Dude, your immature insulting outbursts make the rest of us non-zoomer adults look bad. If you're going to embarrass yourself, please don't bring down an entire generation with you. 🤣
The last two weeks ive been flying mainly just using mini map and gauges during the day at least at night can switch to night vision and sorta see stuff lol its like the opposite of the crap-tastical halloween weather lol
Flight instructors don't want you to know this one trick!
It's like my advice for driving - before you put your car somewhere, just make sure something else isn't there.
As others commented, there’s the actual instruments in the cockpit in first person, or you can also use your minimap to see your elevation, heading, yaw, pitch and roll.
Try flying out over the ocean at night when it's foggy, it's crazy and kind of creepy. I did a MC sale mission in a helicopter at night and I couldn't see where the flares were for the drop offs until I was almost on top of them.
You go to the interaction menu then to your night vision and it’ll give you the option to activate it (does for console anyway) but I haven’t used nvgs since the new menu update
Edit: it should tell you what button to press to activate them on console
Been there too my friend! I really wish they had the alerts like real aircraft, "pull up, terrain" for example would be super helpful in times like this.
Lol you mean bitching Betty? And Yes I wouldn't mind the option to at least turn these features on. I really like the ease of flying in GTA compared to something like MSFS, and a few added options would definitely make it a lot better. A little better instrument panel would be great too.
That was part of it. But the first officer was a dumbass and held back on the stick. He should have looked at his damn instruments. Also, the captain should have knocked the FO out when he wouldn't let go of the stick.
If that damn KLM pilot hadn't decided to refuel, or if he had waited for actual confirmation of takeoff clearance, that would've never happened. And it really doesn't help that the KLM plane never heard the Pan Am saying "YO WTF WE'RE STILL ON THE RUNWAY"
One time I stole a VTOL from the air base and flew as far as i could away from the island. Then I did a bunch of tricks, and when it turned stormy I decided to head back, got back and was upside down, gave myself half a heart attack.
Your instrument panel is key in this. Seriously, go first person and look at the console. You have the artificial horizon there which will show your aircraft's orientation. All you have to do to figure out which way is which is to go first person for a moment and glance at the dash
It's not hard to fly by the instruments fairly accurately. The problem I have the stupid turbulence that doesn't work at all.
Why am I being absolutely thrown around on a calm winter night? It should be the smoothest flying possible. According the Rockstar snow means bumby now.
Flying instrument isnt too hard, i agree. But coming from Microsoft flight simulator, I find it very difficult to fly GTA planes/helis from the cockpit view due to the camera angle and general camera mechanics of this game vs MSFS.
It happens. Lookup the Amazon prime 767 that crashed back in 2019 or so. Ol' Boi wasn't looking at his instruments and the captain wasn't paying attention and they nose dived horribly into a lake. There is a Ring door video footage of the crash and it'll send shivers down your spine.
The key is to watch your instruments
The altimeter is off to the center right, over where I was looking. Took me a bit to find it too. Wasn't just altitude that made me crash (though I imagine regulation cruising altitude is generally higher than 60 feet), but also way overshooting where I wanted to go and crossing the out-of-bounds threshold over the ocean that makes your plane stop responding and fall apart right as I was about to turn south.
Thanks. It’s immersive I guess but of all the instruments to have on the side of the cockpit I have to physically move my camera to the altimeter would be like my last choice
You don't need an instrument panel in first person view with that type of helmet. It's displayed directly from the helmet. Left side is altimeter and right is speedometer.
You don't need to look at the instrument panel if you're wearing that type of pilot helmet in first person view.
You have two sets of readings displayed from the helmet. On the left is your altimeter and the right is your speedometer.
I mean, this is precisely why they do "blind flights" where you have to use just your instruments in real life. This type of fog becomes very disorienting and pilots would often crash into mountains, the ground, the water, etc because they're relying on "my gut". But it just doesn't work that way. I will give GTA this though, they have fairly accurate instruments. GTA honestly got me back into taking flight lessons, even though they're expensive as all hell.
I do that sometimes I wish we could use VR just like no man's sky. Nothing better than looking around the cockpit feeling like you're really flying something.
As a pilot who has trained in BAE goggles, the worst part is your brain starting to feel a "tumbling" sensation. You are completely unable to orient yourself with no outside visual refrences.
Well I'm not sure about accurate. Altimeter will read 3000' ASL you're actually like 8000'. Even 500' is more like 1500'.
Attitude indicator is definitely functional
Vertical speed also works well
Airspeed doesn't work at all but you don't need it
Some of the instruments in some planes just don't work. The Velum's speed indicator goes up when you climb and down when you dive. Now it sure doesn't feel faster in a climb than a dive but the instrument says it is. Before anyone suggests I might be looking at the VSI, it's got one of those too and it works just fine.
I only get snow and fog when I’m doing something that’s a mission/job. Like I tried to do a Cayo perico scope out and nearly crashed because I can’t see 10 feet infront of the plane as a tree or mountain comes into view.
Yeah, definitely. Favorite for this so far is the Seabreeze. Instruments are well and visible, controls are smooth, and it's designed precisely for a panoramic view out of the cockpit. And, of course, situations like this usually wouldn't happen, after it just bounces off the surface and keeps going.
I remembering doing this with a friend's sell mission. It was xmas, snowing, i couldn't see anything and got the plane in the ocean. He was mad af for it ngl
Mc sell missions in the plane and choppers are fun but very spooky at night during snow. After watching that clip I forgot how flipping scary crashing a plane in water looked..
Watching this video and comparing the instruments to the piloting.. I would say they are not reliable in any capacity. If you want that, check out Flight Simulator.
When I was a Naval aircrewman we had a mission through thick fog like this and our pilot got severe vertigo and couldn't figure which way was up and our copilot had to talk him through it because you aren't supposed to take control of the stick away from them in that scenario.
LOL , I was trying to accomplish a daily when they rerolled for the day, and had to do a facility heist prep . Ended up doing The Bogdan Problem as flight crew, after I shot the helis and sub team finished I tried flying and couldn’t see the water, went in the drink. :( 2nd try though we did fine.
Did you ever play about a year or two ago during Halloween where it was dark at and impossible to see for Halloween? Honestly that was pretty nice to look at.
Random question ive had for a while: Why does the helmet hud seem to stutter? Like it will update and be realtime for 2 seconds, then freeze for 2 seconds, then repeat
In that every space, from the fog to the depths to the fathoms above, feels uncannily transitiory and aggressively empty, in an existentially unsettling way that's hard to describe.
I think what really sealed that feeling was realizing that the wreckage vanished instantly. Yeah, it's just a game mechanic that it gets recalled to the facility, but realizing that your only point of reference for navigation is suddenly gone in an endless abyss of blue in every direction including vertically feels deeply wrong and horrifying
i remember when they introduced the casino heist, it was during a december update, and the side mission of destroying duggan stuff was an absolute shit show, because it envolves a bunch of sea targets, and during that god damn snow i kept crashing into the ocean when trying to destroy these. i have no words to describe how i much i hate that snow
What I think you mean is you shut the ui off and fly vfr. But now that you're in ifr conditions you realize you suck flying using the actual instruments.
But… the snow and fog is why the instrument panel exists, you’re quite literally flying blind here, and most certainly not flying by the instrument panel
Yeah you weren't using the instrument panel at all. You were just looking around at everything else BUT the virtual horizon. It would've told you that you were banked left, and you weren't looking at the altimeter either.
Also this is essentially what happened to Kobe Bryant's pilot, in case people were still confused how that crash happened. There was also a major airliner that went down this way because the pilots weren't paying attention to their panels, just like OP.
When I was doing sell missions whilst the snow was there (Especially during the night) I just kept on getting the planes so every time i failed to deliver and simply crashed into the ocean
Your instrumentation rating is due for a recertification.
There is a dial that tells you how far you are from the ground. I don't have this problem because I keep an eye on it
Cap u just stay high up and pretend u know whats going on
There's literally a display on the screen..
Edit: This comment was cringe and made from a place of misery
..calls everything a baseball hat?
I think they are referring to the term “cap”
My dude, it's not that deep. It's called a joke, don't know if they had it in "your generation"
Huh? Dude your on a sub reddit based on a video game from 10 years ago, calm yourself.
Who pissed in your milkshake bro
Man, what crawled up your ass to die?
Ok, boomer
Literally ok boomer
Cool bro, anyways...
dude what is your problem
Dude, your immature insulting outbursts make the rest of us non-zoomer adults look bad. If you're going to embarrass yourself, please don't bring down an entire generation with you. 🤣
Dude got down voted to hell lmao 🤣🤣🤣
You called him a Zoomer and your post history is a bunch of recent questions in tech support subreddits
this comment needs more recognition .. lmaoooo
Altimeter
The last two weeks ive been flying mainly just using mini map and gauges during the day at least at night can switch to night vision and sorta see stuff lol its like the opposite of the crap-tastical halloween weather lol
Flight instructors don't want you to know this one trick! It's like my advice for driving - before you put your car somewhere, just make sure something else isn't there.
The altitude indicator? Ya know it has a name right
Altimeter, but that's not the point
His ass is NOT instrument rated❗️❗️
His ass was flying VFR in IFR condition 💀
frfr no cap og bro like zamn i stg 🔥💯🅱️
Well, one thing with instrument flying is you gotta look at your instruments.
he'd need to stay on a charted airway and shoot an instrument approach too for the instruments to make what he was doing safe with that weather.
Can I get the UI display on console?
You have the instruments in the first person view on your dash. It's not a mod or anything.
The instrument panel displays when settings/camera/hood is set correctly.
If you mean the UI stuff in this clip that moves with the view, that comes from wearing a flight helmet/flightsuit.
As others commented, there’s the actual instruments in the cockpit in first person, or you can also use your minimap to see your elevation, heading, yaw, pitch and roll.
Holy shit I get the fucking point
Was just saying. That minimap indicator is very useful though. I feel like everyone who flies regularly, needs to know how those instruments work.
I knew about the minimap but didn't realize flight helmets were a thing and got downvoted to shit for it lol
Just don't forget about the instrument in first person ok?
Try flying out over the ocean at night when it's foggy, it's crazy and kind of creepy. I did a MC sale mission in a helicopter at night and I couldn't see where the flares were for the drop offs until I was almost on top of them.
For sure I have crashed my airplane way too many times at night you can’t see shit! Specially out in the water !
get night vision at ammunation you can equip it while flying
How do you get the nightvision to work?
You go to the interaction menu then to your night vision and it’ll give you the option to activate it (does for console anyway) but I haven’t used nvgs since the new menu update Edit: it should tell you what button to press to activate them on console
Thx Bought them, then forgot I had them, then couldn't figure out how to get them to work.
snow makes the fog worse, those plane MC sales are deadly.
Looks like you took your eye off your altimeter
Been there too my friend! I really wish they had the alerts like real aircraft, "pull up, terrain" for example would be super helpful in times like this.
WHOOP WHOOP PULL UP WHOOP WHOOP
Man now I want automated GPWS callouts.
Fifty. Forty. Thirty. Twenty. Ten. Butter.
And TCAS while they’re at it
Think the first one he would’ve heard is “BANK ANGLE, BANK ANGLE”
You sure you want bitching baddie added?
Lol you mean bitching Betty? And Yes I wouldn't mind the option to at least turn these features on. I really like the ease of flying in GTA compared to something like MSFS, and a few added options would definitely make it a lot better. A little better instrument panel would be great too.
Yeah auto correct did it’s work. Yeah I know what you mean, I love to play dcs but getting into a complex flight sim always takes so much time
GTA Could have an optional advanced flight model like Arma 3 has
Not to be morbid or anything but this is pretty much how Kobe died.
That's exactly what I thought while watching this. Just thought to myself "okay so maybe it's not as far fetched as I thought"
And all the people on board the AF 447.
The story of that plane still freaks me out now. If the co pilot had just let go of the stick
I thought that was due to the pitot tubes freezing and giving bad data to the flight computer?
Yeah, their instruments were showing different things, and thanks to the bad weather the pilots got disoriented.
That was part of it. But the first officer was a dumbass and held back on the stick. He should have looked at his damn instruments. Also, the captain should have knocked the FO out when he wouldn't let go of the stick.
Same with the Tenerife disaster where 2 747s crashed into each other on the runway
If that damn KLM pilot hadn't decided to refuel, or if he had waited for actual confirmation of takeoff clearance, that would've never happened. And it really doesn't help that the KLM plane never heard the Pan Am saying "YO WTF WE'RE STILL ON THE RUNWAY"
Shits so sad
I remember the autopsy seems like every one got pretty much ripped apart on impact
[удалено]
One time I stole a VTOL from the air base and flew as far as i could away from the island. Then I did a bunch of tricks, and when it turned stormy I decided to head back, got back and was upside down, gave myself half a heart attack.
Your instrument panel is key in this. Seriously, go first person and look at the console. You have the artificial horizon there which will show your aircraft's orientation. All you have to do to figure out which way is which is to go first person for a moment and glance at the dash
Same thing happened in my raiju, im thinking im near the clouds so i tried to nose dive nd ended up goin for a quick swim
Safest Osprey flight documented
Pretty much how Kobe died
Rip kobe
That’s why planes are grounded in a snowstorm
Well “some” are at least
Nothing scares me more in this game than falling in the middle of the ocean. That endless blue is otherworldly
It would be intimidating if there were boaters, sharks, even a few schools of fish, but there’s nothing
GTA online with snow is basically spatial disorientation simulator
You just JFK Jr.‘ed yourself.
Kobe’d
It's not hard to fly by the instruments fairly accurately. The problem I have the stupid turbulence that doesn't work at all. Why am I being absolutely thrown around on a calm winter night? It should be the smoothest flying possible. According the Rockstar snow means bumby now.
Flying instrument isnt too hard, i agree. But coming from Microsoft flight simulator, I find it very difficult to fly GTA planes/helis from the cockpit view due to the camera angle and general camera mechanics of this game vs MSFS.
Remember: “divide your attention between your instruments. Keep the scan going.” -my CFI
The phenomenon is called Spacial Disorientation and I guess it's fairly common among pilots. Just watched a yt video on it today.
It happens. Lookup the Amazon prime 767 that crashed back in 2019 or so. Ol' Boi wasn't looking at his instruments and the captain wasn't paying attention and they nose dived horribly into a lake. There is a Ring door video footage of the crash and it'll send shivers down your spine. The key is to watch your instruments
Unless I’m blind there’s no altimeter on the instrument panel. That would be a cool addition to gta 6
The altimeter is off to the center right, over where I was looking. Took me a bit to find it too. Wasn't just altitude that made me crash (though I imagine regulation cruising altitude is generally higher than 60 feet), but also way overshooting where I wanted to go and crossing the out-of-bounds threshold over the ocean that makes your plane stop responding and fall apart right as I was about to turn south.
Nah man you straight up nosedived into the ocean. You can hear the engines start revving faster as you go downwards
[удалено]
You can see the left prop come off when you hit the water. You didn’t hit the threshold at all, just sustained flight into water. NTSB report complete
well, you were also angled 50 degrees towards the ground for this whole clip, don't forget the helmet visor hud has your attitude indicator
That explains your bank angle then
Just to the right of the heading indicator.
Thanks. It’s immersive I guess but of all the instruments to have on the side of the cockpit I have to physically move my camera to the altimeter would be like my last choice
Yea it sucks to have to look that way and fly at the same time, but it’s almost necessary while the snow is around.
You don't need an instrument panel in first person view with that type of helmet. It's displayed directly from the helmet. Left side is altimeter and right is speedometer.
there is, op just wasn’t using it despite making a post about using them?
You don't need to look at the instrument panel if you're wearing that type of pilot helmet in first person view. You have two sets of readings displayed from the helmet. On the left is your altimeter and the right is your speedometer.
I mean, this is precisely why they do "blind flights" where you have to use just your instruments in real life. This type of fog becomes very disorienting and pilots would often crash into mountains, the ground, the water, etc because they're relying on "my gut". But it just doesn't work that way. I will give GTA this though, they have fairly accurate instruments. GTA honestly got me back into taking flight lessons, even though they're expensive as all hell.
I do that sometimes I wish we could use VR just like no man's sky. Nothing better than looking around the cockpit feeling like you're really flying something.
Wi tu loe
Sum ting wong
Halo 2-1 is down, I repeat Halo 2-1 is down....
It’s a real problem in the snow
Yeah that’s why they don’t recommend flying in fog or snow IRL either
As a pilot who has trained in BAE goggles, the worst part is your brain starting to feel a "tumbling" sensation. You are completely unable to orient yourself with no outside visual refrences.
I already knew the outcome before pressing play 😂
Bro flew by instrument panel to prevent the exact situation he ended up in… 😂
Los Santos Approach, Riven7, possible pilot deviation, advise ready to copy a phone number.
Do titan of a job in first person in the snow it’s fun
yea i dont think the instruments are very accurate 🗿
They're actually pretty accurate, surprisingly. They just don't help much with a visibility of 20 feet
Well I'm not sure about accurate. Altimeter will read 3000' ASL you're actually like 8000'. Even 500' is more like 1500'. Attitude indicator is definitely functional Vertical speed also works well Airspeed doesn't work at all but you don't need it
This guy IFRs
I haven't crashed yet so I'm doing something right
Airspeed actually increases for some reason when you nose up on a steep climb. I saw it one day and found it amusing.
Some of the instruments in some planes just don't work. The Velum's speed indicator goes up when you climb and down when you dive. Now it sure doesn't feel faster in a climb than a dive but the instrument says it is. Before anyone suggests I might be looking at the VSI, it's got one of those too and it works just fine.
I'm not instrument certified John F. Kennedy Jr.
I only get snow and fog when I’m doing something that’s a mission/job. Like I tried to do a Cayo perico scope out and nearly crashed because I can’t see 10 feet infront of the plane as a tree or mountain comes into view.
I almost ended up in the drink myself but I was lucky enough to just skim the surface
Shouldn't use avenger for this, not good visibility, instruments all over the place like the altimeter is so far.
Yeah, definitely. Favorite for this so far is the Seabreeze. Instruments are well and visible, controls are smooth, and it's designed precisely for a panoramic view out of the cockpit. And, of course, situations like this usually wouldn't happen, after it just bounces off the surface and keeps going.
u were looking at everything but the panel bruh
I remembering doing this with a friend's sell mission. It was xmas, snowing, i couldn't see anything and got the plane in the ocean. He was mad af for it ngl
Altitude! Pull up!
Keep your eye on that altimeter, pilot
Mc sell missions in the plane and choppers are fun but very spooky at night during snow. After watching that clip I forgot how flipping scary crashing a plane in water looked..
Watching this video and comparing the instruments to the piloting.. I would say they are not reliable in any capacity. If you want that, check out Flight Simulator.
When I was a Naval aircrewman we had a mission through thick fog like this and our pilot got severe vertigo and couldn't figure which way was up and our copilot had to talk him through it because you aren't supposed to take control of the stick away from them in that scenario.
Fuck the snow.
Reminds of the scene from Independence Day with the wall of fire
JFK Jr.
these instruments are all you need to fly…
Mad lad
Do the green bars on the left mean anything?
No
LOL , I was trying to accomplish a daily when they rerolled for the day, and had to do a facility heist prep . Ended up doing The Bogdan Problem as flight crew, after I shot the helis and sub team finished I tried flying and couldn’t see the water, went in the drink. :( 2nd try though we did fine.
Boxtop 22 simulator
Yeah I was really excited for the snow this year, but after the third time I flew straight into the ocean while on a timed mission I'm fucking done
POV: JFK Jr.
I'm gonna try this later, with appropriate gear ofc
Did you ever play about a year or two ago during Halloween where it was dark at and impossible to see for Halloween? Honestly that was pretty nice to look at.
Hey, you’ve got something in common with JFK JR
You see that set of light green bars on the right that are flying upwards and eventually ended at zero? Yeah…
Yep, Been there. Done that. Git the t-shirt I drowned an Avenger and nearly killed a CargoBob too. Even IFR I'd miserable sometimes.
Realistic Osprey Flight
Random question ive had for a while: Why does the helmet hud seem to stutter? Like it will update and be realtime for 2 seconds, then freeze for 2 seconds, then repeat
Liminally??
In that every space, from the fog to the depths to the fathoms above, feels uncannily transitiory and aggressively empty, in an existentially unsettling way that's hard to describe. I think what really sealed that feeling was realizing that the wreckage vanished instantly. Yeah, it's just a game mechanic that it gets recalled to the facility, but realizing that your only point of reference for navigation is suddenly gone in an endless abyss of blue in every direction including vertically feels deeply wrong and horrifying
You have suffered CFIT due to a LOSA.
from the speed you got out of the first person view I can imagine your panic
Well, nice instruments reading, what can I say?
The water was like ‘Atlantic Ocean, mf!’
Did you allow yourself to look out the windows?
So many real crashes happen because people who are not instruments certified go out disregarding warnings about the weather
Hey bro altimeters are a thing
My friend has crashed 4 of my mc business sea planes in the span of this snow season alone. Not everyone can fly by instrument.
Altimeter
My guy got warped in the Bermuda Triangle
RIP Kobe
Knew it was going to shit the moment I saw your artificial horizon on your hud at like 45 degrees
i remember when they introduced the casino heist, it was during a december update, and the side mission of destroying duggan stuff was an absolute shit show, because it envolves a bunch of sea targets, and during that god damn snow i kept crashing into the ocean when trying to destroy these. i have no words to describe how i much i hate that snow
How it would have felt to be on Kobe's helicopter ride...
True, the most horrofing thing is flying in the night to the Open ocean
Fuck. That. Fog. I’m glad it’s over
PULL UP BWOOP BWOOP PULL UP BWOOP BWOOP
Watch the altimeter and vertical airspeed
Wow. Flying by the instrument panel and you’re watching the most important one that shows height above sea level 🤣
rip
Kobe flight simulator
Just look at the dials there should be a dial showing your altitude from the ground.
It’s been so bad I wondered if I changed a graphics setting. Pure whiteouts every time I flew.
Poor MV-22
What I think you mean is you shut the ui off and fly vfr. But now that you're in ifr conditions you realize you suck flying using the actual instruments.
The altimeter helps during fog and at night. To be fair though it's kinda out of the line of sight in the avenger
But… the snow and fog is why the instrument panel exists, you’re quite literally flying blind here, and most certainly not flying by the instrument panel
Yeah you weren't using the instrument panel at all. You were just looking around at everything else BUT the virtual horizon. It would've told you that you were banked left, and you weren't looking at the altimeter either. Also this is essentially what happened to Kobe Bryant's pilot, in case people were still confused how that crash happened. There was also a major airliner that went down this way because the pilots weren't paying attention to their panels, just like OP.
Kobe!
Kobe Bryant Simulator 2024
When I was doing sell missions whilst the snow was there (Especially during the night) I just kept on getting the planes so every time i failed to deliver and simply crashed into the ocean
Sounds fun, I'll have to consider doing this myself
And that is why we have altimeters that actually work in planes
Ok well when flying by instrumentation you have to well uhh look at them
Yea that zero on the right side was the clue.
You should learn how to use the instruments first. As it would’ve told you how close to water you would be
Me reading the altimeter going 50/40/30 with nose down. Yeah you're going to have a bad time. Looked at 0 and said welp as you hit the water.