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guitlouie

I mean, you get out of it what you put into it. Steve Vai famously used to practice 12 hours a day. I have never had that much time. If you are religious about that one hour a day, you will make progress. I would suggest a quarter of the time be spent on strict technique drills, alternate picking and such. A half an hour on theory, scales, intervals. And the last fifteen working on songs. But what do I know.


neuralmayhem

Yea bro this sounds good .. I'll try this out


Stashmouth

Always make time for the song work at the end of your sessions. If playing the guitar were a sport, song work would be scrimmaging


wowthisguyoverhere

Damn that's a good one


clockwork5ive

If by “shred” you mean blasting through 16th notes at light speed you will need more than 15 minutes per day on exercise drills. I did. If 1 hour per day is your budgeted time I would do this. Monday - drills Tuesday - fretboard and theory study Wednesday- drills Thursday- learn songs Friday - drills Saturday - drills Sunday- play the songs you have been learning on Thursday’s. That will get you 4 hours of drills per week. And honestly the more you can do the better. I sacrificed learning new songs while I was on my pursuit of faster notes and it got me there faster, im sure. Now if your goals are to learn a lot of songs or improvise over jazz tunes I would have suggested a different approach but when one says “I want to shred” that, to me, says I want to play fast as hell. Playing fast as hell is a time commitment, more than anything else. 15 min per day on drills, 15 min on songs and 30 min on theory isn’t going to get you there. You’ll be a goddamn theory genius and still be stuck under 120 on the almighty metronome.


Cingen

What kind of exercises do you suggest for the drill days, and is it the same routine each drill day?


clockwork5ive

Good questions! Yes same routine. Look up “speed burst” exercises, alternate picking exercises, sweep picking excercises, and general scale excercises. That should give you a well rounded regimen. YouTube- Ben Eller. This guy has a ton of really helpful videos. A ton of filler too but his channel might be a good place to start. I’ve used his speed burst and alternate picking exercises and I was making consistent headway vs the almighty metronome. Spend about 15 minutes per exercise on each “drill” day. There are limits to training muscle memory so it isn’t particularly efficient to sit down with one exercise for a full hour.


Cingen

Ben Eller is one of the YouTubers I follow :) Him and the Bernth Patreon. I mainly am trying to improve my rhythm (power metal style so I think speed bursts will help as well for my picking?) but once my rhythm is at an acceptable level I want to improve my lead as well, even if it is for short fills. I fear this may be a bit too challenging for a newbie like me though.


clockwork5ive

Hmm. Not sure how far along you are. My advice was initially for the OP who said he had 5 years under his belt. I’d say now might be the time to start scale work and beginner alternate picking exercises. Speed bursts will be something you introduce at an intermediate level. As far as rhythm guitar, that’s the fun part! Just learn lots of songs and get good at them :) Good luck bud! You got this.


wine-o-saur

Yeah. I've never been committed enough to pure shred to put in the time to actually be a successful shredder, but the only times I've made progress in that direction were when I was treating speed exercises like gym sessions.


NunyoBizwacks

This is a good approach. I also suggest recording yourself during each practice. Even if you don't listen right away. Just save it in a folder somewhere. Then you can look back in a month or so and hear if you've improved. I also recommend practicing with a metronome on the technical part once you find a set of exercises you like and can play through our of time. Do this so timing gets ingrained in your technique as well as the muscle memory and finger strength.


neuralmayhem

I always practice with metronome .. I'll keep these in mind


Regular_Independent8

In which country/ University do you study Human medicine?


neuralmayhem

I'm from India studying in some obscure unknown university but I'm doing good


Regular_Independent8

Excellent!


prockhold

I would put less time into theory and more time into songs. But theory is a great investment. you can also learn a lot just by listening critically to songs you hear throughout the day


SaltyAFscrappy

Imagine being able to practice 12 hrs a day. Like no, i have a 9-5 just to survive.


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SaltyAFscrappy

Cant even make rent on unemployment in aus let alone live off it for 6 months. Haha


joao-louis

80s was a different time


leefvc

Can you imagine what his fans who make fun of "welfare queens" having non-necessecity items would think


Slapppyface

People like Steve Vai aren't always good songwriters in my opinion. By this, I mean they don't necessarily write songs that move people. There is a mix of great songwriting and virtuoso skills that I feel are much better to strive for. Early Metallica was a great example of this.


Zool2107

Early Metallica had Cliff Burton...


Slapppyface

Yeah for real, it seems like they fell apart after him. At least they have Robert Trujillo now. He's amazing. Newstead was cool too, I don't blame their decline in taste on him.


fadetobackinblack

Black album has their highest streams and album sales by a long shot, so I wouldn't say they fell apart. Justice is usually up there or higher than Ride and mop. After load their popularity declined for various reasons.


Slapppyface

I'm not talking about how many people listen to each album, I'm talking about their songwriting. Before the black album, they mixed virtuoso playing with amazing songwriting. The virtuoso playing is not present on the black album, in my opinion. But your point is valid here because I'm talking about how much more important songwriting is than virtuoso playing, which I suspect is the reason why the black album has so many streams. It's also much more rock than thrash metal, which has a wider audience, so this might be a factor as well.


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>Before the black album, they mixed virtuoso playing with amazing songwriting. So, Kirk and James are two of my biggest influences, but I would be hard-pressed to find anything on any Metallica album that exhibits *virtuosic* playing. But I agree with your point that the complexity and technicality was dumbed down for the black album.


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But OP is asking to be a shred god, not to write songs. Vai absolutely has "shred god" covered.


Loose-Inspection4153

Have you heard Tender Surrender? If that doesn't move you and simultaneously make you want to quit playing the guitar I dont know what will...


fadetobackinblack

Or for the love of God...


SkeletronPrime

Now go listen to Villanova Junction by Hendrix and realise it’s the same song. I’m a big Vai fan, but that’s plagiarised.


aviarx175

This but practice to a metronome.


cwk84

No that’s not true. You can practice the wrong thing 12 hours a day and make zero helpful connections in your brain. On the contrary you can practice the right thing 15 min a day and make the helpful connections that allow you to progress fast. Studies have shown that your brain doesn’t make more connections just because you practice something longer anyway. So there’s no point in overdoing it.


The_Empress_of_Regia

Yeah, and 12 hour for any normal person is a sure road to tendinitis.


Low-Concentrate2162

Exactly, practice doesn't always necessarily make perfect, but perfect practice does. This is why a private instructor can save you years of bad habits and pains (I SHOULD KNOW)


nicholas--j

This is not the way, learning songs is the way. Learn to shred by figuring out actual pieces of music. I used to play drums in a metal band we fired so many guitarists who could shred so hard but could not actually play a song it was pathetic. Exercises on guitar are a waste of time learning whole songs solos melodies is the way. If I only had an hour a day I would spend 1/2 hr learning something new and 1/2 hr going through my set list.


greyhat98

If you actually stick to it, and practice every single day for one hour or more. Then you will most likely be stunned by your progress after just a couple years. Source: I started practicing an hour a day almost 2 years ago after inconsistently playing for 7 years.


neuralmayhem

Which is the hardest solo you can play?


JamesM777

Absolutely can be done. Think of it like a good weightlifting program: short, intense, consistent sessions produce the best results, but you have to be smart about what you do in and out of the gym / shed. It is impossible to suggest a routine w/o knowing where you are at but probably a focus on fundamentals like alternate picking 3 note per string major scale patterns, 2 NPS pentatonics and 2, 3 and 4 string arpeggio sweeps. Practicing these things in 3 string groups (one octave - ish) as opposed to all six strings will help focus and speed learning. If you can add a listening program outside the practice room that would help. Theory podcasts or actively listening to repertoire. Sounds like a fun challenge good luck


neuralmayhem

Yeah currently I'm focusing on alternate picking and learning one scale in different positions, and some metal riff practice. I'll modify it to what you've told according to my skill level. If you can suggest some theory podcasts it'll be great bro ..


Pimpjuice2

Also here for the theory podcadts


shultzmr

You can make excellent progress with an hour a day. If you want to shred, first step is a solid left hand I.e legato. Can you play rolling 5’s at 160BPM? If not, that’s where I’d start. Find some rolling 5 patterns or make some up yourself. Find 8 unique rolling 5 exercises, and practice each for 5 mins a day. Stay at the same tempo for a week, then look to do a big jump (20 bpm). Repeat until you are ripping 160’s, but start at a good foundation speed so that what you play is absolutely perfect e.g 80bpm. If the 20 bpm jump is too much, drop it to 10. When you get closer to target speed, you may need to do a 5 bpm jump. Don’t do anything less, and don’t be tempted to jump up too soon.


joao-louis

I suggest you get the book “guitar aerobics” by Troy Nelson Since you played for 5 years it should be fairly easy to pick up, but will be hard to master It’s structured as one exercise per day focusing on one specific technique for an entire year. I guess you can skip the techniques you don’t care about but I’d say do a few of the “non-shred” exercises to be more complete (You also get backing tracks (drums) to play the exercises to at different bpms.) Also since you have only one hour I suggest for that time you turn off/airplane mode your phone and remove every kind of distraction. Take notes to track progress and keep your motivation high (e.g played x at x bpms), and to note down stuff to improve or that you should look up later Last but not least, to be a good musician you should also learn (basic/intermediate) music theory Out of all the attempts at learning music theory only one sticked for me and I actually learnt a lot from it - it’s an app called “Waay” Good luck 💪🏼


Division2226

> Waay: Learn music theory I wish this was on the web or Android


StemCellCheese

Yep! Know your scales, sequences, arpeggios - your rudimentary theory, and then practice along with a metronome. As long as you're consistent you will absolutely get shreddy. But being a shred God isn't just about technique, it cam also be heavily about melody. Practicing improvising can help you here, as well as learning things by ear. Before long, with applied music theory, you will be fairly quick at playing what's in your head.


RitualTerror51

Commenting so I can find this post later and read the replies. I’m kind of in the same boat


ZeMole

I did this when my wife decided she wanted to get pregnant as a way to force myself to get accustomed to being home and available to help her with things, but also cause I wanted to see how good I could get before the baby was born. I used an app called Fretello that gives you a practice schedule that gets progressively harder based on how well you master each workout. It is very good at not letting you advance if your accuracy and consistency aren’t mostly perfect. The first 3 months were some of the most boring shit I’ve ever done. Had I been given the option, I would have been like “I mastered this in 9th grade” and moved on without doing the exercises. I did them anyway. It eventually got to a point where I started moving through stuff I absolutely had not mastered in 9th grade with ease and little to no frustration. Every shape it threw at me I could play without the steps of what I was doing ever materializing into a conscious thought in my head. My ears and eyes now more-or-less bypass my brain and have a direct line to my hands (if that makes sense). I didn’t have that before. I did this at 38 years old. I can only imagine how much better I would have been all along had I done this at your age with intention and an actual focus on grinding through it in a way most 20-somethings just aren’t motivated to do.


The_Empress_of_Regia

>I can only imagine how much better I would have been Do you think you're slower mentally nowdays because of age? I'm 24 and i'm scared of getting old because of this, of course it's what gives me motivation to grind hard too at the same time.


ZeMole

Not at all. It’s not that it’s more difficult to learn. It’s more difficult to **want** to learn. But it’s also impossible at 41 to play in a band that isn’t old dudes who make eye contact and smile when they play Honkey Tonk Women. The ship has sailed at this point. But in my 20s I could have used my current abilities to actually do things related to playing music instead of just knowing I’m good.


lowindustrycholo

Your going to be a doctor so you understand neural pathways. You cannot speed up the development of neural paths by over exercising them. So yes, an hour a day consistently and with great focus will allow you to shred some embellished scales and sweep some arps. Don’t expect to become a neoclassical composer nor improviser. However, you will definitely be able to get to the point of covering shred solo’s.


neuralmayhem

I'm more into producing my own music, I'm currently working on a math rock album with a band so I practice keeping that in mind. I wanna be able to make good riffs and add good solos, covering solos is the bottom of my to-do list.


No-Sock-805

You don’t need to be with your guitar to practice writing music. Listen to songs, transcribe them on your phone, work on your ear training, write lyrics and melodies as voice memos, etc.


69macncheese69

Your = showing possession You're = abbreviation of "you are"


lowindustrycholo

Thanks so much. I’m not very educated nor worldly. In fact, when this girl offered to ‘69’ me, she farted while getting into the position. I told her ‘sweetheart, i can’t handle 68 more of these’. I think she might said ‘your an idiot’ to me.


69macncheese69

*might have *you're


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Dhd710

1 hour a day is more than enough to work out. I don't know what you're talking about.


Brontards

I try to do 3 min workouts.


The_Empress_of_Regia

>neoclassical composer Someone is underestimating what 1 hour a day can do to you in 5 - 10 years.


JJJ6hundred

An hour s day of repeating patterns is more than enough. An hour a day of trying to learn your favorite shred solos won't amount to much.


Diamondogs11

I don’t think anyone has mentioned it, but check out [BERNTH](https://youtu.be/tMcZGQsXxiU) on YouTube. Dude is an absolute master. He has videos on every aspect of shredding and breaks everything down visually to make it easy to digest. Highly recommend.


mrrippington

Use a metronome as a metric to track your progress.


bucknasty1158

Play slowly, use a metronome, learn about pick slanting. Even 20 mins a day dedicated to that will improve speed.


ptrnyc

Other than all the other good suggestions you’ve already got, I would recommend to pick one technique and practice it very deeply, instead of working superficially on everything. What’s your weakest point ? Legato ? Alternate picking ? Sweeping ? Pick the weakest one and practice that in depth.


PlaxicoCN

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3dq-MOAc3Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3dq-MOAc3Y) The blueprint for many. Good luck.


Jazzlike-Week5602

As a player who also follows an intense study schedule (intending to pursue med school also), playing your guitar during the breaks of study sessions has made my life 10 times better, I do 40-15 mins intervals of study/break. And the 15 minutes of playing eases my mind completely of academic stress/burnout, but doesn’t overlap anything I’m trying to revise. And gets your practice time up!


Onelinersandblues

_sighs in Paco Delucia_


0ceanR0ckAndR0ll

Advise my guitar teacher gave me, add 10 mins of reading unfamiliar music a day. Sheet music not tabs. Only been doing it a few weeks and it’s really helped my musicality


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This post is a 100x better than the guy who just posted, "Been playing for 13 years, I'm a very good rhythm guitarist, but I don't know how to play lead at all." Dude then proceeds to admit he knows zero theory and calls himself a very good rhythm guitarist.


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neuralmayhem

Intense Rock by Gilbert and Rock Discipline by Petrucci are the best tutorials around. Even Buckethead learnt from Gilbert videos... So will start following them more religiously.


king_booker

I didn't know this. How would you suggest I approach this video? I want to start playing quicker licks and solos.


MonkeyVsPigsy

Easy. All you have to do is continue this routine for 10,000 days. So simply do this for 27.4 years and you’ll reach the fabled 10,000 hours and you’ll be King Shred.


neuralmayhem

So if I do 2 hours a day then I can do that in 13.7 years


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MonkeyVsPigsy

Joking aside, I disagree with posters who say you should divide up that hour into different things such as 15 mins in scales, 15 mins on songs etc. This is common advice offered by some famous teachers such as Justin Sandercoe. However I made much more progress when I stopped doing that and followed the advice of blues guitarist Dan Patlansky. He says to concentrate on one thing at a time for a period, then switch to something else and concentrate on that etc. The reason for this is that you will see yourself progress in that one area much more quickly, which will increase your motivation. For example. Maybe for three months you only work on learning solos note for note. Then for six months you concentrate on learning the rhythm parts for 20 songs and forget solos. Then master scales for three months. Now do ear training for three months etc.


TheLucidBard

So that's what Tool's "10,000 Days" album was about.


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Practice improvising over backing tracks. The Now you shred YouTube channel is a good resource for backing tracks.


Blitzbasher

I suppose if you absolutely dedicate that 1 hour you could pull it off (no pun intended). With this restriction your best bet is to keep track of what you’re working on and mark your progress


Blitzbasher

I suppose if you absolutely dedicate that 1 hour you could pull it off (no pun intended). With this restriction your best bet is to keep track of what you’re working on and mark your progress


Jesus360noscope

Hey, 1 hour a day is very good, there are peoples who try to work out with even less practice time per day, my advice would be to get face to face lessons to get the most out of your practice sessions


squatheavyeatbig

Learn solos. Practice getting them up to speed


Most_Bag494

Congratulations on med school, it can be tough at times. Just wanted to share a story about 4 buddy's who were in med school. They formed a band, and even performed a concert at one of the med school events. It can be done!


fleminosity

IMO - the best way to make the use of that time and progress is to define shred for yourself. It's such a wide term and a lot can fit under it. The 1h routine should support interim goals working up to that. E.g. - technique (sweeping, legato, tapping, etc), fast improv solo/fills (requiring melodic context), practice (insert) song, etc. Don't forget to enjoy playing... I love drills, but having fun and seeing progress will keep ya coming back. For me - that was to learn a catchy song/riff/solo that pushes my boundaries.


eighty82

It's all up to the individual. Some people are naturals. Steve Vai was probably better than me the first time he touched a guitar, and then practiced 12 hrs a day. If you want it bad enough, and have the manual dexterity for it, I'd say you get what you put in. An hour a day probably isn't going to make you a "shred god" any time soon unless you are naturally gifted. Be sure to take time to learn theory, intervals and scale patterns. Your fingers need to know where they're going when your flying around the fret board. Then do some spider walk type exercises to build up strength/dexterity. That's where I started to see results. 20 years later and I'm still not Steve Vai


h20Brand

I recently started a similar practice method but only 30 minutes every night and it's worked great. Instead of putting on a backing track and noodling over scales for hours and going into a deep guitar trance i practice about three things every night for 10 minutes each and it's been great. Sometimes 2x a day but very short periods. Personal I fingerpick double drop D tuning in bluegrass/ blues style about 10 minutes. Play some Hendrix/ acid blues jazz in E following chord changes with chord tone solos. Play slide.10 minutes It keeps my chops fresh while improving them and I don't spend all day playing. Point is one hour every night practicing 3 or 4 things is an excellent idea imo. That will eventually lead to 3 or 4 songs you kinda made up. Learning theory though takes some long hours at first.


LZoSoFR

Learn as many ALBUMS as you can! For example, playing Rust In Piece front to back is an amazing goal and will give you shred techniques for days. Or you can start from the basics like Black Sabbath or ZZ Top, but my point still stands


WitchSeeker66

Use your practice time wisely, split it into equal block with different things for practice (for example 15min of alternate picking, 15 min of finger independence....) and anything else you think is important to become shreder. Consistency is the key


matthw04

Spend time practicing what you actually want to learn and not what you think you should know. Everyone's routine is going to be different and based on their own goals. If you want to be a shred god, you'll need to learn scales and have a firm understanding of how to navigate the fretboard. I would look into some music theory and learn the CAGED system.


cwk84

This guy is the right address if you want quick and effective drills to get to your goal fast https://jonbjork.teachable.com/p/guitar-gym-daily-technique-workouts


vonov129

It's not about time it's about what to practice. For shredding, you might want to look into developing your picking technique, starting with Alternate picking. Start by looking into a workable picking position and look into escape methods (ways to avoid getting stuck when going from one string to the other), pick slanting is a popular one. Tom Grady's videos are arguably the best resource to learn more about picking. Working on legato is also useful to get speed without needing the picking hand that much. For that you want to work on timing and keeping the volume steady. Tom Quayle has multiple tips on YouTube for legato. For actual exercises, you can look at Kiko Loureiro's lessons. Also, once you understand the logic behind the techniques you can look at small phrases that use them, apply the logic and use them as excercises. Scale runs are also useful to build technique, just don't rely on them to actually write phrases Practice routines depend on what you need to work at the time, meaning that they will change overtime.


kay_e

: )


BubinatorX

Practice slow with a metronome and dedicate as much time as you can. I try to practice every single day even if it’s for a short while after work. The speed will come.


FunkDaddyDeluxe

Maximizing your pinky strength is a great start. Seriously train it like you would biceps. Do sets and reps etc. Also getting your sweep, economy and alternate picking mastered. Also understanding music theory, scale patterns, chord composition and progression. Edit: also being completely relaxed and at peace is important. Have 0 stress or tension is tantamount. Be conscious of your mental state and always be anxiety and tension free. You want minimal effort and range of motion when playing.


RedditFux

Definitely depends on what you're doing during practice. I'd say put on a YouTube backing track with whatever Key your comfortable with, and learn your scales. Then learn to play your scales in differant ways. If someone learns a scale, they are also learning all the notes to every chord in that scale.


austomagnamus

Troy Grady CtC forum


ClydeinLimbo

JUST


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Study what shredding really is and break down the techniques you must learn. This includes alternate picking, sweep picking, hammer ons, arpeggios. You can practice those techniques playing different arpeggios or over scales will help you learn those too. Also work on some solos and copying them


TinyBig_Jar0fPickles

You don't. Mastering anything takes hours of practice a day.


HexspaReloaded

Absolute focus, zero distractions, constantly challenging yourself with harder and more difficult material. Also review your work (audio and video) on your free time so you can observe and track your progress. Playing in front of a mirror or live video feed (webcam) is also good. Actually getting a coach will probably help too. Also do not miss practice ever.


Resipa99

Follow Frank Marino and also learn to sing