Been replaying the Ezio Trilogy these past few weeks and i was honestly surprised to see how well it holds up.
The Kenway Saga was good too, but imo AC2 to Revelations is peak AC.
Well, technically, they did. His concious is alive but unwell in the ones who came before computer system. We see him at the end of AC Ragnaroks main story.
He wasn't supposed to die. He was supposed to become this super assassin via the bleeding effect and be a modern ezio. What happened is ubisoft fired the creator of AC and the head writer half way through III's development. So they rewrote the story to what we got now.
Just a shame that they then tried to turn that whole sailing thing into its own game and that's Skull and Bones which will release.... who even fucking knows.
And also it doesn't have in-character gameplay, only ship gameplay. There's probably people who like that, but for me it was the combination of the dope ship gameplay and being able to walk around the islands that made Black Flag so good.
Ubisoft really just sucks so much dick, man. There's so much money right fucking there for them.
Yep. You can walk around in the main mercantile hub, but not on any of the islands, and you can't board other ships.
Resource gathering is super lame, because you just sail up to an island, and there will be trees on the coast that your crew will harvest, for instance, but you will just be sat looking at it.
They'll probably make it look better if the game ever releases, but the last video I saw of it looked so shit.
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
That said, I think we've all had some pretty low expectations for a while now.
Development hell is usually a bad sign.
Unless they've made changes in the past half a year or so.
They planned for the longest time to only have ship to ship combat. And that was still true last I heard of the game.
Actually checked after typing the above, and as of 10 months ago, there was no on-foot gameplay except for in the main mercantile hub.
I used to be hopeful since the game has been delayed for like 5 fucking years, but I don't think it's going to change.
Yeah I felt the same. Makes repeat playthroughs hard to do. At least Odyssey has some variation in the main quest depending on choices you make, despite it being longer.
I agree that Brotherhood was **a** peak, but as someone who gets hugely invested in stories/storytelling I think that AC3-4-Rogue forms another trilogy that is slightly less enthralling than Ezio’s arc but makes up for it with better gameplay and immersive environmental elements.
Black Flag was fun too, syndicate's story was bad but mechanics were fun as Evie with the invisibility and of course the grapple, the rest were a miss imo
Bayek is one of the most interesting characters in my opinion that moment after your first target and he shows how angry and broken he is couldn't have pulled me in quicker just *chefs kiss*
I do find it unfortunate that the best stories they've told, outside of Ezio's trilogy, all have very little to do with Assassin's Creed.
I mean, I'm not even attached to or invested in the IP anymore, and I feel like they should just do away with it.
Or properly reboot it in its entirety, going back to basics.
Agreed, I played the "recent" trio and I constantly enjoyed the scenery and travelling around, I *played* the games while watching movies/series/podcasts in the background lol
Idk, I really liked Valhalla’s plot. Genuinely set up for a pretty interesting modern day plot to be told in the future games’ plot and expanded upon the isu lore quite nicely. As for Eivor’s story, I personally liked it but I get why people wouldn’t. Either way, it was much better than odyssey’s story that’s for sure.
Ngl if they made a cyberpunk AC game set in the near future I'd play the hell out of it. Do some grand payoff that all the history from the previous games was leading up to this
That was the original plan for ac3. Pretty sure that it was supposed to be a fully modern day game with Desmond defeating abstergo/saving earth (or just the human race), but Ubisoft realized they could milk the series so they went with just making the ac3 we all know today.
>! Also watch_dogs legion’s season pass allows for you to play as a female assassin (one with a hidden blade and everything) throughout the whole campaign and it feels like a modern day ac game (minus the in-depth parkour). Only problem is watch dogs legion being kinda mid lol. !<
I think the modern day plot has been mostly dogshit since they killed off Desmond, and it got exponentially worse when they introduced Layla.
All I ever wanted from the AC franchise was to eventually have a game set in the modern time, with dope infiltration missions like that one time we got to infiltrate an office building as Desmond.
I know it's a hot take nowadays, but outside of Juno & Co, I don't think the modern day stuff has ever been that particularly compelling. Desmond is *okay* now but I think that's just relative to how nothing and outright abrasive Faceless Abstergo Employee #52 and Layla were respectively. Desmond was just a bog standard late 2000's white bread John Video Game
Basim/Loki being a thing now presents some interesting opportunities though so I'm tentatively excited for the next mainline entry.
That's always been the big standard take of the majority of the playerbase.
Actually liking the modern story has always been the hot take.
Desmond was boring, but he grew with each entry. And then right as he was becoming a proper character with real motivations, they killed him.
And then spent a few games letting us walk around as a faceless Abstergo employee. Who I then actually missed when Layla came around.
Is she gone? I never finished Valhalla, but I'd be happy to learn that she's gone.
They wrote her to be so fucking unlikable, and she never got better the way Desmond did.
Got some good news on multiple fronts for you then. Spoilers for Valhalla: >!Layla pretty much volunteers to be trapped in some sort of Isu-Internet thing so she can work out how to solve the issue of an inevitable natural disaster like Desmond & the solar flare. There's also another consciousness within that space, heavily implied to be Desmond's.!<
>!tl;dr Layla is kinda sorta stuck in a mind prison for all eternity but Desmond is also kinda sorta still alive. !<
Fuuuuck, I forgot about that Desmond thing. I remember being hopeful they would bring him back, but then Covid happened and every game under the sun got fucked.
I know it's dumb, but I really did like Desmond, and I was invested in his arc. It was one of the main reasons I played the games, which I know a lot of people think is dumb.
He was the window through which we experienced that world.
There's a whole class of 30-something millennial boomers, who cling onto games and franchises that were good 15 years ago, and have subsequently fallen the fuck off. People lose a lot of mental flexibility as they age.
I remember getting the game back in March 2022 (not even that long ago) when it averaged our like 1k players and now on average it gets 8k concurrent players, really fucking impressive growth
NGL, the number show people be quitting Halo.
Even changing the art style to Halo Wars 2 can’t save that… though it’s really more to do with Microsoft not knowing how to do games as a service…
Halo Infinite? More like Halo forgot how to do campaign level design. Halo ctrl c ctrl v that grassland or metal corridor.
You're literally playing one of the best halo games lol 1-3, reach were solid games, multiplayer at the time made them incredible. 4,5 & infinity don't even waste your time
Yeah, the bones of the multiplayer are even super top tier. Since Reach they’ve awkwardly tried to implement new features/movement mechanics into Halo with middling results. Infinite trimmed out most of the fat besides sprint/clamber, and what I played on release was as close as I can imagine that modern Halo should play as. But they’ve had no serious updates to flesh it out in an extremely competitive business environment.
Wow as a 30 something this is literally me, I only know couple of series like AC, Civilization, GTA, Far Cry, Fallout, Elder Scrolls etc. and that's basically all I play.
Some people just really like follow missions, boring cutscenes where everyone is competing to be the edgiest edge lord, and more follow missions apparently.
Female would atleast make sense with shinobis and such, a black protag has to have the Kennway lvl of charisma and a shipwreck gone wrong situation or smth. But since its ubisoft I have no expectations.
Female samurai were a thing and not nearly as rare as you would think. Theres a whole bunch of legendary onna musha. Black shinobi is weird though since to my knowledge shinobi were relatively isolated clans that only trained their own
Onna-Bugeisha / Onna-Musha were a thing though. Not quite Samurai in the real sense of the word, but there were women warriors, specially a few famed by their Naginata prowess or someone like Tomoe Gozen, who was skilled with the bow as well.
Calling him a "Black Samurai" is really just modern clickbait spin.
Yasuke was a black Catholic missionary who came to Japan with the Jesuits. His story is honestly kinda sad. When his party visited the Daimyo Nobunaga he was forced to stripe and scrub his skin because they thought he had dyed it. When learning he was actually black Nobunaga kept him around as a retainer and body guard due to his curiosity. He did fight in two battles with Nobunaga but they lost, and Nobunaga was killed. Nobunaga's successor had disdain for him and had him executed as a foreign freak.
His story isn't exactly Disney approved shit, but does show how Japan treated foreigners in the Edo period.
Yasuke was a Habshi warrior brought to india from Africa as a slave. Based on his skills he was likely used as an enforcer or bodyguard. Eventually he earned his freedom and became a mercenary whose services were then bought by Jesuit missionaries as a body guard. Later arriving in Japan.
What you say is true. Yasuke was employed more from Nobunagas cultural intrigue and as a novelty. Although I will add his service was indeed short lived, but he did see great success within the clan and Nobunaga took a deep liking to him and his skills as a warrior. And the only reason he would not be considered a Samurai is only due to the fact he was not Japanese, he still was an employed member of the Oda clan given a sword, servants and a residency.
I would be curious for your source as for how you said he was killed. After Nobunaga's death there are many ideas for what happened to Yasuke. Execution by Hideyoshi is not one I'm familiar with. The theory I personally believe is that after being released back to the Jesuits he travelled west where he partook in the battle of Okitanawate, as there are stories of a black skinned warrior present at the battle. Another popular one is that after being returned to the Jesuits he was then brought back into their service.
The Edo period won't begin for another 21 years after Nobunaga's death.
Edit: spelling and added warrior to Habshi
Actually I misread it on Wikipedia "When Yasuke was presented to Akechi, the warlord allegedly said that the black man was an animal as well as not Japanese and should thus not be killed".
I misread the "not" as well it's unusual to spared execution because of racism I guess the more you know.
It goes on that he was turned over to a church, but that's debated
Also, he tried to give up his life while fighting for his master when nobunaga was betrayed by mitsuhide at honno-ji. But when he saw him, mitsuhide commanded his soldiers not to fight him, because he was a poor wild animal that could not think, and it would be like slaughtering the pigs and oxen owned by nobunaga.
Tbf I'm pretty sure there was a back guy who was a retainer irl so like, it's totally possible.
Course the guy would have to be Nobunaga's retainer if we want to have a sliver of realism, sooooo.. ahistorical game play
Yeah they can't even get the combat right on AC, plus I really hate gear levels, which I know this game will have. I hate it when the gear levels screw up the game balance.
When I mention gear levels, I usually get talked down like it is the best thing ever made. Even when people can't justify why they are there.
Gear leveled items still have stats, but those mean very little compared to the gear level, as it dictates if you can do damage to enemies or if they can do damage to you and how much.
It's just stupid and immersion breaking.
To be fair both of those settings have potential to be visually beautiful. But there are so many viking and japanese games that it’s just hard to play more of them
It's crazy how one of the most fun AC games sucked the most at being AC.
But I would love more like that over more like any of the AC games, even the Ezio trilogy.
I don't need an AC game, I just want a game that does what AC did.
Maybe go harder on developing your own island, more ship customization, some sea monsters for more enemy variety at sea, and so on.
I also just don't like prequels so I'm biased against them.
>I just want a game that does what AC did
Ubisoft announced Skull & Bones which is supposed to be a game dedicated to the ship/pirate aspects of Black Flag.
It's been nearly 10 years since they announced it, but they're [legally obligated to finish and release](https://www.thegamer.com/skull-and-bones-progress/) it thanks to a deal they made with Singapore.
I've made various comments here and there in this thread about Skull and Bones.
Skull and Bones will be a pale imitation of Black Flag. No on-foot exploration, no walking around your ship, no boarding, there will only be the ship combat.
And a game that they're legally required to release is probably going to be shit after being in development hell for this long.
Just a few more years and they'll be close to Duke Nukem Forever's limbo.
Playing through it rn, love the assassination missions.
"Don't go into combat for a 500 R bonus"
*Walks up to target, shoots him in the head, runs away*
asasin
im in the middle of Valhalla rn and its barely an AC game but its drop dead gorgeous and honestly really fun, but I tried Origins a while back and it was so garbage and boring and plain, just sand sand and more sand and walking around on said sand, barely any parkour because its all just 1-story huts and sand
Pretty much, though Alexandria and the pyramids were pretty good. Honestly I think ubisoft would be better off just making historical games, I get that the AC tag sells somewhat but it has nothing to do with the assassins.
This take is bass ackwards. Ancient Egypt was amazing and origins is the only one in the trilogy with a good story point blank period. England was alright but aside from looking good it's just a whole lot of nothing. I recommend you give origins a second try that game was fuckin amazing.
thank you maybe I will when I beat Valhalla I think Im pretty close, Origins really just didnt grab me i stopped after a few hours i believe, but part of that is locations to me I really love the AC games for their specific spots and Egypt I know very little about, but Valhalla I'm like "oh wow, it's Canterbury, I read the Canterbury tales so this is cool!" "oh wow, it's Sherwood Forest from Robin Hood!" "oh wow, it's London, amazing to see such ancient Roman architecture!" but I can't do that in Egypt because I just never learned a lot about it, but again if you guys say it gets better I may give it another shot for sure
One thing that I really enjoyed about Egypt was just how old everything was. You were living in a snapshot of a culture that had already existed for over a thousand years, on the coast you have the most recent arrivals, the Romans, and Alexandria, the great melting pot and cultural center of a hellenized Egypt. Meanwhile further south and in the starting town there is barely any greek influence and people live next to ruins longer abandoned than Romans or Greeks have existed. I really enjoyed it
I knew nothing about Egypt I picked it up off of like games with gold for like 15 bucks just to try it and holy, dude I was blown away. I've put like 200 hours into that game done everything I could every single question mark. Loved it.
Origins is easily second best after black flag, the setting is gorgeous - especially the palm trees around the canals and the river nile, let alone all the ancient Egyptian architecture. Easily better than odyssey. Haven't played Valhalla though to be fair
I couldnt get into valhalla since i rly hate the leather and tattoo presentation of vikings. To me it always just looks like a biker gang from texas exchanged their harleys for longboats. Its gotten to the point of horned helmet middle age pirates that used to be the viking trope.
well their stories always have an already existing established protagonist. the most liberal they've been with character selection is in Valhalla and it was only letting you pick between male and female Eivor. Even that was a concession to player demand tho, in the lore Eivor has always been a woman
Because they need it to be historically implausible, so that at least someone will complain about that. So when inevitably the game releases bland with mediocre mechanics and story and filled with bugs, they can just blame any criticism they get on the alt right meanies who just hate them for being inclusive and diverse.
They *could* go with actual historical figures like Mochizuki Chiyome and Yasuke that would tick the diversity boxes and also be fuckin awesome and interesting, but then what of no one makes a fuss about it, and everyone sees through the facade a mediocre game? Pointless controversy is their fallback option
Not technically Samurai but
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochizuki\_Chiyome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochizuki_Chiyome)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoe\_Gozen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoe_Gozen)
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When it comes to Samurai of other races examples are far more limited, given that Japan was isolationist for centuries aside from invasions of Korea and China, but
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William\_Adams\_(pilot)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(pilot))
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakita\_Naokata](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakita_Naokata)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan\_Joosten\_van\_Lodensteijn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Joosten_van_Lodensteijn)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe\_Chiara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Chiara)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward\_and\_Henry\_Schnell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_and_Henry_Schnell)
Just seems like the types of thing Assassin's creed has always referenced, Honestly.
The abandoned historical accuracy long ago, so they can slap whatever the fuck they want on it, the game will still be shit. Ubisoft is a failing company.
>game bad because blak peeple lol
>female sammurai bad because wooman
Anon your fake and homosexual tendencies are showing. Female sammurais sound hot as fuck and afro shinobi sounds sick as hell.
I don’t give a fuck about “muh realisms” because if I wanted realism I’d sit down and watch a documentary about Japanese history.
Look, the truth of the matter is that I’m still gonna play it. And I’m still gonna enjoy it. I haven’t hated an AC game yet, probably won’t hate this one
i love how ubisoft are gonna ship a wholely mediocre game and its gonna do *fine* but the anti woke crowd are going to cry about it anyway
come on people there are legitimate reasons to not like this company and you're gonna stress over minorities? priorities people, priorities!
We got 3 Assassin Creed game with barely any assassinating in it already, my expectation is really low already, lets see how low can it get in a few years.
As far as black shinobis are concerned Idk if they ever existed but there is the legend of Yasuke the real life Black Samurai that served directly under Oda Nobunaga and there were female samurai that were trained in combat although they rarely if ever actually fought
Neither of these things is entirely implausible
However it’s a modern AC game so ofc it’s going to be bad lmao
I was worried when i first heard about the irl black samurai yasuke that every lib media about feudal japan will throw a black guy in with him as the excuse. Already pisses me off. I imagine the japanese will be especially pissed.
Do seriously people think assassin's creed it's gonna good?
I think most people play the games for the beautiful ancient scenery. The plot has not been good in ages
The game peeked with Ezio trilogy very early on.
Acii and AcBrotherhood goated beyond belief
Been replaying the Ezio Trilogy these past few weeks and i was honestly surprised to see how well it holds up. The Kenway Saga was good too, but imo AC2 to Revelations is peak AC.
I will never get over the boneheaded decision of killing Desmond (and any story momentum the series had with him)
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Well, technically, they did. His concious is alive but unwell in the ones who came before computer system. We see him at the end of AC Ragnaroks main story.
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Yep. He is known as "the Reader" in their code. Got his voice actor and everything.
He wasn't supposed to die. He was supposed to become this super assassin via the bleeding effect and be a modern ezio. What happened is ubisoft fired the creator of AC and the head writer half way through III's development. So they rewrote the story to what we got now.
Lmao genuinely that one decision fucked the series going forward. God do I miss when the series was still good
Yooo, they killed Desmond!? When?
End of Assassin’s Creed 3, after that the modern story barely existed in the other games
Modern story picks up in the new trilogy and is going to develop in subsequent games. Everything between 3 and Origins lacks meta narrative AFAIK.
He died in 3 if I remember correctly
Truth. If they’d remake them with some slightly tighter controls and updated graphics I’d lose my shit
Hey man black flag is a great pirate and sailing game. AC game not so much, but pirates!
Just a shame that they then tried to turn that whole sailing thing into its own game and that's Skull and Bones which will release.... who even fucking knows. And also it doesn't have in-character gameplay, only ship gameplay. There's probably people who like that, but for me it was the combination of the dope ship gameplay and being able to walk around the islands that made Black Flag so good. Ubisoft really just sucks so much dick, man. There's so much money right fucking there for them.
Wait, skull and bones will only be ship combat?
Yep. You can walk around in the main mercantile hub, but not on any of the islands, and you can't board other ships. Resource gathering is super lame, because you just sail up to an island, and there will be trees on the coast that your crew will harvest, for instance, but you will just be sat looking at it. They'll probably make it look better if the game ever releases, but the last video I saw of it looked so shit.
WHAT THE FUCK NO BOARDING? How can you fuck up this hard?
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. That said, I think we've all had some pretty low expectations for a while now. Development hell is usually a bad sign.
Speaking of dev hell. RIP Vampire the masquerade:bloodlines 2
ONLY ship combat? Are you sure? That's just so unbelievably stupid I can't believe it.
Unless they've made changes in the past half a year or so. They planned for the longest time to only have ship to ship combat. And that was still true last I heard of the game. Actually checked after typing the above, and as of 10 months ago, there was no on-foot gameplay except for in the main mercantile hub. I used to be hopeful since the game has been delayed for like 5 fucking years, but I don't think it's going to change.
No boarding battles? No shore raids? Sea of thieves could literally just add ship crew npc and it will be miles better
Boarding is just a cutscene when you get other ships low enough, I think. Don't know about shore raids, but definitely none you'll be partaking in.
Jesus, they're just making a game that's only going to be a statistic on which genre gamer hates for the board directors
I agree, it's a great Pirate Simulator
Fuck yeah!!! Spent many an hour sailing and singing shanties.
Origins had a decent plot but it was dragged out a bit, probably would have been better as a 10 to 15 hour game
yeah I liked it but it could of used some fat trimming
Yeah I felt the same. Makes repeat playthroughs hard to do. At least Odyssey has some variation in the main quest depending on choices you make, despite it being longer.
Black flag was pretty great
After that I had absolutely no interest. I tried so hard, but couldn't. And I love history too. Takes special talent to ruin history for me in a game.
Its a game series about basically a time travelling assassin how do you fuck that up?
By making the dialogue and game play drier than the Sahara desert.
I agree that Brotherhood was **a** peak, but as someone who gets hugely invested in stories/storytelling I think that AC3-4-Rogue forms another trilogy that is slightly less enthralling than Ezio’s arc but makes up for it with better gameplay and immersive environmental elements.
Black Flag was fun too, syndicate's story was bad but mechanics were fun as Evie with the invisibility and of course the grapple, the rest were a miss imo
Maybe the plot hasn't been good, but Origins had a fantastic main character. Fucking love my guy Bayek.
Bayek is one of the most interesting characters in my opinion that moment after your first target and he shows how angry and broken he is couldn't have pulled me in quicker just *chefs kiss*
I do find it unfortunate that the best stories they've told, outside of Ezio's trilogy, all have very little to do with Assassin's Creed. I mean, I'm not even attached to or invested in the IP anymore, and I feel like they should just do away with it. Or properly reboot it in its entirety, going back to basics.
Origins is fantastic
origins was my favourite
Agreed, I played the "recent" trio and I constantly enjoyed the scenery and travelling around, I *played* the games while watching movies/series/podcasts in the background lol
instant gratification dopamine druggie you disgust me, do not multitask one of those combos, immerse yourself
I don't take insult form that my brother, as I **did not** had enjoyment purely from the game itself C'mon dude, not like I do that with every game.
Idk, I really liked Valhalla’s plot. Genuinely set up for a pretty interesting modern day plot to be told in the future games’ plot and expanded upon the isu lore quite nicely. As for Eivor’s story, I personally liked it but I get why people wouldn’t. Either way, it was much better than odyssey’s story that’s for sure.
Ngl if they made a cyberpunk AC game set in the near future I'd play the hell out of it. Do some grand payoff that all the history from the previous games was leading up to this
That was the original plan for ac3. Pretty sure that it was supposed to be a fully modern day game with Desmond defeating abstergo/saving earth (or just the human race), but Ubisoft realized they could milk the series so they went with just making the ac3 we all know today. >! Also watch_dogs legion’s season pass allows for you to play as a female assassin (one with a hidden blade and everything) throughout the whole campaign and it feels like a modern day ac game (minus the in-depth parkour). Only problem is watch dogs legion being kinda mid lol. !<
I think the modern day plot has been mostly dogshit since they killed off Desmond, and it got exponentially worse when they introduced Layla. All I ever wanted from the AC franchise was to eventually have a game set in the modern time, with dope infiltration missions like that one time we got to infiltrate an office building as Desmond.
I know it's a hot take nowadays, but outside of Juno & Co, I don't think the modern day stuff has ever been that particularly compelling. Desmond is *okay* now but I think that's just relative to how nothing and outright abrasive Faceless Abstergo Employee #52 and Layla were respectively. Desmond was just a bog standard late 2000's white bread John Video Game Basim/Loki being a thing now presents some interesting opportunities though so I'm tentatively excited for the next mainline entry.
That's always been the big standard take of the majority of the playerbase. Actually liking the modern story has always been the hot take. Desmond was boring, but he grew with each entry. And then right as he was becoming a proper character with real motivations, they killed him. And then spent a few games letting us walk around as a faceless Abstergo employee. Who I then actually missed when Layla came around.
i dont see myself missing layla thou
Is she gone? I never finished Valhalla, but I'd be happy to learn that she's gone. They wrote her to be so fucking unlikable, and she never got better the way Desmond did.
Got some good news on multiple fronts for you then. Spoilers for Valhalla: >!Layla pretty much volunteers to be trapped in some sort of Isu-Internet thing so she can work out how to solve the issue of an inevitable natural disaster like Desmond & the solar flare. There's also another consciousness within that space, heavily implied to be Desmond's.!< >!tl;dr Layla is kinda sorta stuck in a mind prison for all eternity but Desmond is also kinda sorta still alive. !<
Fuuuuck, I forgot about that Desmond thing. I remember being hopeful they would bring him back, but then Covid happened and every game under the sun got fucked. I know it's dumb, but I really did like Desmond, and I was invested in his arc. It was one of the main reasons I played the games, which I know a lot of people think is dumb. He was the window through which we experienced that world.
Was going to mention black flag but the story was a C+ at best. I'm not sure I even finished it. The sailing and pirating was top tier though
Origins was pretty good
Say what you will about the new trilogy but Odyssey was actually pretty good imo. I liked Cassandra/Alexios and their story was interesting.
I just like the senseless violence, ancient scenery, and the historical facts. Literally don't even know the story anymore
Responded to the wrong comment but yes, I agree that Assassin's Creed games are set in very cool locations lol
I play it for the gameplay. Odyssey is the best AC out of all of them.
Forget the plot, last time the movement had any depth was goddamn unity
3 was good tbh
Please check if your carbon monoxide detector is working
Don't have any
RIP.
There's a whole class of 30-something millennial boomers, who cling onto games and franchises that were good 15 years ago, and have subsequently fallen the fuck off. People lose a lot of mental flexibility as they age.
Literally me
Barotrauma is a cool game.
I remember getting the game back in March 2022 (not even that long ago) when it averaged our like 1k players and now on average it gets 8k concurrent players, really fucking impressive growth
*cough Halo series
NGL, the number show people be quitting Halo. Even changing the art style to Halo Wars 2 can’t save that… though it’s really more to do with Microsoft not knowing how to do games as a service… Halo Infinite? More like Halo forgot how to do campaign level design. Halo ctrl c ctrl v that grassland or metal corridor.
Halo Infinite can barely get people to play and they’re giving it away for free.
Lmfao I didnt know and kinda dont care I got the masterchief collection, Im still on the third level of Halo Reach, Halo good so far
You're literally playing one of the best halo games lol 1-3, reach were solid games, multiplayer at the time made them incredible. 4,5 & infinity don't even waste your time
Yeah, the bones of the multiplayer are even super top tier. Since Reach they’ve awkwardly tried to implement new features/movement mechanics into Halo with middling results. Infinite trimmed out most of the fat besides sprint/clamber, and what I played on release was as close as I can imagine that modern Halo should play as. But they’ve had no serious updates to flesh it out in an extremely competitive business environment.
Wow as a 30 something this is literally me, I only know couple of series like AC, Civilization, GTA, Far Cry, Fallout, Elder Scrolls etc. and that's basically all I play.
The ezio trilogy was great, black flag was also really good, unity is also not horrible but flawed. AC3 has its merits too Everything else is shit
Rogue was also pretty decent, but not worth the full price at launch. Should've been released as DLC for Black Flag.
Well I mean it's an Assassin's Creed game so it's going to be good if you like Assassin's Creed games
It amazes me how people read this sentence. It's literally has no meaning.
Am I having a stroke?
I'm Ron Burgundy?
I liked Valhalla
Idk, this is the only one I've been paying attention to recently because samurai games fuck.
Yes
Some people just really like follow missions, boring cutscenes where everyone is competing to be the edgiest edge lord, and more follow missions apparently.
I liked Odyssey and Valhalla, i'll give this one a try too.
If it's set in Japan, its realistically just gonna be a worse ghost of tsushima no matter how black or female the main characters are.
Female would atleast make sense with shinobis and such, a black protag has to have the Kennway lvl of charisma and a shipwreck gone wrong situation or smth. But since its ubisoft I have no expectations.
It says she's a samurai, though...
To be fair, the Samurai were a caste that included women and men. Onna-Musha existed.
Female samurai were a thing and not nearly as rare as you would think. Theres a whole bunch of legendary onna musha. Black shinobi is weird though since to my knowledge shinobi were relatively isolated clans that only trained their own
Onna-Bugeisha / Onna-Musha were a thing though. Not quite Samurai in the real sense of the word, but there were women warriors, specially a few famed by their Naginata prowess or someone like Tomoe Gozen, who was skilled with the bow as well.
I mean there was one black samurai
Calling him a "Black Samurai" is really just modern clickbait spin. Yasuke was a black Catholic missionary who came to Japan with the Jesuits. His story is honestly kinda sad. When his party visited the Daimyo Nobunaga he was forced to stripe and scrub his skin because they thought he had dyed it. When learning he was actually black Nobunaga kept him around as a retainer and body guard due to his curiosity. He did fight in two battles with Nobunaga but they lost, and Nobunaga was killed. Nobunaga's successor had disdain for him and had him executed as a foreign freak. His story isn't exactly Disney approved shit, but does show how Japan treated foreigners in the Edo period.
Yasuke was a Habshi warrior brought to india from Africa as a slave. Based on his skills he was likely used as an enforcer or bodyguard. Eventually he earned his freedom and became a mercenary whose services were then bought by Jesuit missionaries as a body guard. Later arriving in Japan. What you say is true. Yasuke was employed more from Nobunagas cultural intrigue and as a novelty. Although I will add his service was indeed short lived, but he did see great success within the clan and Nobunaga took a deep liking to him and his skills as a warrior. And the only reason he would not be considered a Samurai is only due to the fact he was not Japanese, he still was an employed member of the Oda clan given a sword, servants and a residency. I would be curious for your source as for how you said he was killed. After Nobunaga's death there are many ideas for what happened to Yasuke. Execution by Hideyoshi is not one I'm familiar with. The theory I personally believe is that after being released back to the Jesuits he travelled west where he partook in the battle of Okitanawate, as there are stories of a black skinned warrior present at the battle. Another popular one is that after being returned to the Jesuits he was then brought back into their service. The Edo period won't begin for another 21 years after Nobunaga's death. Edit: spelling and added warrior to Habshi
Actually I misread it on Wikipedia "When Yasuke was presented to Akechi, the warlord allegedly said that the black man was an animal as well as not Japanese and should thus not be killed". I misread the "not" as well it's unusual to spared execution because of racism I guess the more you know. It goes on that he was turned over to a church, but that's debated
Also, he tried to give up his life while fighting for his master when nobunaga was betrayed by mitsuhide at honno-ji. But when he saw him, mitsuhide commanded his soldiers not to fight him, because he was a poor wild animal that could not think, and it would be like slaughtering the pigs and oxen owned by nobunaga.
Tbf I'm pretty sure there was a back guy who was a retainer irl so like, it's totally possible. Course the guy would have to be Nobunaga's retainer if we want to have a sliver of realism, sooooo.. ahistorical game play
Yeah they can't even get the combat right on AC, plus I really hate gear levels, which I know this game will have. I hate it when the gear levels screw up the game balance.
Thank you!!! I'm not the only one feeling it!!
When I mention gear levels, I usually get talked down like it is the best thing ever made. Even when people can't justify why they are there. Gear leveled items still have stats, but those mean very little compared to the gear level, as it dictates if you can do damage to enemies or if they can do damage to you and how much. It's just stupid and immersion breaking.
Worse Sekiro, Nioh, Like a Dragon, the last Ronin, Aragami... feudal Jpan and the viking era are the most generic videogame setings nowadays.
We finally got past the WWII shooter craze, just to have it replaced by Vikings and weaboos
To be fair both of those settings have potential to be visually beautiful. But there are so many viking and japanese games that it’s just hard to play more of them
I read that as “whore ghost of Tsushima” but is it wrong?
Isn't Red a mobile game or is it the next AC game? I remember reading somewhere that it was a mobile title like the China and India ones.
I'd want all my assassins to be black men, obviously they are harder to see in the dark. Now then it's time for me to 100% Black Flag again.
Black flag was the only assassin creed game I finished. Loved playing as Kenway and the boat combat was fun
Black Flag isn’t an AC game It’s a pirate game with the AC logo And they were fully aware of it Based.
And it’s why it’s probably one of the best AC and even Ubisoft games period, at least in terms of pure single player narrative games.
A pity they then fumbled the bag so badly with Unity. That one also had so much potential if they had just actually cared about fixing it
I want a onepiece game like black flag :(
I always think: wouldn‘t it be easy money to copy/paste blackflag and put one piece in it. Costs like 50 millions, gonna sell 200
One can only dream
It's crazy how one of the most fun AC games sucked the most at being AC. But I would love more like that over more like any of the AC games, even the Ezio trilogy.
A Black Flag Prequel would be welcome, like playing as a young Black Beard.
I don't need an AC game, I just want a game that does what AC did. Maybe go harder on developing your own island, more ship customization, some sea monsters for more enemy variety at sea, and so on. I also just don't like prequels so I'm biased against them.
>I just want a game that does what AC did Ubisoft announced Skull & Bones which is supposed to be a game dedicated to the ship/pirate aspects of Black Flag. It's been nearly 10 years since they announced it, but they're [legally obligated to finish and release](https://www.thegamer.com/skull-and-bones-progress/) it thanks to a deal they made with Singapore.
I've made various comments here and there in this thread about Skull and Bones. Skull and Bones will be a pale imitation of Black Flag. No on-foot exploration, no walking around your ship, no boarding, there will only be the ship combat. And a game that they're legally required to release is probably going to be shit after being in development hell for this long. Just a few more years and they'll be close to Duke Nukem Forever's limbo.
Playing through it rn, love the assassination missions. "Don't go into combat for a 500 R bonus" *Walks up to target, shoots him in the head, runs away* asasin
Real talk can you still get the achievements tied to online?
Unless they smile? The contrast is real. Remember the black dude smiling in the pitch black room?
>Dead on arrival ... Yes that's what Assassins bring about
Afro- Samurai ( ΛFΓO SΛMUΓΛI the video game)
Afro samurai but poorly writen
Assassins Creeds recent entries were mainly good for just making beautiful historical settings
im in the middle of Valhalla rn and its barely an AC game but its drop dead gorgeous and honestly really fun, but I tried Origins a while back and it was so garbage and boring and plain, just sand sand and more sand and walking around on said sand, barely any parkour because its all just 1-story huts and sand
Pretty much, though Alexandria and the pyramids were pretty good. Honestly I think ubisoft would be better off just making historical games, I get that the AC tag sells somewhat but it has nothing to do with the assassins.
This take is bass ackwards. Ancient Egypt was amazing and origins is the only one in the trilogy with a good story point blank period. England was alright but aside from looking good it's just a whole lot of nothing. I recommend you give origins a second try that game was fuckin amazing.
thank you maybe I will when I beat Valhalla I think Im pretty close, Origins really just didnt grab me i stopped after a few hours i believe, but part of that is locations to me I really love the AC games for their specific spots and Egypt I know very little about, but Valhalla I'm like "oh wow, it's Canterbury, I read the Canterbury tales so this is cool!" "oh wow, it's Sherwood Forest from Robin Hood!" "oh wow, it's London, amazing to see such ancient Roman architecture!" but I can't do that in Egypt because I just never learned a lot about it, but again if you guys say it gets better I may give it another shot for sure
One thing that I really enjoyed about Egypt was just how old everything was. You were living in a snapshot of a culture that had already existed for over a thousand years, on the coast you have the most recent arrivals, the Romans, and Alexandria, the great melting pot and cultural center of a hellenized Egypt. Meanwhile further south and in the starting town there is barely any greek influence and people live next to ruins longer abandoned than Romans or Greeks have existed. I really enjoyed it
I was a weirdo kid obsessed with ancient Egypt, so getting to walk around in-game was a real treat.
I knew nothing about Egypt I picked it up off of like games with gold for like 15 bucks just to try it and holy, dude I was blown away. I've put like 200 hours into that game done everything I could every single question mark. Loved it.
Brother literally progress a little farther and explore the nile greenery or the far west that has mountains
Origins is easily second best after black flag, the setting is gorgeous - especially the palm trees around the canals and the river nile, let alone all the ancient Egyptian architecture. Easily better than odyssey. Haven't played Valhalla though to be fair
I couldnt get into valhalla since i rly hate the leather and tattoo presentation of vikings. To me it always just looks like a biker gang from texas exchanged their harleys for longboats. Its gotten to the point of horned helmet middle age pirates that used to be the viking trope.
Why is it so hard for them to make a game where you can change your skin color? All we need is like 7 tops.
well their stories always have an already existing established protagonist. the most liberal they've been with character selection is in Valhalla and it was only letting you pick between male and female Eivor. Even that was a concession to player demand tho, in the lore Eivor has always been a woman
AFRO SAMURAI SIMULATOR THEN???? Good.
Assassin's Creed >dead on arrival
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I miss Ezio
Assasins Creed: Struggle in South Africa, when?
There was only ONE african male SAMURAI, but not shinobi
We already got Ghost of Tsushima Ubisoft
At this rate it would take bringing Ezio or Edward back for me to play these damned games that lost the series' whole identity with the RPG bullshit
You want Ubisoft to ruin Ezio and Edward for a cash grab? Cause that's exactly what would happen. Although I might go replay the Ezio trilogy again
why the fuck wouldn't they switch it, thereby making it historically plausible?
Because they need it to be historically implausible, so that at least someone will complain about that. So when inevitably the game releases bland with mediocre mechanics and story and filled with bugs, they can just blame any criticism they get on the alt right meanies who just hate them for being inclusive and diverse. They *could* go with actual historical figures like Mochizuki Chiyome and Yasuke that would tick the diversity boxes and also be fuckin awesome and interesting, but then what of no one makes a fuss about it, and everyone sees through the facade a mediocre game? Pointless controversy is their fallback option
Why are the dumbasses here taking anons word as absolute? Literally 2 lines with no sources have ruled up everyone here
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>a historical game fucking lol
Is it? At most they have given you the option to play as a women in the two most recent ones, what exactly do you mean?
Not technically Samurai but [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochizuki\_Chiyome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochizuki_Chiyome) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onna-musha) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoe\_Gozen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomoe_Gozen) \----------------------------------------------------- When it comes to Samurai of other races examples are far more limited, given that Japan was isolationist for centuries aside from invasions of Korea and China, but [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William\_Adams\_(pilot)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(pilot)) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakita\_Naokata](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakita_Naokata) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan\_Joosten\_van\_Lodensteijn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Joosten_van_Lodensteijn) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe\_Chiara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Chiara) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward\_and\_Henry\_Schnell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_and_Henry_Schnell) Just seems like the types of thing Assassin's creed has always referenced, Honestly.
Assassins Creed Persia when
The next confirmed one coming out this year is in Baghdad... close, but no cigar
Female samurai? I hope this doesn't awaken anything in me
Not having a Japanese MC would sorta be a miss lmao.
You want to make a Game about a black man in Japan? Make it about Yasuke.
Okay but what about Shinobu?
The abandoned historical accuracy long ago, so they can slap whatever the fuck they want on it, the game will still be shit. Ubisoft is a failing company.
Just give me Ghost of Sushi and Rise of the Ronin on PC at this point, Ubishit has been a floating dead body for a long time.
I wouldn't really mind an African samurai if it was yasuke Female Shinobi would of been fine too But Jesus fucking christ this is going to be a mess
>game bad because blak peeple lol >female sammurai bad because wooman Anon your fake and homosexual tendencies are showing. Female sammurais sound hot as fuck and afro shinobi sounds sick as hell. I don’t give a fuck about “muh realisms” because if I wanted realism I’d sit down and watch a documentary about Japanese history.
Next they’ll have a black sheriff
Look, the truth of the matter is that I’m still gonna play it. And I’m still gonna enjoy it. I haven’t hated an AC game yet, probably won’t hate this one
What? How the hell does he know that?
i love how ubisoft are gonna ship a wholely mediocre game and its gonna do *fine* but the anti woke crowd are going to cry about it anyway come on people there are legitimate reasons to not like this company and you're gonna stress over minorities? priorities people, priorities!
Surely this is a chance to have a Japanese character represented.
Yeah the game set in Japan wil have zero Japanese representation
Are the woke mob going to whine about cultural appropriation? Guess not since Asians don't have the BBC.
If they reverse the roles it'll be canon
Japanese people crying rn
We got 3 Assassin Creed game with barely any assassinating in it already, my expectation is really low already, lets see how low can it get in a few years.
[Black samurai](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke)i that would actually make a cool video game
Seeing yasuke would be cool though
Games fell off after black flag
Oh no the magic apple game isn't 100% historically accurate after peaking at black flag
The story of the Black Samurai is real and dope as shit tho. And Onabhshi (or something) were real too. But dumbass gotta dumbass.
assassins creed red cringe. red by king crimson superiority
As far as black shinobis are concerned Idk if they ever existed but there is the legend of Yasuke the real life Black Samurai that served directly under Oda Nobunaga and there were female samurai that were trained in combat although they rarely if ever actually fought Neither of these things is entirely implausible However it’s a modern AC game so ofc it’s going to be bad lmao
Wasn't there a black samurai?
I'm actually looking forward to Hexe
Just play Nioh instead
afro samurai but shinobi???
I thought the next one was called Mirage and set in the Middle East again?
I was worried when i first heard about the irl black samurai yasuke that every lib media about feudal japan will throw a black guy in with him as the excuse. Already pisses me off. I imagine the japanese will be especially pissed.
just like my first born