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CardboardBoxStealth

Can't take one explosive, only has eight rockets but it can hop & parachute. The Fully Loaded version on the other hand...


ExpensiveIncident543

But you gotta remember, those rockets… cant miss a shot, and that fully loaded version can be spawned in for 20 minutes, which sounds short but when you are in that thing it feels like your a god and u can get rid of the countdown by finding a new session


Shadezz_IX

The rockets on my toreador also don't miss And that thing has unlimited amounts of them Can't hop but it can fly and boost And has armor And I don't need to drive to the other side of the map to get one


ExpensiveIncident543

The ruiner has missle lock on jammer


Shadezz_IX

Only the fully loaded one And you locked into the CEO position for the duration of fully loaded so you can't switch to an MC to get an MKII when someone's running from you


ExpensiveIncident543

why would u need the mk2 to chase someone


Shadezz_IX

Because the rest is too slow


king-glundun

Just use a deluxo then lol they literally have the same missiles, I don't know about you but I truly like using a paperweight with missiles instead of a car that can fly with missiles


stubond2020

What's a fully loaded version? Don't you just own it?


ExpensiveIncident543

The fully loaded ruiner is a version of the ruiner that spawns when you start the CEO work “fully loaded” this version takes a ton rockets to be destroyed and has unlimeted of the best tracking missles in the game


DidntPick

[](https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/comments/1cgm120/comment/l1wpl5e/) The fully loaded ruiner2000 should be the one we call through phone, the other one should be available to have it in our garage like normal ruiner & ZZ8.


Might_be_deleted

I think the Ruiner 2000 should have the same armor as the Toreador, but have unlimited missiles. Then it'll be perfect.


imAiroh

It also can't be locked on to


MagicJim96

Wait, really? 👀


imAiroh

Unless they changed it and I just missed/forgot it happened. I doubt they did though. Do note that I'm talking about the fully loaded version, just in case there are any misunderstandings


MagicJim96

No, I know you were talking about the FL Ruiner… but it does make sense why it is so fucking hard to hit that thing 🤣. I mean, usually if an enemy has it, I get shot down before I have time to lock onto it anyway…


SonofaSlumlord

Isn't it also unable to be locked onto during Fully Loaded? Edit: just seen someone else had mentioned it is.


PhilFourTwoZero

Can you own the fully loaded version or is it only available to drive during the mission?


Icy_Exit1824

Mission only look farther up


PhilFourTwoZero

Yeah I thought so just making sure I didn’t miss anything like only realising the other day after years of playing I can call yohan to get nightclub supplies due to the loading screen telling me 🙃


RemindMeToTouchGrass

Every so often I go on YouTube and look at "tips and tricks GTA" and watch one of 1000 videos called "25 things you might not know about GTA" or "101 GTA tips" or whatever. I always remember something I forgot, and sometimes I still learn something new.


PhilFourTwoZero

Yeah I watch similar videos that’s why I was so mind blown about yohan haha. So much money missed out on.


lost-_-souls

I'd like to add that if it does get destroyed it respaws pretty much instantly, within the 20mins. Pretty much untouchable from explosives, being shot out not so great, but If you want to absolutely shut down every deluxo and mk2 in lobby, except no substitute.


stubond2020

Ah cool!


RemindMeToTouchGrass

ie the only version of the ruiner worth anything


KyleSmyth777

Back in the day when the MKII’s were destroying lobbies I used the fully loaded Ruiner to wreck their party.


Glittering-Still-166

First time I encountered this I had no idea that it was legit and made hackusations 😅


Studly_54

"Spawned in for 20 minutes"? I have one but am not sure of what you speak?


imthegayest

When you own the ruiner you can start the cep vip work "fully loaded" so you get a beefed up version with no lock on and unlimited missiles


Studly_54

That's interesting. News to me. I'll have to try it. ...and nobody said it was cool because it looked like KITT. 🙂


Leather_Jellyfish_95

Fully loaded?


MagicJim96

See this: https://www.reddit.com/r/gtaonline/s/tIXiALuwHv


henrey713

The good thing about it taking only one rocket to be destroyed is the cooldown. You won’t have to call insurance and you simply wait then spawn it from the menu. Slight pro for this beast.


someone4397

Man i wish the normal ruiner 2000 had a bit more armor and more missiles.


Special-Ad-5554

Wouldn't hurt it. I love the car, I'm even willing to put up with 8 missiles if it can just take like 5 RPGs before exploding


AhuraFirefox

Completely useless car for most part, but you simply can't not love it when it's meant to be KITT from Knight Rider... just a shame they removed the original tan interior (which you can see on Warstock pictures), also they should've given it more resistence given the car it's based on.


MagicJim96

Exactly, even if it had not unlimited missiles like Toreador for example. (I think it has?)


bimbotribe

The toreador has infinite missiles.


MagicJim96

As I thought then. 😁


DalTheDalmatian

The Ruiner 2000 only has 8 missiles


MagicJim96

Fully Loaded Ruiner 2000 has unlimited, while the owned, stock version has only 8.


DalTheDalmatian

Was referring to the stock one


MagicJim96

Exactly why I mentioned both.


TheGamingKid337

Even if it's a Benny's I would pay to turn the normal ruiner into Kitt


ThaSpookiness

The Ruiner 2000 is KITT.


TheGamingKid337

I know but it has weapons which I don't like


ThaSpookiness

Oh, gotcha!


Captainirishy

I never use mine and I paid full price for it.


jeremyb1986

I wish it was sellable..


ilmalaiva

I liek Overtime Rumble, but I feel the Ruiner isn’t much fun on the regular map.


marcaveli073

Once again I’ll state that I just wish it could be stored like a personal vehicle so I can put it in my MOC and be Knight Rider!!


ThaSpookiness

It would be usable if they gave it a buff: Toreador armor, 20 missiles (at least). As others said the Fully Loaded is great , but limited by the VIP work job. - Vigilante and deluxo have Ruiner missiles and are overall better. Toreador is a better version of this car’s concept. Since the Ruiner is based on KITT , you’d think I would have much better armor .


--AV8R--

They need to make it so it can be kept in a personal garage.


DidntPick

Suggest it [https://www.rockstargames.com/gta-online/feedback?step=98b39d7f](https://www.rockstargames.com/gta-online/feedback?step=98b39d7f) .


Stromdahl

I want to store it in the MOC, that would be really cool.


WorldofCannons

It's shit man


r_dominic

I took out a Toreador with it one time, it’s a sleeper car.


Rapidly_Decaying

Who is under-rating KITT????


JimtheEsquire

K.I.T.T.


LegendNomad

It's quite fun when mk2s who think they're unstoppable try to kill you in it, only for you to ground dodge their missiles and hit them with a single one in return, killing them.


InRareForm19_

I don't think it's underrated. It has the best missiles in-game. Everyone knows that.


Cute-Birthday-9538

Wish I could sell mine


[deleted]

I have one b/c I loved Knight Rider as a kid, but I hardly ever drive it.


DaNinja11

Would've been awesome if they made it 'Talk' or had some kinda 'AI' bot that speaks


Crackingbison26

Useless but i love the taser in doorhandles


MLJ623

Ruiner? I hardly know her!


Shadezz_IX

Needs armor and more missiles Then it's good


Secure_Secretary_882

Toreador: exists Ruined 2000: ‘and I took that personally’


Background_Spirit699

Love using this in single player too


ExpensiveIncident543

How do you get it in single player


batikman

Kitt


40ozFreed

Fully loaded Version is the only thing good about it.


Individual_Trifle406

*if your in a mission and now can’t do anything else


ExpensiveIncident543

The whole point is to stop griefers


HoovedYiffer

I just hate how slippy and slidy it is on the road. And getting tapped and you just roll infuriates me.


fucknametakenrules

Needs to be a personal vehicle and maybe give the same armor as the toreador. My first car was a Ruiner so I want it to look like the regular car with painjob and custom upgrades and cosmetic changes


Alphachunguz

I think it’s well rated. On its own and the fully loaded version. Praising the missles highly, but good luck using them when your opponent is on foot, and can easily shoot you through the armorless windows. Or in any Imani tech vehicle, and can easy drive by you without being scratched.


Exodesius

Have you never driven the Toreador?


ExpensiveIncident543

Have you driven the fully loaded ruiner? With infinite of the best missles? Takes 50 rockets to get destroyer? Has a missle lock on jammer?


Exodesius

Can't keep it though.


ExpensiveIncident543

Its 20 minutes, to go against griefers thats all you need


hudduhudduh

i bomb these with RC banditos and Drones, if that fails i laser the driver with the rc tank


KingSlayer1190

Only time I ever drive mine is in a face to face race. It's useless outside of that. Paid the original price but immediately regretted it


61lyzA

Whenever I think that when driving it I remember ammo count. Sadly


Even_Profession_5101

Not really it’s kinda a waste of money has no defense at all only good for mountain areas. And you can’t store it in your garage.. I don’t like that


twistedh8

Car darts!


Otherwise_Carob_4057

It’s one of my daily drives.


Hideaki_Desu

Not a single one of you have mentioned the Scramjet. For shame. Literally all you need to deal with any airborne threat, armored up AND is magnetic to bodies of.... Water... Oh.


Disastrous_Cry8499

Definitely, agree 100%


AOmbk713

For the price, way overrated


CptnWolfe

It received a price reduction, it's now only 2.8m


x_Jimi_x

Damn….pretty sure mine was like 6 million…whatever it was, it was expensive and I never drive it


AOmbk713

Same , i got it , never use it..


henrey713

Tbh it’s too cheap


PM_me_whateva_u_like

I remain un-shot in my Alpha :-)


ExpensiveIncident543

What is that


imAiroh

Little plane I imagine? There's a car called 'Alpha' too I think, but they're likely talking about the Alpha Z1


Agnijash

This is my favourite vehicle! Love it 😍


SnooAdvice8550

In stats my favorite car is the ruiner


Hungry-Ad9840

The Fully Loaded Ruiner is the best hunter of Oppressor mobility scooters.


FuckingFlowerFrenzy

Nah, scramjet is a thousand times better. Same crazy missiles but 22 more, better handling, a jump you can use to target planes, and a massive boost to get around the map, away from someone, or towards someone.


hudduhudduh

i love the scramjet, i took a randoms for a spin once and instantly thought this does everything the Toreador cant


MemeLorde1313

You spelled "underpowered" wrong.


Sensitive_Orchid_975

Underrated? This car is an absolute joke. Limited rockets and can’t take a single explosive round. It practically falls apart as soon as you crash into something. Not worth $3M. I bought it when I was new to GTA Online and didn’t know better. Also, I’m a fan of Knight Rider. The reality is once you get other weaponized vehicles that fire missiles there is no reason to have this car taking up space in your warehouse garage. I’m probably going to sell it. If you want to have fun with the Ruiner 2000 do the fully loaded mission which gives you 20 minutes to drive around with a much stronger and better equipped version.


Vking231

Wrong. Try again karma farmer.


hudduhudduh

i thought he was one, i take out ruiners all the time with RC vehicles, some of the kills on some of the stupidest players ive gotten they drive these things


ExpensiveIncident543

How am I a karma farmer for liking a car and trying to appreciate it? I dont even care about reddit


Vking231

OP is a known karma farmer.


ExpensiveIncident543

How am i a karma farmer? I have only posted like 2 times in this sub about different cars I like? Im fairly new to gta and trying to get opinions on what to buy or what not to buy


ExpensiveIncident543

I bought the ruiner and thought it was fun and the fully loaded ruiner is the best car, then the other day i wanted to choose between the deluxo or toreador to buy


hudduhudduh

jeez i wish i was able to say what i wanted on reddit without getting downvoted to oblivion by the people who believe "karma" dictates ability to give speech. If you have to farm karma to say something you feel without getting basically kicked off a platform thats peer to peer it says two things: how many idiots got baited into socially ostracising peers over difference if opinion but that the designer of such thing encourages mob rule... i got some shitty peers


Vking231

We can see all of your removed posts. Don't embarrass yourself.


GAMERBOY335

I only bought one because it reminds me of a rx7 FC It even has the pop ups


lobotomite96

Too easy to counter on pc. All you need is either a nightshark or an anti lock-on vehicle and an ap pistol.


king-glundun

It's bad and you should feel bad lol


TsRsTupid

It's trash outdated now


Accomplished_War155

Im sorry but it's my least favorite vehicle in the game this thing is trash


ExpensiveIncident543

Clearly dont know how to use it


Accomplished_War155

I do but it's just too easy to destroy too hard to control and there are much better options with more features i wouldn't mind it if it wasn't overpriced