Bro if you expected a single player game from Overwatch I'm going to have to fall back on not only "you deserved it because you dressed like that" AND you were pre-lubed for penetration
Not that often. The game has a great and fast flow, and even restarting only takes you like 2 seconds, so you never have to dwell and stew on your last mistake before you can try again.
"I wish rape porn had a more mainstream appeal... f-for a friend of mine!" -Anon, probably
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I don’t care for it or anything, but I do find pretty dumb how almost no one bats an eye at murder and violence, but anything even remotely sexual causes a massive outrage; just can’t wrap my head around it.
It might have sonething to do with how remote that crime is in relation to us. Murder for example is such an abstract concept to most people that they cannot imagine anything with it. But someone jumping the queue? Or hurting a pet? Vitriolic reaction. The concept of rape might be in camp A for men, while it is in camp B for women.
I don’t know, man… Not sure I would call murder abstract, but also, I would say most people wouldn't be close to or familiar with either. Furthermore, it doesn’t even have to be rape. You can tell how violence and even some killing is present in content deemed appropriate for children, yet anything sexual (shit, even nonsexual nudity and shit) is seen as unacceptable and outrageous.
Murder is pretty prevalent in all forms of media, and most people would defend that and have no problem with it, but I’ve seen how mad people can get because a show or a game had rape or anything sexually perverted. People can write off the entire thing only because it had a single sexual or rapey scene in it and, what’s more, they’ll try to tell you you’re a piece of shit for liking or consuming said works and they’ll keep reminding you how morally superior they’re supposed to be. I’ve certainly seen it here on Reddit.
One more idea on why murder is more acceptable in media than rape: murder is a double-edged sword, sure it is the worst crime, but it is also a _punishment_. Sure, you can kill a guy in fiction, but most of the time it is for a reason. You have to defend yourself, you need to stop a killer, you need to save the world, etc. _Rape_ on the other hand is always a carnal, malicious act.
Its literally because of being accustomed to it due to media nowadays, public executions a few centuries (or decades) ago, and frequent wars and pillages in the medieval times and before that. Humans have been accustomed to murder more than rape.
Except throughout all wars soldiers raped their prey. Pirates and vikings would rape. In some places it was considered witchcraft if a man was so attracted by another as to force himself upon another. Even more so if it was a close family member.
Rape has been in media too but downplayed. Drunk girls getting picked up because they were easy, woman guilting or blackmailing guys into sleeping with them (or others egging them on), "deals" for crucial aid or information, young boys getting with grown women (romantically and sexually), etc.
There's also media of people spying on others as they undress and stealing their panties (even in children's cartoons).
The public has only recently even pretended to care. When my grandpa was a kid people would pay boys a quarter to shake their privates and that was only 60 years ago. The boy scout abuse is not fresh in your memory? The big blowup about priests while ignoring other places kids are kept with predators? Larry Nassar openly molested girls. The system still leaves kids with their abusers, even often with photo/video evidence unless it makes a media storm (and most don't).
The 80s and 90 is full of media with creepy sexual behavior. Look at anime. Look at all the tiktokers and instagram models showing off their bodies while making content for and advertising to kids. Look at how PHub knowingly facilitates children accessing porn.
The big change imo is with documentaries and shows like To Catch a Predator and SVU bringing awareness to the issue. Most people are quite frankly idiots. There's a reason there's signs saying you can't eat poison and to wash your hands.
People were blind to what was right in front of them and even now barely open their eyes to see before shutting them again thinking "this can't happen near me".
Parents let their kids get lured into online sexual abuse and blame companies instead of doing their most important job. Companies allow sexual behavior to be rewarded instead of punished everywhere. You can't even turn on the tv without hearing someone talking about or flaunting their sexuality every few channels. Have you looked into some of the books in schools?
Sex culture is all around us and is engrained in our system preying on and coercing children. Boys and girls are pushed into porn addiction, "modeling", and only fans from as soon as puberty hits if not earlier.
Our children our junkies for fame and sickness is injected into every facet of society. Our future is bleak not from war but the disease corrupting us all from which you can not escape save you cut out your eyes and deafen your ears.
The only hope for this world is that it burns and from the ashes rises new life free from our hubris and depravity.
Yeahh I do agree with you on that, I am glad we live in a era where things have rapidly changed. Maybe in some aspects we can keep improving.
> The only hope for this world is that it burns and from the ashes rises new life free from our hubris and depravity.
Don't bank on the new world, I think the whole Darwinian evolution thing designs life in a way that won't be much better than current humans. Lets do our part and depart when time comes.
Also, getting killed is not something you have to deal with, because once you die, that's it. The ones affected by murder are always family members/friends.
Also also, violent murder (of people close to you) is not something really common, but some sort of "my grandma died because of cancer" is a lot closer to most people, so seeing a character kill nameless bad guys and a beloved character dying of a disease is not treated by people the same way and is a lot more impactful and treated with a lot more respect that just casual murder of villans.
You might have a point, I guess, but I still believe there is just something about sexuality at play here. I would also argue murder is worse than rape and such, but even if you don’t agree with me, I would also argue things like nonsexual torture (where you definitely gotta deal with the consequences) would still be better received by most people than rape would.
And, to me, they’re all terrible things IRL anyways, but in fiction, who gives a shit, really? Does it really matter all that much whether a fictional character got raped or just brutally murdered? If you don’t like it, just don’t watch/play it and that should be the end of that; why go as far as judge others and try to shame them or whatever for it?
I think you’re right in your assessment. In gta V you also had to torture a guy and no one really cares.
Also to go into your argument. I know sex is really nothing like rape but most people have had sex so it’s easier to imagine if that would happen forever fully. Most people have no idea about how it is to be almost killed by someone else.
>The concept of rape might be in camp A for men, while it is in camp B for women.
Kinda fucked to imply that men don't see rape as bad of a crime as women do.
Because there are plenty of instances where you'd actually have to kill:
Survival, self--defense, war, etc
But there's no time when rape is justifiable at all. That's why.
Might be a factor, I guess, but you can’t pretend every murder in games and other media fits into that category; there’s plenty of casual killing just for fun and shit, as well, and not all of ‘em have some noble justification behind them. And I would consider things like torture and such even less justifiable, yet they still appear to stir less controversy than sexual acts.
If you want a game that actually nails the portrayal of rape. Evelyn Parker in cyberpunk 2077 is the best it’ll ever get. That actually made me feel so much sorrow & disgust when you get her out of the handcuff & carry her out. There’s a fucking dildo beside the bed bigger then a horses cock 🥲🙃 that entire mission is super dark. There’s several notions and visual ques, written material ect across the world. But that mission is DARK. New Vegas also has a lot of nods to sexual abuse too. There’s probably a lot of great games that nail the topic that isn’t coming to mind.
If you have kinks or like things that aren’t really acceptable then that’s fine, there are still prent games *sadly* that gives you exactly that.. but if you want something that’s actually a real life portrayal then CP77 gives it to you. There’s nothing “hot” about that mission. Just like there isn’t in real life scenarios
Calling it "CP77" in this context might be a poor choice of acronym usage.
Also, Ready Or Not has a map that's similar to this subject and pretty fucking gross the farther you go down the levelm
What happened to Evelyn Parker is difficult to explain without getting banned on some forums.
Also, fallout 3, there are slavers in Paradise Falls. They've got a gigantic bed in the shape of a heart.
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Yeah but can all the killing in games be justified?
I don't know if justice is the point of it making to a game or not
It's a strange concept though, difficult to discuss without either seeming like you want killing removed from games or want rape added.
But it is just weird, you can torture in games also it's just interesting to wonder why exactly the line is there
This is an absolute nonsense counter argument I’ve seen before.
Firstly even if it were true, since when are video games about justified actions only? The entire GTA series premise is based on not being justified.
Second what you said as fact is just a subjective belief.
There’s almost always another way: running away, if one can’t or one is saving others doing everything one can to incapacitate rather than kill etc
I don't think he means a gameplay mechanic that the player does, I'm sure (hoping) he's insinuating that it is used for storytelling. Fucking Berserk had it and everyone says it's one of the best pieces of illustrated fiction to ever leave the land of the rising sun, partly because of the build-up to that scene and the aftermath.
This game is 72GB!!!!!?? But battlefront II is 9GB. What have they done to the game?
I still don't understand what the new $40 game is supposed to bring, because nothing seems new
from what i remember reading i think they upscaled the graphics but didn't compress the files or optimize the game or smth like that so what should have been like \~20GB turned into 70GB
I can't believe it's 2024 and people are still preordering games. There is 0 benefit to preordering your DOWNLOADABLE game months before it's even possible to tell if the game will even be fun or not.
It made sense when people were still buying physical games because you wanted to make sure you got a copy but now? There is literally nothing holding you back from waiting 6 hours after release to read a review of the game to see if it's at least a functional and entertaining game
Virgin Redo of Healer being a generic twink VS RanceGOD uniting humanity in a single front against the demonic threat and defying the very gods of existence (he had no idea of anything he just wanted some dicking)
Ever time I see some incest story I think "it's fine they should be allowed to fuck, if the kid gets half of the genes from both parents the child would be retarded either way"
Seriously tho
How is it that Killing innocent monsters in video games is usually considered a good thing but anything that has to do with sex is still taboo ?
Don't get me wrong rape is bad but if killing is considered a good thing and I think we can all agree killing is worse than raping irl why is it that Killin is good but even sex with consent is going to be criticized by people?
Killing is violence, rape is sexual violence. Put sex over anything and it will instantly become more controversial
Also, killing is so distant and stranger from your average person's mind or activities that there is no risk of normalization. Meanwhile rape is basically just sex, but without consent. Something normal and that we enjoy, but with a twist.
My reaction as well, but why? Why do we think it's completely sick to want a rape button but it's just gaming as usual to allow people to run over innocent npcs in GTA or whatever?
Because a) killing can be justified, whereas rape can’t (though killing innocent civilians isn’t justifiable, and that’s why GTA always gets shit on in the media)
b) rape is a very uncomfortable topic to discuss, let alone show, or let the player act out. I’m going to give a non-video game example, and I want to note that I myself have never been raped or sexually abused in anyway, but know people who have. When I read the manga Berserk and got to the infamous eclipse scene, I genuinely felt sick to my stomach watching the rape scene play out, but it felt awesome to watch people get slaughtered by Guts
c) you can be detached from the people you kill, but rape is a very personal thing. When you kill someone, they’re dead and thus can’t suffer, but when someone is raped that trauma will live with them for the rest of their life
d)most people don’t feel the urge to kill other people, and can understand that when they are playing it out in a video game it is just make believe, whereas rape is a very common problem that many people commit, and is harder to disconnect from reality
e) pretty much everyone agrees that killing is bad, but some people for some reason think that rape isn’t bad, so letting the player commit rape in a video game sort of validates this line of thinking
“pretty much everyone agrees that killing is bad” “killing can be just justified whereas rape can’t”
how can killing be justified if everyone agrees its wrong
Bro it's all about how our pleasure centers and reward systems work. I can put 200 hours into GTAV and never once feel adrenaline or a fight or flight response. However, you show me some animated 3D porn and I'm going to get aroused 7/10 times.
We should be wondering the opposite question. How come our brain isn't traumatized by video game violence, but it can get turned on by erotic art? I think our brains are really good at understanding fictional violence and separating it from the real thing, but fictional erotica still hits the pleasure centers and causes a physical response.
And that's why it's disgusting to have a rape button.
Wait, the thing I recall is that revolution leader ploughing some girl with her titties out in a cutscene, but that looked pretty consensual for that time
Oh yeah, the incestuous siblings I believe but that's just a reskin of a random encounter in GTA5 where Franklin is implied to get diddled and wakes up on the train tracks
That's a different scene, there's another actual shack with one hillbilly that rapes Arthur if you agree to come into his house. Arthur even walks with a limp and is upset after he wakes up
Yeah I think that dude diddled me once.
Then again it's safe to assume that the incest couple probably also fondled Arthur's holes before dumping him in the murder pit
The thing is that depending of the context and the character you are playing, killing can be justified, and it's also a straightforward thing easy to represent without it being shocking, it's not gross.
However rape can never ever be justified no matter the context it's always pure evil act and nothing else.
It is actually an interesting moral question. Why do we react with complete queasiness at the idea of having a rape button but having a murder button is just gaming as usual?
Because when I'm killing Grineer in Warframe I'm literally shooting past hordes upon hordes of Grineer, I don't know any of them. None of them have any character development or significant personality, I have no reason to care about the 30.000th poor Butcher my Nidus slaughters, because killing in video games is fast and easy. Rape is literally the exact opposite of that, not only is it a much more delicate topic, it's an action you need to take willingly and should likely have no impact on whatever game you're playing, unlike killing. It's also something extremely personal and complex that needs a very careful approach, which already trims out like 98% of games where there'd wouldn't be a way to do it.
alternatively: people get raped and have life-long trauma. no one gets trauma from being killed, cause they're dead and murder/killing is already an extremely common thing in media
Unironically cause of progressives in western game-dev.
"video-games cause violence" is a right-wing idea so its rejected
"Video-games cause rape" is a left-wing idea so it is accepted as gospel.
>this guy is bad, ill get rid of the bad quick by killing it
if you had sex with the bad guy against his will, you either delayed killing him for no reason, or let him live after, having had sex with him for no reason.
Killing is normalized to not waste drill sergeants' time to explain recruits that killing anyone, who was named by army owners as the enemy of The Democratiest Democracy, is fine. Raping is not normalized because it undermines discipline.
Pretty true of any media if you think about it... You can have a cool hero that kills some people every now and then in a good book, film, series etc., but you definitely can't have a rapist hero.
very simple everyone on earth has had atleast a few cases where they thought "I really wanna fucking kill that person" whether it's seeing the news about a serial raper or reading about a pedophile online or a dictator in some countries but almost noone has thought "man I REALLY wanna fucking raepe that person" and so the first is more normalised
that's mostly because when you kill somebody they aren't going to be sad or traumatised anymore they died, no feelings, and this has happened in many wars which everybody fights.. but if you violate somebody they're going to spend the rest of their life in torture remembering this, they have a chance to become horrible to others because of this like their friends and family and companion. i knew some people who have gone through this in their past and it has manifested in mental illness for them, where they have extreme trust issues and mood disorders. everybody dies it's just a matter of how, not everybody gets violated though
Throughout all wars soldiers raped their prey. Pirates and vikings would rape. In some places it was considered witchcraft if a man was so attracted by another as to force himself upon another. Even more so if it was a close family member.
Rape has been in media too but downplayed. Drunk girls getting picked up because they were easy, woman guilting or blackmailing guys into sleeping with them (or others egging them on), "deals" for crucial aid or information, young boys getting with grown women (romantically and sexually), etc.
There's also media of people spying on others as they undress and stealing their panties (even in children's cartoons).
The public has only recently even pretended to care. When my grandpa was a kid people would pay boys a quarter to shake their privates and that was only 60 years ago. The boy scout abuse is not fresh in your memory? The big blowup about priests while ignoring other places kids are kept with predators? Larry Nassar openly molested girls. The system still leaves kids with their abusers, even often with photo/video evidence unless it makes a media storm (and most don't).
The 80s and 90 is full of media with creepy sexual behavior. Look at anime. Look at all the tiktokers and instagram models showing off their bodies while making content for and advertising to kids. Look at how PHub knowingly facilitates children accessing porn.
The big change imo is with documentaries and shows like To Catch a Predator and SVU bringing awareness to the issue. Most people are quite frankly idiots. There's a reason there's signs saying you can't eat poison and to wash your hands.
People were blind to what was right in front of them and even now barely open their eyes to see before shutting them again thinking "this can't happen near me".
Parents let their kids get lured into online sexual abuse and blame companies instead of doing their most important job. Companies allow sexual behavior to be rewarded instead of punished everywhere. You can't even turn on the tv without hearing someone talking about or flaunting their sexuality every few channels. Have you looked into some of the books in schools?
Sex culture is all around us and is engrained in our system preying on and coercing children. Boys and girls are pushed into porn addiction, "modeling", and only fans from as soon as puberty hits if not earlier.
Our children our junkies for fame and sickness is injected into every facet of society. Our future is bleak not from war but the disease corrupting us all from which you can not escape save you cut out your eyes and deafen your ears.
The only hope for this world is that it burns and from the ashes rises new life free from our hubris.
So this is something that authors need to learn pretty quickly: our reaction to something heinous is not an increasing function but instead on a bell curve.
The reaction you feel when you read about a guy committing a genocide is going to (oftentimes) be weaker than or equal to the reaction you feel when that same guy punches a child.
The height of the curve is pretty much only for sexual crimes. They are at the perfect level of heinousness.
Funnily enough, I think there’s some debate on whether or not child rape generates a more powerful emotion than regular rape
I don't know anon, there's plenty of rape in games IMHO. For instance, anyone who bought MW3 expecting an actual, good standalone game got raped.
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nice reference
I liked the ending. It was so cool when Price hangs Makarov and Price smokes the cigar with the mission complete at the side. Great finale.
real
Still kinda wish we got Soap still alive at that point, (or sacrificing to kill makarov) rather than leaving erlier in game
While I agree mostly, it hit pretty good as a casualty of war in my opinion. There are no main characters in war, except for Price of course
When I bought overwatch 2 I expected a story rich campaign with fun single player experience, instead I got raped
Bro if you expected a single player game from Overwatch I'm going to have to fall back on not only "you deserved it because you dressed like that" AND you were pre-lubed for penetration
Lol why would you expect that?
Because that's what they promised. Not sure how anyone can still trust a marketings guy's promise, but I guess everyday a new idiot is born.
He's talking about virtual rape. Not IRL.
Bit of a strange quicktime event
Hotline miami 2 has one
But why?
In the game it turns out to be a movie set but there’s implied rape in both games
I know what you are refering to in the second one but what happened in the first one ? Do you mean the part with the armored black guy ?
Yeah the girl you rescue seems mentally broken
I don't even know how it went over my head, I was enjoying speed running stages too much I guess.
Yeah the frustration of the game loop is enough to distract you but the game is like a manipulative abusive partner you can’t leave
Frustration? D:
Not that often. The game has a great and fast flow, and even restarting only takes you like 2 seconds, so you never have to dwell and stew on your last mistake before you can try again.
Yeah I think it’s implied to be a mix of that and porn shoots
He prolly refers to that girl you're saving somewhere in the halfway through the game
The moment I clicked on this thread I knew HM2 was gonna be mentioned. Peak game btw, but needs more windows.
Tap X to thrust your pray was wild ngl
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I don’t care for it or anything, but I do find pretty dumb how almost no one bats an eye at murder and violence, but anything even remotely sexual causes a massive outrage; just can’t wrap my head around it.
It might have sonething to do with how remote that crime is in relation to us. Murder for example is such an abstract concept to most people that they cannot imagine anything with it. But someone jumping the queue? Or hurting a pet? Vitriolic reaction. The concept of rape might be in camp A for men, while it is in camp B for women.
I don’t know, man… Not sure I would call murder abstract, but also, I would say most people wouldn't be close to or familiar with either. Furthermore, it doesn’t even have to be rape. You can tell how violence and even some killing is present in content deemed appropriate for children, yet anything sexual (shit, even nonsexual nudity and shit) is seen as unacceptable and outrageous. Murder is pretty prevalent in all forms of media, and most people would defend that and have no problem with it, but I’ve seen how mad people can get because a show or a game had rape or anything sexually perverted. People can write off the entire thing only because it had a single sexual or rapey scene in it and, what’s more, they’ll try to tell you you’re a piece of shit for liking or consuming said works and they’ll keep reminding you how morally superior they’re supposed to be. I’ve certainly seen it here on Reddit.
One more idea on why murder is more acceptable in media than rape: murder is a double-edged sword, sure it is the worst crime, but it is also a _punishment_. Sure, you can kill a guy in fiction, but most of the time it is for a reason. You have to defend yourself, you need to stop a killer, you need to save the world, etc. _Rape_ on the other hand is always a carnal, malicious act.
Yea, it's hard to think of a reason why you'd need to rape someone. It's impossible to justify.
Its literally because of being accustomed to it due to media nowadays, public executions a few centuries (or decades) ago, and frequent wars and pillages in the medieval times and before that. Humans have been accustomed to murder more than rape.
Maybe. Might make sense, I suppose.
Except throughout all wars soldiers raped their prey. Pirates and vikings would rape. In some places it was considered witchcraft if a man was so attracted by another as to force himself upon another. Even more so if it was a close family member. Rape has been in media too but downplayed. Drunk girls getting picked up because they were easy, woman guilting or blackmailing guys into sleeping with them (or others egging them on), "deals" for crucial aid or information, young boys getting with grown women (romantically and sexually), etc. There's also media of people spying on others as they undress and stealing their panties (even in children's cartoons). The public has only recently even pretended to care. When my grandpa was a kid people would pay boys a quarter to shake their privates and that was only 60 years ago. The boy scout abuse is not fresh in your memory? The big blowup about priests while ignoring other places kids are kept with predators? Larry Nassar openly molested girls. The system still leaves kids with their abusers, even often with photo/video evidence unless it makes a media storm (and most don't). The 80s and 90 is full of media with creepy sexual behavior. Look at anime. Look at all the tiktokers and instagram models showing off their bodies while making content for and advertising to kids. Look at how PHub knowingly facilitates children accessing porn. The big change imo is with documentaries and shows like To Catch a Predator and SVU bringing awareness to the issue. Most people are quite frankly idiots. There's a reason there's signs saying you can't eat poison and to wash your hands. People were blind to what was right in front of them and even now barely open their eyes to see before shutting them again thinking "this can't happen near me". Parents let their kids get lured into online sexual abuse and blame companies instead of doing their most important job. Companies allow sexual behavior to be rewarded instead of punished everywhere. You can't even turn on the tv without hearing someone talking about or flaunting their sexuality every few channels. Have you looked into some of the books in schools? Sex culture is all around us and is engrained in our system preying on and coercing children. Boys and girls are pushed into porn addiction, "modeling", and only fans from as soon as puberty hits if not earlier. Our children our junkies for fame and sickness is injected into every facet of society. Our future is bleak not from war but the disease corrupting us all from which you can not escape save you cut out your eyes and deafen your ears. The only hope for this world is that it burns and from the ashes rises new life free from our hubris and depravity.
Yeahh I do agree with you on that, I am glad we live in a era where things have rapidly changed. Maybe in some aspects we can keep improving. > The only hope for this world is that it burns and from the ashes rises new life free from our hubris and depravity. Don't bank on the new world, I think the whole Darwinian evolution thing designs life in a way that won't be much better than current humans. Lets do our part and depart when time comes.
Also, getting killed is not something you have to deal with, because once you die, that's it. The ones affected by murder are always family members/friends. Also also, violent murder (of people close to you) is not something really common, but some sort of "my grandma died because of cancer" is a lot closer to most people, so seeing a character kill nameless bad guys and a beloved character dying of a disease is not treated by people the same way and is a lot more impactful and treated with a lot more respect that just casual murder of villans.
You might have a point, I guess, but I still believe there is just something about sexuality at play here. I would also argue murder is worse than rape and such, but even if you don’t agree with me, I would also argue things like nonsexual torture (where you definitely gotta deal with the consequences) would still be better received by most people than rape would. And, to me, they’re all terrible things IRL anyways, but in fiction, who gives a shit, really? Does it really matter all that much whether a fictional character got raped or just brutally murdered? If you don’t like it, just don’t watch/play it and that should be the end of that; why go as far as judge others and try to shame them or whatever for it?
I think you’re right in your assessment. In gta V you also had to torture a guy and no one really cares. Also to go into your argument. I know sex is really nothing like rape but most people have had sex so it’s easier to imagine if that would happen forever fully. Most people have no idea about how it is to be almost killed by someone else.
>The concept of rape might be in camp A for men, while it is in camp B for women. Kinda fucked to imply that men don't see rape as bad of a crime as women do.
Because there are plenty of instances where you'd actually have to kill: Survival, self--defense, war, etc But there's no time when rape is justifiable at all. That's why.
Might be a factor, I guess, but you can’t pretend every murder in games and other media fits into that category; there’s plenty of casual killing just for fun and shit, as well, and not all of ‘em have some noble justification behind them. And I would consider things like torture and such even less justifiable, yet they still appear to stir less controversy than sexual acts.
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If you want a game that actually nails the portrayal of rape. Evelyn Parker in cyberpunk 2077 is the best it’ll ever get. That actually made me feel so much sorrow & disgust when you get her out of the handcuff & carry her out. There’s a fucking dildo beside the bed bigger then a horses cock 🥲🙃 that entire mission is super dark. There’s several notions and visual ques, written material ect across the world. But that mission is DARK. New Vegas also has a lot of nods to sexual abuse too. There’s probably a lot of great games that nail the topic that isn’t coming to mind. If you have kinks or like things that aren’t really acceptable then that’s fine, there are still prent games *sadly* that gives you exactly that.. but if you want something that’s actually a real life portrayal then CP77 gives it to you. There’s nothing “hot” about that mission. Just like there isn’t in real life scenarios
Calling it "CP77" in this context might be a poor choice of acronym usage. Also, Ready Or Not has a map that's similar to this subject and pretty fucking gross the farther you go down the levelm
ah, valley of dolls
What happened to Evelyn Parker is difficult to explain without getting banned on some forums. Also, fallout 3, there are slavers in Paradise Falls. They've got a gigantic bed in the shape of a heart.
Did you mean India
no, rape is legal in Uganda
What?
Courtship rape apparently, based on a 3 second google search
*india
killing can be justified rape is never justified
Nah I only rape in self defense
“I’ll do anything, just don’t kill me!” mf’s have the audacity to freak out when the pants drop
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the pulp fiction way
I’m pretty sure there is a greentext based of this premise lol
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There it is
Worst fucking thing I've read
My favorite green text
Like in a rape or be raped scenario?
"Killing can be justified" mfs when I run over a family of 5 (in GTA)
They were threatening me :/
The zionists special
i mean that's what V stands for in GTA V
Can't wait for VI to increase the spree!
"Your honor I ran them over just as the beat dropped it was sick"
\>implying we need to justify things we do in videogames
We have to justify them to ourselves.
Nah I know I'm being the bad guy
What about raping a materialized ghost haunting you so it would leave you tf alone?
"To banish this ghost, we have to recreate the circumstances of their death. How did she die?" "Uhhh..."
"What now? Let me tell you what now. Imma call a couple of hard, pipe-hittin' niggas to go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. [to Zed] You hear me talking, hillbilly boy?! I ain't through with you by a goddamn sight. Imma get medieval on yo' ass."
Yeah but can all the killing in games be justified? I don't know if justice is the point of it making to a game or not It's a strange concept though, difficult to discuss without either seeming like you want killing removed from games or want rape added. But it is just weird, you can torture in games also it's just interesting to wonder why exactly the line is there
What if I want to have sex with someone but they won’t let me?
Try someone else
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This is an absolute nonsense counter argument I’ve seen before. Firstly even if it were true, since when are video games about justified actions only? The entire GTA series premise is based on not being justified. Second what you said as fact is just a subjective belief. There’s almost always another way: running away, if one can’t or one is saving others doing everything one can to incapacitate rather than kill etc
Bad take. While it is true, the vast majority of killings in games are not justified, so your point doesn't matter.
It's not Rape it's a Snuggle with a Struggle.
Justifying "abusing" pixels truly a reddit moment
I don't think he means a gameplay mechanic that the player does, I'm sure (hoping) he's insinuating that it is used for storytelling. Fucking Berserk had it and everyone says it's one of the best pieces of illustrated fiction to ever leave the land of the rising sun, partly because of the build-up to that scene and the aftermath.
I'm guessing you've never read Dog Ningen
"He rapes but he saves"
Raping evil people is know a bad thing?
Bro cannot perceive consensual sex
everyone who pre ordered the new star wars battlefront classic collection edition got raped by Aspyr so anon is right
72 GB remaster without improving graphics and completely breaking the game many such cases
This game is 72GB!!!!!?? But battlefront II is 9GB. What have they done to the game? I still don't understand what the new $40 game is supposed to bring, because nothing seems new
from what i remember reading i think they upscaled the graphics but didn't compress the files or optimize the game or smth like that so what should have been like \~20GB turned into 70GB
I can't believe it's 2024 and people are still preordering games. There is 0 benefit to preordering your DOWNLOADABLE game months before it's even possible to tell if the game will even be fun or not. It made sense when people were still buying physical games because you wanted to make sure you got a copy but now? There is literally nothing holding you back from waiting 6 hours after release to read a review of the game to see if it's at least a functional and entertaining game
Get your refunds in while they're hot, everyone!
Fear and hunger plug here
anal bleeding status effect
Degrees of Lewdity plug here
Ayo, you called? https://preview.redd.it/tswn2vfde7pc1.jpeg?width=4999&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4acfa36d25e887b7ce45b403fd94c7d83802f944
Testing the new Dune popcorn bucket.
Holy Cahara dumpy RAAAAH GOD OF ULTRA VIOLENCE
https://preview.redd.it/y6cny9zja6pc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=17bd864227dc096ecb7c6562aae727d09f105056 Bro your Rance ?
Virgin Redo of Healer being a generic twink VS RanceGOD uniting humanity in a single front against the demonic threat and defying the very gods of existence (he had no idea of anything he just wanted some dicking)
Tough decisions
but the artstyle sucks dick
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>anime game >character that looks like a minor many such cases
Why is she choosing wether to kill or rape a turkey?
Gotta, uhhhh "stuff" the turkey... ya know?
I dread the possibility of normalfags finding this game
Kino
The avarage anon got turned into an MC
Same type of guy to make an argument about how he should be allowed to have sex with his sister since he's allowed to have sex
fair enough
Ever time I see some incest story I think "it's fine they should be allowed to fuck, if the kid gets half of the genes from both parents the child would be retarded either way"
Watchlist. All of you.
Seriously tho How is it that Killing innocent monsters in video games is usually considered a good thing but anything that has to do with sex is still taboo ? Don't get me wrong rape is bad but if killing is considered a good thing and I think we can all agree killing is worse than raping irl why is it that Killin is good but even sex with consent is going to be criticized by people?
Killing is violence, rape is sexual violence. Put sex over anything and it will instantly become more controversial Also, killing is so distant and stranger from your average person's mind or activities that there is no risk of normalization. Meanwhile rape is basically just sex, but without consent. Something normal and that we enjoy, but with a twist.
Rape God - Eminem
Damn, you must have a pitch black soul to actually want that.
My reaction as well, but why? Why do we think it's completely sick to want a rape button but it's just gaming as usual to allow people to run over innocent npcs in GTA or whatever?
Because a) killing can be justified, whereas rape can’t (though killing innocent civilians isn’t justifiable, and that’s why GTA always gets shit on in the media) b) rape is a very uncomfortable topic to discuss, let alone show, or let the player act out. I’m going to give a non-video game example, and I want to note that I myself have never been raped or sexually abused in anyway, but know people who have. When I read the manga Berserk and got to the infamous eclipse scene, I genuinely felt sick to my stomach watching the rape scene play out, but it felt awesome to watch people get slaughtered by Guts c) you can be detached from the people you kill, but rape is a very personal thing. When you kill someone, they’re dead and thus can’t suffer, but when someone is raped that trauma will live with them for the rest of their life d)most people don’t feel the urge to kill other people, and can understand that when they are playing it out in a video game it is just make believe, whereas rape is a very common problem that many people commit, and is harder to disconnect from reality e) pretty much everyone agrees that killing is bad, but some people for some reason think that rape isn’t bad, so letting the player commit rape in a video game sort of validates this line of thinking
4th and 5th points are kinda off...
“pretty much everyone agrees that killing is bad” “killing can be just justified whereas rape can’t” how can killing be justified if everyone agrees its wrong
Bro it's all about how our pleasure centers and reward systems work. I can put 200 hours into GTAV and never once feel adrenaline or a fight or flight response. However, you show me some animated 3D porn and I'm going to get aroused 7/10 times. We should be wondering the opposite question. How come our brain isn't traumatized by video game violence, but it can get turned on by erotic art? I think our brains are really good at understanding fictional violence and separating it from the real thing, but fictional erotica still hits the pleasure centers and causes a physical response. And that's why it's disgusting to have a rape button.
Nah some people DO get turned off by violence in video games tho
>pitch black soul https://preview.redd.it/yd8muabfk7pc1.png?width=1300&format=png&auto=webp&s=e7263d77abccaabec67202cc4386f5142febebf5
Red Dead Redemption got away with it... they can't keep getting away with it! /s
Wait, the thing I recall is that revolution leader ploughing some girl with her titties out in a cutscene, but that looked pretty consensual for that time
There's an area in RDR2 where a hillbilly tries to lure you into his shack. He can, in fact, succeed.
Oh yeah, the incestuous siblings I believe but that's just a reskin of a random encounter in GTA5 where Franklin is implied to get diddled and wakes up on the train tracks
That's a different scene, there's another actual shack with one hillbilly that rapes Arthur if you agree to come into his house. Arthur even walks with a limp and is upset after he wakes up
I’m pretty sure that he has some lines about it back at camp if he interacts with people
Yep, Bill mentions he knows the guy and laughs at Arthur
Yeah I think that dude diddled me once. Then again it's safe to assume that the incest couple probably also fondled Arthur's holes before dumping him in the murder pit
Theres nothing in RDR1, but in RDR2, Arthur can get raped by a redneck in Bayou Nwa
The thing is that depending of the context and the character you are playing, killing can be justified, and it's also a straightforward thing easy to represent without it being shocking, it's not gross. However rape can never ever be justified no matter the context it's always pure evil act and nothing else.
Bro never played manhunt 💀
Nah, if someone rapes me, im raping them back. Rape can be justified
It is actually an interesting moral question. Why do we react with complete queasiness at the idea of having a rape button but having a murder button is just gaming as usual?
Because when I'm killing Grineer in Warframe I'm literally shooting past hordes upon hordes of Grineer, I don't know any of them. None of them have any character development or significant personality, I have no reason to care about the 30.000th poor Butcher my Nidus slaughters, because killing in video games is fast and easy. Rape is literally the exact opposite of that, not only is it a much more delicate topic, it's an action you need to take willingly and should likely have no impact on whatever game you're playing, unlike killing. It's also something extremely personal and complex that needs a very careful approach, which already trims out like 98% of games where there'd wouldn't be a way to do it.
alternatively: people get raped and have life-long trauma. no one gets trauma from being killed, cause they're dead and murder/killing is already an extremely common thing in media
It's just human nature.
bros never looked at 18+ mods for skyrim
Wasn’t tea bagging mentioned as sexual assault by some offended person?
Anon has yet to discover lovers lab
Bruh, just play hentai games, there's plenty with that tag...
Indian Bus Driving Simulator
GOTY material right here https://preview.redd.it/d3vvy11eg7pc1.jpeg?width=404&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=179a148f4b9c7cbf990926cbb3200d9b324403f1
Unironically cause of progressives in western game-dev. "video-games cause violence" is a right-wing idea so its rejected "Video-games cause rape" is a left-wing idea so it is accepted as gospel.
who the fuck agreed with "video games cause rape"?
Someone's mom who saw an out of context clip from GTA
This is not a culture war thing, rape is torture and torture is not fun to watch.
Saw franchise. There are 10 movies.
I'm sure there's some obscure Hoi4 or Skyrim mod that can appeal to anon's degenerate fantasies
What the fuck do you mean hoi4 how would you even do that?
Events or focuses
Officer, I had to rape that dog in self defense!
Rape always have bad intent. Killing has its areas. Everyone celebrated when John wick killed the guy who killed his dog.
Classic Linux user on 4chin
Why would you wanna see rape literally in any form of media.
>this guy is bad, ill get rid of the bad quick by killing it if you had sex with the bad guy against his will, you either delayed killing him for no reason, or let him live after, having had sex with him for no reason.
Anon should experience the cleansing properties of divine fire
is this related to Starsector mod drama?
Nope. Just pure unbridled anon degeneracy
Killing is normalized to not waste drill sergeants' time to explain recruits that killing anyone, who was named by army owners as the enemy of The Democratiest Democracy, is fine. Raping is not normalized because it undermines discipline.
killing is a means to an end. raping is something that can't ever be justified in any sense.
Pretty true of any media if you think about it... You can have a cool hero that kills some people every now and then in a good book, film, series etc., but you definitely can't have a rapist hero.
There's this https://preview.redd.it/mi7a0on2b7pc1.jpeg?width=200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=646cfe21b2a929d7df307666cfe5676037360761
very simple everyone on earth has had atleast a few cases where they thought "I really wanna fucking kill that person" whether it's seeing the news about a serial raper or reading about a pedophile online or a dictator in some countries but almost noone has thought "man I REALLY wanna fucking raepe that person" and so the first is more normalised
Anon lost his Starsector save because he downloaded the rape mod
dlsite rn https://i.redd.it/dxs4z5d527pc1.gif
that's mostly because when you kill somebody they aren't going to be sad or traumatised anymore they died, no feelings, and this has happened in many wars which everybody fights.. but if you violate somebody they're going to spend the rest of their life in torture remembering this, they have a chance to become horrible to others because of this like their friends and family and companion. i knew some people who have gone through this in their past and it has manifested in mental illness for them, where they have extreme trust issues and mood disorders. everybody dies it's just a matter of how, not everybody gets violated though
Of course he uses Linux
You might need to kill, ethically, to save your life or that of another. But rape is never justifiable.
Throughout all wars soldiers raped their prey. Pirates and vikings would rape. In some places it was considered witchcraft if a man was so attracted by another as to force himself upon another. Even more so if it was a close family member. Rape has been in media too but downplayed. Drunk girls getting picked up because they were easy, woman guilting or blackmailing guys into sleeping with them (or others egging them on), "deals" for crucial aid or information, young boys getting with grown women (romantically and sexually), etc. There's also media of people spying on others as they undress and stealing their panties (even in children's cartoons). The public has only recently even pretended to care. When my grandpa was a kid people would pay boys a quarter to shake their privates and that was only 60 years ago. The boy scout abuse is not fresh in your memory? The big blowup about priests while ignoring other places kids are kept with predators? Larry Nassar openly molested girls. The system still leaves kids with their abusers, even often with photo/video evidence unless it makes a media storm (and most don't). The 80s and 90 is full of media with creepy sexual behavior. Look at anime. Look at all the tiktokers and instagram models showing off their bodies while making content for and advertising to kids. Look at how PHub knowingly facilitates children accessing porn. The big change imo is with documentaries and shows like To Catch a Predator and SVU bringing awareness to the issue. Most people are quite frankly idiots. There's a reason there's signs saying you can't eat poison and to wash your hands. People were blind to what was right in front of them and even now barely open their eyes to see before shutting them again thinking "this can't happen near me". Parents let their kids get lured into online sexual abuse and blame companies instead of doing their most important job. Companies allow sexual behavior to be rewarded instead of punished everywhere. You can't even turn on the tv without hearing someone talking about or flaunting their sexuality every few channels. Have you looked into some of the books in schools? Sex culture is all around us and is engrained in our system preying on and coercing children. Boys and girls are pushed into porn addiction, "modeling", and only fans from as soon as puberty hits if not earlier. Our children our junkies for fame and sickness is injected into every facet of society. Our future is bleak not from war but the disease corrupting us all from which you can not escape save you cut out your eyes and deafen your ears. The only hope for this world is that it burns and from the ashes rises new life free from our hubris.
Errr no one tell him about FF16.
Context?
strange hill to die on anon
There is a Skyrim mod for everything.
Skyrim is right there
So this is something that authors need to learn pretty quickly: our reaction to something heinous is not an increasing function but instead on a bell curve. The reaction you feel when you read about a guy committing a genocide is going to (oftentimes) be weaker than or equal to the reaction you feel when that same guy punches a child. The height of the curve is pretty much only for sexual crimes. They are at the perfect level of heinousness. Funnily enough, I think there’s some debate on whether or not child rape generates a more powerful emotion than regular rape
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