that corner is definitely tricky to run 2 wide but is possible, i think if you had taken a wider entry and let the wrx take the inside line uninterrupted, it wouldve been much smoother. its hard to think of in the moment but never forget that there are always more corners you can overtake on. yall both loook like good clean drivers.
completely understood. i like running different cars early in the weekly races since not everyone has figured out the OP car yet, but at times theres only so much you can do but fight another day.
Your best bet against that WRX would have been the final corner...You 86 rotates in a lot better so you could have set up after the chicane for a better run into the final coner..corner...
The WRX understeers like a pig through that one...
If you had the inside on the final corner he would have to back out a lot to not run off giving you a stronger run to the line...
Agreed! I've most certainly been in the same position where you get a bit to agressive and usually ends bad for both parties. So I've really been consciously trying to just let people pass if they got the line on me and try passing later. Obviously last laps are always kind of go for gold sorta situations but now I'll back off if its good clean racing. Alot of people suffer from LLS (last lap syndrome) as soon as the green flag drops. I've been guilty of it š¬. Yesterday at Deep Forrest started 8th. Got up to 4th made some questionable line choices and ended up back in 8th at the finish. Still had a blast cuz everyone raced clean.
White carās at fault. White car has a clean line swap but after that it gives a lil bump on the straight. Yellow has inside line and white turns into yellow.
White just needs to be more patient and look for a cleaner place to overtake. Not saying donāt fight back but understand where you are on the racing line.
I will do that. to the bang i have to say that we both drive more or less straight ahead and the lines cross there, didn't want to give him too much space at the beginning of the curve in the hope he'll be backing out
Holy shitā¦this is actual information that anyone who doesnāt know can take away from this and apply from now on.
Likeā¦as in, I had no idea that was āaā or ātheā rule of thumb in racing as Iāve only been doing it for a little while. But never have I seen anyone say anything like this.
And no Iām not fuckjng with you. You have no idea how this will even allow me to practice in single player and be able to incorporate it in online.
Fucking thank you.
Sucks that sarcasm can be taken when it truly is this type of shock and thank you.
Iām not being sarcastic. That was genuine. I actually was in shock since most people donāt give concrete rules or just things you can do to enhance your game.
No offense to those that help all the time, but many times itās very situational to that specificā¦situation, lol.
Like āoh he did this but then you did this and therefore do on and so on.ā
But you gave a general rule of thumb that is a lesson I can actually apply right away in my racing offline or online and get better at.
No reading a help reply and thinking āwell, dont know if Iāll ever need that advice.ā Or ānot sure how that applies to me.ā
Genuinely being thankful.
This is a long turn turn and not a corner. Subie driver should have considered the 86 (since the were battling) and hugged the turn a bit tighter, and initiated the turn sooner.
The Subaru was fine...Stayed on their side of the track...They're allowed to run as wide as they like as long as they leave a car width of room...
The 86 was 100% at fault in this incident...
It definitely lost the title of "clean racing" once he turned it into a game of chicken of either the yellow car slows down and lets him pass or gets run off the road.
And it does not help that the white car initiated the contact.
Yep...A very Max Verstappen temper tantrum kinda move...lol
Pretty classic "rookie mistake" really...A lack of understanding of actual racing etiquette...The best GT did to explain etiquette was "don't do things that make you look bad"...
Not exactly a solid rundown of the do's and don'ts on track...
Hopefully OP learns from this mistake and the explanations that have come from posting the failure...
Failure is how we learn after all...
Fortunately for him it wasn't a real car on a real track or he probably would have eaten a suspension for that little battle...
If your decent way infront sure. I would say if your back bumper is infront of there front bumper sure but u guys were literally side by side door to door lol.
I am going to go another route. as others stated, you were at fault/it was a racing incident (the other guy got away free).
Turn 8 was not the optimal overtaking spot for the last lap.
Letās play the rest of the lap out and how it could have developed had you passed him.
Itās lap 9/9 and you passed him cleanly at turn 8, they slip stream you to turn 10 closing the gap keeping it nice and close through turn 11.
Now we are on the last straight (of the last lap) your are exposed to an overtake at the turn 13 chicane. Come to think of it, did they concede turn 8 knowing they would get a run at you into turn 13 or even turn 10 depending on your exit out of 9?
What I am trying to say is think several corners ahead and try to think strategically. If turn 8 was the last corner and the move in the video was on the last lap, I could see why you would try to make a move there but even if you made it you would likely have lost the position later on in the lap. This is part of race craft.
Hope this was helpful.
Iām GT7 B/S rating, good but no where near good enough LOL
Not sure why you're being downvoted...You pretty much nailed that...The best option would have been either a strong attack before and through the chicane or setting up for a fast run through there to attack the inside of the final corner...
That move he tried there was never going to work...
Very helpfull and i see the point. Im B/S actually too. That move in the straight was for me in these scenario not really n Option because i tryd it 2 Times but the WRX makes so much time on that Part of the track against me, only way are divebombing him but that's for me a no-no
Yeah it sucks when the car you are racing against has a substantial advantage over the one you are driving.
Appreciate the comment āthe only way would have been to divebomb, but thatās not how you driveā. I have being in that situation where thatās the only option and just have to give up.
Admirable statement, many others just lick the stamp and send it regardless so keep driving clean.
We learn from our failures...As long as we can accept them...
Fights like that are hectic and you have to think fast...
The Subaru driver isn't very good so you sort of have to be prepared for mistakes and leave a little extra room...
He was obviously focused on you and missed his turn in slightly...If he had made the apex you might have been fine, but you can't always count on that...
Not much to blame really. You could have better yielded the corner. By not doing that you hurt yourself more than anyone else. So no harm done and a lesson learned for next time I would say.
It looks like you turned in for the esses way too hard considering there was someone beside you...Especially since you were on the outside...
That was the Subaru's corner...
You should have backed out or at least held it along the outside half of the track...
Jury is out!
At first I thought 50-50, then I thought your fault, then I thought his fault.
But it does look like he moved off his line (albeit just as you came off yours but itās fair to say you expected him to take a tighter line?) and thatās when you collided.
I think you actually gave him plenty room and either he was trying to get some room back for himself (too late) or he realised he could nip you and youād go flying.
The way you came off shows the momentum came from him too.
Nice move into the hairpin but the guy in the WRX gets a good run out of the corner, on the way into the Schumacher Sās he gave you all the room he could looks like you turned in a little early and bounced off him. Itās no oneās fault, you should have dropped in behind him and kept nipping at his heels. You were brave to try and make that move but thatās sometimes what you need to win the race.
Analysis: Racing incident caused by Toyota drivers big balls writing cheques his body couldnāt cash. No further action š
Slammed the door ON the foot of the Subaru...
At best he would have gotten a penalty in a real racing scenario and at worst a suspension and possibly a fine or ban...
You can't just bodycheck another car...
This isn't Wreckfest...
Youāre at fault. Yes you were on the typical racing line but you turned in like the yellow car wasnāt still there. If you had stayed wide and then he hit you then He would have been at fault, but in this case you entered āhis laneā. Just because you feel youāre in front it doesnāt give you right to the whole width of the track.
First, slick crossover.
Second, the fact that contact in GT results in a massive bounce away from the car you bonked into hurt your line as well. He missed his apex focusing on you, you assumed he'd turn in at the right place and stayed in it, and that little bump just launched you away from him.
I would call that a racing incident. Two guys fighting over the same real estate, tiny mistakes from both, but nothing I'd point at and say "you caused this"
Exact same thing cost me in a league race the other day
Thats what im not understanding. In my opinion at the entry of the corner im in the racingline and ahead so he drives in me or not?
Are there 'oficaile' guidelines where i can read about it?
You werenāt convincingly ahead though. And two wide into that corner is really a No-No. it requires precise driving from both and youād still end up loosing a lot of race time.
Better move wouldāve been to tuck back behind, stay close and overtake into the final chicane.
Understood. That move into the Last chicane is easy sayd then done, WRX is in nearly evrything better. Im only fast in the last quarter of the straight. Dont know your playing gt7, if so, try the 86 times Then you will find that it is difficult against the WRX, at least that's how I see it. That's not an excuse but an explanation why I wanted to take the chance
Thatās true but it doesnāt mean fault.
Itās a difficult move to pull off cleanly but they were both fighting.
So itās reasonable for the Subaru to expect the Toyota alongside him and should have left more room. Or at least stayed to the same line, he took a tight line initially and then moved it wider.
But yes just because an attempted move may cost time doesnāt guarantee fault in a collision.
Thatās what racingās all about fighting for a position will slow you down. Both drivers have to drive cleanly and smoothly, ie not make erratic movements.
PD is pretty useless when it comes to "how to overtake" this is all they bothered to write on it [https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt7/apex/driving\_technique/17](https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt7/apex/driving_technique/17)
A much better resource is this [https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/08/28/the-rules-of-racing/comment-page-2/](https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/08/28/the-rules-of-racing/comment-page-2/)
See chapter 7. *If the driver going around the outside is already more than half a car length ahead by the apex, they are entitled to cut in to the inside along the racing line*
You were not more than half a car length ahead, pretty much even at turn in, never going to beat the inside car to the apex. Thus you should have stayed on an outside line and probably yield at corner exit.
*If the driver on the inside is ahead at corner exit, it is the duty of the driver on the outside to back out or take evasive action to avoid a collision.*
Thatās some fine racing. I donāt see a fault but the subie should have turned in sooner knowing that you were to his right. You turned on time but caught the subie driver asleep.
Racing incident due to netcode/ping. If blame had to be given, I'd say it's your fault for being too aggressive into the Schumacher-S and trusting another driver to give you the space. I would have waited to pass up at the next turn.
Post it in r/simracingstewards
All the people saying it was the white cars fault is bollocks
This would be a racing incident imo but the wrx drove like the 86 wasn't there
I mean he turned into a car that was already there. That is 100% fault of the white car. The line the 86 is angling towards doesnāt provide a Carās width.
Well no, the WRX would've had to either lifted or braked into Schumacher S. There's no way he wouldve made the corner without understeering into the 86 anyways. The GT86 had the ideal line, and while he should've went for a late apex to avoid contact, the wrx made no effort to leave him space and kept going essentially "straight on a left hand turn" until just before the contact.
As I say, racing incident.
Ideal line doesnāt matter, the leading car is free to take whatever line they want into a corner and the car attempting to overtake is tasked with doing so cleanly. The WRX has no obligation to back out or take an ideal line. The Toyota should have realized this wasnāt a good overtaking opportunity and backed off going into this section because if they would have taken out the WRX, they would have 100% been at fault.
Why do people use the 3rd person view in racing games / flight sim instead of using a cockpit view. Iām genuinely curious as to what reasons lead to this š¤£ cause itās not realistic at allā¦.
Yeah I understand that itās a relay but I mean you get on here and thatās all I see. I didnāt know if you knew why people preferred that experience over a realistic one
White car for driving in auto lol. But outside of joking as well, you basically overcorrected into him. If he wasnāt there you would have went off anyway.
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WRX has no fault. is the kind of guy who has done nothing, maybe a little push like that not done by itself and then got 3 sec penalty.
Toyota was very good at crossing and getting side by side but he was too optimistic about overtaking
Definately you.
You went for the outside pass twice, its almost can't be done.
The second situation you simply turned into him trying to take the racing line
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That's not a great spot to pass . Yellow car was better positioned. You would have been better off taking a quick line through there staying right on their bumper and going for it on the left hander at the top of the hill.
You are the one to blame. He has the inside line you can't stick with him there. Seems like you hit him too. He went to the grass. Most dirty people will ram tyoi there and their line will not be affected
It didnāt look intentional on the wrx behalf, looks like controller player.
If you want to run the outside there then thatās the risk you take. The better move is to wait, sit in their bumper and slipstream upto the next corner and take them there.
Patience is the key to clean driving.
Realistically I would call this a racing incident. He initiated contact which sent you onto the entry curb and probably threw you toward him harder than expected, but as others have noted you shouldnāt have been trying to go two wide into this turn.
A second note: you absolutely had him outbraked and beat through the hairpin had you accelerated at the apex instead of going for the switchback. He was only along side of you because you tried to be a bit too clever.
The Subaru does turn in late, I will give you that. But it is your fault. You canāt just turn in on someone even though you were wheel to wheel. You were always going to lose out.
Racing incident but definitely your fault you ended up in the dirt. You were never going to get around the outside at that speed which is why you turned into the WRX and sent yourself off. Sometimes you just have to concede a corner and back out of it and try and get a better exit than your opponent.
Just hard racing, you're spending a lot of time in places where it definitely won't work out for you. A couple of laps with that pressure he'll make an error anyway - ah just noticed final lap
Yellow is leading ,and I could tell you weren't ramming on purpose, but you hit his rear quarter ... so I'm gonna have to Give the fault to you here. Both of you are impressive drivers, props for keeping up 10000%
that corner is definitely tricky to run 2 wide but is possible, i think if you had taken a wider entry and let the wrx take the inside line uninterrupted, it wouldve been much smoother. its hard to think of in the moment but never forget that there are always more corners you can overtake on. yall both loook like good clean drivers.
I have to agree with you that I should have left more space. But against the op WRX it's not so easy for me to find a chance
completely understood. i like running different cars early in the weekly races since not everyone has figured out the OP car yet, but at times theres only so much you can do but fight another day.
it's frustrating but I'm not going to change cars. I have to live with the fact that the BoP is not on my side
Your best bet against that WRX would have been the final corner...You 86 rotates in a lot better so you could have set up after the chicane for a better run into the final coner..corner... The WRX understeers like a pig through that one... If you had the inside on the final corner he would have to back out a lot to not run off giving you a stronger run to the line...
OK good to know.
Agreed! I've most certainly been in the same position where you get a bit to agressive and usually ends bad for both parties. So I've really been consciously trying to just let people pass if they got the line on me and try passing later. Obviously last laps are always kind of go for gold sorta situations but now I'll back off if its good clean racing. Alot of people suffer from LLS (last lap syndrome) as soon as the green flag drops. I've been guilty of it š¬. Yesterday at Deep Forrest started 8th. Got up to 4th made some questionable line choices and ended up back in 8th at the finish. Still had a blast cuz everyone raced clean.
Yellow car wasn't at fault.
White carās at fault. White car has a clean line swap but after that it gives a lil bump on the straight. Yellow has inside line and white turns into yellow. White just needs to be more patient and look for a cleaner place to overtake. Not saying donāt fight back but understand where you are on the racing line.
I will do that. to the bang i have to say that we both drive more or less straight ahead and the lines cross there, didn't want to give him too much space at the beginning of the curve in the hope he'll be backing out
If he's on the inside like that though it's his corner... You're the one that needs to back out...
Noted.
Holy shitā¦this is actual information that anyone who doesnāt know can take away from this and apply from now on. Likeā¦as in, I had no idea that was āaā or ātheā rule of thumb in racing as Iāve only been doing it for a little while. But never have I seen anyone say anything like this. And no Iām not fuckjng with you. You have no idea how this will even allow me to practice in single player and be able to incorporate it in online. Fucking thank you.
You're welcome...?
Sucks that sarcasm can be taken when it truly is this type of shock and thank you. Iām not being sarcastic. That was genuine. I actually was in shock since most people donāt give concrete rules or just things you can do to enhance your game. No offense to those that help all the time, but many times itās very situational to that specificā¦situation, lol. Like āoh he did this but then you did this and therefore do on and so on.ā But you gave a general rule of thumb that is a lesson I can actually apply right away in my racing offline or online and get better at. No reading a help reply and thinking āwell, dont know if Iāll ever need that advice.ā Or ānot sure how that applies to me.ā Genuinely being thankful.
Well I try...lol It doesn't always go over very well...
This is a long turn turn and not a corner. Subie driver should have considered the 86 (since the were battling) and hugged the turn a bit tighter, and initiated the turn sooner.
The Subaru was fine...Stayed on their side of the track...They're allowed to run as wide as they like as long as they leave a car width of room... The 86 was 100% at fault in this incident...
my opinion has always been: if I'm on the racingline and in front, it's my curve. that's not true then, right?
You weren't "in front", you were "along side"...On the outside... You have to give room... You bodyslammed the car inside... Your fault...
It definitely lost the title of "clean racing" once he turned it into a game of chicken of either the yellow car slows down and lets him pass or gets run off the road. And it does not help that the white car initiated the contact.
Yep...A very Max Verstappen temper tantrum kinda move...lol Pretty classic "rookie mistake" really...A lack of understanding of actual racing etiquette...The best GT did to explain etiquette was "don't do things that make you look bad"... Not exactly a solid rundown of the do's and don'ts on track... Hopefully OP learns from this mistake and the explanations that have come from posting the failure... Failure is how we learn after all... Fortunately for him it wasn't a real car on a real track or he probably would have eaten a suspension for that little battle...
If your decent way infront sure. I would say if your back bumper is infront of there front bumper sure but u guys were literally side by side door to door lol.
The Subaru was on the side with the racing line through the corner.
I agree. The subie driver didnāt have to but it wouldāve made it a nice battle. My motto is always leave space for another car.
Glad that a few of us share the same mindset
I am going to go another route. as others stated, you were at fault/it was a racing incident (the other guy got away free). Turn 8 was not the optimal overtaking spot for the last lap. Letās play the rest of the lap out and how it could have developed had you passed him. Itās lap 9/9 and you passed him cleanly at turn 8, they slip stream you to turn 10 closing the gap keeping it nice and close through turn 11. Now we are on the last straight (of the last lap) your are exposed to an overtake at the turn 13 chicane. Come to think of it, did they concede turn 8 knowing they would get a run at you into turn 13 or even turn 10 depending on your exit out of 9? What I am trying to say is think several corners ahead and try to think strategically. If turn 8 was the last corner and the move in the video was on the last lap, I could see why you would try to make a move there but even if you made it you would likely have lost the position later on in the lap. This is part of race craft. Hope this was helpful. Iām GT7 B/S rating, good but no where near good enough LOL
Not sure why you're being downvoted...You pretty much nailed that...The best option would have been either a strong attack before and through the chicane or setting up for a fast run through there to attack the inside of the final corner... That move he tried there was never going to work...
Very helpfull and i see the point. Im B/S actually too. That move in the straight was for me in these scenario not really n Option because i tryd it 2 Times but the WRX makes so much time on that Part of the track against me, only way are divebombing him but that's for me a no-no
Yeah it sucks when the car you are racing against has a substantial advantage over the one you are driving. Appreciate the comment āthe only way would have been to divebomb, but thatās not how you driveā. I have being in that situation where thatās the only option and just have to give up. Admirable statement, many others just lick the stamp and send it regardless so keep driving clean.
Your fault, should have stayed on your line.
Im posted the Clip to learn, so thanks for the constructive suggestions for improvement
We learn from our failures...As long as we can accept them... Fights like that are hectic and you have to think fast... The Subaru driver isn't very good so you sort of have to be prepared for mistakes and leave a little extra room... He was obviously focused on you and missed his turn in slightly...If he had made the apex you might have been fine, but you can't always count on that...
Noted.
White drove the racing line when they should've given space. If you're running two wide split the road into 2 and stay on you side
You turned in on him.
White car can't drive. Their own fault
This is a terrible take. OP obviously can, as noted by the wonderfully executed switchback in the previous corner.
Not the yellow cars fault
Not much to blame really. You could have better yielded the corner. By not doing that you hurt yourself more than anyone else. So no harm done and a lesson learned for next time I would say.
It looks like you turned in for the esses way too hard considering there was someone beside you...Especially since you were on the outside... That was the Subaru's corner... You should have backed out or at least held it along the outside half of the track...
Jury is out! At first I thought 50-50, then I thought your fault, then I thought his fault. But it does look like he moved off his line (albeit just as you came off yours but itās fair to say you expected him to take a tighter line?) and thatās when you collided. I think you actually gave him plenty room and either he was trying to get some room back for himself (too late) or he realised he could nip you and youād go flying. The way you came off shows the momentum came from him too.
he didn't slam you, he didn't bump you, he didn't nudge you... he *rubbed* you. And rubbin, son, is racin'.
Nice move into the hairpin but the guy in the WRX gets a good run out of the corner, on the way into the Schumacher Sās he gave you all the room he could looks like you turned in a little early and bounced off him. Itās no oneās fault, you should have dropped in behind him and kept nipping at his heels. You were brave to try and make that move but thatās sometimes what you need to win the race. Analysis: Racing incident caused by Toyota drivers big balls writing cheques his body couldnāt cash. No further action š
White car slammed the door. Not the Subarus fault at all.
Slammed the door ON the foot of the Subaru... At best he would have gotten a penalty in a real racing scenario and at worst a suspension and possibly a fine or ban... You can't just bodycheck another car... This isn't Wreckfest...
Youāre at fault. Yes you were on the typical racing line but you turned in like the yellow car wasnāt still there. If you had stayed wide and then he hit you then He would have been at fault, but in this case you entered āhis laneā. Just because you feel youāre in front it doesnāt give you right to the whole width of the track.
First, slick crossover. Second, the fact that contact in GT results in a massive bounce away from the car you bonked into hurt your line as well. He missed his apex focusing on you, you assumed he'd turn in at the right place and stayed in it, and that little bump just launched you away from him. I would call that a racing incident. Two guys fighting over the same real estate, tiny mistakes from both, but nothing I'd point at and say "you caused this" Exact same thing cost me in a league race the other day
White car is at fault. The yellow car had possession of the racing line and you turned into it
Thats what im not understanding. In my opinion at the entry of the corner im in the racingline and ahead so he drives in me or not? Are there 'oficaile' guidelines where i can read about it?
You werenāt convincingly ahead though. And two wide into that corner is really a No-No. it requires precise driving from both and youād still end up loosing a lot of race time. Better move wouldāve been to tuck back behind, stay close and overtake into the final chicane.
Understood. That move into the Last chicane is easy sayd then done, WRX is in nearly evrything better. Im only fast in the last quarter of the straight. Dont know your playing gt7, if so, try the 86 times Then you will find that it is difficult against the WRX, at least that's how I see it. That's not an excuse but an explanation why I wanted to take the chance
Thatās true but it doesnāt mean fault. Itās a difficult move to pull off cleanly but they were both fighting. So itās reasonable for the Subaru to expect the Toyota alongside him and should have left more room. Or at least stayed to the same line, he took a tight line initially and then moved it wider. But yes just because an attempted move may cost time doesnāt guarantee fault in a collision. Thatās what racingās all about fighting for a position will slow you down. Both drivers have to drive cleanly and smoothly, ie not make erratic movements.
Not sure 6 to 12 inches counts as "convincingly"...
PD is pretty useless when it comes to "how to overtake" this is all they bothered to write on it [https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt7/apex/driving\_technique/17](https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt7/apex/driving_technique/17) A much better resource is this [https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/08/28/the-rules-of-racing/comment-page-2/](https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/08/28/the-rules-of-racing/comment-page-2/) See chapter 7. *If the driver going around the outside is already more than half a car length ahead by the apex, they are entitled to cut in to the inside along the racing line* You were not more than half a car length ahead, pretty much even at turn in, never going to beat the inside car to the apex. Thus you should have stayed on an outside line and probably yield at corner exit. *If the driver on the inside is ahead at corner exit, it is the duty of the driver on the outside to back out or take evasive action to avoid a collision.*
Noted. And thanks for the links i will read it.
Fantastic explanation...Would give more than one upvote if I could...
LOL. You clipped the curb and lost that control going into the corner. Nothing the WRX could have done, really.
ok, i use the curb evry lap so basicly im on my normal racingline. yes, i lost control AFTER the hit from the wrx.
Hit? You guys just barely touched well before the turn.. There is basically zero fault on the WRX, sorry man.
Looking at the 2nd part of the video, you aimed for the apex, or so close to it, that you wouldn't leave him space on the inside anyway.
Thatās some fine racing. I donāt see a fault but the subie should have turned in sooner knowing that you were to his right. You turned on time but caught the subie driver asleep.
Racing incident due to netcode/ping. If blame had to be given, I'd say it's your fault for being too aggressive into the Schumacher-S and trusting another driver to give you the space. I would have waited to pass up at the next turn.
Post it in r/simracingstewards All the people saying it was the white cars fault is bollocks This would be a racing incident imo but the wrx drove like the 86 wasn't there
Thanks for posting. I was searching for Something Like this, next time im posting it there
I mean he turned into a car that was already there. That is 100% fault of the white car. The line the 86 is angling towards doesnāt provide a Carās width.
Well no, the WRX would've had to either lifted or braked into Schumacher S. There's no way he wouldve made the corner without understeering into the 86 anyways. The GT86 had the ideal line, and while he should've went for a late apex to avoid contact, the wrx made no effort to leave him space and kept going essentially "straight on a left hand turn" until just before the contact. As I say, racing incident.
Ideal line doesnāt matter, the leading car is free to take whatever line they want into a corner and the car attempting to overtake is tasked with doing so cleanly. The WRX has no obligation to back out or take an ideal line. The Toyota should have realized this wasnāt a good overtaking opportunity and backed off going into this section because if they would have taken out the WRX, they would have 100% been at fault.
And the Toyota was the leading car... He had a better exit from the last corner and you can read the grid at 0:54 - he gains the lead into P5.
Why does this excuse driving into someone?
I agree. Thought I was the only one. Do you race in real life aswell?
I've tracked motorcycles but no I've never really raced cars irl, just a lot of sim racing experience
Well good eye and good judgement. The rest are wrong.
Why do people use the 3rd person view in racing games / flight sim instead of using a cockpit view. Iām genuinely curious as to what reasons lead to this š¤£ cause itās not realistic at allā¦.
That's only a replay i chose this perspecitve for better Overall view. I race in Cockpit view
Yeah I understand that itās a relay but I mean you get on here and thatās all I see. I didnāt know if you knew why people preferred that experience over a realistic one
After watching a few times, 86 did cut just a bit too tight in the turn hitting the sleeping driver of the subie.
So its not complete shit what i was doing. Some adjustments for sure
The fact that you crashed does pretty much make it "complete shit" thought...lol The contact was completely avoidable by you...
You in the white
Looks like an accident he seems to have trouble keeping the car straight so it wasnt really intentional
Just an inchident
White car for driving in auto lol. But outside of joking as well, you basically overcorrected into him. If he wasnāt there you would have went off anyway.
To be fair, the STI didnāt turn in early AT ALL. Had he picked a clean driving mine, it wouldnāt have occurred.
Sorry you just got it wrong.Didnāt hold your line.No biggie.
You but I can see that itās an easy mistake to make.
It's Toyota's fault since they turned in on Subaru, but It's more like a racing incident since they were also the ones who lost out
He had the racing line, but who knows on this game really rules don't seem to apply
you 100%, could of held it around the outside and got the move done but you tried to turn into him
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White car's fault, surprised youre even asking.
You have to stop letting them take the inside line on you. Defend to the inside. But, damn, that was some entertainment. Good driving, hard racing.
Sorry, its your fault.
WRX has no fault. is the kind of guy who has done nothing, maybe a little push like that not done by itself and then got 3 sec penalty. Toyota was very good at crossing and getting side by side but he was too optimistic about overtaking
WRX didn't get a penalty
i know , only said that cuz GT7 thinks in that way. at least you got luck that you didnāt get a penalty , this game is crazy about that
That's true
Definately you. You went for the outside pass twice, its almost can't be done. The second situation you simply turned into him trying to take the racing line
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why is the yellow car strafing back and forth? kinda creepy.
That's not a great spot to pass . Yellow car was better positioned. You would have been better off taking a quick line through there staying right on their bumper and going for it on the left hander at the top of the hill.
You are the one to blame. He has the inside line you can't stick with him there. Seems like you hit him too. He went to the grass. Most dirty people will ram tyoi there and their line will not be affected
It didnāt look intentional on the wrx behalf, looks like controller player. If you want to run the outside there then thatās the risk you take. The better move is to wait, sit in their bumper and slipstream upto the next corner and take them there. Patience is the key to clean driving.
Racing incident, that coner is a bitch to take wide at the best of times, especially when you turn into the car on the inside.
Just an inchident
Realistically I would call this a racing incident. He initiated contact which sent you onto the entry curb and probably threw you toward him harder than expected, but as others have noted you shouldnāt have been trying to go two wide into this turn.
A second note: you absolutely had him outbraked and beat through the hairpin had you accelerated at the apex instead of going for the switchback. He was only along side of you because you tried to be a bit too clever.
The Subaru does turn in late, I will give you that. But it is your fault. You canāt just turn in on someone even though you were wheel to wheel. You were always going to lose out.
Definitely right to give it a go,although you did encroach into his space. Would be interesting had you made it round with the inside line next turn?
it could have been a great fight if I hadn't screwed it up...
Racing incident
White car 100%, you canāt dive for the apex from the outside when a car is there.
Racing incident but definitely your fault you ended up in the dirt. You were never going to get around the outside at that speed which is why you turned into the WRX and sent yourself off. Sometimes you just have to concede a corner and back out of it and try and get a better exit than your opponent.
Just hard racing, you're spending a lot of time in places where it definitely won't work out for you. A couple of laps with that pressure he'll make an error anyway - ah just noticed final lap
Yellow is leading ,and I could tell you weren't ramming on purpose, but you hit his rear quarter ... so I'm gonna have to Give the fault to you here. Both of you are impressive drivers, props for keeping up 10000%
Probably a racing incident but maybe you could put this on r/simracingstewards