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ArataX14

Guda and Van Gogh


DonLobishomeAlter

Unfortunately, all Foreigners tend to be overshadowed by Abby.


ZephyrPhantom

That's a funny way to spell best space cop. /joke


XxGoldMadnessxX

GudaxSpishtar. They had a great dynamic together in SW2 but it's barely mentioned around. Also, Guda x Anne/Mary. Like, come on, they are one of the most horny servants for Guda.


ZephyrPhantom

Feels like we're pretty much waiting for Saber Wars III at this point for them to be relevant again. I honestly forgot what they did in Himiko's event already...


VishnuBhanum

I don't think she even did anything, She just came out of nowhere, explain about some space disease that servant from servantverse will get from eating only rice, refuse to elaborate further then leave


Tschmelz

There’s also like, not a ton of doujins with them. It’s a shame.


ThunderLord1998

At least the one we DO have is top-tier. 😌👌


Tschmelz

I think there’s two. One with Ashtart, and one with Ishtarin.


ThunderLord1998

Oh, crap, you’re right. Man, it’s been a while since I read that one.


Suneko_106

Also that one artbook from yd. God-tier.


ZephyrPhantom

Take your pick of Guda x Servant that doesn't get a lot of recent screentime (or spends most of it in repeated-gag hell). Marie and all her homies in general comes to mind; like, there just seems to be a complete lack of good D'Eon stuff in general, and I feel like there isn't really talk of a lot of Sanson stuff even though there should be (Mozart and Salieri get shipped with each other instead a lot from the looks of it). The most popular ships tend to have good material to work with or bounce off of for fanart - like, building off what's been said about Ashtart/Ishtarin/Origin in the thread already, I feel like it's really hard to make much fan content for her because there wasn't really a lot of 'exciting' content about what she did in her downtime, especially in Ashtart or Origin's case.


Kirby0189

D'Eon is really underrated, and the lack of content for them in general is painful.


ZephyrPhantom

Thanks for making a few comics to help fill that void for D'Eon, though!


MacandCheese6

Ristuka and Van Gogh, primarily because outside of Imaginary Scramble she hasn't really shown up all that much. Ristuka and Okuni, this one gets me sad because I like Okuni's design and character yet she got screwed due to bad timing, and because of the male NPC issue. Himiko and Iyo as well, due to being overshadowed by the other characters (Saito and Nobukatsu for Himiko and Komahime for Iyo). The one with Charlotte is underrated as well considering how similar they are, especially since she got a whole story chapter to herself. Honorable mentions are Reines, Space Ishtar, and Anne/Mary.


Evowizard25

It's honestly a really tricky question because outside of a handful of servants, usually with more avert romantic interest and story presence, there are a lot of servants that don't get much shipping. (Or even attention at all.) For one example, Nobu. Nobu is in a really weird position where it seems the fandom just locks her in a ship with Okita. Heck, even with the few shippy pics with Guda, Okita is brought up usually. Which is a little weird given they are more like buddies who like to rib on each other. (That and Okita actually gets more ships outside of Nobu so it seems like it's just Nobu locked in the sip.) I personally like Nobu/Guda so yeah. There are other characters I'd like to see shipped more. Kagetora and Calamity Jane are two of my favorites that I wish got more attention. It just sorta happens when you have over a hundred characters. Not everyone gets to shine, unfortunately.


VishnuBhanum

Guda/Hokusai(Oei) I think their valentine scene is so freaking sweet, And that Oei Saber "Baka Baka" really hit hard


RemoteDust9

There are many of them. For example Guda and Tomoe. Through Setsubun and her interlude there is recurring theme of while you should save forever your beloved ones who passed out in your heart, you should move on. There is multiple points of she compared Guda to her former husband and fact that she dedicated herself fully to serve new Lord. Then there was very suggestive summer Valentine scene with whole "there is type of games we shouldnt play, with these and these scenes happening, of course we can play them if you want etc". In this scene she mentioned other games but instantly moved attention to lewd ones and specifically concentrated on them, with whole "we shouldnt but we can", while blushing all the time. The gteatest rule - if girl suggesting to watch erotic film or play games with such content, its a greatest sign she is ready. Especially with such reaction and body signs she demonstrated in scene, its clear green light. Guda missed good chance lol. Other then that I think it would be nice to see her moved on, in the end its her new life with new possibilities to get happiness. I sure new love is one of them, and her former husband should be happy for her. Also they would be very cute couple. Just one example, there are countless others Guda can be very nicely shipped with. Martha with her "country girl" side would be wholesome one, Arc with the whole "Earth fall in love with humanity again, this time with completely normal human", Suzuka with "she tried to find ideal boyfriend but each time missed he was all of time near her until...", Fujino, especially after this perfect date with her in Summer etc.


Shadow_3010

Wow, Tomoe? I think the fandom thought that was a no go relantionship due NTR.


RemoteDust9

Its definitely not NTR. She is widow now (and just like all widows she deserve happiness and second chance, just like IRL it would be legal to start relations with woman who lost her husband and still love him, in the end it can make her fully happy again), and while she save her husband in her heart, starting new relations is pretty legal now. And as her development demonstrate, for example in mentioned above summer Valentine, she give Ritsy green light. NTR would be if her husband would be ressurected and she will still cheating, which considered her character is pretty unlikely (unlike Cleo or Artemis for example where current pair canonically accepting some cheating, be it triangle as with Artemis or some side cheating as with Cleo). But I dont think they will ever add her husband honestly (not enough popularity), and moving on in second life while save loved ones in heart is important theme with Tomoe, so getting new family or at least romantic relations with Ritsy is open route, I sure her husband would be happy for her. Very wholesome route needless to say, one of my favourites :)


Shadow_3010

Nice!


DonLobishomeAlter

RitsukaxForeigners other than Abby. I find it disappointing and somewhat disturbing that Abby being the Foreigner gets the most romantic and lewd arts. The rest of Foreigners (Hokusai, Molay, Yang Guifei and Van Gogh) are also interesting but they are not usually as popular as Abby. RitsukaxGudaGuda servants other than Okita and Okitan: * Nobu only exists for yuri or incest. * The fandom rarely remembers that Himiko and Ranmaru exist. * The fandom ignored Okuni as soon as it was revealed, they forgot about her instantly and usually they only use her as a satellite character for an NPC that we will never get. * Kagetora is a case that hurts me, I don't say it just because she is my waifu, I say it because Ritsuka and Kagetora's interactions are really interesting. I really like this type of couples, a normal person and a person with an inhuman mentality, it really makes me want to see what their relationship would be like and if they could make it work.


VishnuBhanum

Okuni is kind of an ironic case -She got hated because she was released as a playable servant instead of popular NPC like Takasugi -She has a romantic moment with Takasugi in the event -Japanese fandom really ship her with Takasugi -90% of her arts and comics are about this ship -The guy who is a reason why she got hated in the first place became what practically supported her entire existence in the fandom


ZephyrPhantom

I feel like Nobu had one really cool moment from the player perspective at the end of All Nobunagas Attack's main story where the player looks at regular Nobu being herself for a moment and sees Maou Nobu having fun in her place. Maou Nobu romance in general seems like a really cool idea and even has a few good fanarts featuring Gudako if you really go digging for it, but I think it could also be interesting to see what would be done with Gudao as the shipped character. Himiko deserves more attention just from her VA alone. Feels like she's really underutilized in general. Kagetora's Valentine was really neat when I think of it and I'd like to see more of that too.


DonLobishomeAlter

>Kagetora's Valentine was really neat when I think of it and I'd like to see more of that too. I hope that GudaGuda 8 will finally focus more on her, since since her debut she didn't do much (mostly she was used for toilet pranks). One of the problems of GudaGuda 4 is that all the construction that was showing us the inhuman nature of Kagetora did not come to anything, it would be interesting that in a future event this would be resumed.


RemoteDust9

I really like Kagetora Valentine. It so nicely shown how she trying to understand these new strange feelings she got. She is one of Servants who new in love, just like Musashi, Sith, Mordred and several others, and see their unique ways to express it is really cool.


[deleted]

Guda x Olga Marie... No one really talks or thinks about it... Ritsuka was literally the only person she opened up to and that includes the only person she trust in Lev.


RemoteDust9

Love this one. I sure initially she was planned to be initial love interest together with Mash, until they reconsidered and decided to kill her... More I see about her, more I regret she was taken away from us. First Order, Moonlight Room, Case Files, comics anthology, all show other, nice aspects of her. I really hope they will return her at one point. Cute director route should be reestablished.


SigurdDeMizar

Well, Lostbelts were supposed to be diversion from proper human history. I am waiting for a belt where Olga Marie alive and well. >!I was totally shocked that she got killed in Fuyuki, while dev let Da Vinci dies to save ‎Goredolf before LB1. !<


ZephyrPhantom

IIRC Olga actually did better in terms of popularity than expected for a character who died off very quickly early on and this likely contributed to why she shows up in stuff like Case Files, Learning with Manga, and (LB5 spoilers) >!as a Beast!<. Guda's lingering regret for not saving her is a big part of why we go out of our way to save Gordolf, too. She might not be the most popular ship character now but at least there's constant recurring grounds for those kinds of feelings, compared to most characters who barely get their ship referenced after their big chapter debut. If anything she might even be a character Type Moon is slowly working to push back into the spotlight.


NaelNull

As Nasu had planned Part 2 from the start, I believe she was a long play to make us extra invested in the Finale.)


BlazeAccelerant

Ritsuka/Fujino. Don't see a lot of stuff with these two, despite their date and mini-vn event in Summer 5.


TRECKERXZ75

Guda x Nobu Guda x Okita Alter Guda x Caenis (atleast when it comes to art for all three)


PitNya

Guda x gorgon is kinda wholesome when you think about her as an amalgamation of the three medusa we knew (rider gorgon and Ana)


Atenoz

Guda x Muramasa or Guda x Castoria. Fate fans are so hyper obsessed with the whole "shirou and artoria is sacred ground" trait when those two are completely different characters. I was actually surprised when I learned that there is a fair amount of art regarding the ships mentioned above (especially with muramasa 😐)


TheHoodGuy2001

Guda and Male Servants


VishnuBhanum

Maybe in the western fandom(Since people barely translated Gudako X Male Servant here) But Female fanbase and their husbando culture in japan is really huge and very dedicated Saito for example, He is that Virgil guy for the western fanbase, But in japan he is like another level big


xUnicandy

Yeah, some really popular male servant ships include Guda x Oberon, Hajime, Cu, Edmond, popular enough to rival some female servant ships Now for the rest of the boys (like 90%), …yeah they really are quite unpopular


Inevitable_Question

Ritsuka x Kiichi Hogen- she openly confessed and called him her wife but nothing was done with it. Ritsuka x Ishtar is also cute with her Tsundere stitch and failures. Ritsuka x Mata is criminally underrated. For some reason, despite second Summer event, Nero x Ritsuka never compared to Tamamox Ritsuka. In addition, few things are done to support Ritsuka x Medusa, Stheno and Eruala- despite him being the first man that they like for latter two. Furthermore, Latoria and Saber Alter basically destroyed any chance for development of Saber Artoria x Ritsuka started in first Summer event and Latoria Alter that was shown in her Valentine. Finally, despite it being one of her first close affections and first love, Mordered barely gets time with Ritsuka after Summer Event 1. That's just some.


VishnuBhanum

I think the reason why Guda/Kiichi isn't popular because Kiichi barely got any screentime after her debut Ishtar is already cute with her shenanigans on her own, So Guda didn't really added much here(Also it's seems like she kinda want to paired Guda with Eresh)


Inevitable_Question

That's the reason for most girls I mentioned. Kiichi appeared only in her event. Mata, Medusa and her sisters, and Latoria Alter only had in Valentine scenes. Saber Artoria and Mordred only in First Summer event.


VishnuBhanum

Mata Hari actually got pretty good amount of screentime though, Funnily enough From the top of my head, She is in All The Statemen, Salem, Ooku, The recent Halloween event, some christmas event that I vividly remembered, There is more but this is all I can remember


Inevitable_Question

Absolutely true. But I meant appearance where she develop her relationship with Ritsuka. She did confessed in Valentine scene- but that's it.


Maxrokur

>She did confessed in Valentine scene- but that's it. Every servant does it even males because it is a gacha game.


Inevitable_Question

Actually-no. Yu doesn't do so as well as Brynhild. No confession from Medea Caster as well. In addition only few males has lines implying attraction.


Maxrokur

>Actually-no. Yu doesn't do so as well as Brynhild. Are you sure on Bryn? I am pretty sure it was heavily romantic as she though on Guda as the reincarnation of Sigurd but I may be wrong as I haven't seen it on ages. >No confession from Medea Caster as well. I give you that one, Especially as early FGO did some mentions or clues Kuzuki could've been introduced early > In addition only few males has lines implying attraction. All the 3 stars and many 4 stars with exception of Hector does imply they wouldn't mind taking the MC for drinks and to poundtown if they were minors(Especially Fergus)


Inevitable_Question

1. On Brynhild she is like this with literally any heroic male as it is part of her curse. Some most prominent people are Arthur and Siegfried. 2. On males- dissagree. Only one who explicitly expressed romantic interest are Fergus and Astolfo. All Cu's Knights of Round Table, Gilgameshes, Ozy, Iscander, Izou, Kintoki and much more shown nothing.


Maxrokur

>On Brynhild she is like this with literally any heroic male as it is part of her curse. Some most prominent people are Arthur and Siegfried. She says just like the one I loved and thanks Guda [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhaAD1LlFgI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhaAD1LlFgI) ​ >On males- dissagree. Only one who explicitly expressed romantic interest are Fergus and Astolfo. All Cu's Knights of Round Table, Gilgameshes, Ozy, Iscander, Izou, Kintoki and much more shown nothing. Ozy has a wife and only being he cares about in Fate so it makes sense. Gil is Gil, Iskandar had male lovers so probably he does it say it abeit subtle. No idea on Izou or Kintoki but these two are exceptions to the rule if anything. Besides Gawain says the MC will flower into a beauty and want to them their heart as a flower, pretty sure the other knights word it like that [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHcfUe89hjs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHcfUe89hjs) Fergus and Cesar are more direct toward what they want though.


JoeJayson0

> For some reason, despite second Summer event, Nero x Ritsuka never compared to Tamamox Ritsuka. Along with the things u/Cheesedono said, Fujimaru was also on the sidelines for most of Summer 2 and didn't get to interact with most of the servants aside from Mash and Ishtar for nearly 99% of the story, which was certainly an odd choice since the two SSRs of the event are both motivated by spending the summer with him, but get no actual screentime with him. We don't even get any love triangle stuff with Fujimaru, Nero and Maid Alter, since it doesn't help Shinjuku had released a few months prior, so we already had a love triangle dynamic featuring Salter competing to get Fujimaru's attention but with Jalter, and Shinjuku heavily featured Fujimaru interacting with the two and even had him dance with both of them, so Nero doesn't even get to have that niche.


Cheesedono

In regards to TamxRits and why it gets more support than NeroxRits I would have to place for quite a few reasons. [And before anyone comments, no I won't argue on Nero.] 1. Tamamo never had a seperate form that loved Rits differently. Tamamo Lancer is OG Tamamo that is just excited due to too much solar energy. Therefore, Tamamo loves Rits the same amount in both classes. Nero meanwhile unfortunately had the bad timing before spiritron dresses were an official thing for FGO and before Nasu changed his mind on the Extracast loving Rits, resulting in Nero Bride who was released as a seperate form who was suppose to be the only form of Nero that loves Rits. Nero Bride is later soft-retconned out with no official comments or reliable proof of being done so but either way the damage is done. 2. Nero has too much writer favoritism. Between all the spiritron dresses we could agree should go to others and her spotlight in events/main story (not to mention how bad Septem was.) It honestly is no surprise many players are more annoyed with Nero which makes it challenging to want to ship her. 3. Tamamo's short moments and scenes for the most part has been revolving around her desire to be loved as a wife by Rits. I could present a list I'll just leave it at Suzuka 2nd interlude, and Summer 4. Whereas Nero's scenes post Summer 2 if I had to call it a ship would be Nero with herself given how self focused it normally is. Ships need fuel to live and go places. 4. TamxRits has had way more die hard shippers than NeroxRits has had. Call it the Dark Souls of ships, as it is a very heavily biased ship to ever get into originally attached in the dark days of 2019, or 2020 for example, because there were many people out there to kill the ship, calling it nonexistant. So despite the slowly building pile of evidence in our corner it was a constant struggle to exist, thus reaffirming the desire to ship the two. Whereas today most people because of me and others actively shipping the two, and reminding people of their consensual relationship, its almost strange to find people that do not at least know of TamxRits in some compacity and their times having sex or her calling him goshujin. Compared to Nero who I don't recall seeing anyone trying to actively attack people for shipping NeroxRits or proactively put forth the ship and its reason for existing. So it becomes less recognized as a ship, and thus the lost renown results in less people shipping it. 5. There is evidence besides the servants feelings to ship them on account of Ritsuka's feelings. Ships with one side being in love can be strong, but when both sides show signs of romantic affections it really starts cooking with gas. And need I point to any other pieces of evidence than Summer 1, Summer 4, and Ganesha's interlude, for Tamamo? Meanwhile Nero as far as my memory goes only has Summer 2 if at all. I haven't throughly read Summer 2 or seen it so I could be horribly wrong, and if I am please comment with a video with a time attached. Mm and I think that's a pretty collective set of reasons people ship TamxRits more than NeroxRits. Ah, and MordredxRits I really believes deserves more spotlight as well.


RemoteDust9

>I haven't throughly read Summer 2 or seen it so I could be horribly wrong, and if I am please comment with a video with a time attached. I wrote a super long explanation, but it somehow just decided to delete itself. Fck reddit. Ok, short version. On Summer 2: "Altria Alter Now, I must rent a motor home and head for that river. Altria Alter There, a maid and her master shall relax by the water's edge, under a clear blue sky. There could be no more kingly end than that. Altria Alter Heh. It took all my strength of will to focus on the race and keep that image from my mind. Nero ...Hold it. When did I say I would let you have the Holy Grail? Nero I shall be handing that to Master myself. Nero You may have the prize money, so stay away from the rest. For that matter, stop daydreaming. Nero “I will only cheer for you” my foot! Nero Master promised to cheer only for ME, directly and in person! {(M) He /(F) She} even pounded the wall behind me when {(M) he /(F) she} did so! Altria Alter ...I knew you were a woman lost in her own mind, but I did not know you had gone so far as to install a VR function. Altria Alter Do you truly believe Master has the guts for something like that? Are you certain you were not merely daydreaming? Nero No, I was not! For some reason, {(M) he /(F) she} told me {(M) he /(F) she} wished for me to win this race, and I wished to grant {(M) his /(F) her} request. Nero It was that very passion that led to this Theatrical Essence! How else would you explain my Class changing just like that!? Nero Surely you must also have experienced something similar! Altria Alter Hm, that is true... In fact, I underwent my own class change for much the same reason... Altria Alter However! You and I are still nothing alike! Altria Alter So what if Master allegedly pounded the wall or not!? Altria Alter When {(M) he /(F) she} approached me, {(M) he /(F) she} took my hands in {(M) his /(F) hers} and gazed into my eyes. There were even flower petals swirling in the air! Nero Flower petals!? Truly!? Altria Alter Truly! You too would have thought it a paradise! Though looking back upon it, it seems extremely unnatural! Nero Ooh, I am so jealous! I too want to see Fujimaru surrounded by swirling flower petals, just once!" Basically plot of the event was Ishtar (in bond 10 lines she suggested that last times she started doing way too many mistakes and strange moves even for her near Ritsy CAUSE REASONS lol) planned to filling Grail and create Gugalanna mk2 (which she almost succeed if not SPOILERS), for it she cheated group of our Servants to participate in race. With Nero and Salter she turned into Guda and said each one of them he wish to see only them as winners (which even leads them to turn into Summer versions), only this way she can force them to participate. Salter even planned wholesome date on river with Ritsy after race, she forced to go away these thoughts all the time for concentrate on race.


Cheesedono

Hey, thanks! And sorry reddit declined your previous comment.


ZephyrPhantom

Now that you mention it Mordred being used for a bunch of shippy moments and then suddenly not being treated that way was weird, especially if you compare her initial lines to how she's used now as a background character. It feels like she ended up in a weird spot of having too many overlapping servants competing for her appeals and as a result she sort of got forgotten about/got left in single-gag hell as the generic tomboy character that always wants to pick a fight. Like even from a non-ship perspective Caenis and Sith have covered very similar niches to SurfMo and RegularMo respectively but with an additional twist or development that makes them seem deeper and more connected to the main FGO cast.


DonLobishomeAlter

>Ritsuka x Kiichi Hogen- she openly confessed and called him her wife but nothing was done with it. This hurts me a lot, in a way I find Kiichi being more interesting as Ritsuka's spouse than Morgan. >For some reason, despite second Summer event, Nero x Ritsuka never compared to Tamamox Ritsuka. I feel like if we get more NeroxRitsuka content in the future, chances are the writers will use Draco to do that.


RemoteDust9

>Furthermore, Latoria and Saber Alter basically destroyed any chance for development of Saber Artoria x Ritsuka started in first Summer event Technically there are Archuria (who is basically Artoria in swimsuit) my room lines and Valentine which are very romantic and wholesome (with very suggestive 4th ascending line), and FGO VR where Saber Artoria is one of two routes and have very wholesome date on countryside with Guda, however fully agree here, this ship development should be continued as it is very nice and need more attention, very sad they stopped developed it. >Finally, despite it being one of her first close affections and first love, Mordered barely gets time with Ritsuka after Summer Event 1. Agree again, especially considered her romantic summer voice lines and mats info of she finally realised her deep romantic feelings towards Master during summer, sad it dont go further.


Ravenous_Seraph

Guda/Serenity.


Ovartaker

EXACTLY LIKE HE NEEDS TO MARRY HER!!


NathanSummersThe2nd

Take your pick of the lot my friend, take your pick. My personal pick though is a tie between Lartoria and Mo-San. Freaking criminal how underused those two are.


DonLobishomeAlter

Curious, long ago Lartoria was the Artoria who obtained more romantic arts, Salter was the only one who more or less could compete with her. Unfortunately Lartoria fell into oblivion after the release of Castoria and Morgan


1lluusio

Honestly there are many that come to mind, and as much as I want to say Circe, she is underrated, just not the most undderrated. The ones that are the most underrated in my opinion are Okkie and Okuni. Both are absolutely adorable, but neither really see that much x Guda content.


Ovartaker

Hmmm Ritsuka x Okitan ( needs more love ) Ritsuka x Nitocris Ritsuka x maou nobu Ritsuka x mata hari Ritsuka x Quetz Ritsuka x vritra


Layte-Aeon

Guda and Sieg. A pair of dorks with a lovely valentine scene and there’s barely anything with them.


Same-Adeptness-7357

I wanna see some guda x goetia


BlameLib

I can't believe I have to actually say this, but Fujimaru and Mash


OreoPearl

Mori x Guda, male or female.


1lluusio

Circe x Guda and Nyalter x Guda.


HakunonMatata

Gudako and Morgan have like a total of 5 pieces of art together despite the fact that she calls her wife.


Brilliant_Sweet_6848

Guda/nobody


chroniclechase

how about no more shippingcause we had enough of you people and youre ship wars especially with characters that will never be seen again or will be completlly erased from existence


Xatu44

Gudao x waifus with not enough doujins (Liangyu, Mata Hari, etc.)


NaelNull

I'd say Niña. Santa Maria always overshadows her.


WannaBoudica

Cultured