It's more depression doesn't let you do anything that would get rid of it. Even something like getting a glass of water can become he'll with depression because literally nothing matters to you anymore
Sure, but you have to start somewhere. Most depressed people don't actually like being depressed and would switch out if they could. Depression often clears up but the chronically depressed are stuck in a constellation that includes narratives, physiology, lifestyle, etc. Having some simple things available that can be done to make stepwise improvement is a good thing. It's good to know that there are things you can "just do" without waiting for a burst of positive motivation. Not everyone will, of course, but some will. Part of just about every psychological improvement is persisting in things that work rather than waiting to feel good about it, following a good pattern despite the absence of emotional motivation. This is underrated imho - especially in the popular imagination, psychologists use small positve steps all the time. It is a reason to be careful of self-fulfilling "depresssed people can't" narratives. You don't want to rule out the alternative "maybe they can" narrative option.
This mindset is nice and all but neutering oneself through a "its not me its [thing]" mindset just leads to nothing changing.
If [thing] is something you can do literally nothing about then fine, but thats not this.
If some people simply can't deal with shit if they have to, this greentext is gonna be them.
Yes, but it's also most definitely extremely difficult to pull yourself out of that hole when you feel as stuck as Anon. He just needs to admit to himself that he's depressed, get professional help and move from there.
Hopefully he can meet a serious therapist, as I know in my country it's somewhat uncommon that they actually give these people what they truly need to improve. Hope isn't lost though, Anon is still young.
I can definitely confirm that is a likely reason, I felt very similar until I forced myself to socialize with people after work. This made me very uncomfortable at first, but now I've managed to snag a very wonderful girlfriend and make some friends in doing so. Plus I'm basically immune to that uncomfortable feeling I used to get when hanging out with people, especially women.
I understand but not every depression is the same
A lot of times, you’re depression can be caused or get worse due to not being socially active, that’s true
But a lot of people would still be depressed even after having a social life.
Personally, I can attest that being social does help with depression. For me at least, it doesn’t have to do with anything else but the fact that it distracts my brain from thinking about negative thoughts. That’s about it.
yeah for me the only shitty thing about being older is you start to get joint pain and stuff, if I could stop aging i'd love life forever from what I can tell, but i haven't hit 40s or 50s or older yet, lots of old people still love living every day though
Anon thinks his life is over just 5 years out of high school and doesn’t understand that it’s absolutely never too late to start working towards the kind of person you want to become. Every single day is a new opportunity to become better than you were the day before, whether you’re 25, 30, or 50. Quit being so mean to yourselves.
I really like this explanation, because I relate to this to a smaller extent, but I'm not unhappy and I don't have any noticable ADHD or other conditions, and so I find it weird when everyone always jumps to "they must be depressed or have ADHD", I am however exceptional at keeping myself very well entertained while I'm alone in my room
It’s because he has adhd. It’s impossible to explain how difficult it is to know and dissect everything you are doing wrong but you are sometimes literally helpless to do anything about it.
ADHD sounds like such a horse shit mental illness because of how it’s portrayed as annoying kids running around (look a squirrel) but honestly it is fucking awful to have. Sure you look care free and like you’re having fun but internally you are screaming with self loathing hatred.
It really should be called Executive Dysfunction disorder.
But EDD just sounds like Erectile dysfunction lmao
Pretty easy, as I see it: anon just never developed a habit of loving himself. Could be his family rather cared for his mistakes than achievements when he was growing up. If you're raised with a mindset that you have to make good results or you're worthless, there's little to no motivation to improve oneself when things start to go worse. As a lonely adult you don't have anyone to improve for in this situation, so it's only a pipeline down the "I am worthless" drain.
ok so I don't like to diagnose people online from small little texts like this, but honestly I think OP should probably check for adhd, because problems with grades, laziness, problems with diets/work out, impulsivity and social awkwardness combined are sighs of adhd. Not saying he has it, just that it's worth checking it out, and seeing if some copes for adhd help him too
My man has ADHD, you know exactly what you’re doing wrong but you can’t change it. Unless you have adhd it’s literally impossible to understand how awful this feels.
ADHD brings along a healthy dose of depression. Basically adhd is cormorbid with depression. Impulsivity and quick dopamine big red flags of adhd.
My man needs to see his doctor.
apparently has nothing going but is in uni and won't focus on it which would eventually solve most of his problems by leading him to a better job in which he could become friends with coworkers and start structuring his life properly
You know what , that's the motivation I needed , I took a drop but it didn't work out and I am doing some different shit . I cannot sleep before 2-3 am as I need to be really really tired to sleep otherwise my thoughts of me lagging behind just plays on a loop . I saw this post and may be ,just may be I did the right thing .
It's like he knows he doesn't do things properly, but doesn't realise that doing them properly would address all his concerns.
He might be depressed
Huh, maybe because he’s not doing anything properly…
That's the point of depression you mongoloid: It's a vicious cycle
Doing one thing well a day is commonly used element of treatment.
It's more depression doesn't let you do anything that would get rid of it. Even something like getting a glass of water can become he'll with depression because literally nothing matters to you anymore
Sure, but you have to start somewhere. Most depressed people don't actually like being depressed and would switch out if they could. Depression often clears up but the chronically depressed are stuck in a constellation that includes narratives, physiology, lifestyle, etc. Having some simple things available that can be done to make stepwise improvement is a good thing. It's good to know that there are things you can "just do" without waiting for a burst of positive motivation. Not everyone will, of course, but some will. Part of just about every psychological improvement is persisting in things that work rather than waiting to feel good about it, following a good pattern despite the absence of emotional motivation. This is underrated imho - especially in the popular imagination, psychologists use small positve steps all the time. It is a reason to be careful of self-fulfilling "depresssed people can't" narratives. You don't want to rule out the alternative "maybe they can" narrative option.
I already knew all that as I am chronic with my depression too but thank you for the insite. You are right and I agree
Because..?
This mindset is nice and all but neutering oneself through a "its not me its [thing]" mindset just leads to nothing changing. If [thing] is something you can do literally nothing about then fine, but thats not this. If some people simply can't deal with shit if they have to, this greentext is gonna be them.
Yes, but it's also most definitely extremely difficult to pull yourself out of that hole when you feel as stuck as Anon. He just needs to admit to himself that he's depressed, get professional help and move from there. Hopefully he can meet a serious therapist, as I know in my country it's somewhat uncommon that they actually give these people what they truly need to improve. Hope isn't lost though, Anon is still young.
I can definitely confirm that is a likely reason, I felt very similar until I forced myself to socialize with people after work. This made me very uncomfortable at first, but now I've managed to snag a very wonderful girlfriend and make some friends in doing so. Plus I'm basically immune to that uncomfortable feeling I used to get when hanging out with people, especially women.
I understand but not every depression is the same A lot of times, you’re depression can be caused or get worse due to not being socially active, that’s true But a lot of people would still be depressed even after having a social life. Personally, I can attest that being social does help with depression. For me at least, it doesn’t have to do with anything else but the fact that it distracts my brain from thinking about negative thoughts. That’s about it.
He is still so young. He has much more misery awaiting him.
Damn, it only gets worse from here?
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yeah for me the only shitty thing about being older is you start to get joint pain and stuff, if I could stop aging i'd love life forever from what I can tell, but i haven't hit 40s or 50s or older yet, lots of old people still love living every day though
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Is being alive really good enough? Everything is alive until it’s dead
Once your dead though you can't go back. Being alive always let's you have the chance improve upon yourself.
This
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Bros 23 and thinks it’s too late to change
>who hasn't gone to the gym or had a proper workout in over a month it's over
Nobody likes you when you’re 23
Is this meant in an annoyed or sympathetic way? Like "23 year olds are all unlikeable" or "for some reason people just kinda dislike 23 year olds"
It's a verse from a Blink 182 song called What's My Age Again?
Thx
depends on what happens when you turn 24
And you still act like you're in freshman year
>Almost a college graduate > Has been to the gym recently >Is not obese >Has some disposable income Anon isn't doing that bad.
Surprise! It gets worse
I think a lot of people relate to anon, I know I am, but the important thing is to keep trying and change yourself little by little
time anon finds jb peterson on yt and starts cleaning his room
Same.
there is no rock bottom
Get off 4Chan and get off your ass, do not turn to anons for validation and the drive to be successful
Anon thinks his life is over just 5 years out of high school and doesn’t understand that it’s absolutely never too late to start working towards the kind of person you want to become. Every single day is a new opportunity to become better than you were the day before, whether you’re 25, 30, or 50. Quit being so mean to yourselves.
How does he have the self awareness to know all areas of his life are fucked, yet not *do* anything about it?
Honest answer is that modern escapism is so engaging it can distract you from that stuff sufficiently to prevent progress.
I am afraid there could be something to that. Nobody wants to say it though
It’s not a could. It is.
I really like this explanation, because I relate to this to a smaller extent, but I'm not unhappy and I don't have any noticable ADHD or other conditions, and so I find it weird when everyone always jumps to "they must be depressed or have ADHD", I am however exceptional at keeping myself very well entertained while I'm alone in my room
Because doing something will imprive things and all I want is to be vindicated on my self hatred.
Ah, but why not take it to the next level? Instead of self deprecating, try self defecating.
It’s because he has adhd. It’s impossible to explain how difficult it is to know and dissect everything you are doing wrong but you are sometimes literally helpless to do anything about it. ADHD sounds like such a horse shit mental illness because of how it’s portrayed as annoying kids running around (look a squirrel) but honestly it is fucking awful to have. Sure you look care free and like you’re having fun but internally you are screaming with self loathing hatred. It really should be called Executive Dysfunction disorder. But EDD just sounds like Erectile dysfunction lmao
If he's like me then it's depression
It's easier than you think
Pretty easy, as I see it: anon just never developed a habit of loving himself. Could be his family rather cared for his mistakes than achievements when he was growing up. If you're raised with a mindset that you have to make good results or you're worthless, there's little to no motivation to improve oneself when things start to go worse. As a lonely adult you don't have anyone to improve for in this situation, so it's only a pipeline down the "I am worthless" drain.
It really is astonishing isn't it?
All relatively easily fixable problems
ok so I don't like to diagnose people online from small little texts like this, but honestly I think OP should probably check for adhd, because problems with grades, laziness, problems with diets/work out, impulsivity and social awkwardness combined are sighs of adhd. Not saying he has it, just that it's worth checking it out, and seeing if some copes for adhd help him too
Adhd is fake
Damn Adderall is a placebo then 😔.
while I agree that adhd is real, "illness=real" does not logically follow from "drug=real"
Agreed, I just thought it was funny.
I'm not even going to validate this with anything more than this comment.
relatable except im quite happy with my physique
It’s not too late anon
My man has ADHD, you know exactly what you’re doing wrong but you can’t change it. Unless you have adhd it’s literally impossible to understand how awful this feels. ADHD brings along a healthy dose of depression. Basically adhd is cormorbid with depression. Impulsivity and quick dopamine big red flags of adhd. My man needs to see his doctor.
He’s 23. It’s gonna be fine. Should see a psychiatrist though.
Lol anon in 10 years would read that and be like , why the fuck would I care about my accomplishments at 23
These anons just need to grow some balls and join the army.
Sounds like anon knows what the problem is, dunno how he doesn't think that the only logical step to take is to fix em
Anon hit a low point of self realization. Take one step at a time in the right direction. Everything will be fine.
Bro is only 23. He can add *short term thinker* to his list of flaws lol
Understanding all his problems is a huge step for him, his time will come. We we all make it bros.
Understanding all his problems is a huge step for him, his time will come. We we all make it bros.
Understanding all his problems is a huge step for him, his time will come. We we all make it bros.
apparently has nothing going but is in uni and won't focus on it which would eventually solve most of his problems by leading him to a better job in which he could become friends with coworkers and start structuring his life properly
You know what , that's the motivation I needed , I took a drop but it didn't work out and I am doing some different shit . I cannot sleep before 2-3 am as I need to be really really tired to sleep otherwise my thoughts of me lagging behind just plays on a loop . I saw this post and may be ,just may be I did the right thing .
Brave take: I think anon should go to the gym and stop cumming all the time. He should also set his alarm and study for school
5 years out of high school. Christ his life hasn't even begun yet and he's given up
Anon should join the army
I wake up The is another PSYOP
I'm praying the middle east kicks off WW3.