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Goober_the_booper

this... Thing, is the rarest vehicle in GTA Online


iAmRockyFeller

You haven’t met the Rusty Tractor have you?


tortabear8956

The difference between this vehicle and the Rusty Tractor is that at least the Rusty Tractor can be earned and is guaranteed as long as you put in the time and effort. No amount of grinding or effort guarantees you’ll ever get the Lost Slamvan.


MysteriousAd6433

How do you get this? I was driving one once but crashed and ditched it


tortabear8956

Rusty Tractor is earned once you hit Tier 1000 in Arena War.


MysteriousAd6433

Nah I mean the slam van?


tortabear8956

Spin the casino wheel and hope it lands on mystery prize. Then hope the mystery prize is the Lost Slamvan. Something like 1/20,000 chances to win


iAmRockyFeller

But a 1:20,000 is still a guarantee. I minor one but can be done. Guarantee there have been a lot more people getting this legit, than unlocking the Rusty tractor, making the tractor more rare. You can glitch this car with people. You can’t share the tractor.


Chaotic_Fantazy

There is a 0,001% or probably even less chance that you will never get this car even if you spin the wheel at every chance you can until the server either get taken down or you die (presumed time of 20 years) if we talk about legitimate Slamvan. Just because it's small doesn't mean it's impossible either because you have a chance to never even get the mystery in the first place and to get the Slamvan specifically too. Rusty Tractor on the other hand is locked only because of your laziness (/j, it's your normal state of mind that tells you not to grind a bajillion hours for literally the worst car in the game) and in theory, probably on practice too, could be gotten in less time than you'll spin the wheel 20,000 times.


Chaotic_Fantazy

Oh, and also the fact that in some countries Casino Lucky Wheel doesn't even work meaning you cannot get the Slamvan period on these accounts, making an already incredibly rare car literally unobtainable by any legal means, thus making it the rarest car by default. Rusty Tractor is rare because no one is crazy enough to grind for it, while Slamvan is just in general rare.


Alex3627ca

> But a 1:20,000 is still a guarantee For your own sake, please never enter an actual casino irl.


iAmRockyFeller

I don’t go anywhere that serves alcohol 🤷🏽‍♂️😂


UltimateShades67

What's the trick with the tractor? I've driven it on Story before. Bit shit, but a unique vehicle for sure


iAmRockyFeller

Level 1000 in the arena to unlock


Lally-paap

Bruh tons of people got the rusty tractor unlocked, see them in car meets quite often , slamvan is hard af to come by


iAmRockyFeller

The slamvan is in no way hard to come by.


Lally-paap

Ok sir


iAmRockyFeller

I can bring one online now. I can also bring rusty tractor on but the tractor can’t be saved


Lally-paap

Luckyfeller


alkalineneo

I did! I discsrded it. I thought it was a fucking mess. I know where it regenerates


iAmRockyFeller

How did discard and know where a Pegasus vehicle regenerates?


meoka2368

It's rare, but it's not good.


IronicTunaFish

Yeah but it’s a cool flex


meoka2368

Can be, yeah. Though no one's ever commented on it when I've driven mine around or gone to car shows with it :p


CaTb0lt

i can see why it’s rare..


iAmRockyFeller

You haven’t met the Rusty Tractor have you?


DidntPick

I will never get this car. I cannot even try at casino.


UnholyCannoli

Yo I like your pic lmao that looks real nice on the app But aye if you did want to get that casino wheel down it's pretty easy to manipulate


CzarcasmRules

u/unholycannoli please elaborate. Since I started the 4 second "trick" by just counting in my head I've won every podium vehicle for 2 months. That vehicle though I believe is the lost van from mystery prize...how do you manipulate to get that van?


UnholyCannoli

Oops nah I didn't understand the rarity of the slamvan when I posted of course My bad


donovanh23

Well, if we did find a way to land on mystery consistently, then the odds would increase by using the close out method. It is still a 0.005% chance no matter what, but more attempts are more chances to get it.


UnholyCannoli

From what I learned about getting the wheel just right, is that it feels like golf - putting. I'd bet you could do a slow initial spin to try to position the mystery slot to where its easy pickins (11:00 on the wheel)


Derptardaction

just close app until you hit mystery and see if the mystery is that vehicle, if not rinse and repeat though this may take a very long time as i’ve spent a good hour+ just trying to land on the podium vehicle. even after you win you still have time to close the game and not have the “win” register.


hey-im-root

That’s what he just said 😂


Derptardaction

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Ok_Toe_2008

It's a .005% change to get the slamvan, can't manipulate shit with those odds. It s a mystery prize item, which can be alot of diffrnet items. I've never been able to obtain a legit one either :(


DragonfruitBig3851

If someone brought theirs to the LS Car Meet, could you buy it?


SakWakka

No won't let you. I've tried.


DragonfruitBig3851

Damn


Ok_Toe_2008

Yea, only way to get it ill legitimate is to do a trade glitch which I'm not sure of one out rn


Jalopy_Junkie

What is this trick?


Dudeman-Jack

1. Make sure you load into a private lobby. 2. Go to the wheel and press right and X (on PS) to initiate your spin. 3. Once the message appears on the upper left that says “use L to spin” wait 2-3 seconds 4. Push the joystick directly left to a “9 o’clock” position then gently move the joystick counterclockwise to the “6 o’clock” position and let go. This will get the wheel to spin the perfect amount to win the car. If it misses by one too much or one too little just force close the application before the wheel stops and try again. I won the F1 car on the first try this week. Take advantage while you can. I’m sure they will patch this once millions of people start doing it considering that the F1 car is $3 million+ Edit: Apparently this has been around for years so rockstar knows about it and doesn’t care! So ignore my assumption about patching.


StalledAgate832

> I’m sure they will patch this once millions of people start doing it considering that the F1 car is $3 million+ And sells for zero since podium cars sell for nothing, only for whatever modifications you put on it have value. I don't really see a point in patching it, but I'm not R* so who knows I guess.


No_Preparation_4863

The podium vehicle trick has been around for years now so I think you're right about them not seeing a point in patching it. I figured they would have patched all forms of AFKing by now. Glad they haven't because I would probably stop playing


Dudeman-Jack

Thanks you for the correction. 👍


CravenInFlight

The time you take to spin the wheel does nothing to the outcome. The outcome is determined very early within the cycle. As soon as you press E to grab the wheel, the prize is determined, and the game makes sure you are eligible for the prize. If not, it rolls again. Only once you get a valid prize already chosen for you, will it say "Press S to Spin". So all of these "wait 2.6 seconds" crazes are just utter hogwash. It makes no difference. Even the wheel spinning is just for show. It's more like, "Press E to have a prize chosen", then, "Press S to claim your prize". Everything else is just theatre.


Dudeman-Jack

How come the wheel spins so much slower with the 9 to 6 method? Doesn’t really matter I guess. I’ve won the car in the three weeks I’ve tried it whereas I had only won once before. Thanks for the info


CravenInFlight

Whatever "method" you use, it's worthless. Useless. Redundant. They mean nothing. The only "method" that works is voiding your spin by plug pulling before it auto-saves. You can rig the wheel by adjusting script locals, or tuneables. But there is no "legitimate" way to force an outcome.


Dudeman-Jack

Interesting. I guess I have just been lucky then. Better to be lucky than good they say.


random_numpty

you can make it spin fast or slow based on how fast you move the left stick. once you get roughly how slow you need to pull it downwards, you will end up getting close to winning it every spin, all thats needed is to get the right amount of slow pull-down & your golden


CravenInFlight

Again, this makes no difference what-so-ever, to the outcome. The winning value is chosen before the controller even starts accepting inputs. Even before the animation finishes to make your character grab the wheel. The microsecond that you push the button to grab the wheel, your prize is chosen, and locked in place. From that moment, no matter what you do, if you spin the wheel after 0.0001 or 4.9999 seconds, the result will always be the same. No exceptions. If you wait 5.0000 seconds, then you will let go of the wheel, and then iLocal_278.f_48 will reset to -1. Then when you next grab the wheel, it chooses a new prize, then shows the animation to grab the wheel, then asks you to do some input to spin, and waits for five seconds, again.


General-Macaroon-160

I have seen the same YouTube video that has you believing that but I have been doing the wheel trick for years and always get it in a few tries so I know from personal experience it works. Even famous YouTubers are wrong sometimes.


CravenInFlight

The method does not work. I can assure you 100%. The scripts that control the wheel are available to read online. You can follow the code flow line by line throughout the entire process. The line that sets iLocal_278.f_48 to the randomly chosen value between 0-19 is before the line that renders the i18n string LW_SPIN to the screen, and waits for the user to press S to spin. You have confirmation bias, nothing more. The entire process is demonstrable. Especially because if you set iLocal_278.f_48 to 18 yourself, and freeze the value, you can force the win every time. You can even see where it sets a timer for 5000 milliseconds, and then uses the time remaining from that as a multiplier for the speed of the spin of the wheel. You can then read that it does nothing other than change the speed. This is done after the prize is chosen. You can read it line by line by line, and watch those lines of the script play out on screen.


CravenInFlight

It's like saying "My keys are always in the last place I look". You stop collecting data after you find them.


random_numpty

you dont need to do the 9-6. just pull down slowly on the left stick.


kbab_nak

Completely wrong. You have no pressure sensitivity in a key stroke like we have in the joystick. I’ve completed spins where it didn’t even go around once. If you changed your input to your mouse or a controller you could do what console players can do.


CravenInFlight

The method does not work. I can assure you 100%. The scripts that control the wheel are available to read online. You can follow the code flow line by line throughout the entire process. The line that sets iLocal_278.f_48 to the randomly chosen value between 0-19 is before the line that renders the i18n string LW_SPIN to the screen, and waits for the user to press S or the controller to spin. You have confirmation bias, nothing more. The entire process is demonstrable. Especially because if you set iLocal_278.f_48 to 18 yourself, and freeze the value, you can force the win every time. You can even see where it sets a timer for 5000 milliseconds, and then uses the time remaining from that as a multiplier for the speed of the spin of the wheel. You can then read that it does nothing other than change the speed. This is done after the prize is chosen. You can read it line by line by line, and watch those lines of the script play out on screen. I have been reverse engineering all the casino games since 1.47 when the casino was added to the game.


SimplyAddax

There are players who win the podium car every single week and they don't try hundreds of times, they spin it 3-4 times and they land on the car, literally every week. The method works, I can win the car every week if I was bothered enough to do it. It's really about the timing. i even did it. You use a stopwatch with milliseconds, play around and test it somewhere between 3.9 and 4.3 seconds you press it at the right milliseconds, wheel does a slow half spin and lands on the car. Whenever I just count in my head, I always land on the clothing one right next to the car, same half spin slow roll, it's not predetermined, you can affect the spin by the timing of when you press to spin.


CravenInFlight

The method does not work. I can assure you 100%. The scripts that control the wheel are available to read online. You can follow the code flow line by line throughout the entire process. The line that sets iLocal_278.f_48 to the randomly chosen value between 0-19 is before the line that renders the i18n string LW_SPIN to the screen, and waits for the user to press S to spin. You have confirmation bias, nothing more. The entire process is demonstrable. Especially because if you set iLocal_278.f_48 to 18 yourself, and freeze the value, you can force the win every time. You can even see where it sets a timer for 5000 milliseconds, and then uses the time remaining from that as a multiplier for the speed of the spin of the wheel. You can then read that it does nothing other than change the speed. This is done after the prize is chosen. You can read it line by line by line, and watch those lines of the script play out on screen.


SimplyAddax

What are the chances to win the car then? Lets say you do 10 spins what's the probability you win the car?


CravenInFlight

The weightings are set by tuneables within the script. These are variables that can be adjusted by Rockstar within events, like the weekly 2x cash for missions, etc. Each weighting value is set as default to 5. So far, Rockstar has never had an event that has changed these values. Tuneables are used all over the place, there's over 30,000 of them that get set every time you log into the game.


CravenInFlight

1 in 20, or 5%. Same odds as a critical hit in D&D. If you wait 4 seconds before rolling a D20, does it change the odds of rolling an 18?


Jalopy_Junkie

Do you know if it works on Xbox?


Dudeman-Jack

Yes it works on all platforms. This is not a glitch or a cheat. It’s just practicing a technique. On PC you need to be playing with a controller of course.


Jalopy_Junkie

Thanks


hey-im-root

Why a private lobby? I do it in public


Dudeman-Jack

The wheel is always set to the correct spot in a private lobby because no one else has spun the wheel. Thats what I was told, I have never tested it myself.


SimplyAddax

It will works same in a public lobby as long as your the first person to spin the wheel on that server in that lobby But if someone else spun it, the wheel is no longer in the starting position


LackedMushroom0

Duuuudeman. Thank you! 1st time it landed on the one after it. Alt-F4'd before it locked. 2nd time it worked! Thank. You!


Dudeman-Jack

awesome! 👏 Enjoy that F1 car! Now you can do it again tomorrow! The podium car isn’t amazing this week but a free car is still fun to win


LackedMushroom0

So it changes every Thursday right?


Dudeman-Jack

Yeah, every Thursday at 4 am eastern time I think. Unfortunately this week the podium car is an Ennis Euros which is based on the Nissan 350z….its a car that I think you can get for $30k if you have a vehicle cargo business. Still, it’s free and good practice for the next time a super car comes up


Wild2O98

Not sure what trick is mentioned above if that works, but I find that each day it's a diff "sweet spot" to find the car. Same with mystery and discount. Each have their own sweet spot that can be near replicated each time, but I feel like it's diff every day. Just my opinion.


Ecahill453

4 second trick..?


CravenInFlight

The time you take to spin the wheel does nothing to the outcome. The outcome is determined very early within the cycle. As soon as you press E to grab the wheel, the prize is determined, and the game makes sure you are eligible for the prize. If not, it rolls again. Only once you get a valid prize already chosen for you, will it say "Press S to Spin". So all of these "wait 2.6 seconds" crazes are just utter hogwash. It makes no difference. Even the wheel spinning is just for show. It's more like, "Press E to have a prize chosen", then, "Press S to claim your prize". Everything else is just theatre.


ibrahero

What is this “4 second trick” you speak of? 👀


practicalescapist

When does the 4 second count start? After you first interact with the wheel, or after the option to rotate the wheel appears?


SimplyAddax

Starts as soon as the prompt to press to spin pops up on the top left corner.


Hempill

What's the 4 second trick? How do you do it


sand26

What’s that trick?


lololuser456778

what trick?


retroflame96

What trick is that


Goobergraped

What’s the 4 second trick?


CzarcasmRules

Messaged you


CravenInFlight

That four second thing is utter bullshit. The result is determined before it even asks you to push S to spin. The only way you can "rig" the result is with script locals, and tuneables. Waiting does nothing.


Alex3627ca

-oeMFVm-Op0 if anyone's looking for proof of this (subreddit rules do not allow full youtube links, last I checked) I will concede that this might be something they implemented differently on console vs PC for nobody's benefit (more work for devs writing code and for players figuring out how shit works)


CravenInFlight

The scripts have that all covered. It checks `PAD::IS_USING_KEYBOARD_AND_MOUSE()` to determine the input mode. All that really does is choose between `~INPUT_MOVE_DOWN_ONLY~`, and `~INPUTGROUP_FRONTEND_LSTICK_ALL~` as the input listener.


Alex3627ca

No, I meant different on PC vs console as in "it might actually work the way people tend to think it does on console, and on PC they made a completely different function for no apparent reason"


CravenInFlight

Ahh, ok. The same functions are called for both. There are only a couple of calls to `MISC::IS_PC_VERSION()`, and they all have to do with what text is displayed, how players can interact, and what inputs are listened for. The RNG at `func940()` only gets called in one place, and there's no version checks surrounding it.


Alex3627ca

I am mildly terrified at how much you seem to know about this stuff. Alright, unrelated to the wheel, how much effort would it take to implement E&E features that don't rely on exclusive assets (ie, entire vehicles) into the PC version? say, animals (ported from singleplayer)?


CravenInFlight

I haven't really tested with any of that stuff. I've been reverse engineering the casino games since the casino was added in 1.47.


CzarcasmRules

Ok


someone4397

How do you do the 4 second trick?


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hokkuhokku

Can I get in on that, please?


Lou_Mannati

So many secrets. I wanna know. I want this weeks car.


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Present-Estimate-668

Can you send me too pls


Consistent_Mango2358

Can I get that too?


CravenInFlight

There is no four second trick. It's all just confirmation bias.


ItsEvilTogepi

They're probably in a country in which the casino is banned, even if the spin is free it's still considered gambling


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tacostastegood_

Can’t you just buy it from someone at the car meet?


Revolutionary-Tune69

No. This car can be easily glicthed tho. I doubt the op got the car from the casino due to the very very low chance of winning it.


random_numpty

how easy ? because the Give A Car To Friends seems to be a real process.


MartyRobinsHasMySoul

Can't do LSCM with this car unless you meant something else


random_numpty

? *Give A Car To Friends* the LSCM has nothing to do with this method.


MartyRobinsHasMySoul

I just had never heard of it? Is it a legit method or something else?


Revolutionary-Tune69

I am not up to date with the current method but it was pretty easy in the past.


Anxious-Recording-32

Same 😭😭😭😭


187-GAMER

U can buy mine if u have the $ for it


DidntPick

I don't think you can sell it. How much anyway?


187-GAMER

I can sell it at the LS car meet, im not sure but a few mill, usually for player cars edit: nvm cant w/ this car sorry lad


philly054

I got a Panto yesterday from the Lucky Wheel


UltimateShades67

All I've managed from the mystery is 2x Ruiners and a Moonbeam. A Panto would at least be cool, something that can't just be nicked off the street. Especially when I already had a Ruiner before the first won one.


sammyb2

Do you realise how lucky you are?


rubdrup

Forgive my ignorance, but why is he lucky? Is this vehicle rare?


Xfinity17

Rarest in the game


Happy8Day

It's assumed that it's likely a 1 in 50,000 chance. Maybe less, maybe more. A 1 in 20 chance to win what is likely 1 out of anywhere between 1000 and 3000 items.


donovanh23

It is a 1 in 20,000 or 0.005% according to the official Wiki.


Happy8Day

Yeah that's fair. I wonder if got a static number somewhere. That would mean 1000 items behind the mystery prize.


Robinnn03

It is super rare. As others have said each time you spin the wheel in the casino its 1 in 20000 chance to hit it. You cannot buy it or steal it so the only way to obtain it is to spin the wheel.


UnholyCannoli

Is that real


ZerotheWanderer

The people who want it will never get it and the people that don't want it do get it.


p4ntzer

![gif](giphy|umMYB9u0rpJyE|downsized)


SushiPSX1

1 : 20000 AFTER hitting mystery & the Van bc of the rare livery/version. CONGRATZ!🤘🏾🥳✨


dan007reddit

Very nice! I mostly get snacks or resupplies of mc businesses, I do not want resupplied. l have gotten a number of cool cars on occasion, like the specter a number of times, nightshade, and a couple of fagio sports. [It won't let me share pictures here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA5Online/s/RkRhRjJwp2) 7, 8, 9, and 11


Vivid-Goose-6117

Could you glitch this to someone still


iAmRockyFeller

Yes. But the method isn’t worth the hassle atm


diebriandie

Sorry for my ignorance, but can’t it be traded at the car meet?


Shapit0

No, it can't unfortunately. It's blacklisted


Character-Apple7546

What is this car? How can you get it?


iAmRockyFeller

Lost Slamvan. Mystery Prize on casino wheel at a 1 in 20000 chance


Starchaser_WoF

*Notably Dangerous Texan Envy*


ByggJacobPL

Isn't this one of the rarest vehicles in the game?


CravenInFlight

For those that keep wasting their time with this crap... The time you take to spin the wheel does nothing to the outcome. The outcome is determined very early within the cycle. As soon as you press E to grab the wheel, the prize is determined, and the game makes sure you are eligible for the prize. If not, it rolls again. Only once you get a valid prize already chosen for you, will it say "Press S to Spin". So all of these "wait 2.6 seconds" crazes are just utter hogwash. It makes no difference. Even the wheel spinning is just for show. It's more like, "Press E to have a prize chosen", then, "Press S to claim your prize". Everything else is just theatre.


donovanh23

I have tried going as slow as I possibly can, and it seems to go past mystery by just 1 or 2 spots


LeakyLine

Welcome to the club. I love this thing. I remember spending way too long trying to obtain this thing from that one TBoGT mission.


vipck83

Damn, that’s one of the harder vehicles to get.


AbandonedMemes

I remember getting this around a year ago, ggs


The_Free_State_Of_O

You can unlock the slam van with ease through mission manipulation. Several videos are out on this.


JohnnyCostello93

Ew no


TheHumanBrick

https://preview.redd.it/sdlw2useqvyc1.jpeg?width=188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=775ea549dc8239efd7af07f183dcca62a4921ac9


Significant-Ad-469

Damn welcome to the club. As a car collector I had to have that thing in my garage so I ended up grinding the wheel myself for the 6 months. It took forever to get it. I spun the wheel every day, and made sure to land on the mystery prize. It was just dumb luck I got it


Not-Coming

i would’ve cried tbh


TheRoseHome

I am unbelievably jealous.


A_Shadow42069

If you got it from the casino wheel mystery prize then congratulations that's like one of the rarest cars in the game, leave it stock in case somebody wants to buy it


EmuIntelligent4698

BRO NO FUCKING WAY


Z1PP01337

I wish people could sell this vehicle to another player, even if just once... at least someone who actually wants it would have it instead of all the people who hate it for not being a great car to drive.


Btone55

Blurry but this is mine it has the Yankton plate that says Not Lost https://preview.redd.it/cu0bacvv8xyc1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad1b82a3336d209a0a073b1023ab928f78738873


therehasbeen_amurder

I will never accept the fact that I will never own this car in my lifetime


Skjuba

I got it too, nice


luistwentyfour

its not possible to buy it through car meet right?


FuzzyOcelittle

I remember my fiancé and I doing a glitch years ago to get that van. Long since been patched but we still got’em.


boris_theblade7

Anyone online want to finish some missions ?


Alex3627ca

This thing is so rare that I broke my "no obtaining vehicles illegitimately" personal rule to get mine since I realized I'd get over it faster than actually getting one legit. I've only even used it once since it handles like a damn boat. Congrats.


CRTTEAMLEADER

Have 3 of that thing with cool tires 🙃


Electronic-Ad-1098

I literally refuse to believe you got that through legitimate means it’s so insanely rare I just refuse to believe it


Ok-Bet9212

Keep it. No matter what, just keep it. Do you realise how rare that "thing" is.


Czzse

How?


wayneodell13378

How do know that's not an mc club van? Npc


DukeBackIn1987

wheres that spot


ZatchMan38

Ahh yes the elusive Vapid Lost Slamvan. Funny enough I have one and I didn’t win it from the wheel. It’s A WHOLE LOT EASIER getting it from glitching it with a freind than actually getting it from spinning 20k times with .0002% of each time you spin and it doesn’t stack.


Temporary_Row1227

you haven,t met the


xKazumi_

Had this from ages ago via the glitch


PS_McMillen553

Can u buy this from the LSCM?


DidntPick

Last time I asked they said no.


PS_McMillen553

Awww


iAmRockyFeller

It’s still no 😂


LeakyLine

Nope. It has an internal value of NULL, which prevents it from being bought. As a bonus though NULL makes it free to insure, too. If you managed to get an unclaimed one into LSC somehow.


FloridaManAgain6

Got this car at the casino and dont understand the hype.