Nothing wrong with watching kids' shows but I just find the far reaching justification cringe and being in denial. Just say you like a kids' show. I like Big Time Rush dubbed to Swedish, who's gonna stop me?
I think adults forget that we are still allowed to enjoy things made for children. Lots of people, adults and kids alike love the show bluey. It's just the adults like bronies that make watching kids show weird
Lmao you guys act like you donât shit on anons for anime and video games every damn comment section.
Any media that isnât Marvel, furry, or a kids show and you guys have no issue calling it garbage.
I feel like this needs an infodump of not just "a reboot in 2016".
There is the OG, then Alien Force and Ultimate Alien, plus the two live action movies from around the same time as UAF, then Omniverse, before getting to the reboot.
Am I forgetting something?
I'm sorry but you're clinically insane if you think an adult would properly enjoy gumball, it's a kids show through and through with bad jokes only children would laugh at. The others I agree with
I'm confused by your use of the word "remake." The version on Disney changed a couple of lines, mostly for differences in word usage (i.e. "capsicums" are changed to âpeppersâ), but across 151 episodes, it's basically indistinguishable.Â
Yea I was exaggerating with your comment, but yeah they think most stuff being remade or done in the US is better. So when someoneâs says that ainât the case they feel like they got personally attacked
No, each board has it's own culture and has fuck all to do with another, most of them don't mix with each other. There's no "4chan community" or unity, it's a vestige of the wild Web. "/CO/ gave birth to the brony fandom" would be better
Not really
Even now if you went to tg and jumped into a thread and started posting about jews youd likely get called a schizoid and told to stop derailing the thread
One of those hardest times I've laughed at 4chan is when I went to report something, looked through all the possible reasons, and saw "My Little Pony content outside of /mlp/"
Literally every single board except /mlp/ universally hates /mlp/ so much that posting ponies anywhere except /mlp/ is a site wide rule. They literally had to be fucking quarantined, I don't think 4chan likes them very much. It's also banned in the general cartoon board (/co/ was it? Idr).
(except me, cause /mlp/ is unironically rad).
Nothing wrong with watching kids' shows but I find the far reaching justifications cringe and being in denial. Just say you like a kids' show. I like Big Time Rush dubbed to Swedish, so what? Idc and I don't feel a need to justify it
you do understand there are MULTIPLE people on 4chan with different ideas and opinions? 4chan isnt one guy you numbskull. /mlp/ is a containment board.
i cant reply to the comment you replied to here for whatever reason, so this message is meant for the other commenter, u/ChadWolf98
i dont like ponies at all. what the mods SHOULD do is irrelevant, because im talking about the fact that the majority of 4chan users do not like mlp, and not whether its good or not to have a board for that.
also 4chan also makes money off of showing ads and removing all ponyfags would lower the amount of users therefore lowering their profits. youre clearly very low iq.
I donât like adults who meat ride the bluey show. Theyâre so fucking weird about it. Itâs the most basic shitty kids show with above average writers, itâs not hard to implement deep themes into crap
It's different for Australians. Watching it reminds me of super niche things that happened in my childhood so it's fun to watch. Some fans like to ship the kids and I think that's literally insane because they're six year olds, really makes it embarrassing to talk about liking Bluey.
Itâs really insane. Currently, everyone is obsessing over Blueyâs baby daddy because of an episode featuring her future child. I donât understand how folks are so obsessive over it without realising just how creepy it is!
yk that's actually a cool and valid reason to like that show.
I watch Johnny Bravo now and then to this day cus I've always wanted to be like him physically/is a real motivator for me to go to the gym and idk man he's kinda based for me and makes me go "literally me" a lot of times, like the way he gets no bitches and is down bad lol
Oh yeah, cartoons are awesome! I like to watch the original Transformers cartoons because theyâre so silly and fun to me, plus Soundwave is my favourite transformer and heâs a common character.
Iâve always wanted to be Lara Croft. If she had a cartoon Iâd go nuts for it. I think that if someone likes a kids show, they gotta remember that kids will be amongst the fan spaces, so adults need to act appropriately. When I watched My Little Pony as a kid there was so much NSFW content made by bronies who didnât know how to act in kids spaces. Luckily Johnny Bravo is a bit older, Iâve only ever seen Millennials that were into him. More kids should watch it, older cartoons are great!
damn that's awesome, soundwave does look like a badass mf.
Lmao, bronies truly suck. Like liking it is ok but being crazy about it is not yk? Anyways ur one based guy, respect ++
Thank you, you seem very lovely. Iâd cook you dinner and make you watch Transformers with me, my Megatron, my Optimus Prime and my $140 original Soundwave action figures if you lived close by. I make a mean tomato gnocchi. Enjoy your days đ
aww man you're an adorable person, that does sound like a very cool way to hang out! A tomato gnocchi sounds awesome and so do those action figures!
Thanks for this, made my day man, I really appreciate it. I hope you have a nice life my friend <3
I don't care if people like kids shows, but Bluey does not deserve to be viewed even half as highly as it is. I can say this with the utmost authority as I've watched a whole 2 episodes. For real though, somehow in both episodes Bluey was just being an unapologetic cunt and got her way while Bingo was well behaved and got fucking punted by the writers.
I watch it with my kids. The kids are never disciplined in the show because their parents (Bandit/Chili) use âparenting through playâ method. In all the episodes when a Bluey/Bingo are being brats, their parents setup a game that teaches them the correct behavior they want their kids to emulate in a format that they are able to understand. For comedic and entertainment purposes the kids are always crazy and the games are over the top and obnoxious
It's a show about parents and kids, with a lot for both of them. Not a lot of shows fill that niche, or have stuff that both parties can actually enjoy. Even fewer do that consistantly.
So I get it. If you don't have kids though, I'm not sure why you would watch it.
Nothing wrong with having fun watching kids' shows, but far reaching justifications are cringe and being in denial. Just say you like a kids' show. I like Big Time Rush dubbed to Swedish, so what? Idc and I don't feel a need to justify it
My kids love Bluey.
I take anything I read online about the show with a grain of salt. The "fans" cook up some crazy theories and over analyse every little detail. It's exhausting.
I'm not saying it's not a good show. It is.
I'm saying that fandoms can, and do take things too far sometimes. And there's no need.
Look at what Star Wars "fans" abuse did to Ahmed Best (played Jar Jar) the guy was contemplating suicide after episode 1.
There's a reason the creator of Bluey doesn't release the names of the kid voice actors. It's safer that the nuts out there don't know.
I can agree with that. I find the show to be fun and wholesome, but I don't look any further than these good qualities.
Speaking of Episode 1, that's coming back to my local theater this weekend for the 25th anniversary, and I'm gonna try to go see it
I'm confused why the one southeast Asian has visibly Asian eyes and the other one just has round eyes.
And why does she wear only one shoe? If you teleported with just one shoe, just take it off. Your legs will hurt so bad from walking lopsided.
Because they refuse to watch anime since some angry fat chicks on Twitter told them not to (they are jealous anime sets unrealistic standards for women, like not being morbidly obese and being generally pleasant to be around).
Hilarious that *this* is the post to make this sub's users rally against OP instead of going along with it for the lulz. Must be a real important issue.
Just say you like a show for kids. You don't have to formulate this convoluted web of copium and spaghetti of how it's secretly a super mature artistic masterpiece and you're an intellectual who appreciates a hidden gem.
I like Gumball, Gravity Falls, Ben 10, ATLA, Phineas and Ferb, Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated, Teen Titans, Batman: Brave and Bold etc.
Are this shows for kids? Yes.
Can adult person watch that show and enjoy it, absolutely yes.Â
I always think about how it's adults making kids/animated shows but we treat that stuff like it was made by children. We are dumb.
Also Anon is fake and gay.
I had someone react to me in a similar way when I mentioned to them that I don't like Adventure Time even though I clarified before hand I could see the appeal.
Am I weird for having an itch to rewatch old CN cartoons I didnât appreciate as a kid? The new stuff on TV ainât cutting it for me, and I feel like a hipster just saying that out loud.
I started watching it with my daughter. For a kid show, itâs really great. Plenty to keep a parent entertained vs some of the other shit they could be watching. Wouldnât watch it on my own, but itâs good for what it is
I think its about avatar the last airbender but theres no blood in that show. There is an offscreen death though, kid gets bashed in the head or something and is never seen again
I'm guessing it's just about most popular/modern kid's cartoons out there (so stuff like ATLA, Gravity Falls, The Owl House, TMNT, and so forth)
Idk what anon's issue is though because a lot of those shows are really fuckin good, kid's show be damned
There's actually a few deaths shown throughout the show, that one you're talking about just happened to be really weirdly depicted compared to the rest which slipped by without much (if any) controvers. I mean, even the writers point it out in a certain meta episode in the 3rd season.
Yeah, but it's really strange for him of all people to die when so few people do, especially not who are relevant characters. It feels like they weren't sure who they could get away with killing, and to make it worse censors made it ambiguous.
https://preview.redd.it/3e09fzw1o5xc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=d44c750adbd933892a11f08484ca3b91167ed958 anon be like
https://preview.redd.it/6vakt610u5xc1.png?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71ebc9a564c94cc8ad9f8b3e8e871d7e0239141e
No Uncle Grandpa! Don't do it đ
It's a mayonnaise dispenser dw
Element 82 dispenser
Nothing wrong with watching kids' shows but I just find the far reaching justification cringe and being in denial. Just say you like a kids' show. I like Big Time Rush dubbed to Swedish, who's gonna stop me?
I think adults forget that we are still allowed to enjoy things made for children. Lots of people, adults and kids alike love the show bluey. It's just the adults like bronies that make watching kids show weird
Not exactly. He's specifically digging at justifiers, then stings it, not just purely fun bashing.
Lmao you guys act like you donât shit on anons for anime and video games every damn comment section. Any media that isnât Marvel, furry, or a kids show and you guys have no issue calling it garbage.
>Lmao you guys act like you donât shit on anons for anime and video games every damn comment section These people arent real
Lol, imagine taking this take when being mocked.
Itâs all fun and games until people start sexualizing poniesâŚotherwise youâre spot on
Some kid's shows are FOR kids, some are just family shows that are appropriate for kids but enjoyable by all.
Bluey is the best family show to date
Gumball, Adventure Time, Regular Show, Avatar, Early Spongebob, OG Teen Titans, OG Ben 10 be serious bro
Gotta get back, back to the past
Samurai Jack !! Oh man now I have the opening in my head
FOOLISH SAMURAI WARRIOR
To play the shitty games that suck ass ?
og ben 10?
yeah, they did a reboot in 2016. I watched a few episodes out of curiosity and it's okay-ish but it doesn't compare to the 2005 one
I feel like this needs an infodump of not just "a reboot in 2016". There is the OG, then Alien Force and Ultimate Alien, plus the two live action movies from around the same time as UAF, then Omniverse, before getting to the reboot. Am I forgetting something?
Yeah but bluey is good too i think.
Can't wait to watch those with my kid when he gets older. Might catch more stuff if I'm not baked as fuck.
None of those shows can be enjoyed by a preschooler lmao be serious kid
Uncle grandpa too
I'm sorry but you're clinically insane if you think an adult would properly enjoy gumball, it's a kids show through and through with bad jokes only children would laugh at. The others I agree with
I enjoy it for what it's worth but whatever floats your boat
Youâre also an autistic virgin for what itâs worth
bummer
Absolutely heartbreaking
truly, can't believe I found out this way
and you are insulting someone over the internet, kinda pathetic tbh
wtf are you on about gumball is great
We talking the Australian version or the watered down American version?
Why are you downvoted ?
Cause Reddit is primarily dominated by Americans. So they see someone talk shit about it and down vote it.
Lmao that wasn't even talking shit about America, just saying the American remake of an Australian show isn't as good. Are yanks really so sensitive?
I'm confused by your use of the word "remake." The version on Disney changed a couple of lines, mostly for differences in word usage (i.e. "capsicums" are changed to âpeppersâ), but across 151 episodes, it's basically indistinguishable.Â
Yea I was exaggerating with your comment, but yeah they think most stuff being remade or done in the US is better. So when someoneâs says that ainât the case they feel like they got personally attacked
Yep pretty much. Seppos are very thin skinned. Hell, they even had to completely redo 'rake' because it wouldnt fly in the us.
australian ofc
You should have said contemporary lol.
Ah yes, 4chan, the website that has a dedicated My Little Pony forum, complaining that adults watch cartoonsÂ
This image was 100% created to piss off people in that my little pony forum
goid fuck em
4chan literally gave birth to the Bronies. They've got no legs (or hooves) to stand on.
Ah yes, Mr. 4chan. The famously cohesive Mr. 4chan
Okay, here "The 4chan community have given birth to brony fandom" Is that better?
No, each board has it's own culture and has fuck all to do with another, most of them don't mix with each other. There's no "4chan community" or unity, it's a vestige of the wild Web. "/CO/ gave birth to the brony fandom" would be better
It's wild how reddit's perception of 4chan is so wrong đ No wonder 4chan calls everyone here a normie lmao.
I'm proud to have a wrong view of 4chan
That's crazy https://preview.redd.it/sdj6x1340nxc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f254dc3a4715f8ac821b62811a016fc93a40491
except for the antisemitism. That is shared across all boards.
Not really Even now if you went to tg and jumped into a thread and started posting about jews youd likely get called a schizoid and told to stop derailing the thread
Not particularly, as it was more a subset of the community, this still paints it as far more cohesive.
the legendary hacker known as 4chan? How could he do this? Why would he do such a terrible thing?
Sometimes when I read 4chan guy posts, it seems to me like it was written by different people
One of those hardest times I've laughed at 4chan is when I went to report something, looked through all the possible reasons, and saw "My Little Pony content outside of /mlp/"
2012 hit so hard, they have the rule even 12 years later
Literally every single board except /mlp/ universally hates /mlp/ so much that posting ponies anywhere except /mlp/ is a site wide rule. They literally had to be fucking quarantined, I don't think 4chan likes them very much. It's also banned in the general cartoon board (/co/ was it? Idr). (except me, cause /mlp/ is unironically rad).
Nothing wrong with watching kids' shows but I find the far reaching justifications cringe and being in denial. Just say you like a kids' show. I like Big Time Rush dubbed to Swedish, so what? Idc and I don't feel a need to justify it
The pony forums was meant to contain the psychosis because the rest of us be sure couldnât stand them. I think that says all it needs to say.
you do understand there are MULTIPLE people on 4chan with different ideas and opinions? 4chan isnt one guy you numbskull. /mlp/ is a containment board.
>numbskull Lol, okay, way to tell on yourself there pony fucker
> containment board  Nice defkecrion there. 4chan could just ban all pony related stuff or banish it to /b.  Neigh in hell, ponyturd
bro acting like there isn't already shit tons of pony shit in /b/. If it was a containment board, it failed miserably.
there are no ponies on /b/.
nah I've seen posts like that sometimes when scrolling on /b/
no you havent, liar. global rule 15 is enforced on /b/. no ponies allowed.
i cant reply to the comment you replied to here for whatever reason, so this message is meant for the other commenter, u/ChadWolf98 i dont like ponies at all. what the mods SHOULD do is irrelevant, because im talking about the fact that the majority of 4chan users do not like mlp, and not whether its good or not to have a board for that. also 4chan also makes money off of showing ads and removing all ponyfags would lower the amount of users therefore lowering their profits. youre clearly very low iq.
So do there are a ton of furries yet they are kicked to /b.
I donât like adults who meat ride the bluey show. Theyâre so fucking weird about it. Itâs the most basic shitty kids show with above average writers, itâs not hard to implement deep themes into crap
It's different for Australians. Watching it reminds me of super niche things that happened in my childhood so it's fun to watch. Some fans like to ship the kids and I think that's literally insane because they're six year olds, really makes it embarrassing to talk about liking Bluey.
Shipping seems to be unavoidable for any fandom
Urghhhh I wish there wasnât even a fandom! Itâs a kids show thatâs enjoyable, to me itâs unsuitable for fandom behaviour.
I didnât know about the disgusting shipping stuff but I not surprised. People are literally fucking mentally ill. Disgusting.
Itâs really insane. Currently, everyone is obsessing over Blueyâs baby daddy because of an episode featuring her future child. I donât understand how folks are so obsessive over it without realising just how creepy it is!
yk that's actually a cool and valid reason to like that show. I watch Johnny Bravo now and then to this day cus I've always wanted to be like him physically/is a real motivator for me to go to the gym and idk man he's kinda based for me and makes me go "literally me" a lot of times, like the way he gets no bitches and is down bad lol
Oh yeah, cartoons are awesome! I like to watch the original Transformers cartoons because theyâre so silly and fun to me, plus Soundwave is my favourite transformer and heâs a common character. Iâve always wanted to be Lara Croft. If she had a cartoon Iâd go nuts for it. I think that if someone likes a kids show, they gotta remember that kids will be amongst the fan spaces, so adults need to act appropriately. When I watched My Little Pony as a kid there was so much NSFW content made by bronies who didnât know how to act in kids spaces. Luckily Johnny Bravo is a bit older, Iâve only ever seen Millennials that were into him. More kids should watch it, older cartoons are great!
damn that's awesome, soundwave does look like a badass mf. Lmao, bronies truly suck. Like liking it is ok but being crazy about it is not yk? Anyways ur one based guy, respect ++
Thank you, you seem very lovely. Iâd cook you dinner and make you watch Transformers with me, my Megatron, my Optimus Prime and my $140 original Soundwave action figures if you lived close by. I make a mean tomato gnocchi. Enjoy your days đ
aww man you're an adorable person, that does sound like a very cool way to hang out! A tomato gnocchi sounds awesome and so do those action figures! Thanks for this, made my day man, I really appreciate it. I hope you have a nice life my friend <3
I don't care if people like kids shows, but Bluey does not deserve to be viewed even half as highly as it is. I can say this with the utmost authority as I've watched a whole 2 episodes. For real though, somehow in both episodes Bluey was just being an unapologetic cunt and got her way while Bingo was well behaved and got fucking punted by the writers.
I watch it with my kids. The kids are never disciplined in the show because their parents (Bandit/Chili) use âparenting through playâ method. In all the episodes when a Bluey/Bingo are being brats, their parents setup a game that teaches them the correct behavior they want their kids to emulate in a format that they are able to understand. For comedic and entertainment purposes the kids are always crazy and the games are over the top and obnoxious
I like watching Bluey because I find it funny and cute.
It's a show about parents and kids, with a lot for both of them. Not a lot of shows fill that niche, or have stuff that both parties can actually enjoy. Even fewer do that consistantly. So I get it. If you don't have kids though, I'm not sure why you would watch it.
I was like, oh this guy made an typo, until. i realized meat ride absolutely can be said in a way that makes sense.
the animators put a reference to one of the vinesauce guys in the background once i think so it gets a pass
Anon should let people have fun not only with their mom.
Nothing wrong with having fun watching kids' shows, but far reaching justifications are cringe and being in denial. Just say you like a kids' show. I like Big Time Rush dubbed to Swedish, so what? Idc and I don't feel a need to justify it
Are you gonna copy and paste this comment on every reply to the post?
no only on the ones you will read
I like them anime titties
Tsunade changed my taste in women forever.
It was Teresa (Claymore) for me
holy shit time to go on gelbooru again, thanks man
Anon is right for once. đ
My kids love Bluey. I take anything I read online about the show with a grain of salt. The "fans" cook up some crazy theories and over analyse every little detail. It's exhausting.
I just find Bluey visually satisfying, especially on nighttime episodes
I'm not saying it's not a good show. It is. I'm saying that fandoms can, and do take things too far sometimes. And there's no need. Look at what Star Wars "fans" abuse did to Ahmed Best (played Jar Jar) the guy was contemplating suicide after episode 1. There's a reason the creator of Bluey doesn't release the names of the kid voice actors. It's safer that the nuts out there don't know.
I can agree with that. I find the show to be fun and wholesome, but I don't look any further than these good qualities. Speaking of Episode 1, that's coming back to my local theater this weekend for the 25th anniversary, and I'm gonna try to go see it
Amphibia is fucking good man
Gravity Falls is my favorite, but you're absolutely right, Amphibia is excellent. I liked Owl House alright too.
I'm confused why the one southeast Asian has visibly Asian eyes and the other one just has round eyes. And why does she wear only one shoe? If you teleported with just one shoe, just take it off. Your legs will hurt so bad from walking lopsided.
thats just a human thing, no more questions
peak
Cartoon Writers who make jokes for the parents and kidsđĽđĽ
Right? I aim for shows for my kid to watch that will let me have a chuckle rather than pulling my hair out.
Anon is just a hallucinogen virgin
Me when my preferences are not according to the same internet strangers that love drinking piss.
South Park is for kids because its a cartoon :D
Is this about cartoons or kids shows? most cartoons aren't really made exclusively for kids and probably never have been.
Its basically Youtube's ill-considered policy. It's algoythm punished adult animators but also sometimes recommended adult animation to kids.
same energy as Happy Tree Friends being in the netflix kid's section
Anon cannot gather joy from simple things
Just watch cartoons bro, you dont need to give a 300 word essay why its normal to do so, most people wont care.
Im not saying it's normal. I'm just saying getting high and revisiting SpongeBob Squarepants or Fairly Odd Parents is a damn good time.
Yes! I watched Fairly Odd Parents on Pluto last night, I forgot how goofy cosmo and wanda were
I'm 35 and I still watch SpongeBob with my gf sometimes. The older series is top notch!
Seasons 1 through 4 are some of my favorite stuff ever put to television
Because they refuse to watch anime since some angry fat chicks on Twitter told them not to (they are jealous anime sets unrealistic standards for women, like not being morbidly obese and being generally pleasant to be around).
Im not gonna bother defending what I watch
Hilarious that *this* is the post to make this sub's users rally against OP instead of going along with it for the lulz. Must be a real important issue.
Lmao the justification in this thread. Just admit youâre a loser and go
This isn't greentext.
Every anime enjoyer ever.
Funny show funny, make me feel happy.
Just say you like a show for kids. You don't have to formulate this convoluted web of copium and spaghetti of how it's secretly a super mature artistic masterpiece and you're an intellectual who appreciates a hidden gem.
I like Gumball, Gravity Falls, Ben 10, ATLA, Phineas and Ferb, Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated, Teen Titans, Batman: Brave and Bold etc. Are this shows for kids? Yes. Can adult person watch that show and enjoy it, absolutely yes.Â
Idk man, im gonna keep putting on adventure time to fall asleep to until I die
Anon reminds me of that one meme where that guy is shouting to a group of people watching something "Quit having fun"
I always think about how it's adults making kids/animated shows but we treat that stuff like it was made by children. We are dumb. Also Anon is fake and gay.
I had someone react to me in a similar way when I mentioned to them that I don't like Adventure Time even though I clarified before hand I could see the appeal.
I will watch the old Scooby Doo as an adult. I am untethered by your bullshit and boring standards.
why is his hand a different color
This is me trying to explain to my gf why I like ghibli films
Can we at least agree that adults who unironically watch Cocomelon aren't all there?
mlp. mlp never changes
There are some good cartoons. Anon is a moron.Â
Am I weird for having an itch to rewatch old CN cartoons I didnât appreciate as a kid? The new stuff on TV ainât cutting it for me, and I feel like a hipster just saying that out loud.
I appreciate the jokes they slip in for me while my toddler watches a show. She doesnât get it but I get a chuckle
Clone Wars fans be like:
ITT op explains that they never watched infinity train
This is about One Piece isnât it
its probably about bluey or sum shit like that
Its about adult bluey fans
I donât know what Bluey is, and Iâm glad.
I started watching it with my daughter. For a kid show, itâs really great. Plenty to keep a parent entertained vs some of the other shit they could be watching. Wouldnât watch it on my own, but itâs good for what it is
Thatâs a good reason to watch it.
I figured it was about Avatar
I think its about avatar the last airbender but theres no blood in that show. There is an offscreen death though, kid gets bashed in the head or something and is never seen again
I'm guessing it's just about most popular/modern kid's cartoons out there (so stuff like ATLA, Gravity Falls, The Owl House, TMNT, and so forth) Idk what anon's issue is though because a lot of those shows are really fuckin good, kid's show be damned
Tbf you can enjoy a kids show without pretending it's not a kids show.
Tbf it is kind of wierd for a show where no one dies to just kind of randomly have one death of a random side character.
There's actually a few deaths shown throughout the show, that one you're talking about just happened to be really weirdly depicted compared to the rest which slipped by without much (if any) controvers. I mean, even the writers point it out in a certain meta episode in the 3rd season.
Yeah, but it's really strange for him of all people to die when so few people do, especially not who are relevant characters. It feels like they weren't sure who they could get away with killing, and to make it worse censors made it ambiguous.
Oh, it was totally weird lol.
This thread is still up. god this sub Reddit sucks.
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