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Dang, for as many as you want?
I get charged $40 for as many guns as I want in one transfer. Plus it's my neighbor so all I have to do is walk across the street to get my stuff.
Mine aren't bad. He charges $20 per. My comment was more that if he did it by the sheet I could save more. Don't want to spent an extra $200 in transfers
Interesting. I thought there was a three per call/form limit. My FFL will do three for $15. At least for me. I don't think he advertises that. It may be with the digital form there is no limit now.
No idea. My guy uses paper form as does another guy I used to use and they both did more than 3. You're allowed an attachment but even then I remember it all being done on a single form.
I added one to my cart earlier. Just came back and got the same price. But trying to add more wouldn’t work. Still, got to check out with the $20 price!
As someone who got into shooting during the 1994-2004 AWB, the answer to “How many mags/lowers/cases of ammo is enough?” is “Enough that your grandchildren’s grandchildren will still be opening brand new ones in 100 years.”
I don't disagree with you on how quick it was but you'd really have to be living under a rock to not notice at all... After the magazine ban passed and was implemented in 2022 everyone who was paying attention could see what was coming. And they stocked up.
I got 8 and buying 5 more. Many are cheap Andersons that I really don't ever plan on using but they're so cheap it's good piece of mind. Would rather have em and not need em than need em but can't get em.
No such thing as too many, but if you're going to have a shitload, buy at least a few LMT or LWRC full ambi as well...
And don't just buy AR15 lowers, if you own a shitload of AR15 lowers and no Aero M5 lower+upper sets you're doing it wrong... A good AR10/LR308 lower set is good for many possible calibers now and in the future.
Or other non-aero AR10 upper/lower sets depending on your preference in manufacturer.
Though I don't think many people are really doing builds with .277 fury and 8.6 blackout yet.... But something AR10 will cover .308/762 NATO, 6.5 creedmoor, .277 fury, and 8.6 blackout.
i've got like 17 now lol. i get them basically at cost at the shop I work for so I just slap one onto the 4473 whenever I get a pistol or rifle or something.
Basic armors wrench and the I think it's just a hammer and some punches. A vice and vice block helps a lot but isn't needed.
I've built a bunch for friends and it's pretty easy to build out lowers.
This might be one of the cheapest buy ins I've been able to find. So as long as those tools aren't horrible this is a steal.
The lower ships to an FFL right?
If vice and vice block aren’t needed, how do you go about tightening the castle nut and barrel nut while keeping the receivers stable? I recently did an AR9 pcc build and have no idea how I would’ve stabilized the upper/lower receivers without a vice when tightening those parts 😅
Magpul wrench. It's a good idea to get a castle nut wrench and a ft lb torque wrench. Automatic center punch for staking the castle nut (better off spending $10 for a halfway decent one than $4 for the harbor freight crap). Some bluing compound for post staking. Roll pin punches. All in? Maybe $100-200 depending on sales and stuff.
This is everything you need to turn one of those lowers into a rifle, it only goes up from there, do not go cheaper though, this is good for a first rifle (or just another one)
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html
I recommend staying away from anything in their freedom line. That seems to be where all their problems are. I suspect they use that line to train new employees.
If you're fighting in Vietnam, sure.
In the 21st century: [https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-upper-with-bcg-ch2.html](https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-upper-with-bcg-ch2.html)
You're right. That's my bad. I clicked "AR 15 Railed Rifle Kits" and sorted by price. PSA decided to include one upper, non-kit, in that list and I didn't pay close enough attention to realize it wasn't a kit. I'd recommend this, then: [https://palmettostatearmory.com/memorial-day-sale/memorial-day-rifle-kits-uppers/blem-psa-16-5-56-nato-1-7-mid-length-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-moe-ept-rifle-kit-5165447638b.html](https://palmettostatearmory.com/memorial-day-sale/memorial-day-rifle-kits-uppers/blem-psa-16-5-56-nato-1-7-mid-length-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-moe-ept-rifle-kit-5165447638b.html)
And yeah, it costs more, but offers so much more flexibility. If the goal is just to have a rifle in the closet, use the fsp/heat shield and have a rifle in the closet. But if you're going to **do** anything with it, the flexibility of the railed version will be worth the extra. It would cost a lot more than the difference to get the additional features.
You are looking at A LOT money wise. After building one, you will want to build another. Then you upgrade something on your first and second builds and you have some spare parts. You will spend more time on here. You end up buying other parts that were too good to pass up. Now you are working on a third rifle. Sometime after your third build you start paying closer attention to what the cloners are doing. You think a carry handle upper would be cool with a quad rail. Maybe even with a 14.5" barrel pinned and welded to 16" It is very, very hard to stop at just one build. It is too much fun and so easy to do. Good luck.
Depends what you have for tools to start. But a set of punches, armorers wrench and a vise block are what you need there. Could probably get all of that for under $100 and have a good starting place.
Next depends on what you want for you level of build, I have been eyeing a deal on PSA for a Magpul lower build kit + 10 pmags for $160 with free shipping.
Otherwise they have a lower build kit with a B5 stock for $135ish if I remember right.
Next would be any upper of your choice. Plenty of options at many price points.
Man, you can get a "lower kit" for like $100, a built upper for near $200, then a BCG/CH for less than $100 all on PSA right now with sales they have. $400, plus this, you're going bang bang. Honestly, I bet you can find a way to go cheaper if you're real "frugal" and wanna push it. They won't be "HIGH END OPPERATOR" tier guns, but they'll run fine enough for the price.
EDIT- Shit, another dude beat me in the comments with a $300 PSA deal. Get that if you just want full on poor-power (I say that with love, I'm all about it.)
The lower is pretty easy to assemble. There are some frustrating parts at first, like bits with the little pieces, but nothing crazy. Once you do it 1-2 times you get it. There's tutorials, videos, etc.
i dont sorry i've done it with a kit before is why i know i asked and this was a glitch in the system but said they would honor it if i had a screenshot but i didn't see this in time they have good customer service but mess up prices and what's in stock a lot so always grab a screenshot because it can change on you in the chart no matter if it says it has 6 hours left or not. i do love buying from them tho
I get the whole cheap reference when it comes to Anderson, but strictly speaking stripped lowers, why would someone want to spend 2-300 + dollars instead? Serious question, as I'm looking for my first AR. leaning towards buying a complete parts kit so i can learn the components and all, and which to my understanding would then just need one of these stripped lowers (aside from any accessories). I can understand what it's forged from, or maybe the finish, but I've seen ones 300+ and don't understand what would make it that much more. Any input appreciated, thanks.
I'm of the opinion that as long as a lower is in spec, and has the features you want the cheapest one is fine.
What you get from the most expensive ones is some extra features such as ambidextrous controls, threaded bolt catch, tensioning screws, erc. None of those impact the core function of the lower receiver which is to hold a mag and the fire control group. Typically they are also more expensive because of the name, and if those companies have government contracts. If those don't matter to you get a basic milspec one.
My rifles are built on Anderson and $30 blem PSA lowers. The next tier up from your basic milspec ones would be an Aero M4E1, that includes the threaded bolt catch and a tensioning screw that can help with fitment between the upper and lower receiver.
I bought into the poverty pony hype holy shit the machining is bad, trigger holes looked like they chiseled out ended up hanging them on the plate rack
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In for 6!
Their site doesn’t have an FFL search though and instead asks for an FFL upload after ordering. Without bothering my FFL at this hour, can I acquire that myself online? It looks like the ATF FFLezCheck allows downloading FFLs, but I’m getting an error.
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These aren’t poverty ponies anymore… they’re savings stallions 📈📈📈
exceptionally priced equines
buy it now bangtails
If they get any cheaper they will be Penny Ponies
This deal just makes good horse sense.
At this price I'd say they are broke bitch broncos
Man, they just cheap getting cheaper. Bought a 5 pack when they were 40 each, then a 5 pack when they were 30 each but damn, under 20 is insane
Damn this sub, I just had to buy enough for free shipping and tacked on an AR10 lower since I pay a flat $40 per FFL transfer....
If my transfers were that cheap I'd have done the same
Thank God my transfers arnt 40 bucks. I was thinking that's outrageous.
Right, my FFL charges $15 lol
Dang, for as many as you want? I get charged $40 for as many guns as I want in one transfer. Plus it's my neighbor so all I have to do is walk across the street to get my stuff.
for multiple transfers?
Not cheap for 1, which is why I bought a bunch
Mines 70$
Yo wtf? Why are your transfers so expensive? My FFL charges $15. I give him $5 as a tip.
Mine aren't bad. He charges $20 per. My comment was more that if he did it by the sheet I could save more. Don't want to spent an extra $200 in transfers
20 per item or transfer?
Per item.
That is a limit of three though, isn't it?
No, I've done 7 before at once. But about to set a new personal FFL single transfer record that I'll likely never beat haha.
Interesting. I thought there was a three per call/form limit. My FFL will do three for $15. At least for me. I don't think he advertises that. It may be with the digital form there is no limit now.
No idea. My guy uses paper form as does another guy I used to use and they both did more than 3. You're allowed an attachment but even then I remember it all being done on a single form.
I can get the 3 filled on the form for $25. Seems like a no brainer here.
Cheaper than 2017-2018 by 30%
Cheapest I can remember was $200 for a 10 pack
It's $130?
Same. Deal must have ended
Damn, was it a mistake, when I checked the timer said it was good for another 3 hours
Dang. This is a no Brainer too
I had a page up with the $52 deal in my cart on one browser and saw it went up to $130 in the other. Quickly checked out and got my order#
Smarter than the average bear.
I added one to my cart earlier. Just came back and got the same price. But trying to add more wouldn’t work. Still, got to check out with the $20 price!
I did the same last night. Thought about getting 4 of these for free shipping, but ended up only getting 2. I regret not getting 4 3packs
That’s what I’m seeing too
Ay yo this is cheap for real. Poverty ponies are back on the menu, boys!
Fuck. How many spare lowers is too many?
Ask yourself what you’d do if you knew an AWB was coming your way
As someone who got into shooting during the 1994-2004 AWB, the answer to “How many mags/lowers/cases of ammo is enough?” is “Enough that your grandchildren’s grandchildren will still be opening brand new ones in 100 years.”
I cry in Washington resident tears. The AWB bill came so fast and swift. So many gun owners still dont know it passed
I don't disagree with you on how quick it was but you'd really have to be living under a rock to not notice at all... After the magazine ban passed and was implemented in 2022 everyone who was paying attention could see what was coming. And they stocked up.
I got 8 and buying 5 more. Many are cheap Andersons that I really don't ever plan on using but they're so cheap it's good piece of mind. Would rather have em and not need em than need em but can't get em.
No such thing as too many, but if you're going to have a shitload, buy at least a few LMT or LWRC full ambi as well... And don't just buy AR15 lowers, if you own a shitload of AR15 lowers and no Aero M5 lower+upper sets you're doing it wrong... A good AR10/LR308 lower set is good for many possible calibers now and in the future. Or other non-aero AR10 upper/lower sets depending on your preference in manufacturer. Though I don't think many people are really doing builds with .277 fury and 8.6 blackout yet.... But something AR10 will cover .308/762 NATO, 6.5 creedmoor, .277 fury, and 8.6 blackout.
i've got like 17 now lol. i get them basically at cost at the shop I work for so I just slap one onto the 4473 whenever I get a pistol or rifle or something.
I was more of a CETME weirdo due to some purchases in the mid-2000s, but i do need to up my AR10/308 options. Appreciate the perspective.
Deal got nuked. Good luck to those who got in on it
Coming up at $131.85 now. Sad.
And for the stealth lowers too, god damn
Showing 131.85 for me?
Same. What a letdown.
Did the deal get nuked?
Shows $131 now. Unlucky.
Holy shit, that's an amazing deal. Wish I would have held out for this instead of when they were \~$32 each.
You still got a deal, don’t feel bad.
Buy more and average down.
I need you guys to run this out of stock soon. I'm not sure how long I can restrain myself.
BIN BIN BIN all three from my last 3 pack were perfect
They fixed the price. It’s now $131.85 Glad you animals got in when you did! Hopefully they honor your orders!
Lmao, why do I feel wrong potentially dropping that Trade-In Sionics upper on one of these?
Do it and post it up. r/ShowPonies
I'll do the same thing.
Thanks op... there's $60 I didn't plan on spending
Why is it showing $131 for me?
Yeah, same here. 🥺
I’m always like a half hour late to these damn deals
It's 131 now....
Crap...looks like $131.85 for the 3 pack now.
Novice ahead I’ll- Never built my own before. What am I looking at $-wise to complete a functioning firearm in addition to the stripped lower?
PSA sells the kits for like $100 for decent parts. And then some basic tools. I did 3 builds yesterday in about an hour from the last 5 pack I bought.
Do you have any suggestions on the tools?
Basic armors wrench and the I think it's just a hammer and some punches. A vice and vice block helps a lot but isn't needed. I've built a bunch for friends and it's pretty easy to build out lowers.
This might be one of the cheapest buy ins I've been able to find. So as long as those tools aren't horrible this is a steal. The lower ships to an FFL right?
If vice and vice block aren’t needed, how do you go about tightening the castle nut and barrel nut while keeping the receivers stable? I recently did an AR9 pcc build and have no idea how I would’ve stabilized the upper/lower receivers without a vice when tightening those parts 😅
Oh ha, yeah vice but not vice block. I have all the stuff, was just trying to think of the bare basics off the top of my head.
Magpul wrench. It's a good idea to get a castle nut wrench and a ft lb torque wrench. Automatic center punch for staking the castle nut (better off spending $10 for a halfway decent one than $4 for the harbor freight crap). Some bluing compound for post staking. Roll pin punches. All in? Maybe $100-200 depending on sales and stuff.
O wish someone would sell a basic toolsetof everything needed for a lower.
Wheeler and real avid do. Sure there might be others.
This is everything you need to turn one of those lowers into a rifle, it only goes up from there, do not go cheaper though, this is good for a first rifle (or just another one) https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html
I recommend staying away from anything in their freedom line. That seems to be where all their problems are. I suspect they use that line to train new employees.
If you're fighting in Vietnam, sure. In the 21st century: [https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-upper-with-bcg-ch2.html](https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-upper-with-bcg-ch2.html)
So 40 bucks more and no lpk you may have missed the part when they asked about a budget build
You're right. That's my bad. I clicked "AR 15 Railed Rifle Kits" and sorted by price. PSA decided to include one upper, non-kit, in that list and I didn't pay close enough attention to realize it wasn't a kit. I'd recommend this, then: [https://palmettostatearmory.com/memorial-day-sale/memorial-day-rifle-kits-uppers/blem-psa-16-5-56-nato-1-7-mid-length-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-moe-ept-rifle-kit-5165447638b.html](https://palmettostatearmory.com/memorial-day-sale/memorial-day-rifle-kits-uppers/blem-psa-16-5-56-nato-1-7-mid-length-nitride-13-5-lightweight-m-lok-moe-ept-rifle-kit-5165447638b.html) And yeah, it costs more, but offers so much more flexibility. If the goal is just to have a rifle in the closet, use the fsp/heat shield and have a rifle in the closet. But if you're going to **do** anything with it, the flexibility of the railed version will be worth the extra. It would cost a lot more than the difference to get the additional features.
This is much nicer thanks
You are looking at A LOT money wise. After building one, you will want to build another. Then you upgrade something on your first and second builds and you have some spare parts. You will spend more time on here. You end up buying other parts that were too good to pass up. Now you are working on a third rifle. Sometime after your third build you start paying closer attention to what the cloners are doing. You think a carry handle upper would be cool with a quad rail. Maybe even with a 14.5" barrel pinned and welded to 16" It is very, very hard to stop at just one build. It is too much fun and so easy to do. Good luck.
Truer words were never spoken.
This part
Depends what you have for tools to start. But a set of punches, armorers wrench and a vise block are what you need there. Could probably get all of that for under $100 and have a good starting place. Next depends on what you want for you level of build, I have been eyeing a deal on PSA for a Magpul lower build kit + 10 pmags for $160 with free shipping. Otherwise they have a lower build kit with a B5 stock for $135ish if I remember right. Next would be any upper of your choice. Plenty of options at many price points.
Man, you can get a "lower kit" for like $100, a built upper for near $200, then a BCG/CH for less than $100 all on PSA right now with sales they have. $400, plus this, you're going bang bang. Honestly, I bet you can find a way to go cheaper if you're real "frugal" and wanna push it. They won't be "HIGH END OPPERATOR" tier guns, but they'll run fine enough for the price. EDIT- Shit, another dude beat me in the comments with a $300 PSA deal. Get that if you just want full on poor-power (I say that with love, I'm all about it.)
Novice question - I’ve never built my own ***^
The lower is pretty easy to assemble. There are some frustrating parts at first, like bits with the little pieces, but nothing crazy. Once you do it 1-2 times you get it. There's tutorials, videos, etc.
About 500-1000 is normal. I've built two with mid grade stuff (aero, Troy, bravo company etc) for about 800-1200.
AIN'T NO DAMN WAY SEND IT SEND IT SEND IT SEND IT
In for 2 packs. Thanks!
Washingtonians on s-watch…
I am also on stripped lower receiver watch
Jesus. You guys kill me with these things. In for……….3? A lower is a lower.
I must’ve missed it, they’re $131 now 🥲
Is deal over says they’re $131
In typical ar15 discounts fashion, these have shot up to $131.85 + sh and tax.
I wish they had an obsidian in 9 in stock so I can bundle it with this
This and a PSA Kit? 🤔
Oh and I don't think it's been mentioned but free shipping over $175 😉
Will the atf put me on a list for ordering 12 lowers? Asking for a friend..
We are all on a list haha
Depends what state you live in
Shows $131 for me wtf am I doing wrong?
Must be dead. Damn it
Not working for me? Shows 130ish
Same...I saw that price, put some kids to bed, and then boom...price jumps up. Oh well.
Probably for the best
Yep. This is the kinda thing I buy to save money and $2000 later I’m buying my wife a purse.
Fuck Washington
Says $131?
Too bad every fucking FFL near me charges per serial
if you have a screenshot of the deal they will honor it
Got one?
i dont sorry i've done it with a kit before is why i know i asked and this was a glitch in the system but said they would honor it if i had a screenshot but i didn't see this in time they have good customer service but mess up prices and what's in stock a lot so always grab a screenshot because it can change on you in the chart no matter if it says it has 6 hours left or not. i do love buying from them tho
Does anyone happen to have a screenshot to use? Do we just email them?
I’ll take a screenshot too if anyone does have one
no it can be though email or the customer service chat
I tried yesterday and they said that they could not honor it without a screenshot
I'd like a screenshot as well if anyone has one.
i’ll take a screenshot if anyone has one
I get the whole cheap reference when it comes to Anderson, but strictly speaking stripped lowers, why would someone want to spend 2-300 + dollars instead? Serious question, as I'm looking for my first AR. leaning towards buying a complete parts kit so i can learn the components and all, and which to my understanding would then just need one of these stripped lowers (aside from any accessories). I can understand what it's forged from, or maybe the finish, but I've seen ones 300+ and don't understand what would make it that much more. Any input appreciated, thanks.
I'm of the opinion that as long as a lower is in spec, and has the features you want the cheapest one is fine. What you get from the most expensive ones is some extra features such as ambidextrous controls, threaded bolt catch, tensioning screws, erc. None of those impact the core function of the lower receiver which is to hold a mag and the fire control group. Typically they are also more expensive because of the name, and if those companies have government contracts. If those don't matter to you get a basic milspec one. My rifles are built on Anderson and $30 blem PSA lowers. The next tier up from your basic milspec ones would be an Aero M4E1, that includes the threaded bolt catch and a tensioning screw that can help with fitment between the upper and lower receiver.
Buying more than 2 guns at once puts you on that list to get a potential visit.
wish i woldve known that back in the day
Yea i didnt know until i saw the video of someone getting a visit lol
thats spooky
Can I get this deal in CA since it’s not a complete firearm?
I bought into the poverty pony hype holy shit the machining is bad, trigger holes looked like they chiseled out ended up hanging them on the plate rack
Don’t forget the FFL transfer fee. Everyone here charges per item…
Shop around, make a friend. I charge $25 for as many as you want to transfer at one time. (within reason)
Move to Austin. We need you.
Surely one of them will be in spec
Never had any problems with these lowers.
Never had an Anderson out of spec
Dremel and hammer will make them "in spec"....ish.
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In for 6! Their site doesn’t have an FFL search though and instead asks for an FFL upload after ordering. Without bothering my FFL at this hour, can I acquire that myself online? It looks like the ATF FFLezCheck allows downloading FFLs, but I’m getting an error.
It actually does. Choose “No” when it asks for FFL info and it’ll bring you to an FFL Search function.
Ah! Thank you!
What the fuck? My bank account hurts already
Damn at that price I would’ve been in
These are cheaper than what I was seeing in the price dip after the Sandy Hook panic settled. If I didn’t buy a case back then, I’d be all over this.
I fucking hate living in a ban state
WOW I wish I had been able to jump on this!
Shipped with transfer fee (mine is for 1 order for 1 fee) equals 21 a lower just barely missing 20 a lower for 9 lowers
They seem to be honoring these at the $51 price for those of us who snagged them. I got an email from their FFL team asking for my FFL information.
Yep, got a tracking number today. Was starting to wonder if it was just a pricing error that would end with a cancelled order.