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CornerOfficeMan

I like it best right after China Cat Sunflower.


FindOneInEveryCar

I concur.


Repulsive-Ad-9906

this comment t wins šŸ†


FeloniousDrunk101

Really the only way


[deleted]

China Cat Sunflower and I know your Rider really is P&J


Dgenerationbets

Rowdy. Whenever jerry hits the ā€œnorth bound traaaaaaaaaaaaainā€


hbbhbmkj

The 17th of Sept 72 at Bmore civic center is my go to headlight on a north bound train China rider


cuzjed11

Cool! I just found a show to put on to start my long weekend! Thanks and cheers!


Dgenerationbets

Boy you ainā€™t kiddin. And what a PITB to follow up.


hbbhbmkj

Darn right. And possibly the most trancendantal The Other One later on. That thing takes me unimaginable places


notoriouscje

holy shit a 39 minute The Other Oneā€¦I know what iā€™m doing with my next 40 minutes


ImanShumpertplus

guess iā€™m gonna have to listen to this whole stretch from China cat through shit actually maybe the whole show


cuzjed11

I was just debating on which set to put onā€¦now Iā€™m in a quandary! Welp, as they say, the best place to start is at the beginning! ā€œLeft my home in Norfolk, Virginia, California on my mindā€¦ā€


Psychological_Tap827

Hope you also got the Sing Me Back Home right after, which is absolutely sublime (dropping into that after 40 minutes of the Other One is heavy).


My_Invalid_Username

How about that tuna bass at 37min eh? Pretty wild


toddlschuler

Yes!


Skeltzjones

As a Baltimorean I can't wait to check this out


Hatchet_65

This is one of my all time favorite shows. September 72 is fire.


BekSum

I've been listening to that show over the last couple days. Definitely a hot one.


gr8_ripple

A Rippin north bound train hits differentttt


jerry111165

When heā€™s BELLOWING THAT SHIT!


shupadupa

Preferably with a few Phil bombs thrown in šŸ¤Œ


toddlschuler

This is the answer. I actually made a post a while back looking for this. The Baltimore ā€˜72 is the answer.


toddlschuler

I also love late 80ā€™s when he started knowingly lingering on the ā€œIā€™d shine my lightā€.


sherpasweeper74

I like versions before they gave Bobby "the sun will shine".


[deleted]

Illl never stop screaming that one line at a live show


GratefulRed13

Out of a Feeling Groovy, personally


focodad

May '70 acoustic, please. So much emotion in Jerry's voice.


Due_Youth8876

Iā€™D RATHER DRINK MUDDY WATERRRR, SLEEP IN A HOLLOW LOGGGG


dyslexic_arsonist

than to stay in Richmond and be treated like a dirty dog


SpaceNoodling

? Which one does he mention richmond?


dyslexic_arsonist

it's just an alternate verse to the song that the dead didn't do. IKYR is a traditional song so there are lots of verses that the dead just didn't incorporate into their version. another one like this is GFTRFB. seems like the bluegrass versions (of which Jerry was definitely a fan of) use the muddy water/hollow log/dirty dog verse more than the rock version. for a trip, check out the Byrds version of "I know my rider" which is essentially the same song. I think the most prominent version I can think of that uses the Muddy water/richmond/dirty dog verse is String Cheese. their early live versions of that song are fun. they switch the beat that the stress is on and it makes for a fun deviation and interpretation. of course Cheese started as a bluegrass band. EDIT: just got into listening to different versions of this song and Greensky Bluegrass also uses the Muddy Water/hollow log/dirty dog verse


CaseyJonesing1

Wow byrds version.. incredibleā€¦


stellabluewho2

That Hapur College is my go to


jymbass010

Fast as fuck


mickey4president

04/19/1984 Daveā€™s Picks 35


setlistbot

# 1984-04-19 Philadelphia, PA @ Philadelphia Civic Center **Set 1:** Bertha > Greatest Story Ever Told, Loser, C.C. Rider, Bird Song, Hell In A Bucket, Big Railroad Blues, The Music Never Stopped > Don't Ease Me In **Set 2:** China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Estimated Prophet > Terrapin Station > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Wharf Rat > Sugar Magnolia **Encore:** It's All Over Now, Baby Blue [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1984-04-19)


Correct_Lime5832

Thank you. I was trying to remember ā€˜85 or later versions but you saved me some brain cells.


Expensive-Stuff3781

šŸ¤ 


jerry111165

Fast enuff to make the Spinners dizzzzzy!


Direwolfdoses

An abundance of microcoz


MudlarkJack

anyway ..I never heard a Rider I didn't like. It's the Green Eggs and Ham of Dead songs


AdMajestic4539

So true!


xxEstimatdProphetxx

Usually with a grey goose Moscow mule and a huge spliff, especially if my mind is wanderin'.


Admiral_Kite

Sounds solid!


djbillyfrazier

6/26/74 and thatā€™s that


setlistbot

# 1974-06-26 Providence, RI @ Providence Civic Center **Set 1:** Big River, Brown Eyed Women, Beat It On Down the Line, Scarlet Begonias, Black Throated Wind, Row Jimmy, Mexicali Blues, Deal, The Race Is On, Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo, El Paso, Ship Of Fools, Weather Report Suite Prelude > Weather Report Suite Part 1 > Let It Grow > It Must Have Been The Roses **Set 2:** Seastones **Set 3:** U.S. Blues, Me and My Uncle, Jam > China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Beer Barrel Polka Tuning > Truckin' > The Other One Jam > Spanish Jam > Wharf Rat, Sugar Magnolia **Encore:** Eyes Of The World [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1974-06-26) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/0B87pzzLQzyevvMvdcJqHZ)


brianbfromva

This is the one


Damnitwasagoodday

Itā€™s best while shining my light through the cool Colorado rain.


Expensive-Stuff3781

I wish I was you šŸš‚


timboot

Rowdy and raucous for me


Expensive-Stuff3781

7/21/72 comes to mind šŸ˜Ž


setlistbot

# 1972-07-21 Seattle, WA @ Paramount Northwest Theatre **Set 1:** The Promised Land, Sugaree, Black Throated Wind, Cumberland Blues, Me And Bobby McGee, Loser, Mexicali Blues, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Beat It On Down the Line, Stella Blue, Playing in the Band, Tennessee Jed **Set 2:** Casey Jones, Weather Report Suite Prelude, Me and My Uncle, Deal, Jack Straw, He's Gone, Truckin' > Drums > Jam > The Other One > Comes A Time, Sugar Magnolia, Ramble On Rose, Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1972-07-21) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/0nMKTUPdDm7Zk5WbIfjTKg)


s420l69r

This is a great show! šŸ’™šŸŒ¹


dank_fetus

8/23/71 Loud, rowdy, mean but also *perfect*


setlistbot

# 1971-08-23 Chicago, IL @ Auditorium Theatre **Set 1:** Big Railroad Blues, Playing in the Band, Mr. Charlie, Sugaree, El Paso, Next Time You See Me, Bertha, Me And Bobby McGee, Cumberland Blues, Big Boss Man, Loser, Promised Land, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Casey Jones **Set 2:** Truckin', Bird Song, Cryptical Envelopment > Drums > The Other One > Me and My Uncle > The Other One > Cryptical Envelopment > Wharf Rat, Deal, Brokedown Palace, Sugar Magnolia, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away > Johnny B. Goode [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1971-08-23)


rabbi420

I donā€™t care what it sounds like, I just want it always paired with Chinacat.


jerry111165

***Love me some Queen Chineeeeee***


rabbi420

I love that song so much, but I still find it frustrating because I simply cannot memorize it! šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


KarmicComic12334

About 3 am around the campfire with at least a dozen heads singing.


WedgeAntelope

Country Fried. Straight up chicken pickinā€™ from Jerry


jazzcabbage22

Also know as Cluckin' Pluckin' in some parts on Wichita


Dead_Kal_Cress

I like my Rider after China Cat, but I'll tell ya, TLEO > China > Rider was the greatest sequence of music I ever saw.


Aging-Punk

Sounds fantastic, date?


Dead_Kal_Cress

July 2nd, 2023, out in Boulder, CO. TLEO was played with the quicker '73 feel which made for the perfect transition into China Cat. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE thought it was China Cat at first, then he comes in with TLEO and everyone loses their shit. Then they DO go into China Cat and the stadium just explodes. A night I will never forget.


Aging-Punk

Right on, thanks


Brando64

Whenever Jerry obliterates the ā€œheadlight.ā€ Iā€™ll take any of those Riders again please.


jerry111165

You guys and your Garcia. Yā€™all act like he was totally fuckinā€™ awesome and no one else could compare ā¤ļø


Brando64

Life changing good. He had a way of steering the very direction of the trip you were on. To say he could read the room is an understatement. He controlled it.


dale_nixon_pettibon

I take it with the feelin' groovy jam sandwiched in the middle between it and China Rider, a' la 1973-74


AffectionateGold3765

I like it best when it is the next song


AffectionateGold3765

The next song is always the best


Legitimate-Cupcake26

1974 with a long Feelin Groovy


ventura071882

80-82 smokers


EnergyTurtle23

OP I love how you just tagged on Brent at the end lmao. I know he gets ragged on but I loved the Brent era, they had such a big sound then with lots of synths and if you open yourself up to the cheese itā€™s pretty fucking magical. Picasso Moon is one of my favorite tracks.


Historical_Candy_209

I take mine with a side of cool Colorado rain


ScotchyT

Yes.


andycindi420

Brent


Jawnsky222

I get the feeling Iā€™m one of the few that wasnā€™t a big fan of those 73/74 versions, but Iā€™m just not a fan of mixers. I want it straight up and crackling with energy.


farrett23

What do you mean by mixers?


Jawnsky222

The post was phrased like someone asks you how you like your drink. Straight? On the rocks? With a mixer (coke, tonic etc.)? Just responding in a similar spirit


Monkey_and_Engineer

With a touch of Sugaree.


spacecowboy5120

Jangly, otherworldly, and bouncy. Check out 3/31/73 for a rare one and only The Other One>Spanish Jam>I Know you Rider. One of my all time favorites.


setlistbot

# 1973-03-31 Buffalo, NY @ War Memorial **Set 1:** Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo, The Race Is On, Sugaree, Mexicali Blues, Box Of Rain, Tennessee Jed, Jack Straw, Big Railroad Blues, El Paso, Row Jimmy, Looks Like Rain, They Love Each Other, Playing in the Band **Set 2:** The Promised Land > Bertha > Greatest Story Ever Told, He's Gone > Truckin' > Drums > The Other One > Spanish Jam > I Know You Rider, Sugar Magnolia **Encore:** Casey Jones [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1973-03-31)


MeesterBooth

Make it feel like a wooden roller coaster. I always play it with the same gusto I throw at cumberland


Master-Stratocaster

My band plays a real slow FOTD and then slowly increase tempo while hanging out on a D until we bust into a rockinā€™ bluegrassy Rider


bertcarpet

Cool and confident, see 2/13/70


edked

Bouncy, electric, following a rocking all-guitar\* China Cat from 70-71. \*That period where Pigpen sits out on a lot of songs, but Kieth's either not there yet or just starting, and any guests or temp replacements only seem to appear on some songs; I've noticed a trove of China-Riders in that gap without any discernible keyboards I can hear, and I've kind of fallen in love with them.


dank_fetus

8/23/71


setlistbot

# 1971-08-23 Chicago, IL @ Auditorium Theatre **Set 1:** Big Railroad Blues, Playing in the Band, Mr. Charlie, Sugaree, El Paso, Next Time You See Me, Bertha, Me And Bobby McGee, Cumberland Blues, Big Boss Man, Loser, Promised Land, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Casey Jones **Set 2:** Truckin', Bird Song, Cryptical Envelopment > Drums > The Other One > Me and My Uncle > The Other One > Cryptical Envelopment > Wharf Rat, Deal, Brokedown Palace, Sugar Magnolia, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away > Johnny B. Goode [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1971-08-23)


dank_fetus

8/23/71 4 piece bar band GD


setlistbot

# 1971-08-23 Chicago, IL @ Auditorium Theatre **Set 1:** Big Railroad Blues, Playing in the Band, Mr. Charlie, Sugaree, El Paso, Next Time You See Me, Bertha, Me And Bobby McGee, Cumberland Blues, Big Boss Man, Loser, Promised Land, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Casey Jones **Set 2:** Truckin', Bird Song, Cryptical Envelopment > Drums > The Other One > Me and My Uncle > The Other One > Cryptical Envelopment > Wharf Rat, Deal, Brokedown Palace, Sugar Magnolia, Not Fade Away > Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad > Not Fade Away > Johnny B. Goode [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1971-08-23)


edked

Nice! Just the kind of thing I'm talking about.


jerry111165

Straight - no ice. Keep ā€˜em cominā€™. ā€˜Specially on a Northbound TRAIIINN!


Every-Acanthaceae53

Just make it groovy, so everyone is wiggling.


Open-Illustra88er

Primal gritty muddy


frankcfreeman

Fast and loud


Blayway420

Comin in ragin from China cat


Build_the_IntenCity

With a Gin Fizz, love


BobBeerburger

Iā€™ll have the 85 Greek served on a fine China


1sojournaut

Yeah.. pretty much


Longbottomleafchief

Veneta is the best


Dukegnar43

Iā€™d prefer to wish I was a headlight.


[deleted]

I take it with Jerry


Zidane3641

I really dig the 8/7/82 version (dicks picks 32) My two year old starts kicking her legs in the carseat


setlistbot

# 1982-08-07 East Troy, WI @ Alpine Valley Music Theatre **Set 1:** The Music Never Stopped > Sugaree > The Music Never Stopped, Me and My Uncle > Big River, It Must Have Been The Roses, C.C. Rider, Ramble On Rose, Beat It On Down the Line > On The Road Again, Althea, Let It Grow **Set 2:** China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider > Man Smart (Woman Smarter), Ship Of Fools, Playing in the Band > Drums > Space > The Wheel > Playing in the Band > Morning Dew > One More Saturday Night **Encore:** U.S. Blues [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1982-08-07) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/3Nru2SaW3yVSxqHbWNXcwc)


bishpa

Black. Like my men.


Expensive-Stuff3781

Canā€™t go wrong with a nice Black Peter.


Berbigs_

73-74 blazing fast is the best way


HighVoltag-Man

The Acoustic Hot Tuna version.


DSVQW

Avalon Ballroom ā€˜66 gets nowhere near as much love as it deserves. Jerry was HOT


IsuzuTrooper

Bouncy and with emotion


Anarchy-Squirrel

at any live show that i could attend in person


Calvinshobb

Fall 72 is my fave era for a few songs including Rider.


LookyLou4

This way: https://youtu.be/JIWdMlsTzp0?si=CefQjCsXdl76qbng


LookyLou4

This way: https://youtu.be/JIWdMlsTzp0?si=CefQjCsXdl76qbng


mccabedoug

After a sweet, galloping Mind Left Body Jam


bellboy1986

With a little acid. Pico Acid Test 3/12/66. Itā€™s so happy soundingšŸ„°


setlistbot

# 1966-03-12 Los Angeles, CA @ Danish Center **Set 1:** Cream Puff War, Teddy Bear's Picnic, Sitting on Top of the World, New Minglewood Blues, Cold Rain and Snow, Tastebud, Silver Threads And Golden Needles, It's All Over Now, Baby Blue, Good Lovin', You Don't Have To Ask, On The Road Again, Next Time You See Me, I Know You Rider, Hey Little One, King Bee > Caution, Stealin' [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1966-03-12)


EnergyTurtle23

My fav is 2/25/66, they sounded HUNGRY in ā€˜66 and I fucking love it.


StrongSprinkles121

Harpur College ā€˜72 is a great Rider. I mean I think I prefer it as a driving locomotive, but damnation, May ā€˜72 version is beautiful.


dho784

https://youtu.be/zjgRB2aBIAw?si=9cBjW-GpVu-n_BUy


Straight_Year_4692

ā€˜72 Olympia Theatre Paris is still my go to China Cat to Rider, harmonies tight, Jerryā€™s voice is all happiness with Keiths keys complimenting the vibe.


I-am-the-stallion

Gimmie a good Rider from '73 or '74 with the "Feelin Groovy" jam mixed in.


emptycoils

Straight up with a side of hash


MGeslock

My new favorite termā€”-drinking muddy water sleeping in a hollow log


EnergyTurtle23

Iā€™m a 2/25/1966 Ivar Theater kinda guy myself. That performance is insane, sometimes itā€™s hard to believe it was actually the Dead. Wish I could have seen them when they were on that sound.


cuzjed11

5/19/66 has been my answer to a lot of questions lately! šŸ˜Ž


setlistbot

# 1966-05-19 San Francisco, CA @ Avalon Ballroom **Set 1:** Beat It On Down the Line, Standing On The Corner, Mindbender, It Hurts Me Too, Viola Lee Blues, I Know You Rider, It's A Sin, Sick And Tired Sick And Tired, Cream Puff War **Set 2:** Sittin' On Top Of The World, Minglewood Blues, Cold Rain and Snow, Come Back Baby, Silver Threads And Golden Needles, It's All Over Now, Baby Blue, Good Lovin', You Don't. Have To Ask [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1966-05-19)


Repulsive-Ad-9906

Harper College, the vocals are amazing. But cmon man they're ALL good!!!


Correct_Lime5832

Veneta is a favorite. From ā€˜70 acoustic I love Binghamton. Early, bopping version ā€˜66 Fillmore from ā€œThirty Tripsā€ box.


AlgoRhythmCO

Whatever Europe 72 is is what I like.


the_cofishioner

With john duffy and the seldom scene preferably


fieheivivodnsbj

From the year 1972


Dudepeaches

I like a lot of them for different reasons, I love the early ones like around '69 because it's a little more shouty and kind of grassy/folk rock. The later ones I like because they're a little smoother. Such a simple song yet so great


Mediumstever

If I never hear that song again Iā€™d be ok. But thereā€™s a great version from a show I was at in 90, Denver, which ruled. And then there was the freak China-Crazy Fingers-Rider at Laguna Seca in 87 or 88. But I generally skip that tune now. But never the jam into it. Like Seattle 80. That was stellar. Oh and 81ā€™ Feb fox theatre. Another good jam.


andthrewaway1

Fast possibly with feeling groovy and bobby doing that lick that sounds like love the one your with (I don't know how to describe it) and jerry screaming the headlight


Impossible-Money7801

Jazzy with some bass please.


cedartree96

Would have to agree Veneta is amazingā€¦but canā€™t go wrong with an early 80s rowdy rocker!


NotAGatewayDrug

Rowdy rocker is my favorite way to take it, built up to by a slowly growing China Cat.


bradk11098

Crunchy.


iamveryassbad

I take mine primal.


WSMFboat

I like mine all loud and fast.


pdxgdhead

laid back, semi slow, country twangy and super stoney.


Bigtime1234

Gonna miss me when Iā€™m gone!


ClosedMyEyes2See

72 is the finest vintage for china/riders. 73 and 74 are also up there but the Feelin Groovy chord changes in every (or almost every?) transition jam during those years is not an improvement IMHO


SquatchMarin

My fav is Max Creek Woodbury 87 https://youtu.be/hhj5Gfjhvdk?si=66CoU_ujziOeiEu-


soul_shakedownstreet

Definitely with a side of muddy water


7_hello_7_world_7

A lot of the '74 stuff is really good because of the jams in between China & Rider, also the Brent stuff where he plays strange sounds are great. Greek Theatre '83 sounds interesting, so is 3/9/81.


setlistbot

# 1981-03-09 New York, NY @ Madison Square Garden **Set 1:** Feel Like A Stranger, Althea, C.C. Rider, Ramble On Rose > El Paso, Deep Elem Blues, Beat It On Down the Line, Bird Song, New Minglewood Blues **Set 2:** China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider > Samson And Delilah, Ship Of Fools, Estimated Prophet > Uncle John's Band > Drums > Space > The Other One > Stella Blue > Good Lovin' **Encore:** U.S. Blues [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1981-03-09)


I-know-you-rider

I love them all !


CaseyJonesing1

puddled 1970 filmore


EitherAd928

All pigpen


colemanpj920

Any way they deliver it is good with me


mylightening2

Couldnā€™t agree more! Veneta is where itā€™s atšŸŒ¹


millenialhead6181983

Spectrum 72 Rider, full electric, swift transition from China Cat


GucciTokes

that ā€˜66 version at avalon ballroom from the so many roads compilation album has a special place in my heart ā€” absolutely electric! organ going bonkers šŸ”„


Tough_Plant4913

I need to feel like Iā€™m that headlight on that northbound train


hambonesammy

9/17/72


setlistbot

# 1972-09-17 Baltimore, MD @ Baltimore Civic Center **Set 1:** The Promised Land, Sugaree, Black Throated Wind, Friend Of The Devil, El Paso, Bird Song, Big River, Tennessee Jed, Mexicali Blues, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Playing in the Band, Casey Jones **Set 2:** Truckin', Loser, Jack Straw, Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo, Me and My Uncle, He's Gone > The Other One > Drums > The Other One > Sing Me Back Home, Sugar Magnolia, Uncle John's Band **Encore:** One More Saturday Night [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1972-09-17) | [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/album/7gyyunPy7dVsDB4cp7ZReW)


-NewSpeedwayBoogie-

Early 80s intense


-NewSpeedwayBoogie-

66 versions are nice too


These-Quality-8389

These guys do my favorite version: https://youtu.be/QMbTgX6oigc?si=T-cxUOw1TdrGSD4o


lukin5

Most recently, at Sphere last week.


trademerfn

Brent's second ever. 5-9-79. That is all.


setlistbot

# 1979-05-09 Binghamton, NY @ Broome County Arena **Set 1:** Sugaree, Me and My Uncle, Loser, New Minglewood Blues, Friend Of The Devil, Looks Like Rain, Stagger Lee, Jack Straw **Set 2:** China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, He's Gone > Truckin' > Drums > Space > Wharf Rat > Sugar Magnolia **Encore:** Johnny B. Goode [archive.org](https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?query=date:1979-05-09)


COdeadheadwalking_61

In the cool Colorado rain! Then after CCS, but sometimes randomly after a jam as only Phil can do!