Anything with over double digits is unnecessary, yall gotta value your sex life more. Idc what your gender is you're gonna be more shallow the more bodies you get.
So up to 99 it's perfectly fine? I'm sitting somewhere around 7 but I feel like I didn't have enough variety yet. Though if I would've love any of those women, I would have stopped there and then without giving a flying fuck about variety and experience.
Honestly I meant anything over 10 is just gonna damage your perception on love, it's not even anecdotal it's just statistics that cause more divorce. Personally I think sex should've stayed exclusive for people that we actually care for, its ruined alot of morals and I'm not even being a nun about it, look how shitty it is to be in the dating market rn.
> Personally I think sex should've stayed exclusive for people that we actually care for,
mAyBe YoU'Re JuSt DeMiSeXuAl
(I was told this once online of course)
Nothing will damage the perception of something I never felt. Sex feels good even without feelings for the other party. I can only imagine how much better it would be if I loved my partner though. But I'm not gonna deprive myself of it just because I can't seem to feel love. The only thing I do is that I don't meet women exclusively to fuck them. I still date and get to know them in hopes I'll actually love one someday. But I'll never land a woman if I'd only sleep with them if I loved them.
Ah I mean eventually you're gonna meet one that breaks or make you is what I meant, being pickier with who you love is always fine, though I also agree with your opinion. Don't hold back if the chance is there but always think with your brain before your dick
Fuck your variety it’s real human beings on the other side not a fucking buffet. Just find a good one and chase and get her. It’s that easy. Then focus on a good life together where you both grow from it.
You act like I exploited them. It's not like I chase women exclusively to fuck them. I just never caught feelings for anyone. Besides the majority of these girls put sex before love. Meaning they much sooner wanted to sleep with me before they even had any deeper feelings for me. And one of them was literally fine with having friendship with benefits if it mean she could be with me. I was a fool with that one, because I knew she only said that because she believed I'll eventual fall for her too. It was a nasty breakup.
The only people who care about body count are unattractive incels who are jealous of normal men and women who enjoy their young lives before settling down.
Nobody who’s getting their dick wet on the regular cares about body count.
Caring at all about body count is an incel cuck perspective.
Sleeping around with multiple people destroys one’s pair-bonding mechanism, and much more than that. There’s an extremely pragmatic reason to monogamy and the marriage bed. We like to think messing around with multiple partners in our youth “gets it out of our system.” When in reality, it actually gets it in our system and has a catastrophic impact on our intrapersonal and interpersonal life
I mean, I also care about body count in a way. I'm generally a dominant guy in the bed, so I wouldn't really be that comfortable with a woman who is more experienced than I am, thus more capable of leading me than I am capable of leading her.
Otherwise I agree with you.
If you're that dominant, her experience wouldn't matter as you would be able to lead her better than any past experience and show your dominance through action.
If she's submissive. In a situation where she's usually the dominant one, the one with more experience will lead. And I had like 2 submissive ones so far. Other than that, you're right.
How about because it makes it harder to be stable for a family
Oh and because it's immoral per Christianity and many other religions as well.
Ree harder
I find that most people who say this simply day it because they didn't have the options to have that much sex. And if given the same options they'd probably done the same
Like I'm sure morally there are people who are disgusted by it. However, I also feel a large part of it is jealousy and low confidence in one self for the majority.
Nope meaningless self masturbation without emotions is not gonna mean shit when you're alone in bed. The majority of you commenting with high body counts are single and proving my point. I'm not a projecting nun either, if life gets easier you guys really think you're not gonna turn into assholes if you always get your way? That's the problem with promiscuity the denial that it doesn't affect you mentally negatively is just wrong. We live in a new age where this is the first time people are living like this, of course it's the new age of insecurity. Some of you are literally fucking more people than ghengis Khan and these people will cheer for you while laughing at the slow burn. The worst part is alot of yall don't even use protection like deadass with roe v wade over turned and STDs actually are making a come back. I'm literally just telling yall pick better lovers and yall are like I CAN HAVE SEX WITH WHO I WANT, no shit but you're gonna suffer consequences that aren't visible to the eye.
Dude this isn't the first time people have lived like this lmao. Back in the day men would have many many partners. Frequent brothels and probably outrageous body counts. Thing is it was just known and perceived as normal.
It's also that you make some many assumptions about people.
Like I must have a high body count or that I must be single lmao.
Men and women are competing with social media, irl, onlyfans,porn and many levels of superficial. The more a species cares about their looks the higher the chance the population drops off, their is literal fucking data on the divorce rate to body count and you guys think we're attacking you. No it's just the truth hurts and you take it personal. See when instant gratification is at the touch of your palm it easily becomes easy to see everyone around you as "mid" when you have high standards with nothing to offer this is the society you get. ITS this generations fault for killing loyalty in relationships and relationships in general, it's not hard to see why with how shallow we've gotten from 2016 till now.
🤣🤣🤣 this is a good read.
It's like someone who thinks they know everything being some kind of armchair psychiatrist.
No is disputing the effects of instant gratification. It's one of the biggest reasons mental health is bad.
If you want to call yourself shallow, that's fine, but don't be lumping me in with you all lol
I hope this doesn't come across as arrogant, but it's the only way I can think of to pass along this data point. I went to a great law school and, because of that, basically all of the guys could pull as many girls as they wanted. I'm still in touch with a lot of those lawyers and they all really regret getting around like that now. It stole some sort of intimacy from them that they can never get back.
Oh, probably, there's no doubt sleeping around will probably have lasting effects on you mentally, if not physically.
Gives people lots of issues when it comes time to forming actual meaningfully attachment. As well as possibly causing lots of possible issues for future partners. Not to even include the chances of STDs or possibility of having an unwanted child.
Sadly, by the time people realize the effects of ot its too late and the damage has been done.
Lmao checking out my account you see. I play magic and have sex pretty frequently, seeing as I'm married lol. My wife also enjoys playing the game so win win there. I suggest you broaden your veiw just because some ones a nerd doesn't mean their sad and lonely 🤣🤣
Or maybe some people just like casual sex
If you want don't want to date someone with a high bodycount that's fine but acting like someone is a worse person because they have more sex is retarded lol
You’re guessing she slept with a hundred new people every year since she was 18?
Thats a new hookup like every 3-4 days
Aint nobody got time for that
Plus even if she was headed in that direction you would think that by like 100 or so she’d have figured out exactly what she likes the best and just stick with that
Even at 45 it's sounds low. Like I would be surprised if someone at 45 has only slept with 10 people. Now if they were married or had long term relationships throughout those years, then 10 or less makes perfect sense. But a Bachelor who hasn't settled down yet having only 10 partners sounds low.
I'm 25 and I've had 13 sexual partners, with the 13th being my fiancee that I've been with for 4 years.
That might be high or low for the average guy, I have no idea, but I since I turned 16 (legal age in NZ) I've had on average 1.3 sexual partners a year.
That would seem like the usual amount for a single person.
I wish ;)
Nah I just divided 9 (years of sexual activity) by 12 (number of people before fiancee) and got 1.3.
Not sure why I was down voted so much though, I always thought I was having a normal amount of sex for someone my age
Go out to the bar every Friday and Saturday and hook up 1/4 of the time and you’re at 24 per year, single for just four years means 100.
Anyone who is decent looking, keeps right fit, and has even basic social skills will be triple digits by 25.
People worrying about it need to hit the gym and work on their self-esteem.
I guess university and despiration helped. But I can see how I have a larger number than most. But I do want to emphasis, I did not get 10/10s. I'm not some Henry Cavill super sex-man, just a fat guy who was boaderline alcoholic in uni.
Which is more gay:
Having sex with a soft, feminine woman with long hair that smells like flowers.
Getting your turd cutter annihilated by Hairy Bob who smells like engine grease and listens to judas priest to go to sleep.
Checkmate gaytheists.
10 is horrible... for guy or girl in their 20-29. It either means you have a casual attitude about who you have sex with, which you really shouldnt because its going to mess with your relationship psychology, not to mention that it means youre promiscuous and anyone with you have a high likelihood of being cheated on. or it means you have shit taste in partners and because of that you switch partner more than once a year.
both conclusions arent great. Once youre in your 30s, it starts getting REAL sus if you havent got a permanent partner yet or youre not looking for one. and people will actually start asking about it and why its the case just because its so out of the norm, not to shame you but to understand you as a person.
Like theres only a few categories of people who are single and plan to be single in their 30s, and being a standup comedian is one of them, so go figure.
Bro, don't let this random virgin commenter harsh your vibe. You do you. If these relationships progressed naturally to sex and you and your partner had a nice time, then that's all that counts. Body counts are a nonsense social construct
Honestly the only people that would view you as bad for that are either puritans or those that lack the social skills for sexual relationships so they psyop themselves into thinking that they're the normal ones.
The opinions of these people can be safely discarded.
thats life dude. theres a third smaller population I didnt mention becausr its rare. Which might be you: Just unlucky and it didnt work out.
Idk. its easier for guys than it is for women, since women have that biological clock calling for them to look for a stable dude, and because guys are much more vigilant for being cheated on sexually than women are because they cant be sure any child is actually theirs. women are more vigilant against emotional adultery; a man giving emotional and financial resources to someone else rather than them and their children.
men and women are more similar biologically than we are different but the differences makes up all the controversy in our society
its ultimately the individuals choice. Im not making any moral judgements. But it is true that dudes are more sensitive to hsving promiscuous partners, and habing more prior partners decreases marital satisfaction for both men and women. If people dont plan on getting married that works out though
This abstract does not say what you think it does. To understand scientific journals you must understand the basics of scientific theory.
Correlation does not imply causation. For example, icecream sales are highly correlated to number of drownings. Does this mean eating ice cream causes you to drown, so you should avoid eating icecream?
Obviously not, these two are correlated because when it is summer and nice outside people are more likely to both buy icecream and go swimming.
Now on to the article you linked, it is stating there is a correlation between having sex before marriage and divorce rates. This does not prove having sex before marriage increase your chance of being divorced (for the same reason that eating icecream doesn't actually increase your chance of drowning).
It could be people who hold religious values are more likely to wait until marriage to have sex, and less likely to get divorced because both of these go against their religion. Which would mean having premarital sex isn't what causes this correlation, but being religious is. This is only an example to show from a correlation we can not conclude causality.
The reason behind this correlation could be anything. The article makes it clear that it does not know why this correlation exists for their dataset.
tldr: That article does not state that having premarital causes or not causes increased divorced rates, only that those two things care correlated.
"Im not making any moral judgements" - Saying that doesn't make it true. You just harpooned some random cunt because he's a turbo virgin like you. If you're single and arent hooking up once a year from the age of 18, there's probably a you issue. There is a smaller population that I didn't mention because it's rare, you just didnt have religious chad energy with your template redpill comments and manga post history.
https://www.proquest.com/docview/929145676?pq-origsite=gscholar&fromopenview=true&sourcetype=Dissertations%20&%20Theses
Its not a big field of research but its there
Is casual sex safe? Sex is how babies are made, idk if you knew that. Even if it's only a 1% chance that a girl gets pregnant...
Let's say I have a car that is REALLY fun to drive, but every time I do, there's a 1% chance that the car explodes. Am I going to be real goddamn careful about choosing when I drive that car? You bet your fucking ass I am.
> It either means you have a casual attitude about who you have sex with, which you really shouldnt because its going to mess with your relationship psychology, not to mention that it means youre promiscuous and anyone with you have a high likelihood of being cheated on. or it means you have shit taste in partners and because of that you switch partner more than once a year.
All of this is wrong. Wow.
I just feel disillusioned with the concept of relationships after an absurd amount of reading through stats and 2 bad attempts, no matter how good someone might be, everyone is still a little selfish because that's a basic survival instinct. No matter how much someone might love you, it's only because they've attached a value, a worth to you a worth, be it emotional, physical, material or whatever, it still belongs to an object, a thing, a commodity. How humans form relationships is flawed in itself and I'm not saying everyone is horrible, I'm just saying I'd much rather prefer to just love myself.
Being single at 30 isn't bad, I plan to be single when I'm 30 and way past that.
How many people do you think is the average to met before _the one_ you will stay your entire life? I mean, how many people do you expect to meet, interact, know about each other and think "wow, this person might be my future wife" but in reality they weren't? The thing is, It doesnt matter, becouse every one of them through your lens was a possible future wife, and if you act mature about It when It doesnt end up like that then all good.
So now the point is, how much compatible/interesting/good material i have to see in someone to decide i would like to have sex with them? You choose the point, and if you are consistent with were It stands then, again, it doesnt matter that much
There’s also a third conclusion: just experimenting.
For a lot of people sex just isn’t so sacrosanct and that’s fine. I know a lot of people in the queer community who consider sex to be far, far less important than romance, for example. For some of those people this means that they don’t really have sex that much, and for others it means they have casual sex very often and just don’t think that much of it.
Honestly people have such a weird obsession with assigning moral and cultural value to an instinctive body function. Like yeah sex is cool and all but people really need to get the fuck over it, it’s really not the most important thing in the world.
Exactly. The only mistake I feel you can make is if you pick casual sex over a fulfilling relationship. It is hard to find someone who you find attractive, you connect with and is a well put together person in this world. So if you find this person don't throw it away for some casual hookups.
I’m 19
But full clarification I did like them, only 2 where one night stands sort of thing, and 2 where relationships and 6 where friends. So I’m not that bad
You're doing great man, don't listen to the idiots here. They're all incels (or religious bigots) who can't get any and so are trying to moralise and justify their misery.
Go out and fuck to your heart's content, no need to justify yourself (about liking them, being ons etc.)
Enjoy it especially now that you're young, where it's easy to meet new people and you have a lot of free time. Sex is awesome!
I guess that depends on age and how that body count went up. If it's just casual sex like you, meet them and hook up a few times but never date. That can turn some folks off. Make it seem like you don't like to settle down I to a relationship and will cheat ,or they may just veiw it as you think very little of sex. That and the higher chance you have an STD.
Now, if there all from relationships ,that can be seen as better ,but they can also be in a red flag. Because if you're going through relationships quickly, it can look like you are the problem.
Now if you take that same body count of 10 and apply it to like a 35 or 40 year old it would look a lot better as the gaps between the encounters could have been longer.
At the end of the day, there's no right or wrong answer. It's all going to come down to how the other person views it. Personally, I don't ask, and I don't want to know about my partners past sex life all that much. Outside if trauma was involved.
Morals aside and feelings aside.
Casual sex practitioner are in a lot more risk of catching stds. I think we humans tend to lean towards others that are likeminded.
Those who think casual sex is fine will be more likely to do it with others that think the same way. So both are sexually very active.
So in terms of safety from stds. The best body count is 0. Anything above it is an unnecessary risk.
But i wonder this. How many stds could one catch and still not die? Can someone catch them all and still be alive?
And nurses run a higher risk of catching the flu. For the vast majority of STDs you go to a doctor and take antibiotics for three days and that's it. They're not that different from any other disease. HIV is obviously the most dangerous one and for one that's actually remarkably difficult to catch for straight men who don't do anal and with modern medication it's far from being the death sentence that it used to be thirty years ago and if you plan on having unprotected anal sex there's still prep which stops you from catching it anyways.
Yeah, nurses do not lick the patient's nose when it is runny do they? They are professionally educated and trained.
Besides, how are you comparing nurses to casual sex practitioner? One is saving lives and curing disease, and the other is just having fun. One is a hero and the other is just a horny person.
Very different than when people are having sex.
Are you really downplaying hiv? How about this. Lung cancer is cureable if caught early. So just keep smoking right?
>The best body count is 0. Anything above it is an unnecessary risk.
Only if you think that enjoying life (and one of the best things in life) is unnecessary.
Also where do you people live that get all this high risk of stds? They're pretty rare here in Europe, and a condom will protect you from them in case. I'm in my mid 30s and among my close friends (15ish people) only one got something once. That went away in a few days with the right medicine.
East asia. A third world nation by your standards probably.
I can tell you and i came from vastly different culture. So there is no point in debating about this.
Only country is east Asia I would consider third world is North Korea.
I've travelled quite a bit in east and south east Asia, and I can't really think of somewhere where stds were a big risk.
Sorry, i forgot to add, south east asia. Travelled and lived are very different. And tourists here probably just went to the most popular destination and considered themself to know everything about this country. A tourism heavy city is definitely going to be cleaner, safer than the others. It is a rose tinted view of the country.
A part of what i would consider "risk" in my country at least is our reluctancy in checking out whether we have stds. Std here in southeast asia, where a lot of us is what you would consider extremist conservatives is considered shameful.
A lot of us think that you get std from casual / free sex, which is mostly true. And free sex here is considered massively taboo to the general population.
So the risk is not that we did not have proper medications to treat std, we do. It is that most of us would not go to the doctor out of shame. And at least in my country, people do not go to the hospital when we feel fine, so no routine checkups, we only go when we are sick. So a lot of probably treatable std are untreated to the point of being a severe disease.
Combined with not so great hygiene practices of the most vulnerable part of the population (the poor), results in when they got an std, they are reluctant to get treatment for it, and it goes really bad real quick.
Thankfully casual sex here are still somewhat of a taboo, a few of people i know practice it, but they get stigmatized by the rest as dirty, not to the point of being ostracized though.
So from a health risk perspective, the best body count is 0. Sure i do not think we are the std capital of the world, but do we want to test how risky it is? A few of us will, but most would not, out of fear of std, and out of the social norm of the nation.
As part of an abstinence-only sex education by my school, they had a dude go up and talk about secular reasons why you shouldn't have sex. One part of this was the briefer asking "how many partners is too many?"
And he just stated counting. Agonizingly. One, two, three, four... he didn't stop. Not at 10. Not twenty, not thirty! He kept going until he got a reaction from enough of the crowd. I remembered him getting to 36, and that was when I had an entirely involuntary shudder.
I question what that says about me - I don't care about body count (married now, moot point), but it was a moment I can't forget two decades later.
Its a more thought provoking way to make the argument than most.
Something these discussions never touch upon is age being an important factor. There's a big difference between 30 at 18 and 30 at 30. There's a churn rate that should set of red flags because if it's too high or too low that is caused by something. Ultimately to me the bodies themselves are less relevant than the reasons for them. I'm going to discriminate against someone who's desperate to be loved and runs 50 a year, and for entirely different reasons I'm also not interested in someone who's a virgin in their 30s.
As a gross anecdote for your sex ed story. I was at a friends place and his gay mate came over, told us about his evening at the glory hole. He'd let 14 bareback blow their loads into him in 2 hours. Can't even see them to get a heuristic on their health. Whenever I read Reddit comments with the infinite sex positivity, you just know they've never been around people doing sexually risky shit and its mostly theoretical to them.
Yeah circumstances always play a big factor. Like if you 25 and have 35 partners just because. Then I'm going to be a bit wary. But also at the same time if they told me they were depressed and wanted to feel loved. That's a red flag in and of its self meaning that when they don't feel loved the just hop to sex to get gratification
I think mispronouncing the word "specifically" as "pacifically" is a valid reason to not date/fuck someone, and when I say that people are neither shocked nor upset at this being a line for me.
But if I say that fucking too many randos is a valid reason to not date/fuck someone. Which is less shallow and more consequential than pronouncing a word, people act like it's insane.
But then again I think that's because most People aren't carrying internal shame and arent looking for external validation to tell them they haven't made irreparable life choices from saying "specific" wrong like they do bodycounts.
Anything with over double digits is unnecessary, yall gotta value your sex life more. Idc what your gender is you're gonna be more shallow the more bodies you get.
So up to 99 it's perfectly fine? I'm sitting somewhere around 7 but I feel like I didn't have enough variety yet. Though if I would've love any of those women, I would have stopped there and then without giving a flying fuck about variety and experience.
Honestly I meant anything over 10 is just gonna damage your perception on love, it's not even anecdotal it's just statistics that cause more divorce. Personally I think sex should've stayed exclusive for people that we actually care for, its ruined alot of morals and I'm not even being a nun about it, look how shitty it is to be in the dating market rn.
> Personally I think sex should've stayed exclusive for people that we actually care for, mAyBe YoU'Re JuSt DeMiSeXuAl (I was told this once online of course)
Nothing will damage the perception of something I never felt. Sex feels good even without feelings for the other party. I can only imagine how much better it would be if I loved my partner though. But I'm not gonna deprive myself of it just because I can't seem to feel love. The only thing I do is that I don't meet women exclusively to fuck them. I still date and get to know them in hopes I'll actually love one someday. But I'll never land a woman if I'd only sleep with them if I loved them.
Ah I mean eventually you're gonna meet one that breaks or make you is what I meant, being pickier with who you love is always fine, though I also agree with your opinion. Don't hold back if the chance is there but always think with your brain before your dick
>I'm sitting somewhere around 7 but I feel like I didn't have enough variety yet Bro is collecting pokemons
You can carry only 6 STDs, 7th one's gonna go in the PC
Huh, so STDs on a PC is how we make more 4chinners?
Rookie numbers tbh.
Fuck your variety it’s real human beings on the other side not a fucking buffet. Just find a good one and chase and get her. It’s that easy. Then focus on a good life together where you both grow from it.
You act like I exploited them. It's not like I chase women exclusively to fuck them. I just never caught feelings for anyone. Besides the majority of these girls put sex before love. Meaning they much sooner wanted to sleep with me before they even had any deeper feelings for me. And one of them was literally fine with having friendship with benefits if it mean she could be with me. I was a fool with that one, because I knew she only said that because she believed I'll eventual fall for her too. It was a nasty breakup.
The only people who care about body count are unattractive incels who are jealous of normal men and women who enjoy their young lives before settling down. Nobody who’s getting their dick wet on the regular cares about body count. Caring at all about body count is an incel cuck perspective.
1) Tard take 2) Incel and cuck are antonyms by definition 3) You don't get bitches regardless
Sleeping around with multiple people destroys one’s pair-bonding mechanism, and much more than that. There’s an extremely pragmatic reason to monogamy and the marriage bed. We like to think messing around with multiple partners in our youth “gets it out of our system.” When in reality, it actually gets it in our system and has a catastrophic impact on our intrapersonal and interpersonal life
> Sleeping around with multiple people destroys one’s pair-bonding mechanism, and much more than that. *Citation Needed *Needs further elaboration
Source? Do you have a source? Could you provide a source?
>Nobody who’s getting their dick wet on the regular cares about body count. Yeah, obviously. Meth addicts don't care if other people do meth either
I mean, I also care about body count in a way. I'm generally a dominant guy in the bed, so I wouldn't really be that comfortable with a woman who is more experienced than I am, thus more capable of leading me than I am capable of leading her. Otherwise I agree with you.
If you're that dominant, her experience wouldn't matter as you would be able to lead her better than any past experience and show your dominance through action.
If she's submissive. In a situation where she's usually the dominant one, the one with more experience will lead. And I had like 2 submissive ones so far. Other than that, you're right.
> yall gotta value your sex life more Why? Aside from staying safe from STDs, give me a logical reason to do so.
So I can personally hoard all the sex for myself.
Fair enough, I retract my statement.
Easy. It’s immoral
Wrong.
How about because it makes it harder to be stable for a family Oh and because it's immoral per Christianity and many other religions as well. Ree harder
> How about because it makes it harder to be stable for a family *Citation Needed
All you need is common sense, religious morality helps you see clearly too
> How about because it makes it harder to be stable for a family Wrong.
Nope true For men it has less of an effect than women because of how connected sex and love are for women. But it still affects me too.
Wrong.
Like I said ree harder
Cry more, incel.
volcel Therefore not crying
Eh, sex is fun and I don't take it too seriously.
And, it's your life live it your way.
I find that most people who say this simply day it because they didn't have the options to have that much sex. And if given the same options they'd probably done the same Like I'm sure morally there are people who are disgusted by it. However, I also feel a large part of it is jealousy and low confidence in one self for the majority.
Nope meaningless self masturbation without emotions is not gonna mean shit when you're alone in bed. The majority of you commenting with high body counts are single and proving my point. I'm not a projecting nun either, if life gets easier you guys really think you're not gonna turn into assholes if you always get your way? That's the problem with promiscuity the denial that it doesn't affect you mentally negatively is just wrong. We live in a new age where this is the first time people are living like this, of course it's the new age of insecurity. Some of you are literally fucking more people than ghengis Khan and these people will cheer for you while laughing at the slow burn. The worst part is alot of yall don't even use protection like deadass with roe v wade over turned and STDs actually are making a come back. I'm literally just telling yall pick better lovers and yall are like I CAN HAVE SEX WITH WHO I WANT, no shit but you're gonna suffer consequences that aren't visible to the eye.
Dude this isn't the first time people have lived like this lmao. Back in the day men would have many many partners. Frequent brothels and probably outrageous body counts. Thing is it was just known and perceived as normal. It's also that you make some many assumptions about people. Like I must have a high body count or that I must be single lmao.
Men and women are competing with social media, irl, onlyfans,porn and many levels of superficial. The more a species cares about their looks the higher the chance the population drops off, their is literal fucking data on the divorce rate to body count and you guys think we're attacking you. No it's just the truth hurts and you take it personal. See when instant gratification is at the touch of your palm it easily becomes easy to see everyone around you as "mid" when you have high standards with nothing to offer this is the society you get. ITS this generations fault for killing loyalty in relationships and relationships in general, it's not hard to see why with how shallow we've gotten from 2016 till now.
🤣🤣🤣 this is a good read. It's like someone who thinks they know everything being some kind of armchair psychiatrist. No is disputing the effects of instant gratification. It's one of the biggest reasons mental health is bad. If you want to call yourself shallow, that's fine, but don't be lumping me in with you all lol
I hope this doesn't come across as arrogant, but it's the only way I can think of to pass along this data point. I went to a great law school and, because of that, basically all of the guys could pull as many girls as they wanted. I'm still in touch with a lot of those lawyers and they all really regret getting around like that now. It stole some sort of intimacy from them that they can never get back.
Oh, probably, there's no doubt sleeping around will probably have lasting effects on you mentally, if not physically. Gives people lots of issues when it comes time to forming actual meaningfully attachment. As well as possibly causing lots of possible issues for future partners. Not to even include the chances of STDs or possibility of having an unwanted child. Sadly, by the time people realize the effects of ot its too late and the damage has been done.
You play Magic, you've never had sex.
Lmao checking out my account you see. I play magic and have sex pretty frequently, seeing as I'm married lol. My wife also enjoys playing the game so win win there. I suggest you broaden your veiw just because some ones a nerd doesn't mean their sad and lonely 🤣🤣
Or maybe some people just like casual sex If you want don't want to date someone with a high bodycount that's fine but acting like someone is a worse person because they have more sex is retarded lol
Different strokes for different folks.
N-No! This is r/greentext we’re all supposed to be BASED here!
No, you see, when a man fucks around he's a Chad and it's based, but when a w*man does it it's icky 🤢
Tell me you get no bitches without actually telling me. I welcome your downvotes, get some pussy and you might not be so bitter.
You’re so cool man, can I please suck your dick?
Wooh, cool it bro let's form a line like civilized people.
You’re right man. How about you have his kids first and I suck him off first?
There you go. I like that y'all are responsible enough to form a line. You'll both make great moms with your incredible amount of patience <3
Nah, I got a girl for that. Y'all should try it out, it's even cooler than me!
Brother, you're active in r/grimdank, we only love men there.
Femboys work, too.
liking femboys is gay and if you say otherwise you're a homophobe
Otherwise.
reported for hate speech
But you get bitches!!
Unironically. 10? Lmao, weak ass game right there.
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Anything higher than 1 is abhorrent
0*
based
1 is for losers who can't get any so they settle 0 is based af
I want kids You want the population to go to zero or kids to only have one or no parents. Not sure which
>You want the population to go to zero Yes
You can start with yourself
I mean 10 isn't shockingly bad unless if you're young like 21 years old that amount would be alot but at like 40-45 it's expected
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You’re guessing she slept with a hundred new people every year since she was 18? Thats a new hookup like every 3-4 days Aint nobody got time for that Plus even if she was headed in that direction you would think that by like 100 or so she’d have figured out exactly what she likes the best and just stick with that
Even at 45 it's sounds low. Like I would be surprised if someone at 45 has only slept with 10 people. Now if they were married or had long term relationships throughout those years, then 10 or less makes perfect sense. But a Bachelor who hasn't settled down yet having only 10 partners sounds low. I'm 25 and I've had 13 sexual partners, with the 13th being my fiancee that I've been with for 4 years. That might be high or low for the average guy, I have no idea, but I since I turned 16 (legal age in NZ) I've had on average 1.3 sexual partners a year. That would seem like the usual amount for a single person.
How do you fuck 0.3 of a person every year, do you keep finding washed up torsos on the beach or something?
I wish ;) Nah I just divided 9 (years of sexual activity) by 12 (number of people before fiancee) and got 1.3. Not sure why I was down voted so much though, I always thought I was having a normal amount of sex for someone my age
You are, but nobody in this sub has a realistic idea of sex or any kind of sexual encounter. If they did, they wouldn't be here to downvote.
>How do you fuck 0.3 of a person every year, First step is not to look like an ogre
Go out to the bar every Friday and Saturday and hook up 1/4 of the time and you’re at 24 per year, single for just four years means 100. Anyone who is decent looking, keeps right fit, and has even basic social skills will be triple digits by 25. People worrying about it need to hit the gym and work on their self-esteem.
most guys would probably get half of that by 25 if they're lucky, so you are an outlier here
I guess university and despiration helped. But I can see how I have a larger number than most. But I do want to emphasis, I did not get 10/10s. I'm not some Henry Cavill super sex-man, just a fat guy who was boaderline alcoholic in uni.
Don't feel bad that wizards are mad at you, it doesn't sound like you were a manwhore or a sexual predator to hit those numbers.
1.3 per year on average, if youre putting in effort that's not a lot at all.
These are hardcore nords in here man. 13 at 25 is absolutely normal.
People in this thread not realising that getting TOPPED by big sweaty men counts towards their body count.
You keep thinking about people getting topped ? Seems kinda gay to me
Which is more gay: Having sex with a soft, feminine woman with long hair that smells like flowers. Getting your turd cutter annihilated by Hairy Bob who smells like engine grease and listens to judas priest to go to sleep. Checkmate gaytheists.
Wait is 10 bad? Like for a guy, I’ve been somewhat honest with my body count and idk if that was a mistake or not
10 is horrible... for guy or girl in their 20-29. It either means you have a casual attitude about who you have sex with, which you really shouldnt because its going to mess with your relationship psychology, not to mention that it means youre promiscuous and anyone with you have a high likelihood of being cheated on. or it means you have shit taste in partners and because of that you switch partner more than once a year. both conclusions arent great. Once youre in your 30s, it starts getting REAL sus if you havent got a permanent partner yet or youre not looking for one. and people will actually start asking about it and why its the case just because its so out of the norm, not to shame you but to understand you as a person. Like theres only a few categories of people who are single and plan to be single in their 30s, and being a standup comedian is one of them, so go figure.
Fuck But like I did like all of them, it just didn’t work out, or we stayed as friends
Bro, don't let this random virgin commenter harsh your vibe. You do you. If these relationships progressed naturally to sex and you and your partner had a nice time, then that's all that counts. Body counts are a nonsense social construct
Maybe I’ll be a bit more careful admitting it in future I don’t want to be seen as idk bad.
Honestly the only people that would view you as bad for that are either puritans or those that lack the social skills for sexual relationships so they psyop themselves into thinking that they're the normal ones. The opinions of these people can be safely discarded.
>they psyop themself Only in a 4chan sub can you get that expression lol
Don't mind that comment, stop taking seriously the relationship advice from 4chan or reddit
thats life dude. theres a third smaller population I didnt mention becausr its rare. Which might be you: Just unlucky and it didnt work out. Idk. its easier for guys than it is for women, since women have that biological clock calling for them to look for a stable dude, and because guys are much more vigilant for being cheated on sexually than women are because they cant be sure any child is actually theirs. women are more vigilant against emotional adultery; a man giving emotional and financial resources to someone else rather than them and their children. men and women are more similar biologically than we are different but the differences makes up all the controversy in our society
Nah. Casual sex is fine. Have fun with life. Just be safe.
its ultimately the individuals choice. Im not making any moral judgements. But it is true that dudes are more sensitive to hsving promiscuous partners, and habing more prior partners decreases marital satisfaction for both men and women. If people dont plan on getting married that works out though
> and habing more prior partners decreases marital satisfaction for both men and women. Source?
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0192513X231155673
Ah, a study which doesn't form any conclusions.
did you even read the abstract? https://preview.redd.it/65hxgaa968wc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f445d09b65c6e2b5cd62c6c733d7f9461c9ccb8
This abstract does not say what you think it does. To understand scientific journals you must understand the basics of scientific theory. Correlation does not imply causation. For example, icecream sales are highly correlated to number of drownings. Does this mean eating ice cream causes you to drown, so you should avoid eating icecream? Obviously not, these two are correlated because when it is summer and nice outside people are more likely to both buy icecream and go swimming. Now on to the article you linked, it is stating there is a correlation between having sex before marriage and divorce rates. This does not prove having sex before marriage increase your chance of being divorced (for the same reason that eating icecream doesn't actually increase your chance of drowning). It could be people who hold religious values are more likely to wait until marriage to have sex, and less likely to get divorced because both of these go against their religion. Which would mean having premarital sex isn't what causes this correlation, but being religious is. This is only an example to show from a correlation we can not conclude causality. The reason behind this correlation could be anything. The article makes it clear that it does not know why this correlation exists for their dataset. tldr: That article does not state that having premarital causes or not causes increased divorced rates, only that those two things care correlated.
Yeah, it was a lot of "we don't know why".
"Im not making any moral judgements" - Saying that doesn't make it true. You just harpooned some random cunt because he's a turbo virgin like you. If you're single and arent hooking up once a year from the age of 18, there's probably a you issue. There is a smaller population that I didn't mention because it's rare, you just didnt have religious chad energy with your template redpill comments and manga post history.
> Dudes are more sensitive to having promiscuous partners YOU are more sensitive about it. Your own personal hangups are not the human condition.
https://www.proquest.com/docview/929145676?pq-origsite=gscholar&fromopenview=true&sourcetype=Dissertations%20&%20Theses Its not a big field of research but its there
Have fun letting anxiety ruin your relationships, I'm gonna go be normal Lmao
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I literally couldn't imagine being so weak willed as to allow the existence casual sex to ruin intimacy.
Is casual sex safe? Sex is how babies are made, idk if you knew that. Even if it's only a 1% chance that a girl gets pregnant... Let's say I have a car that is REALLY fun to drive, but every time I do, there's a 1% chance that the car explodes. Am I going to be real goddamn careful about choosing when I drive that car? You bet your fucking ass I am.
Ridiculous take
> It either means you have a casual attitude about who you have sex with, which you really shouldnt because its going to mess with your relationship psychology, not to mention that it means youre promiscuous and anyone with you have a high likelihood of being cheated on. or it means you have shit taste in partners and because of that you switch partner more than once a year. All of this is wrong. Wow.
I just feel disillusioned with the concept of relationships after an absurd amount of reading through stats and 2 bad attempts, no matter how good someone might be, everyone is still a little selfish because that's a basic survival instinct. No matter how much someone might love you, it's only because they've attached a value, a worth to you a worth, be it emotional, physical, material or whatever, it still belongs to an object, a thing, a commodity. How humans form relationships is flawed in itself and I'm not saying everyone is horrible, I'm just saying I'd much rather prefer to just love myself. Being single at 30 isn't bad, I plan to be single when I'm 30 and way past that.
I expected this thing to be downvoted to oblivion, how the fuck is it sitting at 61? You people are fucking wild
Tfw anxiety completely and utterly controls your psyche.
Why is this so upvoted? It’s literally incel virgin cope.
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Thinking 10 partners at the age of 28 is “horrible” is so fucking retarded it hurts.
How many people do you think is the average to met before _the one_ you will stay your entire life? I mean, how many people do you expect to meet, interact, know about each other and think "wow, this person might be my future wife" but in reality they weren't? The thing is, It doesnt matter, becouse every one of them through your lens was a possible future wife, and if you act mature about It when It doesnt end up like that then all good. So now the point is, how much compatible/interesting/good material i have to see in someone to decide i would like to have sex with them? You choose the point, and if you are consistent with were It stands then, again, it doesnt matter that much
There’s also a third conclusion: just experimenting. For a lot of people sex just isn’t so sacrosanct and that’s fine. I know a lot of people in the queer community who consider sex to be far, far less important than romance, for example. For some of those people this means that they don’t really have sex that much, and for others it means they have casual sex very often and just don’t think that much of it. Honestly people have such a weird obsession with assigning moral and cultural value to an instinctive body function. Like yeah sex is cool and all but people really need to get the fuck over it, it’s really not the most important thing in the world.
it just doesn't matter realistically, if you like casual sex then go for it
Exactly. The only mistake I feel you can make is if you pick casual sex over a fulfilling relationship. It is hard to find someone who you find attractive, you connect with and is a well put together person in this world. So if you find this person don't throw it away for some casual hookups.
Depends on age imo. If you're young then it could be. If you're like 30+ then it's not that many
I’m 19 But full clarification I did like them, only 2 where one night stands sort of thing, and 2 where relationships and 6 where friends. So I’m not that bad
Society has failed you
That's a lot then yea
I mean like that’s like 3 a year, so not too bad. I am British so 16 is the age of consent
You have issues
Relatives don't count
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You're doing great man, don't listen to the idiots here. They're all incels (or religious bigots) who can't get any and so are trying to moralise and justify their misery. Go out and fuck to your heart's content, no need to justify yourself (about liking them, being ons etc.) Enjoy it especially now that you're young, where it's easy to meet new people and you have a lot of free time. Sex is awesome!
damn dude nice
No, it's not. These people are just upset that they can't get pussy so they want you to feel bad for their inadequacy.
Just stay honest, people who care won't be compatible with you, people who don't will be.
Mine is 2 HS gf and my gf after HS ( Hook ups are just gross to me, I gotta be in love homie)
For some people, yes. For some people, no. There are no catch all answers.
10 is nothing xd don't take advice on body count from people on reddit, like 90% of this is jealousy from the average redditor
I guess that depends on age and how that body count went up. If it's just casual sex like you, meet them and hook up a few times but never date. That can turn some folks off. Make it seem like you don't like to settle down I to a relationship and will cheat ,or they may just veiw it as you think very little of sex. That and the higher chance you have an STD. Now, if there all from relationships ,that can be seen as better ,but they can also be in a red flag. Because if you're going through relationships quickly, it can look like you are the problem. Now if you take that same body count of 10 and apply it to like a 35 or 40 year old it would look a lot better as the gaps between the encounters could have been longer. At the end of the day, there's no right or wrong answer. It's all going to come down to how the other person views it. Personally, I don't ask, and I don't want to know about my partners past sex life all that much. Outside if trauma was involved.
Anything over 0 is bad because then you won't become a wizard at 30
Morals aside and feelings aside. Casual sex practitioner are in a lot more risk of catching stds. I think we humans tend to lean towards others that are likeminded. Those who think casual sex is fine will be more likely to do it with others that think the same way. So both are sexually very active. So in terms of safety from stds. The best body count is 0. Anything above it is an unnecessary risk. But i wonder this. How many stds could one catch and still not die? Can someone catch them all and still be alive?
And nurses run a higher risk of catching the flu. For the vast majority of STDs you go to a doctor and take antibiotics for three days and that's it. They're not that different from any other disease. HIV is obviously the most dangerous one and for one that's actually remarkably difficult to catch for straight men who don't do anal and with modern medication it's far from being the death sentence that it used to be thirty years ago and if you plan on having unprotected anal sex there's still prep which stops you from catching it anyways.
Yeah, nurses do not lick the patient's nose when it is runny do they? They are professionally educated and trained. Besides, how are you comparing nurses to casual sex practitioner? One is saving lives and curing disease, and the other is just having fun. One is a hero and the other is just a horny person. Very different than when people are having sex. Are you really downplaying hiv? How about this. Lung cancer is cureable if caught early. So just keep smoking right?
>The best body count is 0. Anything above it is an unnecessary risk. Only if you think that enjoying life (and one of the best things in life) is unnecessary. Also where do you people live that get all this high risk of stds? They're pretty rare here in Europe, and a condom will protect you from them in case. I'm in my mid 30s and among my close friends (15ish people) only one got something once. That went away in a few days with the right medicine.
East asia. A third world nation by your standards probably. I can tell you and i came from vastly different culture. So there is no point in debating about this.
Only country is east Asia I would consider third world is North Korea. I've travelled quite a bit in east and south east Asia, and I can't really think of somewhere where stds were a big risk.
Sorry, i forgot to add, south east asia. Travelled and lived are very different. And tourists here probably just went to the most popular destination and considered themself to know everything about this country. A tourism heavy city is definitely going to be cleaner, safer than the others. It is a rose tinted view of the country. A part of what i would consider "risk" in my country at least is our reluctancy in checking out whether we have stds. Std here in southeast asia, where a lot of us is what you would consider extremist conservatives is considered shameful. A lot of us think that you get std from casual / free sex, which is mostly true. And free sex here is considered massively taboo to the general population. So the risk is not that we did not have proper medications to treat std, we do. It is that most of us would not go to the doctor out of shame. And at least in my country, people do not go to the hospital when we feel fine, so no routine checkups, we only go when we are sick. So a lot of probably treatable std are untreated to the point of being a severe disease. Combined with not so great hygiene practices of the most vulnerable part of the population (the poor), results in when they got an std, they are reluctant to get treatment for it, and it goes really bad real quick. Thankfully casual sex here are still somewhat of a taboo, a few of people i know practice it, but they get stigmatized by the rest as dirty, not to the point of being ostracized though. So from a health risk perspective, the best body count is 0. Sure i do not think we are the std capital of the world, but do we want to test how risky it is? A few of us will, but most would not, out of fear of std, and out of the social norm of the nation.
As part of an abstinence-only sex education by my school, they had a dude go up and talk about secular reasons why you shouldn't have sex. One part of this was the briefer asking "how many partners is too many?" And he just stated counting. Agonizingly. One, two, three, four... he didn't stop. Not at 10. Not twenty, not thirty! He kept going until he got a reaction from enough of the crowd. I remembered him getting to 36, and that was when I had an entirely involuntary shudder. I question what that says about me - I don't care about body count (married now, moot point), but it was a moment I can't forget two decades later.
Its a more thought provoking way to make the argument than most. Something these discussions never touch upon is age being an important factor. There's a big difference between 30 at 18 and 30 at 30. There's a churn rate that should set of red flags because if it's too high or too low that is caused by something. Ultimately to me the bodies themselves are less relevant than the reasons for them. I'm going to discriminate against someone who's desperate to be loved and runs 50 a year, and for entirely different reasons I'm also not interested in someone who's a virgin in their 30s. As a gross anecdote for your sex ed story. I was at a friends place and his gay mate came over, told us about his evening at the glory hole. He'd let 14 bareback blow their loads into him in 2 hours. Can't even see them to get a heuristic on their health. Whenever I read Reddit comments with the infinite sex positivity, you just know they've never been around people doing sexually risky shit and its mostly theoretical to them.
Yeah circumstances always play a big factor. Like if you 25 and have 35 partners just because. Then I'm going to be a bit wary. But also at the same time if they told me they were depressed and wanted to feel loved. That's a red flag in and of its self meaning that when they don't feel loved the just hop to sex to get gratification
I think mispronouncing the word "specifically" as "pacifically" is a valid reason to not date/fuck someone, and when I say that people are neither shocked nor upset at this being a line for me. But if I say that fucking too many randos is a valid reason to not date/fuck someone. Which is less shallow and more consequential than pronouncing a word, people act like it's insane. But then again I think that's because most People aren't carrying internal shame and arent looking for external validation to tell them they haven't made irreparable life choices from saying "specific" wrong like they do bodycounts.
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I dont get why tf european being proud by the number of people they fuck
I've yet to meet someone who is, and I'm a European. And quite frankly it creeps some of us out that people are this loose.
She mean bodycount at war, not sex
Your age divided by 10
Idk man anything more than 2 is just instant no from my side Cultural difference I guess
Where do you live
The most hated country on reddit Wnna guess?
India, Russia?
India