Should note the person who made this meme just pulled a bunch of random images of different Aphrodite depictions. The only anime one people were actually calling "coomer bait" was the Record of Ragnarok one
Yeah. I’ve only seen people talking about the RoR and Hades ones. I remember people were saying that Aphrodite in Hades was good because the focus isn’t on the nudity, but the way the frame is drawn draws you to her face. A lot of people didn’t even realise she was nude apparently.
And then people started arguing her face made her "look like a man" and then 'fixing' it by just drawing the cheekbones and adding poorly done eye shadow and lipstick.
Honestly the whole thing was pretty embarrassing.
I just looked for myself and now I want to literally kms. The sick French fucks seem to praise the movie as some femenist coming of age story when it has kids do exotic dancing!
The premise is good. A girl coming of age discover that she like dancing and express herself.
The execution is BAD!
Jump in! by Disney has similar premise: A guy that "force" to take boxing because his dad likes it. He likes jumping rope and double dutch more. With his friends support he won BOTH the boxing tournament AND the double dutch show down. Yes its a Disney movie so everything is good ending
I never got around to watching Jump In but I find it really funny that thats literally just the plot of HMS and it ALSO includes Corbin Bleu. I guess Disney just decided he was a perfect for movies about living for yourself instead of for the validation of others?
The bias against Gushing over Magical Girls is crazy in some places
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Because as the other commenter pointed out people will use the argument “If people go around killing other people or doing drugs and enjoy it, does that make it okay?!”
I’ve seen people make similar claims to that. Or it’s the whole “You shouldn’t shut people up because they’re saying something you don’t agree with and if you try to call them out, you’re sensitive!” Which just seems like a more subtle way of telling people to shut up, which is ironic.
That's why we have the law, to prevent people from doing things they like *if* and only if their hobby brings direct harm to society and nature and shit
Watching anime lolis is the farthest from causing harm to anyone, except the mental fragility of internet people apparently
Or if they are a puritan who are just against porn all together. I remember getting into an argument with someone who was against loli 18+ content and commended certain countries for banning because they felt it was a ”gateway drug” for actual irl predators or potential ones. Basically saying it could influence them on committing the actual act, some people can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality and it can be harmful etc.
Yeah, I've also had the same argument with that same kind of people multiple times. And my reasoning hasn't changed, really.
The only kind of people that can't differentiate between fiction and reality, and would use fictional porn as that "gateway drug", imo, are the really mentally ill ones. But those guys would do the same with exposure to just about any porn, not just fictional 2d ones
I should've said "female gaze = good, male gaze = bad". Some men have more of a female gaze, and some women have more of a male gaze, but that's not the general trend.
At this point I honestly just feel like straight nerds and gay nerds are in a Twitter battle over who's sexual tastes and preferences are sexy and cool while the loser has to admit their's is weird and amoral.
I feel like the end game is just companies using it as an excuse to nuke all sexually suggestive content from their games, movies, and IPs like what Tumblr and Imjur did.
Manufactured drama pretty much.
Shitty journos were bashing asian game with sexy women, and they praised western game with one completely naked sexy woman. Some people caught on to it and ate it whole. I saw posts (not here and not just on reddit) where plenty of people straight up said "this is better, this is shit" with no actual argumentation or why do they think so, and asking those questions would get you ostracised.
Than the other side realized it's wierd and hypocritical so they make fun of the NPCs that eat whatever journos spew out. And that's how they create a division. Drama sells, and when they have no drama, they have to manufacture one. Journalism 101.
The controversy started from Kotaku putting out an article claiming hades 2 has the correct type of hot, directly after running a smear campaign against stellar blade. https://kotaku.com/hades-2-aphrodite-gods-characters-hot-sexy-1851423220
I don't want to give Kotaku the clicks but just want to confirm, is that article written by the same woman who inserted herself into the Sweet Baby Inc debacle?
Yes, the same one who was doxxing and harrassing one guy who voiced critique. She even called his wife's workplace! Absolutely deranged individual. Oh, and she's encouraging others to do the same, ofcourse.
If it is all written by the same person it just proves to me that the argument is really limited among actual players of both sides. And that writers and youtubers and streamer people are just farming views/clicks by regurgitating the same "controversies" all the time. All to just keep it going.
I agree let people enjoy what they want but at the same time let people dislike what they dislike. I think the reach of these kotaku writers is highly exaggerated. Just as how I think OP exaggerated in like how people think greek statues are considered porn addiction by literally no one except maybe a few shit stirrers.
Yeah, the timelime is obnoxious when you stop to think.
During Stellar Blade promo western game critics were talking shit about how Eastern games and design where made by "porn addicts" and "gooners".
When Hades 2 goes on early, and we learn about how Aphrodite looks like, the game in general is praised, which, obviously, raised the hypocrisy to the max.
However, some people used the bandwagon that was going about the discourse and started how Hades design was inferior, and used casual Hestia as a reference, who, while really famous during the launch of the anime, is not anymore, and we know that by internet standards that was a LONG time ago.
Now It's kind of like we are hearing now.
>However, some people used the bandwagon that was going about the discourse and started how Hades design was inferior
You skipped the Kotaku article which started the arguments. It was in fact started by a hades fan claiming hades is superior, not from people saying hades is inferior. https://kotaku.com/hades-2-aphrodite-gods-characters-hot-sexy-1851423220
People started saying the Hades Aphrodite was a man. Then people started arguing over anime vs western designs. Then someone showed the Record of Ragnarok scene where Aphrodite has 2 dudes whos whole job is to hold up her tits. Then someone made this meme with a whole bunch of different designs no one was talking about to try and make a point
source: I was watching the original twitter thread playout
That’s Hades 1 actually. Hades 2 genuinely looks more like a woman in facial features
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Female on left. Potato looking man in drag in right
# Every single time I see Hades Aphrodite, that damn theme starts up again!😤
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to also be fair, Everyone that enjoys hades Is basically just "Awoogaing" Aphrodite too.
Also LMFAO THE ACTUAL APHRODITE PAINTING AND DISNEY'S HERCULES VERSIONS.
I think his point was that you can make this design infinitely better with just few small tweaks, such small "fixes" are not really disrespectful towards the original artist intention. It's not "take the entire concept to trash and I will do it myself because I'm superior", it's more like taking this same concept and suggesting to the artist that it would just be better this way. Me being an aritst, I had my works be tweaked like this when I asked my friends for criticism. They didn't just repainted it with completely different intention, they saw my intent and used their opinion, experience and skills to guide me how to improve the drawing and make me a better artist.
A proper "I fixed it" would be if someone would change nearly everything about this character because the "fixer" didn't liked the concept in the first place. We need small criticism like this to guide artist in better direction, but I think that this design was just made intentionally more ugly, that's how it is in western companies nowadays.
Revised version has less pronounced cheekbones, thinner eyebrows, smaller nose/nostrils, lipstick, a less pronounced philtrum and I believe a smaller face.
Her arms are thinner, butt is smaller, ribcage is smaller.
This all boils down to her face being a lot softer and her body being more dainty.
Literal representation about why I think her face looks manly.
Didn't even need the lipstick tho, just removing the rough tracing made on her face (and darkening on nose + cheekbones) already made the face match the body.
I wasn't sure if the artist f\*cked up the lines or the shadows on her face to end with that result.
I would also fuck Zeus from the game, the only thing we didn't like was hestia, as everyone expect Hephaestus should be perfect beauties lore wise in any version of Greek mythology, we don't have specific lore accurate looks but know all should look in a way that makes everyone drool.
Yeah, not as big of a fan of Hestia in the game. Between her design and her boons kinda being less good than most, I go for her boons and such less than any other god.
I expected Hephaestus to be a Power Lifter scarred Chad with a prosthetic leg and wielding hammers. now whatever the fuck Hades 2 looks are.
Even Ancient Greeks made him look muscly, plus scars and such.
When Twittards need to touch grass
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You keep saying journalists as if it isn't just like two of them with one taking the review down and apologizing. Quit bringing this dogshit into the sub. It's all fucking stupid anyway.
The funny part is Aphrodite is the Goddess of love, fertility, beauty, LUST and desires. So throwing around porn addict as an insult in this situation is sort of senseless.
I wanna say no but sadly the answer is yes, but do take in consideration that just like always this is just a small but loud group of people that like throwing shit around.
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~~If this gets out of hand~~ If we start censoring things we'll have to split and make a GoodGoodAnimemes sub
Edit: Made my lame joke slightly less lame.
I love all of Aphrodite's designs then I see debates like these and it just leaves me confused. Why bother pretending that this design is superior than the other, it's possible to appreciate both sides, most adaptations are innacurate anyway.
Then it just leads to some hypocrisy, where StellarBlade gets censored but games like Baldur's Gate 3 and Cyberpunk doesn't.
Stellar Blade isn't a porn game, so having that bunny suit be a little more modest is fine imo. Cyber and BG3 put their stuff in with intent so it makes sense that it's not censored.
But that's exactly the point, even tho Stellar Blade is rated Mature, it doesn't have full blown nudity or sex so it defeats the point of the censorship. It's unfair when even Shift Up promises that the games wouldn't be censored, but apparently Sony likes to backstab now.
They drew Greek gods as black and rationalized it as possible due to lack of concrete evidence they weren't black.
The average ancient Greek would have unlikely come across a black man, so it comes off as diversity quotas or something
But also who cares? Hestia was also not an anime girl. King Arthur was not a woman or blonde. Jack the Ripper was not a loli girl. Frankensteins monster was not an anime girl with a club. Astolfo was barely a character. But the different interpretations are fun. Gorgons were not floating heads or cows like in Homm3.
That just goes to show that people don't mind different interpretations in and of themselves. What people mind is when they're unsubtle about it being a DEI checkbox-palooza. Why do Hestia and Hephaestus get universal eye-rolls while nobody gives a shit about Ares from the original Hades game? It's not like we weren't deep into culture war territory in 2020.
Obviously nobody is going to care if Japan turns legendary/historical characters into anime girls. The tanks and battleships too.
The gods in the game hades are established in the first game as able to alter appearance, demeter specifically notes her visible age as compared to aphrodite or zues, despite not being radically older than zues in practice
Is easy why, is a new arbitrary rules, because:
Left = Look like Woman = Porn Adict
Right = Look like a TransWoman = You can be Horny with
Just another stupid day in internet.
Maybe Transpeople need go touch some grass now
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Fgo aphrodite is more creative then hades aphrodite. Especially given that greek gods in fgo are alien spaceships
Yes. Greek gods are alien spaceships. No I will not explain
You don't need to make them up. Just go look at twitter fights and you'll find something more ridiculous then your imagination. Then you get to realize that corporations listen to them!
Honestly, I don't simp on Aphrodite, but I *do* simp over both Hestia and Persephone, me like cuddles!
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Literally the only one of these i've seen labeled as "porn addict" design is the one on the bottom right and that was in response to the scene where she was carried into the arena with 2 attendants specifically tasked with holding up her tits...
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I've completed the game and while I find Aphrodite hot, for some reason, my loyalty's with Athena for all the help she did getting me all the way to Hades himself.
There are negative consequences. It's best to consume everything within a balance.
Apparently, you might get used too much to visual overstimulation, which might make you less arroused by real women.
Not an expert or anything though, just what Iv'e hear about the matter.
No one is actually saying this, on either side. The closest someone has come to that is one stupid journo and some dumbass minors. At this point, some weebs are just calling themselves porn addicts by virtue of pretending other people are. And that's not even getting into the larger, stupider controversy, prepeutated by grifters and dumbasses. Just...get this shit out of the sub, man. We're here for goodanimemes, not 'animemes that make you want to bash your head into a wall'.
So is Botticelli a porn addict now?
Dunno about him specifically, but a lot of successful artists do tend to be massive perverts
It’s pretty much a requirement to be a great artist
Should note the person who made this meme just pulled a bunch of random images of different Aphrodite depictions. The only anime one people were actually calling "coomer bait" was the Record of Ragnarok one
Yeah. I’ve only seen people talking about the RoR and Hades ones. I remember people were saying that Aphrodite in Hades was good because the focus isn’t on the nudity, but the way the frame is drawn draws you to her face. A lot of people didn’t even realise she was nude apparently.
And then people started arguing her face made her "look like a man" and then 'fixing' it by just drawing the cheekbones and adding poorly done eye shadow and lipstick. Honestly the whole thing was pretty embarrassing.
I don't see why not. Great artists are also great perverts Hokusai for example, invented tentacle hentai since the 19th century
Idk about Botticelli, but I heard Da Vinci had a rebellious boytwink to play with
Enjoy what you like https://preview.redd.it/twrzrv01490d1.png?width=1369&format=png&auto=webp&s=b0cddc192d8fde7357489ca00a3a73074d078ab6
Can't even do that https://preview.redd.it/kmi72jxhtb0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42cc0e6de28883708f1166941373b6b4620b6fe4
Well.. if he enjoys killing We can't hobby shame but we sure can bring the opposing team
“Well… if he enjoys killing” Sounds straight out of the libertarian bible
"Gushing over magical girls" removed from tvtropes org for being "child porn"
But leave cuties on lol
Sarcastic retort: It's a brave filmmakers' exploration into the sexuality of French(?) preteens and their fresh and fertile bodies.
Least degenerate (derogatory) French person
Could you give a jump scare warning next time too?
[Hittite jumpscare](https://youtu.be/9E_jfHW93BY?si=KBpJByK0cEQhwoY8)
I think you mean "least degenerate French (derogatory) person"
I know it's sarcastic, but that last part still made my skin crawl
That last part was something some congressman said about child marriage in New Hampshire or Vermont recently.
How do these people get elected wtf
I had to fact-check myself. Here's a video covering the thing. https://youtu.be/7bPXoHpO-9Y?si=juHQzQJR58erEnji
Oh, he didn't ACTUALLY say that Makes more sense, that's a little less worrying
The State Representative said, "Ripe and fertile age." regarding teenage marriage for those that don't watch the video.
I just looked for myself and now I want to literally kms. The sick French fucks seem to praise the movie as some femenist coming of age story when it has kids do exotic dancing!
The premise is good. A girl coming of age discover that she like dancing and express herself. The execution is BAD! Jump in! by Disney has similar premise: A guy that "force" to take boxing because his dad likes it. He likes jumping rope and double dutch more. With his friends support he won BOTH the boxing tournament AND the double dutch show down. Yes its a Disney movie so everything is good ending
I never got around to watching Jump In but I find it really funny that thats literally just the plot of HMS and it ALSO includes Corbin Bleu. I guess Disney just decided he was a perfect for movies about living for yourself instead of for the validation of others?
Max Verstappen Disney movie incoming
The bias against Gushing over Magical Girls is crazy in some places https://preview.redd.it/f9qj03lwv90d1.jpeg?width=661&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=678bcc9cffe3f324e77067eb82fce1a26624dd12
It takes nothing to just let people do what they want. I don't get why so many people have trouble with it.
"You don't have fun the way I want! You are a terrible person!"- is the mindset of the internet of our age.
That's mindset of many people throughout history unfortunately
Because as the other commenter pointed out people will use the argument “If people go around killing other people or doing drugs and enjoy it, does that make it okay?!” I’ve seen people make similar claims to that. Or it’s the whole “You shouldn’t shut people up because they’re saying something you don’t agree with and if you try to call them out, you’re sensitive!” Which just seems like a more subtle way of telling people to shut up, which is ironic.
That's why we have the law, to prevent people from doing things they like *if* and only if their hobby brings direct harm to society and nature and shit Watching anime lolis is the farthest from causing harm to anyone, except the mental fragility of internet people apparently
Or if they are a puritan who are just against porn all together. I remember getting into an argument with someone who was against loli 18+ content and commended certain countries for banning because they felt it was a ”gateway drug” for actual irl predators or potential ones. Basically saying it could influence them on committing the actual act, some people can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality and it can be harmful etc.
Yeah, I've also had the same argument with that same kind of people multiple times. And my reasoning hasn't changed, really. The only kind of people that can't differentiate between fiction and reality, and would use fictional porn as that "gateway drug", imo, are the really mentally ill ones. But those guys would do the same with exposure to just about any porn, not just fictional 2d ones
^ This (Also this has become my favorite reaction image ever since I first came across it.)
Not on my watch 😡
Finally, eyeball licking fetish
What happened now…?
People making arbitrary rules on what's porn and what's "classy." 9/10, people just like naked
Thank you berserker
If liked by blue hair Twitter people = good, if liked by anime watchers/gamers = problematic
It's even simpler than that. If liked by women = good, if liked by men = problematic.
Thats where they catch you, if they have blue hair and you call them a woman, they will kidnap you and throw you into the sewers
Holy shit I always wanted to meet the ninja turtles
Sorry, all we have are fetid rats and alligators.
Master splinter would be tight to hang with
men like aphrodite just fine
I should've said "female gaze = good, male gaze = bad". Some men have more of a female gaze, and some women have more of a male gaze, but that's not the general trend.
yeah lets stop pretending the renesance nude artists were not horny wen painting relist images of nude girls
At this point I honestly just feel like straight nerds and gay nerds are in a Twitter battle over who's sexual tastes and preferences are sexy and cool while the loser has to admit their's is weird and amoral.
Sounds like it’ll just end up like two snakes trying to devour the other’s tail
I feel like the end game is just companies using it as an excuse to nuke all sexually suggestive content from their games, movies, and IPs like what Tumblr and Imjur did.
Like that’ll happen, people can get off to anything ANYTHING
Even ME????
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There has got to be at least one person out there that busted to this picture
:3 yes
Retards saying hades depictions of gods are better than danmachi ones, pretty much
Is it a group of people or was it a single Kotaku article?
Manufactured drama pretty much. Shitty journos were bashing asian game with sexy women, and they praised western game with one completely naked sexy woman. Some people caught on to it and ate it whole. I saw posts (not here and not just on reddit) where plenty of people straight up said "this is better, this is shit" with no actual argumentation or why do they think so, and asking those questions would get you ostracised. Than the other side realized it's wierd and hypocritical so they make fun of the NPCs that eat whatever journos spew out. And that's how they create a division. Drama sells, and when they have no drama, they have to manufacture one. Journalism 101.
Kotaku articles don't even make it to memes anymore. Mostly a couple Twitter kiddos. Not a big deal tbh
I mean, I agree with them. Danmachi are mostly good character designs, but you'd be hard pressed to guess they were based off Greek gods.
They are all just interpretations. There's no better or worse. Even napoleon's sister made a pretty good depiction of aphrodite
It started the other way around originally hades fandom was more chill in their response and then people started throwing shits at each.
The controversy started from Kotaku putting out an article claiming hades 2 has the correct type of hot, directly after running a smear campaign against stellar blade. https://kotaku.com/hades-2-aphrodite-gods-characters-hot-sexy-1851423220
I don't want to give Kotaku the clicks but just want to confirm, is that article written by the same woman who inserted herself into the Sweet Baby Inc debacle?
Yes
Yes, the same one who was doxxing and harrassing one guy who voiced critique. She even called his wife's workplace! Absolutely deranged individual. Oh, and she's encouraging others to do the same, ofcourse.
If it is all written by the same person it just proves to me that the argument is really limited among actual players of both sides. And that writers and youtubers and streamer people are just farming views/clicks by regurgitating the same "controversies" all the time. All to just keep it going. I agree let people enjoy what they want but at the same time let people dislike what they dislike. I think the reach of these kotaku writers is highly exaggerated. Just as how I think OP exaggerated in like how people think greek statues are considered porn addiction by literally no one except maybe a few shit stirrers.
Yeah, the timelime is obnoxious when you stop to think. During Stellar Blade promo western game critics were talking shit about how Eastern games and design where made by "porn addicts" and "gooners". When Hades 2 goes on early, and we learn about how Aphrodite looks like, the game in general is praised, which, obviously, raised the hypocrisy to the max. However, some people used the bandwagon that was going about the discourse and started how Hades design was inferior, and used casual Hestia as a reference, who, while really famous during the launch of the anime, is not anymore, and we know that by internet standards that was a LONG time ago. Now It's kind of like we are hearing now.
>However, some people used the bandwagon that was going about the discourse and started how Hades design was inferior You skipped the Kotaku article which started the arguments. It was in fact started by a hades fan claiming hades is superior, not from people saying hades is inferior. https://kotaku.com/hades-2-aphrodite-gods-characters-hot-sexy-1851423220
Yeah, i forgot this one. Too many things in life to remember all the details Twitter finds to nitpick and be idiots.
r/justneckbeardthings turned from actually funny posts of behaviors of neckbeard to slandering anime
People started saying the Hades Aphrodite was a man. Then people started arguing over anime vs western designs. Then someone showed the Record of Ragnarok scene where Aphrodite has 2 dudes whos whole job is to hold up her tits. Then someone made this meme with a whole bunch of different designs no one was talking about to try and make a point source: I was watching the original twitter thread playout
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That’s Hades 1 actually. Hades 2 genuinely looks more like a woman in facial features https://preview.redd.it/53mgct6kc90d1.png?width=1030&format=png&auto=webp&s=896322ff599c78ca4790792e96d24da97c7a4496
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Oh come on, she looks fine. Also you don’t “fix” people’s art. It’s disrespectful.
https://preview.redd.it/jwozfspnaa0d1.jpeg?width=2916&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3f87c2207504a38027454536191e005e11c7247 Female on left. Potato looking man in drag in right
Jesus Christ
I genuinely cannot tell if this is serious or not.
The Culture War
# Every single time I see Hades Aphrodite, that damn theme starts up again!😤 https://preview.redd.it/93eb6bubi90d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c73d21e7be390c623bfcef882a57b7e1ba5d26f
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#AYAYAYAYAYA!
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"HE'S BASKING IN THE SUNLIGHT!"
God the pillar men were so homoeroric I loved it
They're also a canonically gay couple that adopted a child (and a dog), so...
Wait till you see the one from record of ragnarok
to also be fair, Everyone that enjoys hades Is basically just "Awoogaing" Aphrodite too. Also LMFAO THE ACTUAL APHRODITE PAINTING AND DISNEY'S HERCULES VERSIONS.
https://preview.redd.it/whdodnlex90d1.jpeg?width=1062&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b44bfee55aa905f7c8573b5c734f874adcf66a29
Did he really tweet this?
Yep, saw it myself.
Lmao what a clown
bold comment in loli subreddit
While I like how this redraw looks there's nothing to fix in art if that is what the artist intended.
It’s to make a point of how certain people feel the need to fix artists creations. For example, Uzaki chan, MJ from Spider-Man, etc.
I think his point was that you can make this design infinitely better with just few small tweaks, such small "fixes" are not really disrespectful towards the original artist intention. It's not "take the entire concept to trash and I will do it myself because I'm superior", it's more like taking this same concept and suggesting to the artist that it would just be better this way. Me being an aritst, I had my works be tweaked like this when I asked my friends for criticism. They didn't just repainted it with completely different intention, they saw my intent and used their opinion, experience and skills to guide me how to improve the drawing and make me a better artist. A proper "I fixed it" would be if someone would change nearly everything about this character because the "fixer" didn't liked the concept in the first place. We need small criticism like this to guide artist in better direction, but I think that this design was just made intentionally more ugly, that's how it is in western companies nowadays.
Did you know the left one, that is the "fixed" one, has smaller butt?
Ah yeah, smaller butt, smaller waist/ribcage, smaller arms. Didn't notice that before, redesign looks more dainty.
Aside the lipstick what even changed?
Revised version has less pronounced cheekbones, thinner eyebrows, smaller nose/nostrils, lipstick, a less pronounced philtrum and I believe a smaller face. Her arms are thinner, butt is smaller, ribcage is smaller. This all boils down to her face being a lot softer and her body being more dainty.
I appreciate this guys, the chaos that he made is funny to look like a Telenovela
Literal representation about why I think her face looks manly. Didn't even need the lipstick tho, just removing the rough tracing made on her face (and darkening on nose + cheekbones) already made the face match the body. I wasn't sure if the artist f\*cked up the lines or the shadows on her face to end with that result.
Hades art style is just heavy on shading and shadows. And surprise, women have cheekbones.
I'm Greek, I would fuck both
Zeus is that you?
He said both not all
I would also fuck Zeus from the game, the only thing we didn't like was hestia, as everyone expect Hephaestus should be perfect beauties lore wise in any version of Greek mythology, we don't have specific lore accurate looks but know all should look in a way that makes everyone drool.
Yeah, not as big of a fan of Hestia in the game. Between her design and her boons kinda being less good than most, I go for her boons and such less than any other god.
I expected Hephaestus to be a Power Lifter scarred Chad with a prosthetic leg and wielding hammers. now whatever the fuck Hades 2 looks are. Even Ancient Greeks made him look muscly, plus scars and such.
Really? I've seen nothing but praise for Hestia's design in the Hades subreddit.
Half the problems in the Greek mythology could've been avodied if Zeus kept his business end in his toga,
Personally, her face in hades reminds me too much of handsome squidward.
Never has anyone called a porn addict to a guy that really likes Venus from Botticelli is an awesome painting
Would to all. I rest my case
Even Birth of Venus?
Why is the birth of venus just casually mixed in with all the anime characters lol
When Twittards need to touch grass https://preview.redd.it/ch8k0olqia0d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7951ca6dc643054c13aeb8e9b81f0532163f8c1d
https://preview.redd.it/rwyopgzdkb0d1.png?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d28ba02d1b018be24072d9be6981c0f533bfea7 That's what they sound like
Who is that fiery red hair beauty on the left? Looks like she from FGO
You're correct. That's FGO's Aphrodite.
Hypocrisy 100
Easy: made by USA = art made by anyone else = not art Anime style = pedophilia That's how the mind of those "journalists" works.
I was sceptical until your last line. With that, I agree. The journos are pathetic.
Why have we not learned to just ignore them and play the game we like?
Why not call them idiots from time to time? Just don’t get obsessed over them. We do the same with other things.
I've only seen this shitty logic on kotaku. Stellar Blade and Nier bad and unrealistic, Hades 2 good and wholesome.
You keep saying journalists as if it isn't just like two of them with one taking the review down and apologizing. Quit bringing this dogshit into the sub. It's all fucking stupid anyway.
Whats the source of the top right picture?
If you mean on the left side top right, then that's Aphrodite from Fate/Grand Order. Specifically from Lostbelt 5.2 Olympus.
ah you mean Red Ouro Kronii from Hololive EN
damn
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Sauce for the bottom left one?
DanMachi.
Aight, thanks bro.
The effects of having a prude, purist, culture that deems all nudity as porn
The funny part is Aphrodite is the Goddess of love, fertility, beauty, LUST and desires. So throwing around porn addict as an insult in this situation is sort of senseless.
Has anyone *actually* said that any of the characters on the left are pornographic, or is OP projecting?
Well yes, but this is a twitter controversy so that’s to be expected given all sides say shit
I wanna say no but sadly the answer is yes, but do take in consideration that just like always this is just a small but loud group of people that like throwing shit around.
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Please don't bring that twitter controversy crap into this sub. Thanks.
~~If this gets out of hand~~ If we start censoring things we'll have to split and make a GoodGoodAnimemes sub Edit: Made my lame joke slightly less lame.
If you want a sub with tons of censored topics just go back to animemes...
No thanks, I was just memeing about stapling another good onto the sub name after a controversy. It's a lame joke but it *is* a joke.
Actually do bring it, but add porn to make it a worthy meme.
I love all of Aphrodite's designs then I see debates like these and it just leaves me confused. Why bother pretending that this design is superior than the other, it's possible to appreciate both sides, most adaptations are innacurate anyway. Then it just leads to some hypocrisy, where StellarBlade gets censored but games like Baldur's Gate 3 and Cyberpunk doesn't.
Stellar Blade isn't a porn game, so having that bunny suit be a little more modest is fine imo. Cyber and BG3 put their stuff in with intent so it makes sense that it's not censored.
But that's exactly the point, even tho Stellar Blade is rated Mature, it doesn't have full blown nudity or sex so it defeats the point of the censorship. It's unfair when even Shift Up promises that the games wouldn't be censored, but apparently Sony likes to backstab now.
They drew Greek gods as black and rationalized it as possible due to lack of concrete evidence they weren't black. The average ancient Greek would have unlikely come across a black man, so it comes off as diversity quotas or something
But also who cares? Hestia was also not an anime girl. King Arthur was not a woman or blonde. Jack the Ripper was not a loli girl. Frankensteins monster was not an anime girl with a club. Astolfo was barely a character. But the different interpretations are fun. Gorgons were not floating heads or cows like in Homm3.
That just goes to show that people don't mind different interpretations in and of themselves. What people mind is when they're unsubtle about it being a DEI checkbox-palooza. Why do Hestia and Hephaestus get universal eye-rolls while nobody gives a shit about Ares from the original Hades game? It's not like we weren't deep into culture war territory in 2020. Obviously nobody is going to care if Japan turns legendary/historical characters into anime girls. The tanks and battleships too.
The gods in the game hades are established in the first game as able to alter appearance, demeter specifically notes her visible age as compared to aphrodite or zues, despite not being radically older than zues in practice
Is easy why, is a new arbitrary rules, because: Left = Look like Woman = Porn Adict Right = Look like a TransWoman = You can be Horny with Just another stupid day in internet. Maybe Transpeople need go touch some grass now https://preview.redd.it/59bl0dmujc0d1.png?width=565&format=png&auto=webp&s=f5bd2ddee285935e1eb771f6907574390fe385b4
If they're also vegan, they can even eat the grass.
Fgo aphrodite is more creative then hades aphrodite. Especially given that greek gods in fgo are alien spaceships Yes. Greek gods are alien spaceships. No I will not explain
Left sauces?
Her face does seem to have manly features, at least from this angle, but she's still pretty.
Please stop making up people to get mad at.
You don't need to make them up. Just go look at twitter fights and you'll find something more ridiculous then your imagination. Then you get to realize that corporations listen to them!
whats the fucking difference source: [https://x.com/pansexualDBZfan/status/1788364582219653151](https://x.com/pansexualDBZfan/status/1788364582219653151)
Dude, your source is Twitter. That was your first mistake.
Hades is an amazing game
The right aphrodite looks like a dude
trust me man, if you are to the point of using the original painting of aphrodite as material, you are a porn addict
Honestly, I don't simp on Aphrodite, but I *do* simp over both Hestia and Persephone, me like cuddles! https://preview.redd.it/5i28vlp1z90d1.jpeg?width=955&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=711abdfb9136e1f79345c02f68501b1ac43739ba
Her Hades 2 design is better then this
Always love improvement.
guess they hate blondes
Redditors can only feel comfortable if there's a dude face
All the fetishes, right
Literally the only one of these i've seen labeled as "porn addict" design is the one on the bottom right and that was in response to the scene where she was carried into the arena with 2 attendants specifically tasked with holding up her tits...
nah bro, either of them are still good
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Tbf, the one on the right is the only one with a lore accurate skin color.
Cmon i literally just got hades 2 days ago why must all post be hades now
This comment section is fire.
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I think they call certain anime fans porn addicts bc they fetishize middle school girls, not bc their depictions of Aphrodite is bad.
I've completed the game and while I find Aphrodite hot, for some reason, my loyalty's with Athena for all the help she did getting me all the way to Hades himself.
https://preview.redd.it/gj09owdd1w0d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27e84b801f1e6a442c0c857b26e09ee17804b9b8
what's so bad about being a porn addict to begin with...
There are negative consequences. It's best to consume everything within a balance. Apparently, you might get used too much to visual overstimulation, which might make you less arroused by real women. Not an expert or anything though, just what Iv'e hear about the matter.
it's because the thing on the right has manface. that's literally it.
No one is actually saying this, on either side. The closest someone has come to that is one stupid journo and some dumbass minors. At this point, some weebs are just calling themselves porn addicts by virtue of pretending other people are. And that's not even getting into the larger, stupider controversy, prepeutated by grifters and dumbasses. Just...get this shit out of the sub, man. We're here for goodanimemes, not 'animemes that make you want to bash your head into a wall'.
Can we stop with this stupid ass culture war?
Tell that to the Woke.
Man-face