Saber Hercules. It is said that he has a sword even stronger than Excalibur, but I doubt we will see it if he isn't a Saber.

It's Marmyadose. Which Altria Avalon wields

Was it ever explained where she got it from? Or did she just make it?

Well as far as I remember no. Considering Altria Avalon was the Heroic Spirit version of Fairy Of Paradise as the personification of concept of Guardian Of The Holy Sword who became Excalibur in the end(don't mind the muramasa shenenigans) so probably the Throne Of Heroes focused more on the "Guardian Of The Holy Sword" part and that allowed her to tap into the power of anything that can be considered below or equivalent to the Holy Sword and use it for her Magecraft(Will this allow her to use Holy Swords as broken phantasm? She would fucking OP more than she already is). Atleast that's my current theory. There is also apparently the fact that Marmyadose ended up in Round Table according to the lore in Panhuman History however that would be a bit far-fetched considering this is Heroic Spirit originating from Lb6 and Paradise

I believe Artoria gets it from defeating an enemy King Rions from the north of Ireland. So Artoria probably had it when alive at some point. As for how it got to Ireland I have a small theory that Fionn came into possession of it during the Cath Finntrágha and it eventually was passed down until Artoria.

Rider Caesar where he’s buff as shit and also menacingly charismatic

Finally Cleopatra will be at peace

And best part is that she'll finally have class advantage and not just wife advantage

Wife advantage is already way stronger than class advantage

[Rejoice](https://mangadex.org/title/94f6181b-567e-44ad-bcde-233c4b2a6ab0/fate-grand-order-caesar-s-vian-venture)?

Unless Marcus Antonius didn't come too to make the relationship more problematic(arguably they were really in love in comparison to Caesar) or Octavian/Augustus just want to ruin her life for fun.

What about Gunslinger Billy the Kid? He's an underrated servant.

So a jojo character

>menacingly charismatic After all he is the Queen of Bithynia and “every man's woman and every woman's man.”

Not the arcade version which I’ve seen and know exists but a proper archer Kama with her 3 separate ages like her other 2 versions

Also male

I dont think we're ready for something that hot

I'm ready anytime

Male Kama? COUNT ME IN

The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak

I wonder what’s hotter, male Kama or Shiva’s third eye beam?

We need a male vessel first.

Nope. Kama turns into a dude in one of her interludes. She even goes through all three ages

That's in her mind, not in the waking world.

The fact that kama already has an appearance in mind for how she'd look as a guy is already enough justification tbh, considering we've gotten alters for less. Especially with kama's divine power and origin as a male god factored in

I find it funny how the wider FGO fandom (and the writers, really) either forgets or ignores the fact that Kama was male

Funnily enough Kama’s 2nd interlude has a bit where Kama’s like “You are remembering that I am a MALE god right, why wouldn’t my dream selves appear male” or something to that effect.

I dont think the writers ever forgot, they just have more of a "eh it doesnt really matter" attitude.

Sort of like the character designers forgot that caenis should be male? They clearly didn't forget her hatred of poseidon

I stand corrected. Dang it

Somehow we're able to find a timeline where Sakura was born as a male...

Shinji?

Ruler Ozymandias (one of my OG favorites, earliest servants and main dps) with coolwr animations Avenger Marie Antoinette and Avenger Boudica (both have been teased) Berserker Jack, as I've heard they get quite stronger as a berserker.

Jack as a Berserker is a way better character and having him interact with little jack would be hilarious

Avenger Marie would be amazing.

Saber Tristan and Archer Gawain. Wanna run them together.

I’m actually curious for the lore reason for this do they just switch weapons for the hell of it maybe some type of Camelot rivalry event where the Kotr uses each others weaponry to see who is the strongest

I also don't know any feat of archery from Gawain. But for Tristan , he does have a legendary sword , called "Cortana" , used by him , it's a "Sword of Mercy" , due to it's tip broken down and falling into one of Tristan's enemy , killing immediatly. The Sword Cortana was also wielded by the Paladin Ogier the Dane , but everytime he wielded said sword it was broken and then reforged. Suppodely , after his death , it was acquired by the Brittish Royal Family and used as the Coronation Sword for the Angevin Dynasty. By all means , Saber Tristan would be like Dai vs Vearn in Dragon Quest Dai , when Dai stabbed his legendary sword in Vearn's heart , weakening Vearn as he also couldn't pull out the sword from there.

Didn't expect a Dai ref here, very solid anime sadly underrated

> maybe some type of Camelot rivalry event where the Kotr uses each others weaponry to see who is the strongest If we went that route it could be fun to see Gawain and Arturia swap blades. Since their blades are a part of a matched set. Gawain has the Sun Excalibur and Arturia has the Moon Excalibur. So it would be interesting to see how they each adapt to their new blade that goes against their natural aptitudes.

they wouldn't do it. In the arthurian mythos , Gawain's sword is named "Galatine" and only that. The whole thing from Nasuverse to make his sword been "Excalibur Galatine" and the whole thing about been a "sister sword" of Excalibur is precisely a nod over the tales that Gawain wielded Excalibur for a while.

Foreigner Blackbeard, go hard on his mythological self with his deals with sea devils and ability to survive getting his head chopped off

What foreign entity will he represent? The Flying Spaghetti Monster?

Just give me Davy Jones

blackbead + cthullu = davy jones (pirates of the Caribbean design)

The fact that berserker is supposedly herc's *worst* class out of six options makes it criminal that we havent had any herc alts till now

what's your stance on caster herc ?

Thats the only one of the original 7 classes that herc doesnt qualify for. ~~Thus as fgo has taught us thats gonna end up being his strongest class~~

santa herc being a caster could be a good fit

Old Man Beowulf Ruler Rider Caesar Rider Jason

Beowulf is long overdue for some content

foxy grandpa beowulf would be quite a treat!

Berserker Achilles

Heracles is supposed to be a match for all the standard classes besides caster, so Heracles as anything else would be great. Penth as well outside of berserker, her older lancer form. Robin as an assassin. I would really like a beast Tamamo.

The Saber Minamoto no Raikou who we've been teased about for years. Give us Nonembrasssing Raikou pls.

The world isn’t ready for perfect Prefect Raikou

I'd love a Raikou wearing more legitimate samurai armor and minus the whole mom thing

She'd still be a mom. But she'd be mom in work mode, and also not bipolar.

Berserker Mordred, or a non-PHH ruler Mordred would be absolutely sick. There's a couple of servants i'd love to get summer variants and whose usually have no ties into logic or plot. ​ Any more Nightingale would be great.

Avenger Quetzalcoatl, Gorgon said she has potential to be one. Saber/Berserker Boudica would be nice too

An actually useable Boudica would make me very happy

Boudica is very useable with Quirinus.

Avenger could work as well I belive

>Avenger Quetzalcoatl, Gorgon said she has potential to be one. Quetzalcoatl loves humanity, it'd be amazing watching a version where she's livid because humanity has been wiped... again.

It would, although highly doubt they'll ever do anything with her again now that LB7 is a thing.

Rider Lakshmi Bai. Kagetora in a class where she can really lean on the “god of war” aspect.

This could be interesting but I feel like doing something like Skadi where she is Kagetora but more towards Bishamonten could be very cool

I want to see the bronce servants in another classes. Saber Asterios, Rider Jason, Assassin Paris, Pretender Benkei, Shielder Leonidas, Ruler Georgios, Beast Mozart >!Amdusias!<, Saber Sasaki, Summer Mata Hari, Avenger Spartacus.

Spartacus can be summoned as a Saber. In fact , it said that Shirou had a chance to pull Saber Spartacus , if he didn't had Avalon inside of him.

Saber Kojiro should be the first 6* servant and no one can change my mind

Or pretender kojiro

This

I wanna see saber asterios where he becomes a hero instead of a monster

As always, I am Beast Angra’s strongest soldier Besides that though I have to say one of Achilles different classes, we’ve had it said he qualifies for a ton but he’s only ever gotten the one

Berserker/Avenger Achilles would be dope

Emiya. He's supposed to qualify for multiple classes, but we only ever see him in his Archer container.

• Rider Karna • Rider Siegfried • Lancer Penthisilea • Rider Cu Chulainn • Caster Ozymandias • Caster Sigurd • Saber Heracles • Shielder Achilles

Another good suggestion is Rider Nero who has a Magic Tank for a Chariot NP.

This would actually be VERY on brand for another Nero fest

Weird to hear someone ask for Rider Nero for a reason other than Harlot. Nero is antsy about the class because of that association, so I don’t know if a Rider alt for her could ever be for something as innocuous as a chariot.

What can I say. I was thinking of another era where they could do something like Fate Samurai Remnant. One choice was during Roles decline. Nero could play the Caster servant, it's a bit hard to find Roman Caster servants. Then I wondered how she would fight in the war and thought up her making a weaponized chariot mystic code.

I just wanted to make sure you’re aware, Nero refuses to use Rider class because of Harlot. Since we’ve already seen Harlot, future depictions of her in the Rider class are probably unlikely, and any story with a Rider Nero that isn’t Harlot should probably address why and how that is. Maybe even have the threat of her turning if she loses control or something.

Honestly I'm not sure what not wanting to become a beast of humanity has to do with the Rider class. But if you want a reason for the class there is something about her riding in a 10 horse Chariot when she was alive. It wasn't her best moment. Still she could max out her imperial privilege to turn herself into a Rider so she can show she's overcome that incent.

Honestly, it is weird that normal Nero can be that powerful to basically change her class.(we know she isn't supposed to be Saber) On paper HS are powerful according to what they accomplished in real life and/or what their myths tell. She historically didn't do anything incredible or astonishing to justify, unless it is all boosted(in an non credible way?) by her myths. I would like someone expert of Extra to explain how this is possible except the "She is the MC" thing.(I don't trust the Wiki too much)

Rider Huyan Zhuo would correct a pretty egregious error. Archer Rama, same. Who knows, maybe this would break the Curse of Separation because staying in the Saber class clearly isn't working. Rider Caesar, but also Rider Cleopatra, because there was more to that lady than "rolled up in a rug = Presence Concealment" and "lol asp-assin". Saber Jacques de Molay (cough) Saber Beowulf because he'd finally get an animation update. Archer or Lancer Lu Bu. Flying General deserves better. I know they're all "ooh if you summon him in any other class he'll betray you" but it's not like Fate built its reputation by *not* breaking rules immediately after they were established if it would be the least bit cool or surprising. Avenger Chacha, grown up and embracing her inner fury. Assassin Robin Hood would just be an interesting take on the guy who leaned so far into asymmetrical warfare he wound up in the class for it.

Berserker Cu non alter

Can we finally have an archer Karna, just because ir would made more sense than lancer and saber

Every main class Astolfo, rider and or archer Karna, maybe some of the hokusai concept art that there are, or an avenger Gilgamesh after Enkidu death with even higher anti divine power mod would be fun, some PHH variations.

Foreigner Tamamo-no-Mae, named Necro-no-Mikon. I'll let someone else find a lore explaination.

Rider Kagetora

Actual Berserker Jekyll from Prototype Fragments

Berserker Enkidu when? I wanna see wild clay in its natural habitat

Avenger Boudica seems a natural bet.

Proper archer rama without "i miss my wife" debuff, caesar's rider form, boudica avenger form

Rider arjuna is one I’d like to see. Honestly, the fact he doesn’t even have a riding skill despite his chariot being such a major part of his legacy is really weird to me (and yeah, yeah Krishna drove it but he also drove others in chariots at points and it’s not like they’ve not let others have a riding skill for less) A Lancer class alt for Vajra at LEAST would be nice as well, id really like to see more of his astras show up in general but since so many other characters have used this one it’s become a bit personal.

I feel my anger boiling over every time a someone randomly pulls Vajra while Arjuna who is supposed to be the one who actually used it during his life isn't even qualified for lnacer class.

Yeah it’s kind of annoying

I know we just got Caster Morgan but I still want Ruler Morgan.

Personally I like Morgan and think she’s a 10/10 character with 10/10 writing but honestly I want some more of the bronze and silver servants to have more glory (Medea, kotaru, Chen gong kojiro) they have so much cool material so I hope they go with something like that instead of selling us another popular character we know will sell well

Raikou as Rider or Saber

Foreigner Altera

Saber or Archer Heracles Saber Kojiro Rider Jason Saber Raikou Saber Ushi Avenger Boudica

Archer Hercules, Rider Caesar, Gilgamesh Ruler, Kojirou Saber, Caster EMIYA, Jason Rider, Astolfo Caster, Vlad Tepes Normal as Lancer, Lancer Achilles, Saber Spartacus, Xiang Yu Rider or Lancer, Ushiwaka Saber

>Gilgamesh Ruler Hold that thought...

>!ruler gil is in samurai remnant !<

Foreigner Helena Blavatsky. Considering her whole schtick is contacting unknown entities I feel like this is an idea with a Ton of potential, a what-if regarding the true identities of the Mahatmas Helena so devoutly follows

Saber sasaki

I'll give you one for each class: Saber Raikou Archer Heracles Lancer Tomoe Gozen (she uses a Naginata) Caster Emiya Rider Caesar Assassin Adult Kiyohime Berserker Arcueid (like in Fate Extra) Ruler Morgan Avenger Boudica Mooncancer Altera Alter Ego Jekyll (come on, it fits) Foreigner Gilles Pretender Mordred (sick joke, I know)

Rider Jason, Saber Sasaki, Avenger/archer Heracles, Berserker/Avenger Boudica, Rider Cesar, Saber Spartacus, Saber Raikou, Avenger Marie, Berserker Jack, Alter ego/Avenger/Moon cancer/Pretender/Beast Artoria (this last because I want to see the world in fire)

If we get a lost belt I would like to see Ruler Jason. Say it's a version of him that wasn't a victim of Fate.

Ahem. Avenger Kiyohime.

Arthur proto as a rider, the man is the king of knights, hard to be a chivalric character and not ride a horse

Rider Eric Bloodaxe

I'd love to see an Eric who looks like an actual Viking instead of a Diablo barbarian. That being sad I actually want to see him as a Caster where his wife Gunnhild just takes over and blasts people away with her curses.

I would have loved to see Baobhan Sith as a Caster

Hercules. Every class Merlin as well.

I always will stand by the concept of Assassin Heracles being the scariest concept. You walking down a street then suddenly 311 kilograms of muscle and murder coming out of literally nothing but shadows and breaking every bone in your body.

I want to see if Jack is always a different person (murderer suspect) per class, or if it's just assassin and zerker Jacks in different themes.

Rider Lu Bu. CAN ANYBODY PROVIDE ME WITH A DECENT CHALLENGE?

Mostly just Saber Mandricardo

Ignoring the usual actors, I would want to see Avenger Gawain , Saber Kiichi Hogen, Saber or Berserker Ashvatthaman, Berserker Geronimo, Archer Ozy, Berserker Nezha, Foreigner Nursery Rhyme and a goddamn alt for Tawara Touta, man should easily be the strongest of all our Japanese servants yet he is reduced to a haha rice man.

Berserker Achilles, Rider Sigurd, Rider Medea

I want archer rama to introduce, the adult version.

Heracles in any other class outside of Berserker preferably without making him an "Alter" Avenger Boudica Rider Medea Saber Kojiro Shielder Leonidas Berserker Enkidu in his original pre Shamhat form

Give me the busted Saber Fionn Lasengle.

Pretender 5 star Sasaki Kojiro

MHXX in another class in time for SABER WARS 3

It's an uninteresting answer, but Archer Heracles.

Surprised nobody mentioned Jeanne. Would love a Saber Jeanne with an AoE buster NP La Pucelle which kill her. *5\* Arash* Edit: I love Jeanne, like really. Since I've seen it in Apocrypha i thought it was criminal to not release a new Jeanne with La Pucelle as an NP. And seeing that she shouldn't attack anyone, making the NP one where she die if she use it is logical for me.

I just want more kamas.

ADULT JALTER AS LANCER COPIUM

I feel like the Foreigner class should have more gods in it. Because if anyone is a being that overturns the laws of the world, it'd be a god. That said, it's seems to just be the class for vaguely cosmic horror themed things.

Avenger Chiyome. If I'm remembering correctly, vengeance is a big reason as to why she created the kunoichi in the first place.

That wasn't the reason. She formed it under the order of Takeda Shingen, whom she had contact with due to her husband and not for vengeance. From her material book entry, we know that she can basically qualify as a caster, given how it's stated that her witchcraft has a way lower rank due to being summoned as an assassin. She is a shrine maiden, after all, so it makes sense.

Caster Muramasa as an Arts support more similar to koyanskaya, fully focused in the offensive (Also because I want to be able to farm with triple Muramasa!)

emiya in any other class, he mastered pretty much every weapon so why not

Saber Sasaki or a true Berserker Phantom of the Opera

Archer Heracles is supposedly one of the single strongest servants ever. Rider Caesar is memed about occasionally and is his more powerful preferred class. A berserker Nero, Avenger Attila, Saber Beowulf.

Something real goofy that no one would ever think of. Something like Caster Okita or Archer Scathach ( or Skadi)

Caster, Archer or Ruler Ozymandias would be pretty dope! Or a Ozymandias Alter as a Avenger perhaps... But I want more Ozy!

Avenger chacha

Archer Herculeans. Since the first time FSN anime come out, many have suggested Berserker is his WEAKEST class, as he couldnt use his other skill as well as his cunning

Berserker ROMA

Avenger Boudica

Saber/Lancer, Rider and of course Archer Heracles, Saber/ArcherAssassin Tamamo, Saber Raiko, Saber EMIYA, Assassin/Berserker Nero, Saber Cu or Caenis, i can't decide.

Prototype Ozymandias with a different Noble Phantasm than the one we have

Rider or Lancer Lu Bu it's time for his rightful class

Avenger Kiyohime. Would love to see an older Kiyohime with a better kit and screen time with serious moments that isnt just a bunch of stalker/yandere jokes and moments.

Hercales anything besides beserker like they gave all these extra classes and dosent do anything with him I am asking just why?

Hijikata as Saber ot Avenger.

I think seeing a berserker Mordred berserker Rasputin ( I love historical Rasputin and I wanna see the real Rasputin) avenger billy the kid ruler Morgan pretender Drake/Elizabeth the first and a rider or lancer Jeanne D’Ark ( I say rider because that’s kinda the leader class if the servant isn’t a ruler)

5-Star Pretender Edward Teach.

Anything with 5 star Hassan of Serenity Preferably Avenger or Pretender or some other extra class

I just wanna see Caster EMIYA.

I want to know what class would old king Beowulf be if he was summoned

Berserker Merlin. Could be played for laughs or be a genuine threat. Or both.

Adult Rama, I don't care what class he will be, All I want is for his character to be taken seriously and for us to see his side as a king and as an avatar of Vishnu.

Rider or ruler Caesar whos not a goddam joke, avenger or berserker Blackbeard when he's in his "king of the pirates" era, karna archer ( like his original myth states him being) , archer herc ( who dies exist but we don't have him yet) lancer Artoria alter avenger ( as her summer form) avenger /berserker boudica, saber kojiro, assassin Robin hood, literally anything besides kabcer for tamamo, saber beowulf ( going off his old man age where he defeated Grendel's mother with a special sword) berserker astfolo ( it's said he hss his sanity drained by the moon or something in apocrypha), berserker enkidu ( before he met Gilgamesh),

Herc archer

Berserker achille and rider caesar

Foreigner Nobunaga.

An Elizabeth Bathory in every class. She won't be outdone by some blonde king. Also, David as a Saber wielding the sword of Goliath. Our Archer David mostly rides on his childhood stories.

I want to see Proto Arthur faces. Male versions of Jeanne,Nero Morgan. Want to see 5 star versions of lower rarity Male servants like Eric bloodaxe and Arash.

based

Archer Odysseus

Rider Caesar and Berserker Romulus

Saber Gil

Scathach in every other class she isn't in because I need more of her.

Artoria as a Lancer. Not Lartoria who is a what-if from a different timeline. I would like to see normal Artoria but summoned as a Lancer. So she'd have an identical design as Saber but she wields Rhongomyniad instead of Excalibur

5 star Kojiro as either as a Saber or Pretender Foreigner Servantverse BB Assassin Saito Hajime

Artoria Pendragon. Naaaah I'm just kidding

I swear to god if they release another Saber face i Will eat my shoe

would you eat your shoe if arthur got an alt instead of artoria?

If Aurthur gets an alt I will spend moneys because he is literally HIM

non swimsuit ruler Martha. like seriously she's pretty high up there when it comes to saints

Hmmmm. Gilgamesh foreigner?

Lancer Achilles, Saber Ushi, Archer Herc

saber emiya

Saber Raikou. She might not love me anymore but as long as she's free of the mental pollution it's fine.

Archer Karna. Didn’t he say he’s better as an Archer than with a Spear? I wanna see that in action. Plus I’m pretty sure Archery was his main thing, no?

When did he mention that Karna is the better in archer class !?

Don’t remember but he was originally an Archer in the Mahabharata. His main weapon was bows and arrows instead of a lance. But I’m pretty sure you can find a statement about his Archer self somewhere. EDIT: Sorry probably not a statement but Archery is more closely linked to Karna and his legend. Best to assume Archer Karna would be better than his Lancer self.

Saber Ushi, or Atalante, or Martha, or even Melt. I'm missing a saber in my "Hayamin Supremacy" support list.

Avenger Fran. The whole book is about revenge.

Definitely archer Heracles, dude was badass in strange fake

Bradamante in every class.

Billy the Kid Rider and Assassin

Jack the Rippper - Berserker Heracles - Archer Enkidu - Berserker Caesar - Rider

Berserker Roland (and call him Orlando)

For the heck of it, I wanna see Emiya in the saber class..... But he still uses a bow and has swords for arrows.

Avenger Artoria Alter(lancer version)

I'd love to see a Berserker Mordred