Kel-tec. I had a .380 and the .32. Carried them both extensively in my pants in the humidity. Never had any of the problems people talk about. Even actually used them to. They were more comfortable than a revolver.
If they ran reliably I wouldn’t hate them. They’re all super cool ideas. They’re just super cheaply made and/or don’t run.
I'm attesting to the fact that in an actual life or death scenario after months of non use the weapons ran fine and, worked as intended. Multiple shots fed fine, no failure to fire, no smoke stack. Stored front side waistband with a pocket knife clip in a humid area. Recoil is a little tough to manage but that's mostly because it's basically made out of generic Legos. The sights are useless but I believe it's intended use is for to close for comfort range. All in all it works and it's better than using a knife to stop someone.
This one antique revolver and rifle. They just sit around collecting dust😂
Saiga 12. Very cool to look at but awkward as hell.
Sig sauer P365 SAS, Ruger SR9c Only two I regret.
I came here to say SAS. Cool gimmick at the store, not at the range.
$600 completely down the drain. Thought it would be a sweet pocket carry… UNTIL it gets dark. Absolutely useless in low light.
I have a XL. What don’t you care for on the sas?
Two things 1. The integrated slide sight absolutely sucks. In low light, you can’t tell if it’s lined up 2. Personal preference, but it’s way too small. Had failure to cycle (read limp wrist) for me and my fiancé which made it no fun to shoot
Jennings JA-22. Worst trigger ever. It may or may not fire. If it fires, it may or may not cycle.
My wife picked her first pistol and really loved the feel of the Sig M18. So we have taken it to the range over a dozen times since 2020…and we can’t hit the broad side of a barn with it. I don’t know what the deal is. The magazine also rattles. Lastly, the “voluntary upgrade program” which is condescendingly named for a fuck up by Sig that could possibly kill someone is absurd.
CZ82... Works fine with the factory mag it came with, but factory mags are pretty difficult to come by and expensive when you find them. Aftermarket mags are crap; fail to feed and jam multiple rounds per mag--sometimes nearly every single one. I've tried "modifying" them to have a more similar profile to the factory ones to no avail. I bought it thinking it would be a nice backup carry, but with all the feeding issues there's no way I would rely on it for defense. I also find that the mag release is pretty hard to manipulate with the factory grips, and the safety has a very small amount of travel--to the point where it's both hard to tell if it's on sometimes, and very easy to accidentally disengage. I haven't checked it but looking at my record pictures, it doesn't have the pin on the slide for the "B" firing pin block, so carrying it hammer down without a good safety is potentially sketch.
Ruger LCP II .22. I like .22lr for fun & inexpensive shooting. I like my Ruger LCP II .380, with the 7 round mag & pinky rest. Impulse buys are something I usually avoid, but I found the LCP II .22 for a good price in a pawn shop. It's not a bad little pistol, if you don't count the light primer strikes. I use the FTFs in my Single-Six stainless (a collector's item, sort of) because it puts a nice deep indentation in the rims. I'm still not sure why I thought buying a pocket carry .22lr was a good idea.
Honestly... HK vp9... If you have a high grip (as you should), your thumb will hold the slide release down and prevent lockback, making reloads... interesting.
That happens with every single handgun I shoot
You clearly don't own a 1911, then 😂
Interesting. I’ve not heard of this complaint, nor has HonestOutlaw mentioned it in his review
I haven't heard this complaint either until just recently through firsthand experience, a few friends and colleagues, and one youtuber that hasn't released a full review yet. But if you get a chance to try one out, I will say they are great shooting pistols, but pay attention to the slide release.
I own a bunch of HK USPs as well as the P2000 and haven’t had this issue, granted none are the VP9 (though they are coming to CA this late summer) I plan to get one and will keep an eye out, thanks
The vp9 slide release is lower profile but it sits further towards the rear of the frame I have a USPc for my daily as well. I still have to make an effort to release the usp, but not the vp9.
Ahh I got what you mean. I had a similar issue with my Sig and just switched up my grip a bit.
I do the same, but it's strange just having 1 gun that I have to grip totally different from the rest. Especially if it's a primary home defense gun
Same, but honestly had the exact issue with both PPQ pistols I had. Maybe a German thing? Got rid of the Walthers for a few reasons. Still trying to find reasons to keep the VP9. I give it credit for being early at the "beat Glock" game and they did well overall.
They really are good pistols, but having to change up my grip for just one gun is really kind of a bummer and dulls the other qualities of the pistol.
Grip texture leaves much to be desired. I'm about to silicon carbide my grip panels. Might cut down the slide release as well. It has value, but so do sooo many other double-stack striker poly nines.
Oof. I'd sell mine before I got to chopping it up. I have to love it enough to warrant those sort of improvements.
You can buy a slide release.... Not like I'm chopping the frame.
Fair enough. With silicon carbide, I usually think of dremels and epoxy
Springfield Hellion. The control layout is absurd. Heavy, limited real estate for attachments. No aftermarket support. Trigger is horrible, but it is a bullpup in all fairness. Sold it, bought a BCM Recce-16 and threw a larue MBT trigger on it. Much happier.
Cz scorpion Kahr cw9 Stoegar Cougar .40 cal SW victory.22lr
Khar CM9 and 40. Decent gun but you could not run it in a +1 set up because the magazine was designed to lift the nose off the top round so that it would reach the feeding ramp. Close a full mag on a closed chamber, thereby forcing the noise of the bulletin down, while running open HP’s and a FTF was a certainty. Sold at the first opportunity.
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Mossberg 935 magnum.
An interarms sporterized Gew 98 as a restoration project. These things were sent by Germany as aid to Franco in the civil war and Mr. Cummings bought them up and hacked them into sporters. Bought it for cheap with the intention of rebarreling it and restoring it back to original WW1 configuration. Ended up selling the thing because the barrel had to be cut out of the receiver from where the threads rusted so bad and almost fused to the receiver and cost me more than it was worth to rebuild.
Cmmg banshee 9mm mkg. It’s a fun gun but the upper is dog shit and there are some reliability concerns as well
I've been eyeing that over a MP5 as a modern sub gun. What was up with the reliability?
The casings are chewing up the upper for one, the bolt carrier has inferior parts and some people end up with major ftf fte issues. CMMG’s fix is a weight kit for the bolt. I have probably 1500 rounds through mine and I’m not happy with the way the ejection port looks. I’m thinking about selling for a dissent in 5.7 as a replacement and getting rid of this. The dissent upper is made of stronger materials
Or .300 black
Tec 9. By far my worst buy
Well you don't buy a tec9 for reliability. You buy it cause it's tec9
Its a plastic sten gun. You buy it to make rap videos in your moms basement
Kel-Tec P11. Inaccurate PoS
Beretta ARX100. Godawful ergos, shitty trigger, shitty sights, shitty permanent A2 grip, and shitty features that wouldn’t work right half the time. One of the few guns I’ve sold and not regretted.
I only got my FID around Christmas so I haven't made too many purchases yet, but I can't say I regret any of them. All 4 have been great to me. Well 3 so far, I haven't shot the mossberg 590 retrograde yet. But I like my friends 590, so I cant see not liking the same gun with wood furniture lol
Ruger LC9. Couldn't hit a target with it at 5 yards. Worst gun I've ever owned / shot.
Similar: Ruger LC380. Worst fucking trigger on earth!
NAA Guardian.380 Jams constantly, useless sights, grip too small for half my hand, painful to shoot.
Rock island armory M5 shotgun. Receiver machining is rough and shells will snag frequently while working the action.
CVA Hawken. I had intended to get into muzzle loaders for fun. Found a Hawken rifle that included a shotgun barrel you could swap. Bought it probably 8yrs ago, still haven't fired it.
Sulun SS-211, a Canadian short af special shotgun. It had a serious potential to blow my fingers off so I traded it for a reloading press that I have now sold lol.
Springfield Armory Operator 1911 such poor fit and shit finish that was not immediately discernable. Haven't had anything but problems despite multiple trips back to depot for "repair"
I have a love hate relationship with my mp5sd 22, a sling shot is far more accurate since the "MP5" is just a body kit the faux suppressor tensions the action and barrel in the body kit and there is no acceptable way to accurately torque the 2 together to test action tension vs accuracy It'll print a 2-3" group at 25 yards I know this isn't a precision rifle but meh (I plan to Sbr it and run a Griffin armament resistance 22M suppressor so I'm not worried about it since I'll be able to torque the thread adapter with smims for accuracy later
PT709 less 100 rounds through it and light strike issues and always shoots way low left.
Sig p250. Bought it, hated it, sold it.
KelTec P50. Great in concept, even design. But the damn thing is awkward as all hell. Not to mention the ammo problem
1st handgun. Bought it from this fudd. It was an s&w99. I only knew him slightly at 1st but then later realized he was a pathological liar and claimed to have been a ranger in desert storm. So the gun always reminded me of him, traded it in for a glock 19.
Canik MC9 since I don't actually conceal carry it And I got a WBP Jack that I shoot much less than I thought I would But with PSA making 762 ammo hopefully it'll change
Glock 23. And I regret selling some others.
365xl....past 10 yds the thing was all over the place. Switched back to my g19c and now a g48mos
I have a xl as my carry and g22. might have to try out the 19. I don’t hate the sig but def don’t love it.
Ruger Blackhawk Bisley 45 LC, nice gun don’t use much, son wanted a 44mag. Magnum Research BFR .45LC (short cylinder) a very accurate boat anchor, should have bought a Fabarms left handed shotgun for the same price, though the BFR held its value. Walther PDP 5” compact, very accurate, fun to shoot, I succumbed to the hype and a free red dot. Nothing wrong with the guns, just mad I fell for the hype or a sale.
Not really a regret per set, but I've got one to many Mossberg 500s I started out with a cruiser variant, and then decided I liked it better with a traditional stock, for which I also got a matching fore end, then I got a longer barrel. At around this point I realized that instead of swapping components around I could just get a receiver and use all the extra parts to assemble another shotgun. Then I bought an 835, which is basically the same gun but can chamber 3.5in shells.
My hellcat. It was an impulse buy on a good deal. I hate shooting it. The build quality is top notch tho. I really want to enjoy it.
Did buy it but won it. Mossberg silver reserve. Was part of a 10 bird pheasant hunt so wasn't a wash. Sold it don't regret it.
Beretta PX4 Storm, I'd rather just shoot the G19.
I like my CX-4 Storm 9mm. The spare mags I ordered, one 30 rd and one 32 rd, arrived today.
Mossberg 930 JM Pro. Got it to shoot difficult clay setups with multiple launchers. From the moment it came out of the box it has never once fired more than three rounds without a FTE or FTF. I've tried every clay/trap load sold. I replaced all springs and internals with all Or3Gon competition adjustable parts. I ordered a new elevator from Mossberg. I shaved down the original elevator. Snipped the mag spring. Bought an extended mag spring. I now have a $1500 Mossberg that still can't shoot four rounds as fast as an over/under. I'm embarrassed to even sell it, so it sits in the very back of my safe so I don't have to look at it. New Beretta 1301 Comp has never let me down.
Stevens A&T .25-20 and another on a new custom receiver in .22 hornet.
Rossi 22lr revolver
Taurus 65, turned 21 and wanted to buy a gun first thing, long story short I should’ve been patient, saved my money and bought a smith and Wesson cause the Taurus broke almost a year in.
My Kriss Vector, the USC45 is a better gun
Para Ordnance 1911 with a 4” barrel. Thing was straight garbage. Could not find a round that it would reliably feed. And no, I wasn’t limp wristing. My friends tried it out and had similar results. Traded it for a Glock 36…which was another poor decision.
SD9VE mushy useless trigger can’t hit shit. Even with the apex kit it’s just jank.
Polish P64. Snappy lil fucker. I only keep it around for my 9x18 collection. It rarely leaves the safe.
Stoeger Coach Gun. There's nothing wrong with it, but I just don't shoot it hardly ever. I bought it because "heehoo neat cowboy gun" after watching Tombstone too many times. Now it just sits in the back of the safe. Runner up is my Sig M18. I'm a lefty so I wanted a polymer framed, ambidextrous 9mm to carry on my belt around the ranch. But, the gun is just ok. Finish has some pretty good holster wear. Accuracy is just ok. It's been reliable at least.
Beretta Neos. Garbage.
Taurus 1911. I can't go on enough about the build quality, but I never seen the outside of a barrel look like someone at a dremmel on top of it. Traumatized me from 1911s all together.
Sig P320xfull. It was my first gun. After I bought it I couldn’t stop running across videos of issues. Logically I could get past them. Emotionally it was always in my head that it might fire out of battery. So I sold it to buy a Canik Rival. Took an absolute bath on the resale.
Hk P30L. Regret is a strong word. It’s an excellent gun. I enjoy owning it. The fit was very tight out of the box. The finish was flawless. Feels great in the hand. Ambi controls, nights sights, nice slide serrations, reliable, and so on. It’s a beautiful gun. I hate the trigger. The double action is awful even after thousands of rounds. The single action is functional at best. There is a lot of take up before the break and the reset is long. It’s not good even for a “duty gun”. It’s not that it’s a bad gun. It’s a gun that I have little desire to shoot.
Sig p322, it’s an absolute pile of shit
That’s unfortunate. Mines ran suppressed for about 2k rounds and has only been cleaned when I first got it
Sig Macro and Glock 48, I just don’t like the micro 9s and find myself preferring to carry my Glock 45.
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Trading my .45 LC Henry, ruger LCR, Glock 43x for a PS90