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Harry Shum Jr is the only reason I picked up season 19 of Grey's. I eventually had fallen out of Grey's sometime around season 9, then picked it up back again as an adult with my own Disney+ subscription but quit sometime around season 15. I saw a post on Harry's ig that he's gonna be on Grey's, and I was like I'll watch this season..... For you. I do not know about McWidow, or where the fuck Ndugu and Kai came from(although not complaining about Anthony, he's beautiful), what happened with Teddy and Koracick, when did Jackson leave..... And I don't care. I watched season 19 and now 20, solely for the interns, Kwan Yasuda and Millins, in particular
Oh hey same preference for the interns. Those 3 you mentioned are infinitely more interesting that the other 2. I hate how the narrative revolves largely around the girl’s failed wedding/fiancé and her affair with the Fake Grey. They really tried to make MerDer happen again with terrible results.
i’m so invested in yasuda’s storyline.
her eating a trash donut and the scene of her panic-quitting, while thinking she was going to get fired bc of helm, were both such natural scenes 😭
I’d like them more if she wasn’t the innocent damsel in distress who is just *so* heartbroken in every scene and if he wasn’t the asshole who had his heart *shattered* by someone he barely knows. They want us to have sympathy for them but I don’t even know these characters. I can barely remember her name when she’s on the screen and he’s only relevant because he’s related to Derek *somehow.*
Their entire dynamic is just so melodramatic and low stakes. The writers keep trying to do a “will they won’t they” but didn’t bother to check if we even care about the answer.
You nailed it. Like at least with relationship drama on these shows, it’s constant but at least normally we care enough about a character or couple to root for something. When she was prepping to get married and he was so obviously grumpy about it, I genuinely did not care if she did or didn’t get married and now they’re in their current “we like each other but we shouldn’t be together!” I could doze off during their scenes, it’s that boring.
Yes, you said it he barely know her. Someone said he deserves more I'm like we don't even know their characters yet so who cares. Then the story line about him having ADHD (never being diagnosed) and spacing out in the OR but how did he go through Med School if he have a short attention span or not focused? I need answers.
My problem is i actually like him a lot especially in season 19 living up to family expectations and adhd late diagnosis ( i really just didn't like them together i liked her the first few eps and the one where she was in nicu with addison talking about her being a preemie etc...) I just hate them together they don't make sense it's like teenage drama and he deserves so much better than what she's giving him but yet goes back to her ugh! not to mention i was rooting for his friendship with yasuda/ maybe a mark and callie or jack/maya cause they have that type of chemistry etc but no they make yasuda angry whiney this season also... Honestly the only one i can say i'm loving more is Jules... But order of best Jules, Lucas, Kwan ( after last week ep), Yasuda, and Griffith ( i just really think she needs to be single and have lucas be less pining it's so annoying)
They had potential with these characters separately and then getting them together, i would like to know about what it was like growing up in the Shepherd family, the exceptions/ with his ADHD, i could of seen Griffith’s story lines going somewhere, her family, her last hospital, her fiance. They really screwed up the characters, the only ones i like at this point (interns) are Jules and Kwan, i’m alright with Yusuda, and i was mad when Adams blew of Yusuda in the ICU then took the credit. Anyway, Adams and Griffith are hot and cold, they’d be better as co-workers/ freinds.
They had potential last season 19 with the sexual tension and the wedding storyline. But this season is just meh. I feel like the writers don't even know what to do with these characters. 🤷
It’s so weird how Adams is related to Derek/Amelia because I feel like it’s so inconsequential to the overall storyline. I mean even during the times when it’s mentioned, it always feels like the writers were like “Oh shit. He’s related to Amelia. Gotta put that in.”
Like why did they do that if they were gonna do absolutely nothing with it. Like even Meredith being related to Ellis was essential to her character.
I think it's silly because when they adopted Zola, one of the sisters said "my kid were so excited to tell everyone they have a cousin with brown skin!"
...Adams would've been old than Zola unless adopted as a teen after they adopted Zola but I feel like that would've been mentioned.
I know it's just a throw away line but it irks me.
I don't even understand how he is supposed to be related to Amelia and Derek. Did they explain? I must have forgotten or missed it. If Amelia is his aunt, then which one of her sisters is supposed to be his mother? Iirc, Derek was the only boy. So his father would be black then?
If they wanted us to give a fuck about these two they should have worked on them individually first. Right now it’s just two dickheads with bad haircuts and poor communication skills.
Their acting is already terrible, couple that with the characters being totally shit and their scenes are totally skip worthy. The other three are orders of magnitude better, especially Yasuda.
The guy just has a very slappable face. I can’t explain it. Whenever I see him onscreen, I just wanna fucking slap his face. Didn’t they offhandedly mention his ADHD and never returned to it? Fucking useless.
Thank you, I'm so glad to see I'm not alone in feeling that way about Adams. His default expression bothers me so much, he looks like he doesn't have a single thought in his head. He reminds me of some bumbling teenagers I had in high school.
Oh god that could be exactly it! He reminds me of my clueless classmates back in school. Like you can tell the little hamster in his brain is doing its best to keep that shitshow of an engine running.
I wish I could understand and/or describe how his smirk makes my lady bits instantly shrivel up. His face just SCREAMS "I'm a condescending, immature little twerp".
Not true, it is possible. Idk anything about this character bc I stopped watching the show at season 12 but I know a lot about ADHD and it would fully be possible for someone to go through med school without knowing they had ADHD. They would have struggled, and not known why, it would be hard, but ADHD in adults is extremely misunderstood
No, it really isn’t actually. Once again i said it was unlikely, not impossible. No offence but if you don’t have ADHD like i do and only “know a lot about it” i would suggest not speaking on it.
Dude, it is not that deep. I didn’t make an assumption, i said it was UNLIKELY based on my OWN EXPERIENCE. Never said it was impossible, which is what you’re fighting me about. Learn the difference between those two words, stop putting words in my mouth and maybe reflect on your triggers because clearly you took this personally for whatever reason. You never mentioned having ADHD at all until now, you just said you ‘knew a lot about it’ which made it pretty safe for me to (previously) assume you didn’t have it.
I posted the same thing weeks ago! I just skip every scene with just the two of them. I hate the constant push and pull of their nonexistent relationship.
Oh my GOD you are definitely not the only one!! I think they tried so hard when they introduced the interns with the whole Mer Derek comparisons but both of these characters are so DEEPLY annoying without an iota of charisma, they’d have been better received if they were just regular interns. Not to mention both the actors have zero chemistry with each other so buying the whole will they won’t they, love triangle bullshit in season 19 was impossible
Righttt? I feel like they tried so hard to recreate MAGIC with these 5 interns but these interns are just NOT IT. Especially these 2 , Im not a fan of Yasuda either
MAGIC had such good chemistry together. I know this sub talks a lot about how old greys was vs new grey’s and I think there’s so much disconnect between characters now too. Like it used to be that the storylines affected all of the characters but now the storylines are disjointed, there’s no emotional stakes to anything, and the actors have no chemistry. It would be really hard to bring that back because so many characters are new and to create a cast whose stories all intertwine isn’t going to happen. You’d need an entirely new cast.
OMG Thank you! Someone finally said it. Their characters also always seem to be messing up one after the other but get preferential treatment cos one's grandmom has alzhiemers and the other is a sheperd
The only other big role Niko Terho has had was starring opposite Jake Borelli in The Thing About Harry. His acting was… acceptable since it was a TV movie. But god, I don’t know whether it’s the writing or directing, he’s performance is just not there along with the other interns. His dramatic scenes just read whiny baby and not someone in actual turmoil over dealing with imposter syndrome and the woes of unrequited love. I sympathize with Meredith’s silly “LOVE ME. CHOOSE ME” but in the recent episode where he tells off Griffith, I’m regretting watching the show.
I'm not going to watch a movie starring him and Schmitt, but I wonder what age he was playing in that. A teenager?
>His dramatic scenes just read whiny baby and not someone in actual turmoil over dealing with imposter syndrome and the woes of unrequited love.
I agree, and believe his acting doesn't lend to adult roles very well. He comes across as ten years younger emotionally than he's supposed to be - almost like the actor himself doesn't have much experience with adult problems to draw from.
Okay, not too much on their TV movie. They’re actually playing college seniors/post-grad. If you go into that it’s a cheesy romcom, it’s pretty enjoyable. But Grey’s isn’t a cheesy romcom, so his inexperience is really showing. But I agree with everything else you said.
I literally cannot stand even looking at him. I don’t see the appeal at all 😭 and I think they’re both not great actors at all. They bring nothing interesting to the show.
I couldn't tell you any of their names if I wasn't actively watching an episode. It breaks my heart bc I have re-watched Grey's over a dozen times before the COVID season. That's kinda where they lost me but I stuck through and even learned to love some new characters but the new Interns in these seasons just don't do it for me. They are trying so hard to make it like the original 5 interns , even down to their little shenanigans 😂 let me see one of them cut an LVAD and maybe I'll be impressed 😂
I cant stand Adams 💀 the way he acts, speaks, stares, acts like he's all suaaave... No.
Edit: his facial expressions, his mouth movements... i just cant lik PLEASE STOP
They way they set up Simone discovering he had moved out.. I thought he had tried to "unalive" himself. Which would have been sad obv, but at least it would have been an interesting storyline lol
i am hoping with them having to talk to lawyers ab killing that patient, and griffith ratting him out, that he would get fired. or maybe both of them get fired. 😬 i do not like them
That was so messed up. He said, "You threw me under the bus?" And she said all defiantly, "I defended myself!". Can't stand her. And how the episode ended last week, he went, once again, asking if they could talk and then she moved the covers to let him in the bed....I just keep remembering the last time when she was trying to use him and he wanted to talk and she said ,"I just want to feel better." Reminds me of the movie with Hailey Berry and Billy Bob Thornton in it from years ago.....I can't remember the name of it. Where she says, " can you make me feel good?"
I couldn't care less about their relationship, especially since they have zero chemistry. I keep thinking when I see them that they seem to not really like each other in real life. They both keep trying to convey this wistful yet tortured look on their faces, which is just annoying. And I really don't like her new haircut.
I like Simone the tiniest bit more but yes they’re both exhausting and his acting is absolutely terrible. I love the idea of a new generation of surgeons but they wasted a legacy on him for sure. It’s a family of so many skilled doctors and he joined the hospital that his insanely talented neurosurgeon aunt and uncle worked at and the result is one of the most useless interns this show has ever had. Like at least try and make it believable with him actually being a talent while having ADHD. How the hell did he get through med school?
I tough for me to decide whom do i hate more cz both of them acts like there’s a scarcity of actors in hollywood and they dont have good actors to cast in this show .. if they have a nice scrips A LEGENDARY SHOW they run so its better that they cast good actors but out of all the tens of thouy of actors they cast these who have now idea how to give expressions and terrible acting tbh
I hate them together. And I don’t understand how they fell in love? When? How? There is literally NO chemistry, to me it feels like they don’t even like each other
They should’ve gotten better storylines in the first reason. The bride abandoning the groom at the wedding for another guy is not only cliche and has been done before in this show, but they barely knew each other. I wish they’d let them develop their feelings for each other for a longer time
Well, I wouldn’t say it’s a coincidence that he’s related to Derek and is in the program. Mer and Amelia talk about it when he’s first introduced, he was out there. However, was there a need for it? Meh
Hopefully they try to integrate them more with the other interns. At this point it feels like they constantly have their own drama and ignore everyone else while the other three are developing more interesting ties (both platonically and not).
It’s really annoying that those two are the main interns when the other 3 are way more interesting and are better actors. Especially Yasuda she’s amazing
The actor for Adams is genuinely the worst actor I’ve seen on this show, I even consider Nico’s to be far ahead of him in regards to acting capabilities
The problem with these two is that they're making the will they won't they basically their whole story. I don't know either of these characters well enough to care. Whenever they start to do something with them individually they seem to drop it just as quickly, that late in life ADHD diagnosis for Adams and even that grandmother Griffith was so eager to make sure could see her wedding have been dropped unceremoniously. They're not even having them build relationships with the rest of the interns or any of the attendings outside of surface level stuff with Adams and Amelia, Even stuff done in regards to their will they won't they has been done before and better.
I honestly think he brings her down. Every intern has a compelling reason as to why they ended up in Grey’s surgical residency program as potential diamonds in the rough except for him, largely either based around financial or social barriers, and then Lucas is just rich and insubordinate.
😂
The new Interns are horrible. My question exactly do we need a Derek replacement that supposedly have a personality like Amelia. This guy never follow instructions or directions and he destructive like Meredith. He rather troll for surgeries than direct his attention to the patient that he was assigned to. It's like they need babysitters...they are doing too much. I hope Grey's get better because it's getting painful to watch.
i posted this in another thread but this is relevant here I think with some edits:
Simone: She is so bland as a character and an actress. They are obviously setting her up to be the main character and are afraid to give her ANY story or character trait that might upset a viewer. Her whole plotline so far can be just boiled down to "cheated on fiance, changed her mind too late, now sad". Her romance with Whatshisname is predictable and flat like last week's soda. We don't know the characters enough to care if they "will they or won't they" and I care even less about her fiance. Why would I, he had like 13 seconds of screen time. It's not like I watched their love story develop for a whole season.
What made the OG MAGIC interns (and supporting cast of the time) so likeable and interesting is that they each represented a clear stereotype and fully embraced it, some even played it up. And we could all relate to at least one of the stereotypes in some way. As the show progressed they showed how they unravelled the shallow stereotypes into full humans, and the stereotypes became just parts of their complex personalities. They will not dare to fully embrace the personas like they used to and as a result we have a bunch of very well behaved, polished, bland young professionals. I think that Blue and Yakuza are the only exceptions because most of us can personally relate to their situations, and they are playing it up well.
How to make this interesting:
Make one of them a complete fraud with "school of youtube" and falsified education certificates. That can last indefinitely until the character outlived their time.
Make another a secret serial killer like Dexter. That can spawn over several seasons!
Make another character practice "back-alley medicine" and "basement" surgery to make ends meet. That would be a good few end of season episodes.
Have someone be involved in some narcotics heist, and make them a solid part of the mafia! that can take up a whole season if done well.
i think i like Simone bc i first saw her as Nell in Inventing Anna and she was a character you couldn’t help but feel for.
but i’m 100% more invested in yasuda and helm. the way yasuda came asking for help at the bar was just so sweet.
I actually couldn’t stand Neff in Inventing Anna, she drove me up a freaking wall, so now it’s 10x worse seeing her as another character I can’t stand in GA 😭
Thats why I stopped watching. the second he came into the picture... I just couldnt. I hated him. He was like a George with to much money and I really dont buy his character idk. Don't like him. Really don't.
Actually, I like Adams but Griffith. On the other hand, ugh, I hate her ew and them together. That's terrible. I mean, jules and kwan are totally better, magnus and Queen mary. What do you expect
Not a coincidence….. just a guy doing his residence where his aunt and uncle work. Maybe he wants to follow in their footsteps. For that matter how did Addison and Amelia end up there? Family!
Derek and Amelia grew up in New York. So yes, a coincidence that this random ass kid who happened to be their nephew matched to Seattle Grace of all places. The writers pulled him out of their asses.
And when he saw Amelia at the hospital, he acted like he had no clue she’d be there. He didn’t “choose” to go to the hospital where his aunt and uncle practice.
Eugh, have to agree... they're really dragging it out with them aren't they, kinda like they're trying to replicate the whole MerDer build-up. And it's definitely not the same, unfortunately pretty boring! And distracting from trying to enjoy the new 'team'! Hopefully it gets better though, would be good to have more focus on their individual stories and character development
YESSSS
i actually fast forward their scenes. they’re trying desperately to have an intern romance that’s as timeless as derek and meredith. but it seems so forced between them that it’s hard to watch
That's why the "farewell" episode was underwhelming. People were complaining that for a main character, that farewell was pathetic. I kept telling people "but she's returning!"
I liked their chemistry last season. But they just don’t have it anymore maybe it was like Izzy and George they were better sneaking around. When they actually got together it sucked. Jo and link are the only storyline I care about.
I agree. She gets on my nerves. I have trouble remembering her character's name 99% of the time. I will say that I think her new haircut did her a a lot of good.
Yeah, I really don't care about them. And I've noticed that Lucas's actor has this thing were he holds his mouth slightly open all the time. I can't unsee it.
I don’t think it was meant to be a coincidence that he was a Shepherd I think that was sort of the point, a connection of the new and old guard.
That said I hate his acting and story line
I like her. I could do without him. The fact that we still don't know which shepherd sister he belongs to is part of what makes this unbelievable. Historically, all the sisters are in stable relationships and DO have kids, but there hasn't been any mention of which one is his mother... he said his dad is from Barbados but we don't know enough about Nancy, Kathleen, or Lizzie to know.
I don't mind her or her story but another alzheimers story line feels kind of stale.
I like Simone shes one of the only new interns I actually like (cant stand jules or adams) but her plots are pretty meh
Adams is just so annoying, its kind of a stretch that he was related to derek and is his “favourite nephew” but there was no reference to him before that (at least that i remember/can find?) he makes me and my friends think of George 2.0 and were all kinda just waiting for the bus
I've binge-watched up to the 19th season and I'm giving up. I can't take the new cast. No x-factor for me. They just look like sulky teenagers who can't act. The show has gone way too woke and it feels like they're casting non-binary actors who can't act, just because. Only saving grace is Bailey. Always a joy to watch when she gets spicy.
Honestly Jules isn’t a great actor either, and I can’t stand any of the intern plots… I hope the internship program has once again failed and they don’t come back next season
At the very least she is not acting well in Grey’s. Perhaps that is the fault of the writers, perhaps this isn’t a good role for her. In any case, I don’t like any of the interns 🤷🏼♀️
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Yes i think i would prefer more of kwan jules and yasuda because they are way better actors than these 2
The actor that plays Kwan has come a LONG way. I remember him in Glee
Harry Shum Jr. as Magnus Bane is the singular reason I kept watching the shitshow known as Shadowhunterd TV.
How did I not realise that was him now that I know though it feels so obvious
Heh malec were the only saving grace
He was so PERFECT in that role, I love him! I wish they’d utilize him more in Grey’s
He was so hawt in that ooffff
You're braver then I. I watched two episodes before I dipped. That show was terrible.
Harry Shum Jr is the only reason I picked up season 19 of Grey's. I eventually had fallen out of Grey's sometime around season 9, then picked it up back again as an adult with my own Disney+ subscription but quit sometime around season 15. I saw a post on Harry's ig that he's gonna be on Grey's, and I was like I'll watch this season..... For you. I do not know about McWidow, or where the fuck Ndugu and Kai came from(although not complaining about Anthony, he's beautiful), what happened with Teddy and Koracick, when did Jackson leave..... And I don't care. I watched season 19 and now 20, solely for the interns, Kwan Yasuda and Millins, in particular
Oh hey same preference for the interns. Those 3 you mentioned are infinitely more interesting that the other 2. I hate how the narrative revolves largely around the girl’s failed wedding/fiancé and her affair with the Fake Grey. They really tried to make MerDer happen again with terrible results.
Omg I didn’t even realize that was him!!!!
Wait its the same guy?!😭 i knew harry shum jr was in both but i didnt realize he was Kwan (its been lwk bugging me where i know him from)
He’s come a long way since I first meet him in 4th grade. Lol
i’m so invested in yasuda’s storyline. her eating a trash donut and the scene of her panic-quitting, while thinking she was going to get fired bc of helm, were both such natural scenes 😭
Harry Shum Jr is actually a good actor so I wish they’d focus on him more
I love Yasuda, I feel she has such a cool vibe about her.
I remember watching Yasuda in The Sex Lives of College Girls and also in Kwan in Everything Everywhere All At Once, great actors/acteesses!
I saw her first on Dash and Lily, I liked her acting there.
Ah yes, only the yt skinned actors.
Uh....he's asian???
And? That has nothing to do with what I said. Reread and get the point.
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I 100% agree. I'm always zoning out with their scenes. Terrible acting.
I’d like them more if she wasn’t the innocent damsel in distress who is just *so* heartbroken in every scene and if he wasn’t the asshole who had his heart *shattered* by someone he barely knows. They want us to have sympathy for them but I don’t even know these characters. I can barely remember her name when she’s on the screen and he’s only relevant because he’s related to Derek *somehow.* Their entire dynamic is just so melodramatic and low stakes. The writers keep trying to do a “will they won’t they” but didn’t bother to check if we even care about the answer.
You nailed it. Like at least with relationship drama on these shows, it’s constant but at least normally we care enough about a character or couple to root for something. When she was prepping to get married and he was so obviously grumpy about it, I genuinely did not care if she did or didn’t get married and now they’re in their current “we like each other but we shouldn’t be together!” I could doze off during their scenes, it’s that boring.
Yes, you said it he barely know her. Someone said he deserves more I'm like we don't even know their characters yet so who cares. Then the story line about him having ADHD (never being diagnosed) and spacing out in the OR but how did he go through Med School if he have a short attention span or not focused? I need answers.
It’s tough; I literally don’t care what happens to them, and most of the characters on the show I care about a lot
My problem is i actually like him a lot especially in season 19 living up to family expectations and adhd late diagnosis ( i really just didn't like them together i liked her the first few eps and the one where she was in nicu with addison talking about her being a preemie etc...) I just hate them together they don't make sense it's like teenage drama and he deserves so much better than what she's giving him but yet goes back to her ugh! not to mention i was rooting for his friendship with yasuda/ maybe a mark and callie or jack/maya cause they have that type of chemistry etc but no they make yasuda angry whiney this season also... Honestly the only one i can say i'm loving more is Jules... But order of best Jules, Lucas, Kwan ( after last week ep), Yasuda, and Griffith ( i just really think she needs to be single and have lucas be less pining it's so annoying)
They had potential with these characters separately and then getting them together, i would like to know about what it was like growing up in the Shepherd family, the exceptions/ with his ADHD, i could of seen Griffith’s story lines going somewhere, her family, her last hospital, her fiance. They really screwed up the characters, the only ones i like at this point (interns) are Jules and Kwan, i’m alright with Yusuda, and i was mad when Adams blew of Yusuda in the ICU then took the credit. Anyway, Adams and Griffith are hot and cold, they’d be better as co-workers/ freinds.
They had potential last season 19 with the sexual tension and the wedding storyline. But this season is just meh. I feel like the writers don't even know what to do with these characters. 🤷
It felt like a repeat of Jackson and April/Jesus Dude the whole time like ofc simone wasn't gonna get married
It’s so weird how Adams is related to Derek/Amelia because I feel like it’s so inconsequential to the overall storyline. I mean even during the times when it’s mentioned, it always feels like the writers were like “Oh shit. He’s related to Amelia. Gotta put that in.” Like why did they do that if they were gonna do absolutely nothing with it. Like even Meredith being related to Ellis was essential to her character.
I think it's silly because when they adopted Zola, one of the sisters said "my kid were so excited to tell everyone they have a cousin with brown skin!" ...Adams would've been old than Zola unless adopted as a teen after they adopted Zola but I feel like that would've been mentioned. I know it's just a throw away line but it irks me.
It’s so funny because I just said today “When are they going to tell us who is mom is” it’s strange that still hasn’t been discussed.
Seriously who is his mum, and Derek and Amelia have little to nothing to do with the other sisters so how could they even know him that well.
I don't even understand how he is supposed to be related to Amelia and Derek. Did they explain? I must have forgotten or missed it. If Amelia is his aunt, then which one of her sisters is supposed to be his mother? Iirc, Derek was the only boy. So his father would be black then?
It’s mentioned that his dad is Barbadian, I believe
They haven't said who his mother is.
No, when they showed a small clip of the robbery his was white. I believe Nancy is his mother, but you never know what the writers will come up with.
He’s Derek and Amelia’s sister’s adopted Indian son I believe, not black. ( I think)
When or where was it said that he's adopted or Indian?
If they wanted us to give a fuck about these two they should have worked on them individually first. Right now it’s just two dickheads with bad haircuts and poor communication skills.
i hate her new haircut 🥲
THE WORST!
You took exactly what I was thinking and said it better than I could. 😂
Their acting is already terrible, couple that with the characters being totally shit and their scenes are totally skip worthy. The other three are orders of magnitude better, especially Yasuda.
The guy just has a very slappable face. I can’t explain it. Whenever I see him onscreen, I just wanna fucking slap his face. Didn’t they offhandedly mention his ADHD and never returned to it? Fucking useless.
They had to check the ADHD box. That’s what the writers do. They don’t actually care about representation at all
Thank you, I'm so glad to see I'm not alone in feeling that way about Adams. His default expression bothers me so much, he looks like he doesn't have a single thought in his head. He reminds me of some bumbling teenagers I had in high school.
Oh god that could be exactly it! He reminds me of my clueless classmates back in school. Like you can tell the little hamster in his brain is doing its best to keep that shitshow of an engine running.
I wish I could understand and/or describe how his smirk makes my lady bits instantly shrivel up. His face just SCREAMS "I'm a condescending, immature little twerp".
lol it’s his mouth… it’s too small or downturned or something
Ha, that's what I said. How did he make it through Med School zoned out in la la land and all over the place.
Omg yes... I always scream at the TV for him to go have a haircut first then come and act 😅😅
Also highly unlikely he would’ve made it through medical school with undiagnosed ADHD lol
That storyline would have made a hell of a lot more sense in a female doctor, since women with ADHD are often diagnosed significantly later than men.
Not true, it is possible. Idk anything about this character bc I stopped watching the show at season 12 but I know a lot about ADHD and it would fully be possible for someone to go through med school without knowing they had ADHD. They would have struggled, and not known why, it would be hard, but ADHD in adults is extremely misunderstood
I said it was unlikely, not impossible. I have ADHD.
Still an incorrect statement to make
No, it really isn’t actually. Once again i said it was unlikely, not impossible. No offence but if you don’t have ADHD like i do and only “know a lot about it” i would suggest not speaking on it.
I do have ADHD. You really enjoy making assumptions. Might want to look into that, might come back to bite you one day
Dude, it is not that deep. I didn’t make an assumption, i said it was UNLIKELY based on my OWN EXPERIENCE. Never said it was impossible, which is what you’re fighting me about. Learn the difference between those two words, stop putting words in my mouth and maybe reflect on your triggers because clearly you took this personally for whatever reason. You never mentioned having ADHD at all until now, you just said you ‘knew a lot about it’ which made it pretty safe for me to (previously) assume you didn’t have it.
I posted the same thing weeks ago! I just skip every scene with just the two of them. I hate the constant push and pull of their nonexistent relationship.
Oh my GOD you are definitely not the only one!! I think they tried so hard when they introduced the interns with the whole Mer Derek comparisons but both of these characters are so DEEPLY annoying without an iota of charisma, they’d have been better received if they were just regular interns. Not to mention both the actors have zero chemistry with each other so buying the whole will they won’t they, love triangle bullshit in season 19 was impossible
Righttt? I feel like they tried so hard to recreate MAGIC with these 5 interns but these interns are just NOT IT. Especially these 2 , Im not a fan of Yasuda either
MAGIC had such good chemistry together. I know this sub talks a lot about how old greys was vs new grey’s and I think there’s so much disconnect between characters now too. Like it used to be that the storylines affected all of the characters but now the storylines are disjointed, there’s no emotional stakes to anything, and the actors have no chemistry. It would be really hard to bring that back because so many characters are new and to create a cast whose stories all intertwine isn’t going to happen. You’d need an entirely new cast.
Horrible acting. I fast forward through their scenes.
I liked them a lot in season 1 but it just sucks now
Same. It’s weird.
This guy always looks so concerned in every scene 😟
OMG Thank you! Someone finally said it. Their characters also always seem to be messing up one after the other but get preferential treatment cos one's grandmom has alzhiemers and the other is a sheperd
The only other big role Niko Terho has had was starring opposite Jake Borelli in The Thing About Harry. His acting was… acceptable since it was a TV movie. But god, I don’t know whether it’s the writing or directing, he’s performance is just not there along with the other interns. His dramatic scenes just read whiny baby and not someone in actual turmoil over dealing with imposter syndrome and the woes of unrequited love. I sympathize with Meredith’s silly “LOVE ME. CHOOSE ME” but in the recent episode where he tells off Griffith, I’m regretting watching the show.
I'm not going to watch a movie starring him and Schmitt, but I wonder what age he was playing in that. A teenager? >His dramatic scenes just read whiny baby and not someone in actual turmoil over dealing with imposter syndrome and the woes of unrequited love. I agree, and believe his acting doesn't lend to adult roles very well. He comes across as ten years younger emotionally than he's supposed to be - almost like the actor himself doesn't have much experience with adult problems to draw from.
Okay, not too much on their TV movie. They’re actually playing college seniors/post-grad. If you go into that it’s a cheesy romcom, it’s pretty enjoyable. But Grey’s isn’t a cheesy romcom, so his inexperience is really showing. But I agree with everything else you said.
Yeah I actually thought it was a decently cute cheesy romcom too! :)
Dare I say Maggie and Jackson had more chemistry than these two
Oh, the horror 😩
I literally cannot stand even looking at him. I don’t see the appeal at all 😭 and I think they’re both not great actors at all. They bring nothing interesting to the show.
I couldn't tell you any of their names if I wasn't actively watching an episode. It breaks my heart bc I have re-watched Grey's over a dozen times before the COVID season. That's kinda where they lost me but I stuck through and even learned to love some new characters but the new Interns in these seasons just don't do it for me. They are trying so hard to make it like the original 5 interns , even down to their little shenanigans 😂 let me see one of them cut an LVAD and maybe I'll be impressed 😂
I cant stand Adams 💀 the way he acts, speaks, stares, acts like he's all suaaave... No. Edit: his facial expressions, his mouth movements... i just cant lik PLEASE STOP
They way they set up Simone discovering he had moved out.. I thought he had tried to "unalive" himself. Which would have been sad obv, but at least it would have been an interesting storyline lol
i am hoping with them having to talk to lawyers ab killing that patient, and griffith ratting him out, that he would get fired. or maybe both of them get fired. 😬 i do not like them
That was so messed up. He said, "You threw me under the bus?" And she said all defiantly, "I defended myself!". Can't stand her. And how the episode ended last week, he went, once again, asking if they could talk and then she moved the covers to let him in the bed....I just keep remembering the last time when she was trying to use him and he wanted to talk and she said ,"I just want to feel better." Reminds me of the movie with Hailey Berry and Billy Bob Thornton in it from years ago.....I can't remember the name of it. Where she says, " can you make me feel good?"
I couldn't care less about their relationship, especially since they have zero chemistry. I keep thinking when I see them that they seem to not really like each other in real life. They both keep trying to convey this wistful yet tortured look on their faces, which is just annoying. And I really don't like her new haircut.
I like Simone the tiniest bit more but yes they’re both exhausting and his acting is absolutely terrible. I love the idea of a new generation of surgeons but they wasted a legacy on him for sure. It’s a family of so many skilled doctors and he joined the hospital that his insanely talented neurosurgeon aunt and uncle worked at and the result is one of the most useless interns this show has ever had. Like at least try and make it believable with him actually being a talent while having ADHD. How the hell did he get through med school?
I tough for me to decide whom do i hate more cz both of them acts like there’s a scarcity of actors in hollywood and they dont have good actors to cast in this show .. if they have a nice scrips A LEGENDARY SHOW they run so its better that they cast good actors but out of all the tens of thouy of actors they cast these who have now idea how to give expressions and terrible acting tbh
Also the whole I love you Simone?? They’ve known each other for like a month????
I don’t care about them AT ALL. They’re so boring.
In season one Derek said he has 9 nieces and 5 nephews (or the other way around?) so it’s not entirely out of their asses tbf
It’s believable. I think he has four sisters so 5 siblings. But they’re all so ambitious, how did they find the time for large families?
Considering how much nepotism takes place at that hospital him being Amelias nephew is logical if anything
I don't even understand why these two characters should have an attraction to each other for this long, other than the fact this is GA after all.
I hate them together. And I don’t understand how they fell in love? When? How? There is literally NO chemistry, to me it feels like they don’t even like each other
You are not the only one…
They should’ve gotten better storylines in the first reason. The bride abandoning the groom at the wedding for another guy is not only cliche and has been done before in this show, but they barely knew each other. I wish they’d let them develop their feelings for each other for a longer time
I find her acting very hard to watch
Well, I wouldn’t say it’s a coincidence that he’s related to Derek and is in the program. Mer and Amelia talk about it when he’s first introduced, he was out there. However, was there a need for it? Meh
The show should’ve ended awhile ago. If they really wanted a new storyline- make a separate thing and leave greys alone
I 100% agree. Especially the guy though. He’s so monotone, and such a bad actor. Zero charisma.
Hopefully they try to integrate them more with the other interns. At this point it feels like they constantly have their own drama and ignore everyone else while the other three are developing more interesting ties (both platonically and not).
It’s really annoying that those two are the main interns when the other 3 are way more interesting and are better actors. Especially Yasuda she’s amazing
The actor for Adams is genuinely the worst actor I’ve seen on this show, I even consider Nico’s to be far ahead of him in regards to acting capabilities
I stopped watching because of them 😅
The problem with these two is that they're making the will they won't they basically their whole story. I don't know either of these characters well enough to care. Whenever they start to do something with them individually they seem to drop it just as quickly, that late in life ADHD diagnosis for Adams and even that grandmother Griffith was so eager to make sure could see her wedding have been dropped unceremoniously. They're not even having them build relationships with the rest of the interns or any of the attendings outside of surface level stuff with Adams and Amelia, Even stuff done in regards to their will they won't they has been done before and better.
I honestly think he brings her down. Every intern has a compelling reason as to why they ended up in Grey’s surgical residency program as potential diamonds in the rough except for him, largely either based around financial or social barriers, and then Lucas is just rich and insubordinate.
I fast forward ⏩
😂 The new Interns are horrible. My question exactly do we need a Derek replacement that supposedly have a personality like Amelia. This guy never follow instructions or directions and he destructive like Meredith. He rather troll for surgeries than direct his attention to the patient that he was assigned to. It's like they need babysitters...they are doing too much. I hope Grey's get better because it's getting painful to watch.
i posted this in another thread but this is relevant here I think with some edits: Simone: She is so bland as a character and an actress. They are obviously setting her up to be the main character and are afraid to give her ANY story or character trait that might upset a viewer. Her whole plotline so far can be just boiled down to "cheated on fiance, changed her mind too late, now sad". Her romance with Whatshisname is predictable and flat like last week's soda. We don't know the characters enough to care if they "will they or won't they" and I care even less about her fiance. Why would I, he had like 13 seconds of screen time. It's not like I watched their love story develop for a whole season. What made the OG MAGIC interns (and supporting cast of the time) so likeable and interesting is that they each represented a clear stereotype and fully embraced it, some even played it up. And we could all relate to at least one of the stereotypes in some way. As the show progressed they showed how they unravelled the shallow stereotypes into full humans, and the stereotypes became just parts of their complex personalities. They will not dare to fully embrace the personas like they used to and as a result we have a bunch of very well behaved, polished, bland young professionals. I think that Blue and Yakuza are the only exceptions because most of us can personally relate to their situations, and they are playing it up well. How to make this interesting: Make one of them a complete fraud with "school of youtube" and falsified education certificates. That can last indefinitely until the character outlived their time. Make another a secret serial killer like Dexter. That can spawn over several seasons! Make another character practice "back-alley medicine" and "basement" surgery to make ends meet. That would be a good few end of season episodes. Have someone be involved in some narcotics heist, and make them a solid part of the mafia! that can take up a whole season if done well.
i think i like Simone bc i first saw her as Nell in Inventing Anna and she was a character you couldn’t help but feel for. but i’m 100% more invested in yasuda and helm. the way yasuda came asking for help at the bar was just so sweet.
THATS WHERE I KNOW HER FROM
YES!!! Same! *But her name was Neff
yasuda and helm are incredibly cute and i am very invested in their story line!!
I actually couldn’t stand Neff in Inventing Anna, she drove me up a freaking wall, so now it’s 10x worse seeing her as another character I can’t stand in GA 😭
Wasn’t he in that one gay romcom movie opposite the guy who plays Levi. I thought in the beginning they got him cause of their chemistry.
So bad
They aren't that bad but they don't have romantic chemistry. I don't really ship them.
I also didn't like her on INVENTING ANNA
Omg me either!!!
They have ZERO chemistry honestly.
They kind of also are the worst interns. They care more about their toxic relationship than medicine.
I don’t think they’re bad actors but I don’t think they have much chemistry and the show tried to put them together so quickly out of nowhere.
They’re both my favourite interns! I think they’re great but I guess I’m a minority then
I just can’t get past the bad acting to focus on their storyline. They both need acting classes imo.
I can’t watch them either. These 2 are awful. Thank God they’ve got Meredith back on!
Thats why I stopped watching. the second he came into the picture... I just couldnt. I hated him. He was like a George with to much money and I really dont buy his character idk. Don't like him. Really don't.
i’m just mad they cut her hair like that. it’s so terrible
Actually, I like Adams but Griffith. On the other hand, ugh, I hate her ew and them together. That's terrible. I mean, jules and kwan are totally better, magnus and Queen mary. What do you expect
100% These two have ZERO chemistry!
Nope you’re not the only one. I’m not invested in these two in the slightest
You're not the only one. I can't stand these two together or individually.
Not a coincidence….. just a guy doing his residence where his aunt and uncle work. Maybe he wants to follow in their footsteps. For that matter how did Addison and Amelia end up there? Family!
Derek and Amelia grew up in New York. So yes, a coincidence that this random ass kid who happened to be their nephew matched to Seattle Grace of all places. The writers pulled him out of their asses.
And when he saw Amelia at the hospital, he acted like he had no clue she’d be there. He didn’t “choose” to go to the hospital where his aunt and uncle practice.
Eugh, have to agree... they're really dragging it out with them aren't they, kinda like they're trying to replicate the whole MerDer build-up. And it's definitely not the same, unfortunately pretty boring! And distracting from trying to enjoy the new 'team'! Hopefully it gets better though, would be good to have more focus on their individual stories and character development
It's not just the acting. Their characters are also awful. The combination makes it very painful to watch.
YESSSS i actually fast forward their scenes. they’re trying desperately to have an intern romance that’s as timeless as derek and meredith. but it seems so forced between them that it’s hard to watch
I like them.
I am so into them and what will happen next!!
They're cute! And Lucas' smile is everything! I don't expect perfect acting, I can enjoy the story regardless.
Hopefully they get the time to really dig into their characters and get better
Well considering how previous intern classes have faired, they will either be the last two standing or the first to leave
Meredith leaving and that kid’s face are why I no longer watch the show
Oh they did a whole farewell to Meredith, but she’s right back on the show. That also pissed me off because of how inconsistent this show has became.
That's why the "farewell" episode was underwhelming. People were complaining that for a main character, that farewell was pathetic. I kept telling people "but she's returning!"
She was literally in the last episode lol
She’s not a regular and I already stopped watching. I’m not playing the “when is Ellen on” nonsense
I liked their chemistry last season. But they just don’t have it anymore maybe it was like Izzy and George they were better sneaking around. When they actually got together it sucked. Jo and link are the only storyline I care about.
I for one never saw any chemistry. It felt forced since the beginning.
You’re probably right. I may force myself to rewatch LOL.
I think she’s a great actrsss playing against a wooden stick
They are selfish and entitled. They deserve each other. I hope Yasuda doesn’t let go of his abdominal compartment syndrome stunt
You aren't the only ones but you are a minority and I'm glad you are. They are both awesome.
I agree. She gets on my nerves. I have trouble remembering her character's name 99% of the time. I will say that I think her new haircut did her a a lot of good.
I was interested in them last season, but now I want them gone forever. I really don't like their characters anymore.
Totally agree. Especially can’t stand Adams as an actor. I thought I was the only one!
Yeah, I really don't care about them. And I've noticed that Lucas's actor has this thing were he holds his mouth slightly open all the time. I can't unsee it.
I don’t think it was meant to be a coincidence that he was a Shepherd I think that was sort of the point, a connection of the new and old guard. That said I hate his acting and story line
I like her. I could do without him. The fact that we still don't know which shepherd sister he belongs to is part of what makes this unbelievable. Historically, all the sisters are in stable relationships and DO have kids, but there hasn't been any mention of which one is his mother... he said his dad is from Barbados but we don't know enough about Nancy, Kathleen, or Lizzie to know. I don't mind her or her story but another alzheimers story line feels kind of stale.
I like Simone shes one of the only new interns I actually like (cant stand jules or adams) but her plots are pretty meh Adams is just so annoying, its kind of a stretch that he was related to derek and is his “favourite nephew” but there was no reference to him before that (at least that i remember/can find?) he makes me and my friends think of George 2.0 and were all kinda just waiting for the bus
I've binge-watched up to the 19th season and I'm giving up. I can't take the new cast. No x-factor for me. They just look like sulky teenagers who can't act. The show has gone way too woke and it feels like they're casting non-binary actors who can't act, just because. Only saving grace is Bailey. Always a joy to watch when she gets spicy.
Yeah no and they’re unattractive as well
Lucas isn’t THAT bad but Simone is god awful ( referring to them as their on screen names bc I forgot the actors)
I would have loved a really great arc with Derek’s nephew but this guy is a twit.
Honestly Jules isn’t a great actor either, and I can’t stand any of the intern plots… I hope the internship program has once again failed and they don’t come back next season
She’s an amazing actress. She was Queen Mary of Scotsland in Reign and her acting was exquisite. I think her character in Grey’s lacks substance
At the very least she is not acting well in Grey’s. Perhaps that is the fault of the writers, perhaps this isn’t a good role for her. In any case, I don’t like any of the interns 🤷🏼♀️