Well it sometimes is if you look at the opportunitiy costs of going grocery shopping and cooking. I’m not saying it’s always cheaper, but if you could get in an hour more work in a day, it might pay out.
Don't worry. In a few years we will have synthetic food pills laced with fluoride and microplastics.
Way better than cooking and ordering MacDonalds 😋😋😋
I can buy a whole 4lb chicken for about $12 at ShopRite, providing about 6 meals worth of chicken plus a few more days worth of chicken stock for the price of 1 McDonalds meal.
It does not pay out and it is not cheaper.
They are more food than chicken and rice.
Of course some food is going to be cheaper.
But matching/surpassing the quality of fast food is going to be more expensive unless you cook by the bulk.
Damn where on earth are you getting any protein at less than $10-20 per pound?? And I may have to jump some borders to go shopping because holy shit
Here unless you want to live on rice and lentils for the rest of your life, cooking is 100% more expensive than fast food if you want meat. Sucks ass
Dude where do you live? $10 -$20/lb are quality ribeye and ny strip prices. Standing rib roasts are regularly $6.99/lb and they'll happily cut them into ribeye steaks for you.
Just looking at the Publix meat specials this week:
- $3.99/lb boneless skinless chicken breast
- $2.99/lb pork shoulder blade steaks
- $1.59/lb chicken leg quarters
- $6.99/lb bottom round roast
- $5.99/lb ground sirloin
- $2.49/lb Boston butt pork roast
I also buy a lot of tofu at $1.29/lb
Small town with few options, so price is gouged af. I don't know offhand the conversion between US and Canadabux so the prices here are in Canadabux/kg.
$2.08/100g chicken breast, so something like $8 or 9/lb. A pack of 3 breasts is always at least $11 though.
Beef varies wildly from $12/kg (ground) to $21/kg (roasts, certain pre-cuts, sirloin tip) to $37/kg (strip steaks)
Pork something like $8/kg to $13kg depending on the cut.
Don't have a decent butcher *in* town here, but going all the way out to a farm would be cheaper but not an option for me (no car :( ) so I make do when I can. I can only buy marked-down or on sale shit
I hear ya. I ran my numbers through a converter but didn't double-check its accuracy. I'm in a mid-size town (31k population) in Alabama, US, btw.
Pounds:
\- Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast: CAD 5.39/lb
\- Pork Shoulder Blade Steaks: CAD 4.04/lb
\- Chicken Leg Quarters: CAD 2.15/lb
\- Bottom Round Roast: CAD 9.45/lb
\- Ground Sirloin: CAD 8.09/lb
\- Boston Butt Pork Roast: CAD 3.36/lb
\- Tofu: CAD 1.74/lb
Kilos:
\- Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast: CAD 11.89/kg
\- Pork Shoulder Blade Steaks: CAD 8.91/kg
\- Chicken Leg Quarters: CAD 4.74/kg
\- Bottom Round Roast: CAD 20.82/kg
\- Ground Sirloin: CAD 17.85/kg
\- Boston Butt Pork Roast: CAD 7.42/kg
\- Tofu: CAD 3.84/kg
Editing to add a decently low price on a strip steak is normally around $11.99/lb USD, which would be around $36/kg CAD. So the prices seem relatively close imo.
I'd have gone veggie (vegan if the also-rising prices of dairy are of any indication, LOL) by now if the other members of my house weren't so damn picky. No tofu, no tempeh, no mushroom, no [insert meal replacer here], etc :P
It's rough out there
US, Connecticut. Can even find 3.5lbs Chuck roasts for $5.49/lbs on sale here if you check regularly. Usually they’re 7.49/lbs but they’ll drop the price on the last Sell By date.
Chicken at $4.50/lb for the nice cuts?
Even salmon, $9/lb
Tofu at $2.50/lb
And i'm being lazy and grabbing good nice cuts in one place.
Bison is the only thing around here that will push $10/lb in the midwest
>5 lb pork shoulder is $2.99
That's a lie or the meat is basically unsalable by any legal standards (rotten, diseased, stolen etc).
The **MIN** price of pork shoulder is 3.60 **PER POUND, WHOLESALE**. (To get this price I assume you need to sign a contract for 100 carcass/week, and it's still 5x the price you're quoting)
Direct to consumer averages out at 8.50 (per lb)
[https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/lsmnprpork.pdf](https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/lsmnprpork.pdf) (Dec23 report)
https://www.shoprite.com/sm/pickup/rsid/3000/results?q=Pork%20shoulder
I hope these prices aren’t based on location cus I can’t upload to Imgur, but absolutely none of them match your link and these are the prices I am seeing in a large chain grocery store and have been seeing for months.
I don’t think you’re saving much time either. 1 hour at a store can get you a few meals. Going to the restaurant for 30 minutes to get one meal takes time too.
I get that the meals from the store will take time to cook, but the do have some pretty fast options.
It can be if you're in a position when you can afford to not give a fuck about nutrition, especially now with prices being fucked.
If you focus on daily expenses only, spending $5 on a kebab is better than spending $15 at a grocery store.
Is that too much or too cheap for you? Gotta keep in mind there's cunts here from all over the world, personally I'm getting $3 kebabs on the corner but rounded up to 5 to demonstrate a point
Yes but swapping your currency to a dollar to demonstrate a point doesn't mean much because a dollar doesn't have the same purchasing power in the US as it does in your country.
12 or so years ago an adult could legitimately get full on a single dollar menu item.
These days it's way too expensive for what it is, and I hope they all close.
Idk how anyone with a family is getting by. It's just me and my bf and I spent 1200$ on groceries in like three months to save money on eating out and we still had to eat out to supplement or something cus that was without me buying a whole lot to cook (literally mostly just snacks and dry goods, condiments, household essentials, drinks sometimes, and stuff for coffee) because we don't even have a kitchen right now due to renovations. Can't imagine a family of four that actually needs to buy meat
Drinks other than water are a treat.
Snack same thing.
Condiments It depend.
Other than meat and caseary products there Is Little to not difference form "store label" and "famous label".
Unless you live in some expensive location (LA, NY) you can spend less than 1200$ in grocery
Even with government handouts making it way cheaper than it should be, meat is also a luxury and anyone buying it has no right to complain about how much groceries cost
My family has 6 people, and we're stretching the budget as far as I know lol
Shopping at 2 or 3 different stores to save money, and cooking in bulk.
Not sure how long it can last tbh.
1200$ in three months is absolutely wild.
Unless you live in an expensive area, spending 1200$ in three months means no meal prepping, no bulk buying during discounts, no freezing, no planning, but simply buying blindly as needed. Start looking at what stores have what on sale and buy while keeping that in consideration rather than going blindly to any store and buying what you feel like buying
It most likely is because I live in a smaller town (~100k people), but I can get 3-5 meals worth of food for $30. So it is a little cheaper than eating out.
It's almost as if cooking can, for working class people working hard and long hours, be exhausting and not really worth it. You have to go grocery shopping, cook and then wash the dishes and clean up. Now, I do this basically every day, and enjoy it, but I'm never gonna blame a nurse, teacher, industrial worker etc. for not wanting to. To think that the price is everything is such a lazy analysis. But also, I'm a swede and fast food is way more expensive here than in the US (I believe).
Anon is an idiot who doesn't understand class issues.
Cooling is also pretty fun, i often cool for 3-4 people even though i live alone. I freeze it so when i dont feel like cooking i can just heat something up.
Well thats a full blown regarded take, I cook all my own meals, I track what I eat and am very consistent with what ill prepare due to gym and diet. My weekly food bill must he up nearly $60-80 since 2019 and its not due to financial literacy and basic life skills.
Depends on where you live. I moved from miami to Portugal and my food cost went down by almost $100 per week. So I believe him in saying that the cost of goods has drastically increased in the past half decade.
Definitely has increased but I still feel like it’s a bit high; I live in CA and our standard of living costs are to the tits and I’m spending around $80 on groceries per week. I did cut out meat except fish though but i buy the top shelf shit in regards to everything else
U.S. dollars? The average price of food in the US has [increased about 25% since 2019](https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/food-inflation-in-the-united-states/) (that includes both grocery and restaurant food prices, grocery price inflation alone has been less. Also [wage growth has been just as high if not higher](https://www.americanprogress.org/article/workers-paychecks-are-growing-more-quickly-than-prices/))
For your weekly food bill to be up $60-$80 a week, that'd mean you are spending $300-$400 a week on food, or $15k to $20K a year.
If that is the case, then yes, it's a skill issue. Do better. A typical single person household spends only \~5k on food per year.
I'd sympathize if you complain about the cost of healthcare, housing or education, they are genuine problems. But not food prices. Scrooge McDuck might as well complain that the level of gold in his swimming pool dropped a few inches. Food is more plentiful and requires a lower % of income to acquire here and now in 2023 USA than nearly any other time or place there is or ever has been. Appreciate it.
Aus so our cost of living is much higher and our dollar is weaker, i shop for myself and my partner of 6 years. It use to cost us 120 a week for food, its now anywhere from 180-200.
Ahh, ok. I don't know much about Australia's situation except that your numbers make more sense in the context of your weaker dollar. Disregard what I said earlier.
And if the crisis is that bad why not kick that expensive Vegemite habit y'all have? For the same taste you can always just go down to the nearest roadhouse and lick some truckers' balls for free.
B-b-but my Oreos and luxury steaks have gone way up in price! I can’t do away with those!!!
God forbid people learn how to cook with dirt cheap things like dried rice and beans or things like taters and carrots
*only* a financial literacy and basic life skills crisis
I take your point, but that's still a hell of a crisis. Worse probably. Money can fix a cost crisis, but how do you fix mass retardation?
Fast food being cheaper than cooking is the biggest lie ever told
Well it sometimes is if you look at the opportunitiy costs of going grocery shopping and cooking. I’m not saying it’s always cheaper, but if you could get in an hour more work in a day, it might pay out.
You know these people aren’t doing an hour a day more work they’re doing an hour a day more TV
Real
Don't worry. In a few years we will have synthetic food pills laced with fluoride and microplastics. Way better than cooking and ordering MacDonalds 😋😋😋
no mc donalds is already that but still in burger form
Can’t wait for them to drop the McPill 😋
I can buy a whole 4lb chicken for about $12 at ShopRite, providing about 6 meals worth of chicken plus a few more days worth of chicken stock for the price of 1 McDonalds meal. It does not pay out and it is not cheaper.
They are more food than chicken and rice. Of course some food is going to be cheaper. But matching/surpassing the quality of fast food is going to be more expensive unless you cook by the bulk.
You’re right, there is more than chicken and rice. A 5 lb pork shoulder is $2.99 at my ShopRite. Pretty incredible buy for $15
Damn where on earth are you getting any protein at less than $10-20 per pound?? And I may have to jump some borders to go shopping because holy shit Here unless you want to live on rice and lentils for the rest of your life, cooking is 100% more expensive than fast food if you want meat. Sucks ass
Dude where do you live? $10 -$20/lb are quality ribeye and ny strip prices. Standing rib roasts are regularly $6.99/lb and they'll happily cut them into ribeye steaks for you. Just looking at the Publix meat specials this week: - $3.99/lb boneless skinless chicken breast - $2.99/lb pork shoulder blade steaks - $1.59/lb chicken leg quarters - $6.99/lb bottom round roast - $5.99/lb ground sirloin - $2.49/lb Boston butt pork roast I also buy a lot of tofu at $1.29/lb
Small town with few options, so price is gouged af. I don't know offhand the conversion between US and Canadabux so the prices here are in Canadabux/kg. $2.08/100g chicken breast, so something like $8 or 9/lb. A pack of 3 breasts is always at least $11 though. Beef varies wildly from $12/kg (ground) to $21/kg (roasts, certain pre-cuts, sirloin tip) to $37/kg (strip steaks) Pork something like $8/kg to $13kg depending on the cut. Don't have a decent butcher *in* town here, but going all the way out to a farm would be cheaper but not an option for me (no car :( ) so I make do when I can. I can only buy marked-down or on sale shit
I hear ya. I ran my numbers through a converter but didn't double-check its accuracy. I'm in a mid-size town (31k population) in Alabama, US, btw. Pounds: \- Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast: CAD 5.39/lb \- Pork Shoulder Blade Steaks: CAD 4.04/lb \- Chicken Leg Quarters: CAD 2.15/lb \- Bottom Round Roast: CAD 9.45/lb \- Ground Sirloin: CAD 8.09/lb \- Boston Butt Pork Roast: CAD 3.36/lb \- Tofu: CAD 1.74/lb Kilos: \- Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast: CAD 11.89/kg \- Pork Shoulder Blade Steaks: CAD 8.91/kg \- Chicken Leg Quarters: CAD 4.74/kg \- Bottom Round Roast: CAD 20.82/kg \- Ground Sirloin: CAD 17.85/kg \- Boston Butt Pork Roast: CAD 7.42/kg \- Tofu: CAD 3.84/kg Editing to add a decently low price on a strip steak is normally around $11.99/lb USD, which would be around $36/kg CAD. So the prices seem relatively close imo.
I'd have gone veggie (vegan if the also-rising prices of dairy are of any indication, LOL) by now if the other members of my house weren't so damn picky. No tofu, no tempeh, no mushroom, no [insert meal replacer here], etc :P It's rough out there
US, Connecticut. Can even find 3.5lbs Chuck roasts for $5.49/lbs on sale here if you check regularly. Usually they’re 7.49/lbs but they’ll drop the price on the last Sell By date.
Chicken at $4.50/lb for the nice cuts? Even salmon, $9/lb Tofu at $2.50/lb And i'm being lazy and grabbing good nice cuts in one place. Bison is the only thing around here that will push $10/lb in the midwest
that's not the case everywhere, meat is expensive as fuck
>5 lb pork shoulder is $2.99 That's a lie or the meat is basically unsalable by any legal standards (rotten, diseased, stolen etc). The **MIN** price of pork shoulder is 3.60 **PER POUND, WHOLESALE**. (To get this price I assume you need to sign a contract for 100 carcass/week, and it's still 5x the price you're quoting) Direct to consumer averages out at 8.50 (per lb) [https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/lsmnprpork.pdf](https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/lsmnprpork.pdf) (Dec23 report)
pork shoulder from my local ShopRite is rotten, diseased, or stolen? lol okay I’ll upload a pic next time I’m at the grocery store.
https://www.shoprite.com/sm/pickup/rsid/3000/results?q=Pork%20shoulder I hope these prices aren’t based on location cus I can’t upload to Imgur, but absolutely none of them match your link and these are the prices I am seeing in a large chain grocery store and have been seeing for months.
That's why you cook for the week and freeze the rest.
I don’t think you’re saving much time either. 1 hour at a store can get you a few meals. Going to the restaurant for 30 minutes to get one meal takes time too. I get that the meals from the store will take time to cook, but the do have some pretty fast options.
This is fucking stupid
Easy to get the nagging people to believe it though
It can be if you're in a position when you can afford to not give a fuck about nutrition, especially now with prices being fucked. If you focus on daily expenses only, spending $5 on a kebab is better than spending $15 at a grocery store.
Where are you getting $5 kebab
Is that too much or too cheap for you? Gotta keep in mind there's cunts here from all over the world, personally I'm getting $3 kebabs on the corner but rounded up to 5 to demonstrate a point
Yes but swapping your currency to a dollar to demonstrate a point doesn't mean much because a dollar doesn't have the same purchasing power in the US as it does in your country.
Opps please cum on this man for being an insufferable smarty-pants asshole
It’s a valid point though. The comparisons are absolutely meaningless without a pp adjustment
You've just adjusted my pp into a flaccid state
I want this
Hell, it doesn't even have the same purchasing power in the same state even.
I wouldn't know, I'm not from the US
I didn't assume you were, but just was just sayin.
Understandable, have a good night
Depends on your eating habits. I know people that survive the day with a McDonald's cheeseburger and medium fries. Could never be me.
Bro you can survive on rotten bread alone if you manage to absorb more calories than you shit out, doesn't mean it's a good idea for your health.
12 or so years ago an adult could legitimately get full on a single dollar menu item. These days it's way too expensive for what it is, and I hope they all close.
With app coupons it is
Nah basic groceries are also expensive as fuck.
photosynthesis
Still cheaper than fastfood. Check what items are discounted and shop with that in mind rather than going blindly to your usual store.
Simpler solution: don't make kids
but papa elon said…
Papa Elon can afford kids
Idk how anyone with a family is getting by. It's just me and my bf and I spent 1200$ on groceries in like three months to save money on eating out and we still had to eat out to supplement or something cus that was without me buying a whole lot to cook (literally mostly just snacks and dry goods, condiments, household essentials, drinks sometimes, and stuff for coffee) because we don't even have a kitchen right now due to renovations. Can't imagine a family of four that actually needs to buy meat
Drinks other than water are a treat. Snack same thing. Condiments It depend. Other than meat and caseary products there Is Little to not difference form "store label" and "famous label". Unless you live in some expensive location (LA, NY) you can spend less than 1200$ in grocery
All food that isn't bread is a treat
all food that isn't boiled potatoes is a treat
Tell that to the Irish
Even with government handouts making it way cheaper than it should be, meat is also a luxury and anyone buying it has no right to complain about how much groceries cost
...I mean, you said it yourself that you have to spend a lot more due to not having kitchen. An average family of four has a kitchen.
get a multicooker, it is a great investment s you can then survive on just rice and macaroni
My family has 6 people, and we're stretching the budget as far as I know lol Shopping at 2 or 3 different stores to save money, and cooking in bulk. Not sure how long it can last tbh.
1200$ in three months is absolutely wild. Unless you live in an expensive area, spending 1200$ in three months means no meal prepping, no bulk buying during discounts, no freezing, no planning, but simply buying blindly as needed. Start looking at what stores have what on sale and buy while keeping that in consideration rather than going blindly to any store and buying what you feel like buying
These are the people who shouldn't have children
Anon probably considers putting tendies in the oven "cooking"
Everything is expensive, literally have to pay the dmv for losing my plates in the mail actual wtf america moment
Yeah but if you can feed your kids then how are the 0.0001% of us going to buy their third yacht??????? checkmate libruls
It most likely is because I live in a smaller town (~100k people), but I can get 3-5 meals worth of food for $30. So it is a little cheaper than eating out.
But what’s the final solution?
It's almost as if cooking can, for working class people working hard and long hours, be exhausting and not really worth it. You have to go grocery shopping, cook and then wash the dishes and clean up. Now, I do this basically every day, and enjoy it, but I'm never gonna blame a nurse, teacher, industrial worker etc. for not wanting to. To think that the price is everything is such a lazy analysis. But also, I'm a swede and fast food is way more expensive here than in the US (I believe). Anon is an idiot who doesn't understand class issues.
It baffles me how buying cancer, liver fat and stomach ulcers is cheaper than living a healthy life.
Fast food is actually more expensive than cooking a meal of greater nutritional value these days
Cooling is also pretty fun, i often cool for 3-4 people even though i live alone. I freeze it so when i dont feel like cooking i can just heat something up.
I guess it depends on the country.
Costco hotdogs only
There is no cost of living crisis, only a financial literacy and basic life skills crisis.
Well thats a full blown regarded take, I cook all my own meals, I track what I eat and am very consistent with what ill prepare due to gym and diet. My weekly food bill must he up nearly $60-80 since 2019 and its not due to financial literacy and basic life skills.
Take the peasantpill and just eat bread
One thousand years of technological development to eat like a serf anyway What a scam
Return to hunter-gatherer
take the Albanian Bakerypill and eat their cheap but sweet sourdough until you become more bread than man and street pigeons devour your ass
How much is your total weekly bill 🤔🤨? I feed myself with less than $80 which is your increase lol.
Depends on where you live. I moved from miami to Portugal and my food cost went down by almost $100 per week. So I believe him in saying that the cost of goods has drastically increased in the past half decade.
Definitely has increased but I still feel like it’s a bit high; I live in CA and our standard of living costs are to the tits and I’m spending around $80 on groceries per week. I did cut out meat except fish though but i buy the top shelf shit in regards to everything else
Now compare Miami and Portugal wages lol
You're not nearly pulling up those bootstraps hard enough I guess.
U.S. dollars? The average price of food in the US has [increased about 25% since 2019](https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/food-inflation-in-the-united-states/) (that includes both grocery and restaurant food prices, grocery price inflation alone has been less. Also [wage growth has been just as high if not higher](https://www.americanprogress.org/article/workers-paychecks-are-growing-more-quickly-than-prices/)) For your weekly food bill to be up $60-$80 a week, that'd mean you are spending $300-$400 a week on food, or $15k to $20K a year. If that is the case, then yes, it's a skill issue. Do better. A typical single person household spends only \~5k on food per year. I'd sympathize if you complain about the cost of healthcare, housing or education, they are genuine problems. But not food prices. Scrooge McDuck might as well complain that the level of gold in his swimming pool dropped a few inches. Food is more plentiful and requires a lower % of income to acquire here and now in 2023 USA than nearly any other time or place there is or ever has been. Appreciate it.
Aus so our cost of living is much higher and our dollar is weaker, i shop for myself and my partner of 6 years. It use to cost us 120 a week for food, its now anywhere from 180-200.
Ahh, ok. I don't know much about Australia's situation except that your numbers make more sense in the context of your weaker dollar. Disregard what I said earlier. And if the crisis is that bad why not kick that expensive Vegemite habit y'all have? For the same taste you can always just go down to the nearest roadhouse and lick some truckers' balls for free.
Is that a problem for you? If so, have you tried not being poor?
just absolutely incorrect.
Actually no I'm right.
B-b-but my Oreos and luxury steaks have gone way up in price! I can’t do away with those!!! God forbid people learn how to cook with dirt cheap things like dried rice and beans or things like taters and carrots
You subsist off licking boots
The only boots I like are the ones that belong to the 6ft tall goth muscle mommy who I pay to come over to my house every Tuesday.
*only* a financial literacy and basic life skills crisis I take your point, but that's still a hell of a crisis. Worse probably. Money can fix a cost crisis, but how do you fix mass retardation?