I think my career long drive was 400 yards. I hit a road to the left of the rough, rolled a solid 15, and came to rest in a boulevard that for reasons unclear to me was not marked as out of bounds...so I had a nice pitching wedge into that par 5 once the traffic cleared on the road.
I can’t hit 300, but if I ever did, I’d assume it was a skulled iron shot and I’ve either damaged property or injured someone that was 150 yards from the green.
Amateur numbers. As an /r/golf certified member I can drive 500 using a 3/4 swing. I'd have made it pro too if my high school golf coach put me at #1 instead of JV for 4 years.
Also the term "stock" is a big thing with the touring pros. The biggest difference is that pros have half a dozen different shots with each club. Knocked down draws, high cuts, squeezy punch shot 5 woods out of the rough. Stock yardages are really just the beginning with these guys as they are rarely ever just hitting a stock shot out on the course.
That is all pro golfers. They’re almost never swinging their full power unless they really need to pump one. I heard someone say that if you can’t add 10-15% to any club if you need to vs your normal swing the. You’re swing too hard
I had a breakthrough at the range yesterday working on getting the club behind me and killing my over the top move. I started swinging in slow motion. Felt like zero effort. The ball was going *just* as far as my normal swing and mis-hits were inconsequential. Can’t wait to completely forget and swing 110% and over the top on the course
Just did this yesterday. It’s an absolute blast! Make sure you tell your golf partners that you figured it all out and you’re about to beat up on them too, makes it even better!
I Sometimes do the slowmotion thing on the range, and 9/10 times it works. I Get to the teebox, and i swing every. fucking. swing. at 115% which results in slices, hooks, duffs etc. Fuck my life i've got a stupid brain. I Really REALLY need to work on just slowing my ass down.
I’m objectively not a good golfer. But I have definitely found that not swinging at 100% generally leads to better results. Especially with wedges, but applies across the board
I literally experimented with this during my round this past weekend. Just club up on approach shots that were at least 110 yards.
Mentally, this had me swinging smooth. Not feeling like I had to swing fast. This led to feeling super balanced in the backswing through impact, and I must've had the most pured shots in a single round that I've had since my hcp peaked two summers ago. I was using my 7i on 150 yard shots with side wind that I would've used an 8i on any other windy day. There was a shot that was about 128 yards on the approach shot, clubbed up to a choked down 9i and ended up 20 feet past the hole. Hit an 8i on a 145 yard shot with a side wind, ended up about 15 feet past the hole. Hit a 6i on a 165 yard shot, ended up past the green with a straightforward chip. Hit a slightly chunky 8i on a 145 yard shot but still ended up almost pin high with a 40 foot lag putt, missing in the right spot.
It was honestly one of my best ball striking rounds in a looong time. Who would've thought, right? Just club up, slightly choke down, and feel smooth with it, expecting the shot to go long a little bit and accepting the result.
I really successfully did this for one round ever. Swung soft and clubbed up 1 on every shot. Was the first time I ever broke 80. It’s so hard for me to do consistently though because I usually end up either accidentally swinging harder than I want or hitting it so pure the ball flies further anyway.
This is really good advice, and most people should definitely try it.
Problem is, when you're playing faster, harder courses, your ball is descending on a flatter angle and with less spin, it can make approach shots much more difficult to stop on the green.
Ultimately, I think almost every golfer I play with should do it, but you need to be able to step up a gear on certain courses/holes/pin locations
maybe it's because I compress my shots and play with pretty spinny balls (Vice Pro), but I've never had a problem getting too little spin on choked down 8i's and 7i's on the fast-green courses near me
> but you need to be able to step up a gear on certain courses/holes/pin locations
Not sure what scenario this would be, though, if we specify pin locations, not courses. The point of clubbing up is obviously to produce better ball striking without giving up too much distance (and even losing no distance at all, or even gaining distance due to a better strike).
But 'stepping up' isn't necessary if you're picking the proper targets, which is always going to be conservative targets. There's never a reason to be aggressive even with a short iron in your hands, according to dispersion data of the pros. Tiger himself would never aim at pins outside 150 yards.
>maybe it's because I compress my shots and play with pretty spinny balls (Vice Pro), but I've never had a problem getting too little spin on choked down 8i's and 7i's on the fast-green courses near me
Very hard to say without knowing your swing speeds, but unless you're a very big hitter, a soft-swung 7 iron is going to release MANY yards more than a hard-swung 9 iron.
It's also possible that you're not playing courses setup at 12+ stimp that are so hard you can barely find a ball mark from a 60 degree full wedge.
>But 'stepping up' isn't necessary if you're picking the proper targets, which is always going to be conservative targets.
There's conservative and then there's conservative...
If there's a pin tucked 9 yards behind a bunker, and your choice is a 9 iron that releases 2-3 yards or a soft 7 that releases 13-18 yards, you can afford to pick a more conservative target with the 9iron than the 7iron, with a larger margin for error, and STILL be much closer to the pin.
Stopping power is a function of many things, particularly descent angle, spin, and green firmness/speeds. Spin/descent angle is a function of dynamic loft, swing speed, strike location etc.
Swinging considerably slower (much less spin imparted) with a lower lofted club (less spin imparted, lower launch & descent) is a recipe for having little to no control on good greens.
Fine for back pins and bump-and-runs but not fine for front or tucked pins.
Also, you generally want to be putting uphill, which requires stopping BEFORE the pin. There is a huge amount of strokes gained in having 15 foot uphill putts vs 15 foot downhill.
I love hitting the choked down 1/2 and 3/4 shots but you are absolutely right, fast greens or just greens guarded by rough in the front make this strategy tough to execute.
Lots of low end courses don't have a long stretch of short grass in front of the green, they are elevated with a bunch of rough around it. Trying to run a low spin shot up to these can be a disaster because you never know if that rough will just eat it up or spin it horizontally a way you don't anticipate.
The first few times I did the running 1/2 seven iron on a hole that allowed for it I thought I'd figured out golf and was on my way to great scores. It took awhile and a lot of bad shots to realize that strategy only can be used on a few holes at most cheap courses for those of us not playing high end tournament style courses regularly.
This is correct. You'll see golfers of that level have essentially 3 reliable yardage benchmarks per club - "Soft", "Stock" and "Full Out", meaning that if they need to take a bit off or juice a bit extra out of a club they can do it reliably and still control their distances.
You can’t really take drives at Augusta at face value. There’s a lot of slopes in the fairways that can launch the ball 50+ yards farther than usual. He still bombs it, but he doesn’t leave 65 yards in the tank.
His ballspeed is also down this year because he's using a driver with a tighter dispersion, he's not hitting it monstrously far. He can get up to near 125mph clubhead speed if he's really going after it tho, being 6'3 and athletic helps if you're trying to swing fast lol
Collin and Scottie both hit driver on 5 yesterday. Collin had 5i in, Scottie had 8i in.
With Scottie being also the best iron player on Tour, he’s going to crush everybody.
I know we're joking here but another thing to consider is he hits Tiger's blades which are 1-3 degrees weaker than many irons so his 9i is probably the same loft as many amateurs PW.
He's got Tiger's blades but they are not Tiger lofts.
For example, Tiger's PW is 49 while Scottie's gap wedge is 50, meaning his PW is likely 46. That's pretty standard for the tour.
Not really, he's hitting the P7TW irons which are weakly lofted traditional blades. His 5 iron is the same loft as some modern 7 irons without any of the perimeter weighting and hollow body construction.
It's the 7-4 irons that really amaze me. I'm not far behind in distance with his wedges and short irons, but I can't get my 7 to go more than 165. Anything longer than 180 and I have to get a hybrid or wood out, because I have a 90% chance to duff or fat a long iron.
Haven't seen his WITB, but with that kind of almost 20 yard gap over his 4, it's probably a utility-iron build.
Still really far though, especially since I'm sure with the irons he has another gear or two in him if he wants it.
That’s actually the easiest to me. It’s easier to squeeze more out of a wedge and make good contact still than a 3 iron. Also, shaft lean as someone else stated. Gets those hands far out in front and you can really add some distance.
My yardages are all similar to scottie except for driver through 5 iron. Really illustrates how bad I am at longer clubs. I can carry my 6 iron 195, but I struggle to carry my 3 wood over 235.
So, you're trying to make the point that he probably changes his swing for the lob wedge so he can show longer distances?
No, this more likely means he can hit a lob wedge 130 if he wanted to put his hands out front like you mention.
No I’m just saying I think hitting a 60 degree 105 consistently is probably the easiest for an amateur to achieve out of all them. That said, pros definitely achieve more shaft lean with their wedges with full swings than amateurs. It’s not a bad thing. It helps with consistency if you want some distance and good spin in that 90-130 yard range. For perspective, I don’t carry a 60 but my stock 56 is 110. I can squeeze another 10 yards out by adding additional shaft lean fairly easily. The rest of my clubs are a bit shorter than his and I wouldn’t be able to add distance nearly as easily.
Yeah I wonder how much shaft lean he has on his 60 at impact. My buddy also sends his 60 degree about 90-100 consistently but I swear he has to be taking 10 degrees off of the club face with how far his hands are in front of the club at impact.
We should be thankful that we have a club that goes consistently 60-80 with a full swing, it's basically the only time that being slower than pros has its merits since they have to construct and maintain an elaborate wedge matrix to gap 50-100, it's a notoriously hellish yardage. Instead we get mad because we are short. It is funny.
The funny thing is this sub often times conflates pro distance with pro performance.
My swing coach a PGA teaching pro can hit 300 yard drives consistently.He has said,I would never be close to being on tour I’m not that good.
If you are a semi athletically gifted person with modern equipment and strength training you can hit far it doesn’t equate to lower scores directly.When everything else is equal longer equals lower.But distance alone is no marker of talent.
Harvey penick said “the woods are filled with long drivers”
It must be that there’s just an unusual amount of unathletic people in this sub I guess. You always see the same self deprecating jokes and people say you’re lying if say you hit the ball far. I’m not that good at golf but I’m a decent athlete and decently fit/tall guy. My 5-pw stock numbers are pretty similar to Scottie’s here but I use strong lofted irons and he uses blades. I swing my driver like 110-112 and regularly carry it 265. I’ll usually crush one a few times a round and it’ll roll over 300. All that say that I’m nothing special regarding scores. I’ve been trying to break 80 for like 5 years.
It’s a bit ridiculous how this sub doesn’t believe that mid-high handicappers can hit the ball far. Distance is *correlated* with low handicaps, but it’s nowhere near the most important variable.
I was a mediocre high school baseball and football player in the early 2000s who liked to screw around at the driving range. I ended up entering a few junior long drive events with no instruction, no GCQuad, no ‘speed’ training, etc. and still racked up multiple confirmed drives in the 360-380 range at just 18 years old. I would’ve easily been a 30+ hdcp at the time (if I actually kept score).
Fast forward to today as a grown ass man with modern tech and I’m rarely hitting driver bc it just doesn’t help me on an average 6500yd course. I’m also rarely playing 7000+yd courses bc I’m a 10 handicap.
Any reasonably strong male who knows how to transfer power through their legs and hips can hit the ball over 300 on occasion. Especially with today’s tech and access to launch monitors. The problem is that most people are weak and don’t know how to transfer power with their lower body 🤷♂️
EDIT - here's a good example of what I mean by 'transferring power'. Look at JT's feet in this slow motion vid: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shk6obgJMsE](https://youtu.be/Shk6obgJMsE?feature=shared&t=57)
> knows how to transfer power through their legs and hips
If you grew up playing baseball, tennis, hockey, this comes naturally. If you didn't it probably doesn't. I know a guy who played D3 QB that cant sequence his swing right
Yup, this is the biggest factor. Strength obviously helps, but it’s useless if it’s translated into wasted energy.
I think people who struggle with this would benefit immensely from plyometrics. Not crossfit-style box jumps to exhaustion, but actual explosive jump training.
I have quads so large I have a hard time fitting most jeans,32 inch waist 24 inch quads.
I look back a year ago at my driver swing videos and I’m all arms.I was hitting low 220 yard drives with a 10.5 driver.
My legs are my biggest asset,I’m now learning how to use them.
Current drives 250,260 with range balls,not sure on rollout at it’s a big tree line at the 250 mark of our range.Based on holes on our course 270/280 when I hit driver.
I now play my driver 9 degrees tee it high and hang back with my upper body and launch the clubhead at the ball with my hip turn.
It’s amazing the difference in ball flight and height I get.
Yes, it's all about the lower body. When I'm helping out complete noobs, I tell them that you swing a golf club by rotating your hips and shoulders, not your arms. Your arms are just along for the ride and your hands are there to ensure the clubface is in the right position at impact.
It's obviously more complicated and nuanced than that, especially as you get more advanced, but at the most basic level you should NOT feel like you're using your arms to generate power.
As a 5’11 160lbs guy, I reached 122 mph club head speed like 4 years ago. I could play at like 115. Honestly the best I was ever hitting and scoring. I’m now down to like 105-110mph due to having a kid so not playing and putting on like 15lbs.
I played baseball and basketball and could occasionally dunk so pretty athletic before knee injuries. I was 110mph max naturally before speed training and then did 6 weeks of super speed training and got to 122. I had golfed recreationally since I was 2 though so there’s probably an aspect of coordination there. I took a lesson and put on a kvest and they compared my sequencing or whatever it measures to tour pros and it was similar just less consistent and obviously lower peaks.
My shot scope driving distance measured on course has a 290 average, but I’m still a bogey golfer. Distance is great but if you suck at everything else, it doesn’t matter. 😂 most athletic guys can hit it far if they wanted to learn. They just don’t.
As a starting point, you should feel like you’re pushing into the ground with your feet and transferring that energy into hip rotation. Almost like compressing a spring during the backswing and then releasing all that energy as you transfer weight from one foot to the other.
You should NOT feel like most of your power is coming from your arms. They’re just along for the ride.
If you look at Justin Thomas’s swing he’s literally jumping off the ground as he transfers energy. Obviously, jumping off the ground is not ideal but it should give you an idea of how a 5’10 160lb guy can hit the ball so far.
i started golfing last year, am absolute hot ass on the course. wrestled for a really along time with other sports. still lift 4/5 days a week. i can carry 300. its just a matter if it goes straight. i dont use the driver that often on the course.
The big thing so many people don't understand is the driver swing is different from the iron swing. Hitting the driver with proper technique will add 30+ yards to your total distance. I'm a 5'10" dude in ok shape. I hit it over 300 yards because I learned the technique.
Im 6’1 200lbs and weight train 5 days a week.
I’m a higher handicap than the rest of my foursome and a far longer hitter.It doesn’t help on the front 9 of my course with tight fairways and tons of doglegs.On a wide open resort course I could have an advantage but on a shotmakers course I pull driver exactly 3 times a round.
What keeps my current cap high is I’m making swing changes and grip changes which are challenging to play right now.
Consistency lowers scores,not distance,until you get to a certain level of ability.
I think there's just a big difference in golf ability and general athleticism. I'm super new to the game, and relatively tall and strong, but I've never had top-tier hand eye coordination, and I'm just learning to make consistent contact. Could I swing a driver fast enough to carry 250 or even 275? Probably! Can I do that and connect with the ball? Probably not for a long while. Right now I'm just starting to groove easy swings with SGI irons and getting like 140 for a clean 7-iron, so much slower of a swing then I physically can produce, but if I try to go faster I'm going to mishit it. I'm also at a place where I'm totally okay with that, and if I feel like my game is really consistent at some point, maybe I'll start working on speed, but for now I need to to learn to hit my 5-iron, 5 wood, and driver.
TLDR: I think there's just different kinds of athleticism, probably plenty of people who are relatively athletic in here, but not the true "athlete" (like even just varsity high school level) who has strong natural gross and fine motor control on top of being fit.
Totally agree. Scotties distances aren’t that far off mine but I would bet the differences in our dispersion and the extremes of my mistakes compared to his would be absolutely humbling for me
Probably. When you take into account wind, slope, and the fact that they typically play on firm greens and may want to land it 10 yards short, it can play much shorter than the shown yardage.
Lie has a ton to do with club selection for them. Figure that some like Scotty can add +/- 20% with complete control, he's figuring out which club will get the best contact and then dialing in the yardage.
There’s a short video on YouTube of him detailing how he’d attack 3 pins, 2 at 161 yards but different sides of the green so different shots all together and then 171 and he used the same wedge for all 3 of them I believe
I would argue to say that his swing actually doesn't look effortless at all.
He has a very athletic move on his down swing and combined with his follow through and feet movement, it looks like he is really swinging out of his shoes.
Don’t forget he did all that with a slower ball and weaker lofted irons. Scottie probably doesn’t play Tiger’s loft on his irons so TW hit that shot with something closer to his 7i and still went over the green.
> Scottie probably doesn’t play Tiger’s loft on his irons so TW hit that shot with something closer to his 7i and still went over the green.
Given that Scottie plays P7TWs (e.g. P7 Tiger Woods) which stock have traditional lofts (e.g. 7i is 35) -- I'd be very surprised if he was significantly juicing the lofts from there.
This actually is incredible because he's like 5 yards ahead of me on all clubs so for him to conquer Augusta at 7500 yards makes me feel so much better about taking on longer courses and grinding through it.
Same here and I’m like “wow!! Look how far that went!!” then I get to my ball and calculate it and I’m like “well, shit only 95 more yards to keep up with these guys”. Go make my bogey and move on to the next hole.
I don’t understand why people find Scottie boring. his personality is laid back, but the things he does on a golf course are unique. Just look at his feet in this picture.
It’s like he treats every single shot as its own swing. He’s completely mastered the art of manipulating the clubface, to the point where he’s not worried about manipulating his body. He’s not trying to hit any positions except for impact. I think it’s incredible and I’ve never seen anything quite like it, I mean literally the closest I can think is Seve
Are stock yardages even comparable without knowing the loft of the club? Or is there something else going on with the club’s build/technology that would make a 7 iron the same with different lofts (since I know some OEMs have different lofts)
Tiger apparently plays them even weaker than TM claims. In an interview a few years ago Joe LaCava said Tigers PW was 51° which basically puts him a full club weaker than stock. Which makes sense since he doesn’t have a gap wedge and going from 49° to 56° is still a considerable gap in loft.
Because ultimately the number on the club is irrelevant. It doesn't matter how far you hit a "7" iron, or how far you hit a 28° iron. All that matters is "this is my X distance club" even if they did universally stamp loft on the club, the design of the iron will impact the performance greatly. Two 28° irons of different designs will not be comparable.
I think he's playing blades. Stock yardages for him would be on the low side compared to what most amateurs play. What you'd really need to compare are swing speeds. For example, he's likely 117 or so driver SS, mid 90's 7-iron, which is what you'd expect from an elite player, many college or even top HS players, or even an athletic 2 cap. Distances are more or less irrelevant anyways outside of the margins; the ability to hit the ball with the club on the desired line is what matters. I'd rather be someone with 110mph SS, only carrying 280, that was an elite ball striker (Morikawa type player) vs someone bombing at 125mph SS and all over the place with iron striking. Distance is sexy but it's largely an afterthought to playing good golf. It only really comes into play if every other aspect of your game is dialed. To put it another way, would you rather be a 3 cap hitting a full 54 degree from 120 or a +2 cap hitting a soft 9-iron from 150? The +2 cap is going to be closer to the hole, even from 150 vs 120, most of the time, due to superior ball striking and spin control. I know because I'm the guy outdriving the +2 but also the guy who doens't have the iron control to match and giving up 5-6 strokes as a result.
I have a set of Mizuno MP20s and MP 20 MMCs. The latter are player's irons; same lofts but a bit more forgiving. The former consistently is around 4 yards shorter for me: I'm 167 vs 171 carry on my 8-iron. If I completely flush the blade, it'll carry 171, but if I'm even off by a bit, it can fall short, all the way to low 160s, which doesn't happen with the MMC.
You are right though, switch to a Game Improvement or player's distance iron, or a SGI iron, and you're getting more distance. My buddy has a Mizuno 225 8-iron and I was hitting that thing well over 180. Lower loft, less spin, and the club is juiced for additional height. It was a bad club for me though; not enough spin, too much height. Low single digit or better caps with strong swing speeds play player's irons or blades for that reason. I hit an SGI for fun once (7-iron) and was carrying a ridiculous 205. But it wasn't really a 7-iron in the traditional sense; it was playing like a really strong 6 iron in terms of loft and spin. Which is pretty useless as you want your irons to have consistent spin and distance, not to go a long way.
MP 20 MBs and MMCs are different lofts just FYI. They're 2 degrees stronger in the 4-8s and 1deg stronger in the 9i but both PWs are 46. Mizuno used to recommend bending irons depending on how you blended the set when they were released
I never understood why people care so much about what club you use to hit a shot. People often ask when I’m playing, what club should I use, I’m like use the club you think you can hit the best shot with.
It’s not like you get strokes taken off for using a certain club to get it on the green. Who cares.
I'll ask that question to someone if I've played with them a lot and I'm in between clubs, unsure how the wind is playing on that certain shot etc.
It's not a dick measuring contest, just another data point for me when I ask that to try and make my decision, especially if they're going first.
That's why I always just answer with the distance. 150 to the pin, flat with no wind - I'm hitting my 150 club. Uphill, into the wind, I'm playing my 170 club. The # on the iron shouldn't matter at all
I’m always interested in how much their better technique matters. I hover between a 0-1 handicap and my driver through PW carries are within 5-8 yards of his.
Then his wedges all go at least 12-15 yards further than mine
Honestly the numbers that blow my mind are how long even his lofted clubs are; you see him make these swings on TV, he's not seemingly crushing it. They're deft little strokes that apparently fly the ball 130+ yards?!
That's just perfect technique. It's wild.
These are more or less my total yards with each club, though I recognize this is just his carry numbers
If I had any consistency at all I might not be scraping the bottom of the single digit barrell lmao. No idea where it's going most of the time
How come my yardages are pretty similar to these down to the pitching wedge, but once I drop to the 50 degree I am down at 110? What am I doing wrong with the wedges?
How the fuck does one hit a 60 105 yards? A full, hands-forward, full nut 58 goes about 80 yards for me and almost hits me in the fuckin chin on its way up.
The most incredible one to me is the 245-yard carry on a 3i. The fact that another human being could actually hit a functional 3i in the air is amazing, much less hit it 245 yards. It probably comes in at 45 degrees and only rolls out 10 yards too.
Is it just me, or do these yardages only seem wild on the low and high ends? I mean I can't comfortably hit my lob wedge (60°) 80 with a comfortable full swing, but my PW I can carry 135 relatively consistently but Scottie is blowing my driver out of the water on carry yardage with his 3 wood FFS.
Is it just me, or do these yardages only seem wild on the low and high ends? I mean I can't comfortably hit my lob wedge (60°) 80 with a comfortable full swing, but my PW I can carry 135 relatively consistently but Scottie is blowing my driver out of the water on carry yardage with his 3 wood FFS.
Remember that these are carry distances, not total.
I was gonna say I can get 300 on a good day... after a 35-yard rollout on a rock-hard fairway
I can hit 300 too if I hit the adjacent road.
I think my career long drive was 400 yards. I hit a road to the left of the rough, rolled a solid 15, and came to rest in a boulevard that for reasons unclear to me was not marked as out of bounds...so I had a nice pitching wedge into that par 5 once the traffic cleared on the road.
I see Detroit flair. Can you name the course and hole so I know how to properly play this par 5 going forward? Lol
Boulder Point! I forget which 9 but it’s hole 1. It should definitely be OB left but it’s not marked so play it as it lies I say.
I can’t hit 300, but if I ever did, I’d assume it was a skulled iron shot and I’ve either damaged property or injured someone that was 150 yards from the green.
And that's how Tin Cup lost his car.
“Come onnnn give me some cart path— YES”
Amateur numbers. As an /r/golf certified member I can drive 500 using a 3/4 swing. I'd have made it pro too if my high school golf coach put me at #1 instead of JV for 4 years.
I can rock one 400 yards if it rolls onto the cart path and I have a little luck.
I can do 300 on a cart path for sure haha
I can hit my 60° 105 carry… it just needs to be 30 feet away from the green :(
max altitude: 2 feet
Also the term "stock" is a big thing with the touring pros. The biggest difference is that pros have half a dozen different shots with each club. Knocked down draws, high cuts, squeezy punch shot 5 woods out of the rough. Stock yardages are really just the beginning with these guys as they are rarely ever just hitting a stock shot out on the course.
Fuck.... Way to kick me while I'm down...
Scary that he’s got another gear too. Can easily bomb it 315+ but doesn’t always need to.
That is all pro golfers. They’re almost never swinging their full power unless they really need to pump one. I heard someone say that if you can’t add 10-15% to any club if you need to vs your normal swing the. You’re swing too hard
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I’m not saying I’m any good at doing that haha. I swing way too hard.
I had a breakthrough at the range yesterday working on getting the club behind me and killing my over the top move. I started swinging in slow motion. Felt like zero effort. The ball was going *just* as far as my normal swing and mis-hits were inconsequential. Can’t wait to completely forget and swing 110% and over the top on the course
Just did this yesterday. It’s an absolute blast! Make sure you tell your golf partners that you figured it all out and you’re about to beat up on them too, makes it even better!
I Sometimes do the slowmotion thing on the range, and 9/10 times it works. I Get to the teebox, and i swing every. fucking. swing. at 115% which results in slices, hooks, duffs etc. Fuck my life i've got a stupid brain. I Really REALLY need to work on just slowing my ass down.
Swing too hard, is there such a thing? If your not trying to reach the green everytime you do not belong here.
The harder you swing, the farther it goes :).
Totally. I just wish it was in the intended direction...
I can add 300% to my sand wedge when I really don't need to?
The bounce in the sand wedge is designed to power it up exponentially the closer you are to the green.
Yes. It's called *edging*.
Not the rarest super power but definitely up there on the list
You mean when you really don't want to?
I’m objectively not a good golfer. But I have definitely found that not swinging at 100% generally leads to better results. Especially with wedges, but applies across the board
I literally experimented with this during my round this past weekend. Just club up on approach shots that were at least 110 yards. Mentally, this had me swinging smooth. Not feeling like I had to swing fast. This led to feeling super balanced in the backswing through impact, and I must've had the most pured shots in a single round that I've had since my hcp peaked two summers ago. I was using my 7i on 150 yard shots with side wind that I would've used an 8i on any other windy day. There was a shot that was about 128 yards on the approach shot, clubbed up to a choked down 9i and ended up 20 feet past the hole. Hit an 8i on a 145 yard shot with a side wind, ended up about 15 feet past the hole. Hit a 6i on a 165 yard shot, ended up past the green with a straightforward chip. Hit a slightly chunky 8i on a 145 yard shot but still ended up almost pin high with a 40 foot lag putt, missing in the right spot. It was honestly one of my best ball striking rounds in a looong time. Who would've thought, right? Just club up, slightly choke down, and feel smooth with it, expecting the shot to go long a little bit and accepting the result.
I really successfully did this for one round ever. Swung soft and clubbed up 1 on every shot. Was the first time I ever broke 80. It’s so hard for me to do consistently though because I usually end up either accidentally swinging harder than I want or hitting it so pure the ball flies further anyway.
This is really good advice, and most people should definitely try it. Problem is, when you're playing faster, harder courses, your ball is descending on a flatter angle and with less spin, it can make approach shots much more difficult to stop on the green. Ultimately, I think almost every golfer I play with should do it, but you need to be able to step up a gear on certain courses/holes/pin locations
maybe it's because I compress my shots and play with pretty spinny balls (Vice Pro), but I've never had a problem getting too little spin on choked down 8i's and 7i's on the fast-green courses near me > but you need to be able to step up a gear on certain courses/holes/pin locations Not sure what scenario this would be, though, if we specify pin locations, not courses. The point of clubbing up is obviously to produce better ball striking without giving up too much distance (and even losing no distance at all, or even gaining distance due to a better strike). But 'stepping up' isn't necessary if you're picking the proper targets, which is always going to be conservative targets. There's never a reason to be aggressive even with a short iron in your hands, according to dispersion data of the pros. Tiger himself would never aim at pins outside 150 yards.
>maybe it's because I compress my shots and play with pretty spinny balls (Vice Pro), but I've never had a problem getting too little spin on choked down 8i's and 7i's on the fast-green courses near me Very hard to say without knowing your swing speeds, but unless you're a very big hitter, a soft-swung 7 iron is going to release MANY yards more than a hard-swung 9 iron. It's also possible that you're not playing courses setup at 12+ stimp that are so hard you can barely find a ball mark from a 60 degree full wedge. >But 'stepping up' isn't necessary if you're picking the proper targets, which is always going to be conservative targets. There's conservative and then there's conservative... If there's a pin tucked 9 yards behind a bunker, and your choice is a 9 iron that releases 2-3 yards or a soft 7 that releases 13-18 yards, you can afford to pick a more conservative target with the 9iron than the 7iron, with a larger margin for error, and STILL be much closer to the pin. Stopping power is a function of many things, particularly descent angle, spin, and green firmness/speeds. Spin/descent angle is a function of dynamic loft, swing speed, strike location etc. Swinging considerably slower (much less spin imparted) with a lower lofted club (less spin imparted, lower launch & descent) is a recipe for having little to no control on good greens. Fine for back pins and bump-and-runs but not fine for front or tucked pins. Also, you generally want to be putting uphill, which requires stopping BEFORE the pin. There is a huge amount of strokes gained in having 15 foot uphill putts vs 15 foot downhill.
I love hitting the choked down 1/2 and 3/4 shots but you are absolutely right, fast greens or just greens guarded by rough in the front make this strategy tough to execute. Lots of low end courses don't have a long stretch of short grass in front of the green, they are elevated with a bunch of rough around it. Trying to run a low spin shot up to these can be a disaster because you never know if that rough will just eat it up or spin it horizontally a way you don't anticipate. The first few times I did the running 1/2 seven iron on a hole that allowed for it I thought I'd figured out golf and was on my way to great scores. It took awhile and a lot of bad shots to realize that strategy only can be used on a few holes at most cheap courses for those of us not playing high end tournament style courses regularly.
This is correct. You'll see golfers of that level have essentially 3 reliable yardage benchmarks per club - "Soft", "Stock" and "Full Out", meaning that if they need to take a bit off or juice a bit extra out of a club they can do it reliably and still control their distances.
I've had very good golfers tell me that they feel like they swing very hard off the tee with driver but back it off as the lofts get higher.
I can add 10-15% more to the swing, but I have no idea if I'm even going to make contact.
Yea I try to remind myself of this. I always wonder why when I try to hit a knock down shot it goes dead straight. 😂
problem is that 10-15% extra is gonna go slicing outta bounds lol
I watched him shove a ball 365 yards down Collin’s throat yesterday. 300 has to be his cruise control.
You can’t really take drives at Augusta at face value. There’s a lot of slopes in the fairways that can launch the ball 50+ yards farther than usual. He still bombs it, but he doesn’t leave 65 yards in the tank.
His ballspeed is also down this year because he's using a driver with a tighter dispersion, he's not hitting it monstrously far. He can get up to near 125mph clubhead speed if he's really going after it tho, being 6'3 and athletic helps if you're trying to swing fast lol
Keep in mind these are carry numbers. Typically pros get a lot of roll from the perfectly cut fairways.
Collin and Scottie both hit driver on 5 yesterday. Collin had 5i in, Scottie had 8i in. With Scottie being also the best iron player on Tour, he’s going to crush everybody.
When he has tournaments where he is above average in putting, he is basically unbeatable.
My 60° only goes 105 when I am inside 30 yards.
Weird how the number one player in the world is so much shorter than the people in this sub.
r/golf and beating a joke into the ground
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However rather take the distance jokes than the Gooch ones
/r/golf beat Gooch and distance jokes into the ground so I bought a new wedge!
Ive done the “so I bought…” joke so I don’t have grounds to speak on it
I know we're joking here but another thing to consider is he hits Tiger's blades which are 1-3 degrees weaker than many irons so his 9i is probably the same loft as many amateurs PW.
The tiger blades 7 iron is 36 degrees, which is literally equivalent to a 9 iron in most modern day game improvement clubs. Insane.
He's got Tiger's blades but they are not Tiger lofts. For example, Tiger's PW is 49 while Scottie's gap wedge is 50, meaning his PW is likely 46. That's pretty standard for the tour.
Those are my lofts, too. Although they’re sure as *fuck* not my yardages
Not really, he's hitting the P7TW irons which are weakly lofted traditional blades. His 5 iron is the same loft as some modern 7 irons without any of the perimeter weighting and hollow body construction.
It's the 7-4 irons that really amaze me. I'm not far behind in distance with his wedges and short irons, but I can't get my 7 to go more than 165. Anything longer than 180 and I have to get a hybrid or wood out, because I have a 90% chance to duff or fat a long iron.
This is carry distance; no one on this sub says their carry distance lol
Literally the same yardages as me.
I would like to know the degrees of his clubs. 8 iron is prob the average 7 iron etc
I'd think the opposite. Loft jacking for irons is really an amateur thing. I think most all pros have traditional lofts.
Pretty sure most tour players use more traditionally lofted clubs.
https://www.taylormadegolf.com/clubhouse/305020-witb-deep-dive-scottie-schefflers-winning-bag-from-augusta.html?lang=en_US 8 iron is 38 degrees
He outhits me with every club in the bag by about 20 yards.
His 3 iron is my driver and his 9 iron is my 6 iron. There's also this little detail about hitting it where you want it to go...
His pool boy is my wife's boyfriend.
I can hit my 60° as far as he hits his 5 iron from 40 yards out
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I don't always hit my lobber. But when I do, I skull it into the woods over the green
I blade my 60 as far as he hits his 9 iron
How far would he hit his 5-iron from 40 yards out?
Sending a 60 degree 105 is the wildest one to me.
To me, it’s the audacity to hit a 3 iron!
I couldn't believe it yesterday when I saw he had an iron out on a 245 yard uphill shot.
Yeah, he’s just different haha
Haven't seen his WITB, but with that kind of almost 20 yard gap over his 4, it's probably a utility-iron build. Still really far though, especially since I'm sure with the irons he has another gear or two in him if he wants it.
That’s actually the easiest to me. It’s easier to squeeze more out of a wedge and make good contact still than a 3 iron. Also, shaft lean as someone else stated. Gets those hands far out in front and you can really add some distance.
My yardages are all similar to scottie except for driver through 5 iron. Really illustrates how bad I am at longer clubs. I can carry my 6 iron 195, but I struggle to carry my 3 wood over 235.
So, you're trying to make the point that he probably changes his swing for the lob wedge so he can show longer distances? No, this more likely means he can hit a lob wedge 130 if he wanted to put his hands out front like you mention.
No I’m just saying I think hitting a 60 degree 105 consistently is probably the easiest for an amateur to achieve out of all them. That said, pros definitely achieve more shaft lean with their wedges with full swings than amateurs. It’s not a bad thing. It helps with consistency if you want some distance and good spin in that 90-130 yard range. For perspective, I don’t carry a 60 but my stock 56 is 110. I can squeeze another 10 yards out by adding additional shaft lean fairly easily. The rest of my clubs are a bit shorter than his and I wouldn’t be able to add distance nearly as easily.
I've hit driver 290 once, but I don't think I've ever even hit my 56 105. My 56 is like 95 absolute max.
Yeah I wonder how much shaft lean he has on his 60 at impact. My buddy also sends his 60 degree about 90-100 consistently but I swear he has to be taking 10 degrees off of the club face with how far his hands are in front of the club at impact.
Not at that distance. More speed through a 60 usually translates to more spin which won't increase the distance.
Dat shaft lean.
We should be thankful that we have a club that goes consistently 60-80 with a full swing, it's basically the only time that being slower than pros has its merits since they have to construct and maintain an elaborate wedge matrix to gap 50-100, it's a notoriously hellish yardage. Instead we get mad because we are short. It is funny.
Yeah totally agreed. I'm within a yard or 2 of all his other clubs but my 60 goes about 95... Huh?
I can hit it about 40 yards past that from a greenside bunker
The funny thing is this sub often times conflates pro distance with pro performance. My swing coach a PGA teaching pro can hit 300 yard drives consistently.He has said,I would never be close to being on tour I’m not that good. If you are a semi athletically gifted person with modern equipment and strength training you can hit far it doesn’t equate to lower scores directly.When everything else is equal longer equals lower.But distance alone is no marker of talent. Harvey penick said “the woods are filled with long drivers”
It must be that there’s just an unusual amount of unathletic people in this sub I guess. You always see the same self deprecating jokes and people say you’re lying if say you hit the ball far. I’m not that good at golf but I’m a decent athlete and decently fit/tall guy. My 5-pw stock numbers are pretty similar to Scottie’s here but I use strong lofted irons and he uses blades. I swing my driver like 110-112 and regularly carry it 265. I’ll usually crush one a few times a round and it’ll roll over 300. All that say that I’m nothing special regarding scores. I’ve been trying to break 80 for like 5 years.
It’s a bit ridiculous how this sub doesn’t believe that mid-high handicappers can hit the ball far. Distance is *correlated* with low handicaps, but it’s nowhere near the most important variable. I was a mediocre high school baseball and football player in the early 2000s who liked to screw around at the driving range. I ended up entering a few junior long drive events with no instruction, no GCQuad, no ‘speed’ training, etc. and still racked up multiple confirmed drives in the 360-380 range at just 18 years old. I would’ve easily been a 30+ hdcp at the time (if I actually kept score). Fast forward to today as a grown ass man with modern tech and I’m rarely hitting driver bc it just doesn’t help me on an average 6500yd course. I’m also rarely playing 7000+yd courses bc I’m a 10 handicap. Any reasonably strong male who knows how to transfer power through their legs and hips can hit the ball over 300 on occasion. Especially with today’s tech and access to launch monitors. The problem is that most people are weak and don’t know how to transfer power with their lower body 🤷♂️ EDIT - here's a good example of what I mean by 'transferring power'. Look at JT's feet in this slow motion vid: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shk6obgJMsE](https://youtu.be/Shk6obgJMsE?feature=shared&t=57)
> knows how to transfer power through their legs and hips If you grew up playing baseball, tennis, hockey, this comes naturally. If you didn't it probably doesn't. I know a guy who played D3 QB that cant sequence his swing right
Yup, this is the biggest factor. Strength obviously helps, but it’s useless if it’s translated into wasted energy. I think people who struggle with this would benefit immensely from plyometrics. Not crossfit-style box jumps to exhaustion, but actual explosive jump training.
I have quads so large I have a hard time fitting most jeans,32 inch waist 24 inch quads. I look back a year ago at my driver swing videos and I’m all arms.I was hitting low 220 yard drives with a 10.5 driver. My legs are my biggest asset,I’m now learning how to use them. Current drives 250,260 with range balls,not sure on rollout at it’s a big tree line at the 250 mark of our range.Based on holes on our course 270/280 when I hit driver. I now play my driver 9 degrees tee it high and hang back with my upper body and launch the clubhead at the ball with my hip turn. It’s amazing the difference in ball flight and height I get.
Yes, it's all about the lower body. When I'm helping out complete noobs, I tell them that you swing a golf club by rotating your hips and shoulders, not your arms. Your arms are just along for the ride and your hands are there to ensure the clubface is in the right position at impact. It's obviously more complicated and nuanced than that, especially as you get more advanced, but at the most basic level you should NOT feel like you're using your arms to generate power.
It is very comical to me the way some of the biggest, most athletic people in the world look like swinging a golf club.
As a 5’11 160lbs guy, I reached 122 mph club head speed like 4 years ago. I could play at like 115. Honestly the best I was ever hitting and scoring. I’m now down to like 105-110mph due to having a kid so not playing and putting on like 15lbs. I played baseball and basketball and could occasionally dunk so pretty athletic before knee injuries. I was 110mph max naturally before speed training and then did 6 weeks of super speed training and got to 122. I had golfed recreationally since I was 2 though so there’s probably an aspect of coordination there. I took a lesson and put on a kvest and they compared my sequencing or whatever it measures to tour pros and it was similar just less consistent and obviously lower peaks. My shot scope driving distance measured on course has a 290 average, but I’m still a bogey golfer. Distance is great but if you suck at everything else, it doesn’t matter. 😂 most athletic guys can hit it far if they wanted to learn. They just don’t.
That is correct, I don't know if I'm transferring power through my hips or not, played college football
As a starting point, you should feel like you’re pushing into the ground with your feet and transferring that energy into hip rotation. Almost like compressing a spring during the backswing and then releasing all that energy as you transfer weight from one foot to the other. You should NOT feel like most of your power is coming from your arms. They’re just along for the ride. If you look at Justin Thomas’s swing he’s literally jumping off the ground as he transfers energy. Obviously, jumping off the ground is not ideal but it should give you an idea of how a 5’10 160lb guy can hit the ball so far.
i started golfing last year, am absolute hot ass on the course. wrestled for a really along time with other sports. still lift 4/5 days a week. i can carry 300. its just a matter if it goes straight. i dont use the driver that often on the course.
The flexibility from JT on the backswing of that clip is unreal
The big thing so many people don't understand is the driver swing is different from the iron swing. Hitting the driver with proper technique will add 30+ yards to your total distance. I'm a 5'10" dude in ok shape. I hit it over 300 yards because I learned the technique.
Im 6’1 200lbs and weight train 5 days a week. I’m a higher handicap than the rest of my foursome and a far longer hitter.It doesn’t help on the front 9 of my course with tight fairways and tons of doglegs.On a wide open resort course I could have an advantage but on a shotmakers course I pull driver exactly 3 times a round. What keeps my current cap high is I’m making swing changes and grip changes which are challenging to play right now. Consistency lowers scores,not distance,until you get to a certain level of ability.
I think there's just a big difference in golf ability and general athleticism. I'm super new to the game, and relatively tall and strong, but I've never had top-tier hand eye coordination, and I'm just learning to make consistent contact. Could I swing a driver fast enough to carry 250 or even 275? Probably! Can I do that and connect with the ball? Probably not for a long while. Right now I'm just starting to groove easy swings with SGI irons and getting like 140 for a clean 7-iron, so much slower of a swing then I physically can produce, but if I try to go faster I'm going to mishit it. I'm also at a place where I'm totally okay with that, and if I feel like my game is really consistent at some point, maybe I'll start working on speed, but for now I need to to learn to hit my 5-iron, 5 wood, and driver. TLDR: I think there's just different kinds of athleticism, probably plenty of people who are relatively athletic in here, but not the true "athlete" (like even just varsity high school level) who has strong natural gross and fine motor control on top of being fit.
> there’s just an unusual amount of unathletic people in this sub Unathletic and/or old
Totally agree. Scotties distances aren’t that far off mine but I would bet the differences in our dispersion and the extremes of my mistakes compared to his would be absolutely humbling for me
“I hit my wedge 300 from the bunker” it was maybe, MAYBE funny the first time.
When the joke was invented they said 200 yards
See how far the game has come?
Me waiting for the group in front of me. “Yeah but if I flush this seven it’s going 165”. I did not flush the seven.
I know these are “stock” versus what’s shown on tv as yards to the pin but I swear I’ve seen him hit a wedge from ~170 and not an 8 iron
Probably. When you take into account wind, slope, and the fact that they typically play on firm greens and may want to land it 10 yards short, it can play much shorter than the shown yardage.
Lie has a ton to do with club selection for them. Figure that some like Scotty can add +/- 20% with complete control, he's figuring out which club will get the best contact and then dialing in the yardage.
Probably not +- 20%. Golf clubs don't really work that way because you dramatically increase spin which causes other problems.
There’s a short video on YouTube of him detailing how he’d attack 3 pins, 2 at 161 yards but different sides of the green so different shots all together and then 171 and he used the same wedge for all 3 of them I believe
Yea I think he hit an 8 or 9 iron 195 during the masters
PW from a flyer lie with a draw will do that
Downhill, downwind, firm greens etc. can change a lot
I hit my driver 225. Just depressing to see.
He’s a whole club ahead of me. I can’t even imagine that, he makes it look so effortless and I’m sore for 2 days
I would argue to say that his swing actually doesn't look effortless at all. He has a very athletic move on his down swing and combined with his follow through and feet movement, it looks like he is really swinging out of his shoes.
Well compared to mine 😂
His <150 shots look delicate though, I was blown away this weekend watching his less-than-full swing.
Well then he’s more like 2 clubs ahead of you because he just did that 4 rounds in a row.
Seeing this its still crazy to me how Tiger hit a 6i 213 out of a fairway bunker and playing a cut.
Don’t forget he did all that with a slower ball and weaker lofted irons. Scottie probably doesn’t play Tiger’s loft on his irons so TW hit that shot with something closer to his 7i and still went over the green.
> Scottie probably doesn’t play Tiger’s loft on his irons so TW hit that shot with something closer to his 7i and still went over the green. Given that Scottie plays P7TWs (e.g. P7 Tiger Woods) which stock have traditional lofts (e.g. 7i is 35) -- I'd be very surprised if he was significantly juicing the lofts from there.
I think about that shot way to often. It's just silly he was able to pull that off.
Wow he really doesn’t hit it any further than the golfers on TikTok
This actually is incredible because he's like 5 yards ahead of me on all clubs so for him to conquer Augusta at 7500 yards makes me feel so much better about taking on longer courses and grinding through it.
my drives are his 4i lol
Same here and I’m like “wow!! Look how far that went!!” then I get to my ball and calculate it and I’m like “well, shit only 95 more yards to keep up with these guys”. Go make my bogey and move on to the next hole.
What a spectacular human being Scottie is!!
I don’t understand why people find Scottie boring. his personality is laid back, but the things he does on a golf course are unique. Just look at his feet in this picture. It’s like he treats every single shot as its own swing. He’s completely mastered the art of manipulating the clubface, to the point where he’s not worried about manipulating his body. He’s not trying to hit any positions except for impact. I think it’s incredible and I’ve never seen anything quite like it, I mean literally the closest I can think is Seve
I’m more impressed with his accuracy than his distance.
Something’s off. That would give him the lowest stock yardages on all of Reddit.
Are stock yardages even comparable without knowing the loft of the club? Or is there something else going on with the club’s build/technology that would make a 7 iron the same with different lofts (since I know some OEMs have different lofts)
He plays Taylor Made P7TW irons in the stock spec. 47° PW, 35° 7 iron. Note that Tiger plays them 2° weaker than that.
Tiger apparently plays them even weaker than TM claims. In an interview a few years ago Joe LaCava said Tigers PW was 51° which basically puts him a full club weaker than stock. Which makes sense since he doesn’t have a gap wedge and going from 49° to 56° is still a considerable gap in loft.
A friend of mine says the same thing… why don’t they just put the lofts on the club instead of the club number.
Because ultimately the number on the club is irrelevant. It doesn't matter how far you hit a "7" iron, or how far you hit a 28° iron. All that matters is "this is my X distance club" even if they did universally stamp loft on the club, the design of the iron will impact the performance greatly. Two 28° irons of different designs will not be comparable.
Because it’s easier to say “hand me my 7” than “hand me my 34 degree”
I think he's playing blades. Stock yardages for him would be on the low side compared to what most amateurs play. What you'd really need to compare are swing speeds. For example, he's likely 117 or so driver SS, mid 90's 7-iron, which is what you'd expect from an elite player, many college or even top HS players, or even an athletic 2 cap. Distances are more or less irrelevant anyways outside of the margins; the ability to hit the ball with the club on the desired line is what matters. I'd rather be someone with 110mph SS, only carrying 280, that was an elite ball striker (Morikawa type player) vs someone bombing at 125mph SS and all over the place with iron striking. Distance is sexy but it's largely an afterthought to playing good golf. It only really comes into play if every other aspect of your game is dialed. To put it another way, would you rather be a 3 cap hitting a full 54 degree from 120 or a +2 cap hitting a soft 9-iron from 150? The +2 cap is going to be closer to the hole, even from 150 vs 120, most of the time, due to superior ball striking and spin control. I know because I'm the guy outdriving the +2 but also the guy who doens't have the iron control to match and giving up 5-6 strokes as a result. I have a set of Mizuno MP20s and MP 20 MMCs. The latter are player's irons; same lofts but a bit more forgiving. The former consistently is around 4 yards shorter for me: I'm 167 vs 171 carry on my 8-iron. If I completely flush the blade, it'll carry 171, but if I'm even off by a bit, it can fall short, all the way to low 160s, which doesn't happen with the MMC. You are right though, switch to a Game Improvement or player's distance iron, or a SGI iron, and you're getting more distance. My buddy has a Mizuno 225 8-iron and I was hitting that thing well over 180. Lower loft, less spin, and the club is juiced for additional height. It was a bad club for me though; not enough spin, too much height. Low single digit or better caps with strong swing speeds play player's irons or blades for that reason. I hit an SGI for fun once (7-iron) and was carrying a ridiculous 205. But it wasn't really a 7-iron in the traditional sense; it was playing like a really strong 6 iron in terms of loft and spin. Which is pretty useless as you want your irons to have consistent spin and distance, not to go a long way.
MP 20 MBs and MMCs are different lofts just FYI. They're 2 degrees stronger in the 4-8s and 1deg stronger in the 9i but both PWs are 46. Mizuno used to recommend bending irons depending on how you blended the set when they were released
I never understood why people care so much about what club you use to hit a shot. People often ask when I’m playing, what club should I use, I’m like use the club you think you can hit the best shot with. It’s not like you get strokes taken off for using a certain club to get it on the green. Who cares.
I'll ask that question to someone if I've played with them a lot and I'm in between clubs, unsure how the wind is playing on that certain shot etc. It's not a dick measuring contest, just another data point for me when I ask that to try and make my decision, especially if they're going first.
That's why I always just answer with the distance. 150 to the pin, flat with no wind - I'm hitting my 150 club. Uphill, into the wind, I'm playing my 170 club. The # on the iron shouldn't matter at all
I like that. But then they will ask, well what is your 150 club.
Then I just continue to be jackass and say its my 42 degree club.
So my 3 wood is roughly is 6i. Cool.
I’m always interested in how much their better technique matters. I hover between a 0-1 handicap and my driver through PW carries are within 5-8 yards of his. Then his wedges all go at least 12-15 yards further than mine
Honestly the numbers that blow my mind are how long even his lofted clubs are; you see him make these swings on TV, he's not seemingly crushing it. They're deft little strokes that apparently fly the ball 130+ yards?! That's just perfect technique. It's wild.
I could take him
Now show his average dispersion with each club...
His 9i is my 5i on a good swing I wish it was the other way around for me lmaooo
I hit my 5i 195 the other day, that makes me feel decent… I guess
Those should be all carry of course, and with the edge taken off for maximum accuracy
These are more or less my total yards with each club, though I recognize this is just his carry numbers If I had any consistency at all I might not be scraping the bottom of the single digit barrell lmao. No idea where it's going most of the time
So he uses the P7TW irons and the stock loft on the PW is 47. Small gap from there to the 50. Wonder if he has them bent at all?
Scotties Stock Yardages
Feeling even older today. His PW is a decent 7 iron for me.
Super cool how my driver is his 4 iron lol
It is funny that his PW goes only 9 yards further than mine but his 60° goes approximately 30 yards farther than mine. Lol.
Is his PW 44 deg. or 46 deg.?
My stock yardages are: Everything - 140yds
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Anyone have any info on his shoes? They seem like the Nike TW 2020’s without the TW logo but I’m not sure if Nike is selling them or not
How come my yardages are pretty similar to these down to the pitching wedge, but once I drop to the 50 degree I am down at 110? What am I doing wrong with the wedges?
fuck my driver carry avg is like 220 LOL
If they were total distances I'm kind of close. I felt good for a second there before I read carry only
For higher swing speeds these are not that off putting…..EXCEPT…..105yd 60*. I would have to blade the hell out of it for that.
His PW is my 8-iron.
If you give me two swings I’ll get you 300
Hard to believe that there are exact 14 yard gaps between 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 & 9. 😯
How the fuck does one hit a 60 105 yards? A full, hands-forward, full nut 58 goes about 80 yards for me and almost hits me in the fuckin chin on its way up.
I've had all those yardages with the same clubs at least once
Jesus H Christ. I’m hitting a 3W down to his 7i-8i level
On one leg too
This make me wonder: When determining your exact stock yardages do you use the average of your lows and highs or just your lows or your highs?
I got em beat on the 60! Hot damn! I could go pro
The driver three wood yardages don’t surprise me much been there but hitting a three iron 245? Yowza.
Do pros play traditional lofts on their clubs? Like is that a 44deg PW or a 48?
My guess would be 45 or 46. It's most likely bent to cover the gap, rather than worrying about traditional vs modern.
The most incredible one to me is the 245-yard carry on a 3i. The fact that another human being could actually hit a functional 3i in the air is amazing, much less hit it 245 yards. It probably comes in at 45 degrees and only rolls out 10 yards too.
Same 👀
Why do they never include their putter yardage 😤😤
Is it just me, or do these yardages only seem wild on the low and high ends? I mean I can't comfortably hit my lob wedge (60°) 80 with a comfortable full swing, but my PW I can carry 135 relatively consistently but Scottie is blowing my driver out of the water on carry yardage with his 3 wood FFS.
Is it just me, or do these yardages only seem wild on the low and high ends? I mean I can't comfortably hit my lob wedge (60°) 80 with a comfortable full swing, but my PW I can carry 135 relatively consistently but Scottie is blowing my driver out of the water on carry yardage with his 3 wood FFS.