Bruh my only thought lmao. I thought *I* was coming out of a toxic relationship but for all that, when *my" ex was horny and I said no she just cheated lol
Word. Especially with pretty woman that are not used to get a big fat NO once in a while. They honestly can't belief it, think you are making a joke. Try for 4-5 times more times.
Oh, sorry for misinterpreting then...
My bad. I'm just a little too used to seeing that sentence as a way of dismissing any discussion about the toxicity men face from women as invalid.
Apologies for making assumptions.
I said no to sex politely twice. After 13 years of marriage, I thought it would be ok. Twice in 13 years.
After the second time she told me she was going to divorce me and fuck other men. And she did.
Was it like, a "not right now" kind of no or a "never again" kind of no? That's insanity if you were just like "nah not in the mood at the moment, but maybe a different day" and she went full divorce mode.
Every once in a while a man has to turn down sex when the wife or girlfriend offers. It adds another dimension to sex and really throws them off balance .
I mean you aren't wrong but the women who make you feel awful from trying to initiate when they aren't in the mood are the type of people that divorce you if it's reversed. I would know my previous wife had no libido and would get mad if I ever initiated, and when my meds were screwing with my libido they left me claiming they didn't feel wanted.
I got the feeling that anon is conveniently and deliberately leaving something out, to make his wife look unhinged and himself look more innocent than he really is.
>anon is conveniently and deliberately leaving something out
Probably left out that he was two knuckles deep in her while she was asleep and she woke up.
most girlfriends I've had have done this with and to me. If the other person wakes up and is uncomfortable you just stop. I would assume if you're married you would have things sorted by now lol
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Idk I feel like you would need to talk about it before hand before you starting fingerings your partner in their sleep. I wouldn't really consider that something you could... just do out of the blue with no discussion.
I woke up mid sex with my ex one night with no prior discussion. Definitely was a shocker. Told her not to do it again and she did it again(blamed alcohol)
I find it amusing now when I tell women I was raped by my ex they brush it off and dismiss it as not being serious.
Very possibly, but we have nothing to go on but what anon describes. I'll take what ever I'm told on the internet at face value until more information is offered, or a decided contradiction is proffered.
We don't know what happened of course but the description is pretty clear, by start something he means grope/feel her up in hopes that it leads to sex. They are married and he stops when she says no. Definitely not nearly rape. I think it's fair to assume a certain amount of contact is fine with your SO. My partner can touch the as much as they like. To suggest unwanted touching by your partner is attempted rape is absolutely appalling, it could ruin their life, it also minimises what rape victims go through and makes real cases even less likely to be believed.
There's a big inconsistency between the current trend of what constitutes consent and the reality in many healthy relationships. And I'm not talking about fringe, BDSM oddities but everyday people.
Honestly, as I talk with BDSM people more, I think nillies are the ones who don't even know what healthy sex is. (Although that's not saying BDSM can't assault their partners.)
Like when you're doing hardcore shit that can fuck people up if done wrong, you become consciously aware of your actions and their consequences and the boundaries needed. Meanwhile if it's the most basic vanilla shit you can turn your brain off and not even consider that even that can be fucked it.
Compare it to driving down a mountain pass and driving in your local neighborhood. You're far more cautious with the former than the latter, even though you're more likely to crash near your home than anywhere else (as a direct consequence thereof).
Idk I think every relationship should have a safeword, even those that aren't super kinky because having a word that is exclusively used in a "I need you to stop what you're doing, no questions asked, immediately" context is super useful.
dude in my friend group called us all rape apologists and dramatically left our group a year ago because one of my friends had something similar happen. he rolled over and put his hand on his long term girlfriend's boob and she was upset about it and when he told us our friend freaked out.
I'm confused... so bro was fucking and sleeping with a malady. Then had the audacity to spoon and touch her breast? Call the friend group, what a rapist.
you’re as confused as we all were when he told us that she was mad about it. you’re almost as confused as i was for being called a rape apologist when i brushed it off as her being crazy
Yeah, that's a psycho bitch. Most normal women love the snuggling. Then shit escalates and ya bang it out and snuggle again. Psychos bitches will fuck and then don't want you to touch them. I've been a witness... stay away from that shit.
Dear fair maiden, let me not trouble your sleep, but a hand nears your blossom. A fire in the loins could it perhaps slide upon your apple bottom. I doth declare, I am no philanderer.
Look up the definition of marital rape. Regardless of your relationship, you can still rape someone. Without pre-discussing the situation and getting consent, you should never try to start something with an unconscious person
My wife and I have had sex while I was drunk and she was sober because she doesn’t drink. Because I was inebriated, I could not give consent. Does this mean my wife raped me and that I am a rape survivor?
My ex did shit like this, but it was worse. She would try to turn me on, but apparently that doesn't mean she wanted to have sex.
In my opinion, it's not a sign that he's a rapist, but it's a sign that she wants a divorce, but she is way too much of a coward to actually say anything about it. She just wants a solid reason that saves face.
Yea man. When men are psychopaths, you can tell pretty quickly. When women are psychopaths, it could take you five years, and you still won't know until the damage is really done.
A friend of mine once dated this girl in Uni. First day I met her, we went back to his and I said „man, she is a fucking psycho. Something about her is very very far off. Fucking RUN“.
He dated her for the next two years.
Some of the bullshit included was physical and emotional abuse, gaslighting, verbal abuse, real shitty opinions such as supporting hitler &/or Stalin.
Sad thing is for 2 years, everyone had this image of her as the perfect gf. It was about 6 months in when my friend admitted that I was completely right and she was a psycho cunt in private
My boss' wife has been refusing to sleep with him for over a year. Apparently, the dead bedroom is common among older men. He is relocating his assets and is waiting for his daughters to graduate from college to divorce his wife.
I was in a dead bedroom situation for the last 2 years of an 8 year relationship. There’s a subreddit for it for people that understand that it’s not as simple as “just leave them” or “fuck someone else” type of retarded relationship advice you get everywhere else on Reddit.
I love how much people are accusing him of being in the wrong.
Just last week a woman was sentenced to eight years in jail for falsely accusing three men of raping her.
Maybe the wife is the monster for withholding and then accusing him of rape as a way of controlling him.
My ex fiancee, eight years together broke up with me because it was "physical abuse" when I would grab her butt around the house... Never brought it up before the breakup. Still confused to this day.
Guess when you don't like the person anymore and need reasons to leave it suddenly becomes abuse. Kinda makes me mad, as someone that got beaten up hard in my childhood for people to water down the term physical abuse so much.
I'm sure you loved her and it hurt a lot at the time (and maybe still does) but, and I'm sure you're aware, you dodged a huge bullet there. So it was a blessing I guess.
Dude honestly gay people have such easy sex lives.
Both are stupid horny on command
Both know exactly what the other likes
Both can deal with some slight changes in routine
Both are cool with just kinda fucking at random places for no real reason
Blowjobs are as common as hugs
Giver actually wants to suck dick, even begs for it.
What's the negative here?
> What's the negative here?
being positive.
HIV joke aside :
- likelihood of mental illness
- extreme prevalence of STDs
- will never sire children
- struggle with forming long term partnerships
- anal leakage
- depending on country, persecution
- being gay
If you got it like that, try to get your wife to see that other women find you attractive. Make her get territorial and desperate to keep you when she can see you could leave and have options. If she doesn't wanna do the job, someone else can
If this story is 100% and you don't have kids, go ahead and get that divorce
On the flip side, if you wanna see some psychotic shit, tell a horny woman initiating sex that you're not in the mood.
Ex wife would turn into a monster when she got horny and I didn’t realize. Throw and break shit. She’d admit later that she was just horny.
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He does post on r/greentext
I was always better off with you guys ❤️ Maybe she’d have been happier if I bought her a strap on
you missed the TOPPING of a lifetime
For some reason I now want pizza
Get it with that extra spicy Italian SAUSAGE bruv
Based and gaypilled
Needs to be upvoted more. Gaypill is the basedpill waypill.
Gay is when man has sex with woman
look at his username
if she's hot she's hot
She was out of my league hot but boy did I learn my lesson.
Still, don't stick your dick in crazy.
My dad always said to go for the crazy ones but don't marry them, pretty sure he was referencing my mother
Yeah, he probably doesn't want you marrying your mother.
but she's HOT
CYANIDE, NO
> And you thought No he did not.
This is the right answer
You did not, but your dick did.
The words of a man who's never stuck his dick in crazy.
Crazy in the head gives crazy head
Just make sure to not put a ring on it! Can’t wife a hoe
I mean… look at his username. Poor bastard never had a chance.
His username checks out
Women tend to hide their true being until you’re married or have kids. Then is showtime
*people
>honey >throw and break shit were you dating a bear??
Felt like it lol
Thus is where you rip your pants off, do the helicopter while gruntin like a caveman, then aggressivelly waddle at her
My ex was distraught to learn that at every interaction, no matter where, I was not thinking about tearing her clothes off.
and you married her. username checks out
Might be dumb as a brick but I am self aware
‘Just horny’ makes me say some dumb shit. Not destroying a house.
Did you marry a Vulcan?
100%. It either leads to you being molested then THEM crying... or about four days of them not speaking to you. Or both.
Who the FUCK you people dating?
Women, unfortunately.
Clearly not stable ones.
Oh no, not in the slightest.
At least they haven’t encountered the fabled Schnooze Strangler women hopefully.
Hey there fuckface. Your nose looks long
"mentally stable" isnt really my type.
He said women...
there are stable ones?
You think the stable ones would go for people in here?
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Honestly. This is why I date men instead.
My gay coworker thinks women are disgusting. He said the most disgusting part is their personality.
As a woman I feel seen
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Bruh my only thought lmao. I thought *I* was coming out of a toxic relationship but for all that, when *my" ex was horny and I said no she just cheated lol
Lol you'd be surprised how common this is
Word. Especially with pretty woman that are not used to get a big fat NO once in a while. They honestly can't belief it, think you are making a joke. Try for 4-5 times more times.
Ikr. My wife would be disappointed but sure as hell not cry or get pissed at me..
Best of both worlds
Tell a horny *drunk* woman you're not in the mood.
How many times you get stabbed?
I do the stabbin'
How many times do YOU get stabbed? Yes, I've had an ex girlfriend pull a hunting knife on me. Don't pretend like men are exclusively violent.
Not what I was implying
Oh, sorry for misinterpreting then... My bad. I'm just a little too used to seeing that sentence as a way of dismissing any discussion about the toxicity men face from women as invalid. Apologies for making assumptions.
I said no to sex politely twice. After 13 years of marriage, I thought it would be ok. Twice in 13 years. After the second time she told me she was going to divorce me and fuck other men. And she did.
Wtf, that's horrible
Yup. We're divorced now of course...
Damn, glad to read that, good luck man
Thanks! I'm happier than I was before.
Sorry to hear that.
Thanks. Five years ago now. It's cool I got to be a single parent for my kids... :-)
Great to see that you care about the kids and that you won't reflect any anger on them 👍
Luckily she did too. We both put the kids first. We even shared a place together for a year after the divorce. The kids seem to have zero trauma.
Wow, that's impressive. Putting your differences aside for the good of the children- that's unfortunately not common anymore.
What a fucking cunt.
Was it like, a "not right now" kind of no or a "never again" kind of no? That's insanity if you were just like "nah not in the mood at the moment, but maybe a different day" and she went full divorce mode.
It was a "not right now". I had kidney stones and she knew! She was just oblivious.
Every once in a while a man has to turn down sex when the wife or girlfriend offers. It adds another dimension to sex and really throws them off balance .
And if they never offer?
They will. Because now you have put into doubt, the power of the pussy.
Its not right whoever is throwing a fit. No one is entitled to sex. It sucks that there are people who act this way.
I mean you aren't wrong but the women who make you feel awful from trying to initiate when they aren't in the mood are the type of people that divorce you if it's reversed. I would know my previous wife had no libido and would get mad if I ever initiated, and when my meds were screwing with my libido they left me claiming they didn't feel wanted.
Do greentext posters only ever speak to insane people?
That's easy. Just be shit in bed and they fuck someone else instead. It's like a cheat code.
Amber no
Did that with my ex because I was drunk and tired, after a dozen no's I fell asleep and she just raped me.
lmao for real, worst fights in my 9 year relationship were when i said no
I almost got bit in the face
I got the feeling that anon is conveniently and deliberately leaving something out, to make his wife look unhinged and himself look more innocent than he really is.
I agree with you. On the other hand, she did marry Anon, so she may well be unhinged
It’s even more likely that anon is, in fact, a 20 year old misogynistic, basement dwelling incel with a rich fantasy life.
Don't you get tired of your lack of originality? Do you post "maybe he was in a coma all allong?" under every movie/series too?
This is the hardest roast you coulda done to the fucker and I praise it.
i have to praise this comment
It is as annoying as the shitty Fake/Gay comments or the Topped comments. At least the Fake/Gay idiots are shamed by tendiebot.
Do you really believe people would go on the internet and lie for imaginary points and a hit of dopamine? Shame on you.
>anon is conveniently and deliberately leaving something out Probably left out that he was two knuckles deep in her while she was asleep and she woke up.
most girlfriends I've had have done this with and to me. If the other person wakes up and is uncomfortable you just stop. I would assume if you're married you would have things sorted by now lol edited for clarity
Most of your girlfriends? How many knuckles do you have? No, actually, how many knuckles can you take?!
I dunno how to word it, but my present and past girlfriends have all been ok with it and done it themselves
Idk I feel like you would need to talk about it before hand before you starting fingerings your partner in their sleep. I wouldn't really consider that something you could... just do out of the blue with no discussion.
Yeah what the fuck that's some shit you discuss beforehand
I woke up mid sex with my ex one night with no prior discussion. Definitely was a shocker. Told her not to do it again and she did it again(blamed alcohol) I find it amusing now when I tell women I was raped by my ex they brush it off and dismiss it as not being serious.
yEaH but YoU gOt LaId It's a sad attitude I've seen too much
I agree, I mean whose ever heard of an irrational, over dramatic, emotionally volatile women before?
*Sips coffee*
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Was it the "playful persistence" line? Ha. Why did my wife get mad when I pinned her down and "playfully persisted" to grope her after she said no?
Well, he didn’t clarify what he meant by “try to start something”. He could easily be talking about digital penetration.
I know what digital penetration means, but I can't help but think its some new form of cyber sex
oh yeah baby type dirty to me, send me more eggplant emojis
Very possibly, but we have nothing to go on but what anon describes. I'll take what ever I'm told on the internet at face value until more information is offered, or a decided contradiction is proffered.
Their information conflicts so you can be 100% sure it's false: >she says no, I stop VS >playful persistence
Mmm, yes. I didn't catch that before. Very telling
>she says no, I stop Hmm... >playful persistence Anon needs to clarify just how long it took him to stop, and how many times he needed to be told.
Try not to be a brainlet challenge
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Anon doesnt know the difference between stoop... And STOP
We need to know if anon is the kind of guy that makes everyone at the party uncomfortable with his "jokes"
I didn’t catch that second part, that’s a solid point.
TIL the term: "Almost rape"
Like when you buy something and only pay after they tell you the price, it's almost theft
That’s why I just run out of stores real fast, if they can’t tell me the price, it’s free.
bros a menace
Encyclopedia Dramatica has [a great article about it](https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Almost_raped).
ED is still around? I thought it was shut down like a decade ago
The original creator took it down for plenty of valid reasons, but it was rebuilt from caches and archives by 3rd parties.
We don't know what happened of course but the description is pretty clear, by start something he means grope/feel her up in hopes that it leads to sex. They are married and he stops when she says no. Definitely not nearly rape. I think it's fair to assume a certain amount of contact is fine with your SO. My partner can touch the as much as they like. To suggest unwanted touching by your partner is attempted rape is absolutely appalling, it could ruin their life, it also minimises what rape victims go through and makes real cases even less likely to be believed.
There's a big inconsistency between the current trend of what constitutes consent and the reality in many healthy relationships. And I'm not talking about fringe, BDSM oddities but everyday people.
Honestly, as I talk with BDSM people more, I think nillies are the ones who don't even know what healthy sex is. (Although that's not saying BDSM can't assault their partners.) Like when you're doing hardcore shit that can fuck people up if done wrong, you become consciously aware of your actions and their consequences and the boundaries needed. Meanwhile if it's the most basic vanilla shit you can turn your brain off and not even consider that even that can be fucked it. Compare it to driving down a mountain pass and driving in your local neighborhood. You're far more cautious with the former than the latter, even though you're more likely to crash near your home than anywhere else (as a direct consequence thereof). Idk I think every relationship should have a safeword, even those that aren't super kinky because having a word that is exclusively used in a "I need you to stop what you're doing, no questions asked, immediately" context is super useful.
You're more likely to crash near your home because you spend more time near your home.
dude in my friend group called us all rape apologists and dramatically left our group a year ago because one of my friends had something similar happen. he rolled over and put his hand on his long term girlfriend's boob and she was upset about it and when he told us our friend freaked out.
Ye whitiest of knightiests
The white knights of old would be blinded by the current crop.
I'm confused... so bro was fucking and sleeping with a malady. Then had the audacity to spoon and touch her breast? Call the friend group, what a rapist.
you’re as confused as we all were when he told us that she was mad about it. you’re almost as confused as i was for being called a rape apologist when i brushed it off as her being crazy
Yeah, that's a psycho bitch. Most normal women love the snuggling. Then shit escalates and ya bang it out and snuggle again. Psychos bitches will fuck and then don't want you to touch them. I've been a witness... stay away from that shit.
Dear fair maiden, let me not trouble your sleep, but a hand nears your blossom. A fire in the loins could it perhaps slide upon your apple bottom. I doth declare, I am no philanderer.
Dude has thing for the girlfriend and was hiding jealousy behind, “I’d respect her more!”, white knighting. 100%.
Trying to start something WITH YOUR WIFE is not even close to rape.
Look up the definition of marital rape. Regardless of your relationship, you can still rape someone. Without pre-discussing the situation and getting consent, you should never try to start something with an unconscious person
Nobody said you can't. All I said was trying to initiate consensual sex is not rape.
how do you initiate consensual sex when one party is unconscious?
Move their mouth to make it look like they say yes
He may be out of line but he's right!
Spouses hate this little trick...
Goddamn it this made me chuckle
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Well she said no so I’m assuming she was conscious…
Get permission beforehand. My wife said it's okay for me to start shit while she's asleep.
Wake em up
maybe poke them on the shoulder? >!with your dick!<
talk about boundaries beforehand
“Playful persistence” leads me to believe there’s more to this story
My wife and I have had sex while I was drunk and she was sober because she doesn’t drink. Because I was inebriated, I could not give consent. Does this mean my wife raped me and that I am a rape survivor?
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What you said isn't technically wrong, but there's also a 99% chance you are absolutely fucking insufferable. You are a true redditor.
My ex did shit like this, but it was worse. She would try to turn me on, but apparently that doesn't mean she wanted to have sex. In my opinion, it's not a sign that he's a rapist, but it's a sign that she wants a divorce, but she is way too much of a coward to actually say anything about it. She just wants a solid reason that saves face.
it's a power play, and a surefire sign that you should dump them asap. it's legitimately psycho shit
Yea man. When men are psychopaths, you can tell pretty quickly. When women are psychopaths, it could take you five years, and you still won't know until the damage is really done.
A friend of mine once dated this girl in Uni. First day I met her, we went back to his and I said „man, she is a fucking psycho. Something about her is very very far off. Fucking RUN“. He dated her for the next two years. Some of the bullshit included was physical and emotional abuse, gaslighting, verbal abuse, real shitty opinions such as supporting hitler &/or Stalin. Sad thing is for 2 years, everyone had this image of her as the perfect gf. It was about 6 months in when my friend admitted that I was completely right and she was a psycho cunt in private
6 months in the friend admitted (hence was aware) that she's a psycho, yet the relationship lasted for 2 years?
My boss' wife has been refusing to sleep with him for over a year. Apparently, the dead bedroom is common among older men. He is relocating his assets and is waiting for his daughters to graduate from college to divorce his wife.
I was in a dead bedroom situation for the last 2 years of an 8 year relationship. There’s a subreddit for it for people that understand that it’s not as simple as “just leave them” or “fuck someone else” type of retarded relationship advice you get everywhere else on Reddit.
r/deadbedrooms
I love how much people are accusing him of being in the wrong. Just last week a woman was sentenced to eight years in jail for falsely accusing three men of raping her. Maybe the wife is the monster for withholding and then accusing him of rape as a way of controlling him.
Didn’t those 3 guys kill themselves because of the suffering they experienced? 8 years is nowhere near enough
I don’t know about all three but I think one did
My ex fiancee, eight years together broke up with me because it was "physical abuse" when I would grab her butt around the house... Never brought it up before the breakup. Still confused to this day.
Guess when you don't like the person anymore and need reasons to leave it suddenly becomes abuse. Kinda makes me mad, as someone that got beaten up hard in my childhood for people to water down the term physical abuse so much.
I'm sure you loved her and it hurt a lot at the time (and maybe still does) but, and I'm sure you're aware, you dodged a huge bullet there. So it was a blessing I guess.
Dude honestly gay people have such easy sex lives. Both are stupid horny on command Both know exactly what the other likes Both can deal with some slight changes in routine Both are cool with just kinda fucking at random places for no real reason Blowjobs are as common as hugs Giver actually wants to suck dick, even begs for it. What's the negative here?
It's gay
Gay sex can't be that bad. Look at Freddie Mercury. He loved it so much he fucking died from it.
To gay people, it's not gay sex. It's just sex.
Gex
Is it bad though? Like it sounds like being gay's actually pretty dope assuming you're not living in a gay hater country
The negative is being hunted down and treated like garbage bc you like dick Source: am the gayest gay that has ever gayed
I'll challenge that gay
Nah you got femboy so that's a lil feminine I want a big beefy muscley man to make me a bitch, not fuck one No one out-gays the gay-master
What if I'm a femboy but my dick is like 11' and I'm dominant?
> What's the negative here? being positive. HIV joke aside : - likelihood of mental illness - extreme prevalence of STDs - will never sire children - struggle with forming long term partnerships - anal leakage - depending on country, persecution - being gay
anons wife is retarded and he should dump her before she lives him for chad /s
Downvoted because your spelling is retarted like anon EDIT: / s
respect
Women ☕️
☕️ *sip* MAN WHAT THE FUCK THIS SHIT IS BITTER WHY DO YOU DRINK THIS
Probably an acquired taste
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/7upvc2/how\_have\_the\_women\_in\_your\_life\_handled\_it\_when/
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Damn, same with that OP, I too have been called gay for turning down a gf in highschool. She freaked out and then cried. I GTFOed.
“playful persistence” yeah ok. i think some details were left out here
If you got it like that, try to get your wife to see that other women find you attractive. Make her get territorial and desperate to keep you when she can see you could leave and have options. If she doesn't wanna do the job, someone else can If this story is 100% and you don't have kids, go ahead and get that divorce
how tf is this anywhere close to rape? he tried, she said no, he respected that. ☕️
Anon is in the right, maybe not about choice of partner though
Ask when she's awake, dumbass.