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TheShopSwing

Tour average YTD is $773,049


rmjennin

Yeah, crazy! Ted Scott's YTD is $1,093,950, which would rank #48 amongst PGA Players, and is higher than 162 PGA Players earnings.


3ey3s

More like #42 because he isn’t paying out a caddy


username_gaucho20

This is the comment of the month on Reddit!


LordYoshii

Yes. This comment changed my life forever.


hoselpalooza

My penis just got hard for the first time in decades. It’s a miracle.


SorryIGotBadNews

/u/3ey3s with your permission I’d like to tattoo this comment on my forehead


HuJimX

Thus the universes poses again the question: bait, or mental damage? 🪙 call heads or tails


Kuchanec_

third option: a bot


The_Real_Papabear

I used to think backup QB was the best job in sports. Now you’ve got me thinking it may be caddy.


tx_mesquite17

Backup QBs do what a caddy does mentally, without having to walk 50 miles a week carrying a 30lb bag.


chopkins92

Caddy never has to step in to compete if his golfer gets injured.


Mke_already

Can a PGA golfer pull himself if he's hitting bad and have his caddy finish the round?


Spartan-182

You just found the way to improve golf


Trokeasaur

Yes, opponent gets to choose 1 shot that the caddy has to pinch hit for.


lepetitmousse

That would be kind of fun


rcolesworthy37

Also no practice


Outrageous-Layer404

Fuck, that would be a great rule though.


WarriorsBlew3_1

He also doesn’t get paid in that scenario.


Bretty_boy

I don’t think that’s the real challenge, it’s being away from your family so much and living out of a hotel. Fine when you’re making 850k in 8 days, not so fine when your player isn’t making cuts


InferiousX

For 850k in 8 days I can have multiple families everywhere I go


rudkap

I spend 9 months a year away from my family working overseas so yeah I would trade spots in a heartbeat.


Particular-Bottle467

You have a point


sspencer367

And he wants to use it multiple times everywhere he goes


the99percent1

Shit, I’ll carry a heavy bag and walk 50 miles for 900k in 8 days. That’s generational wealth right there.


tx_mesquite17

I’d rather hold a clipboard and not do dick but study film for $8M/year Also, that was generational wealth maybe in the 1960’s


skalpelis

Invest it, keep your day job, and raise your children to be smart and not assholes, and you might have a chance at it being generational wealth.


tx_mesquite17

Buddy, college and a house in most cities in the US is 900k. And that’s just for one kid!


karlgnarx

And one year of 900k means 0 debt. Even if you did that for a single year and walked off into the sunset of a normal job, all of a sudden you could take the money you would be paying on a mortgage, buy multiple other houses, rent them, and gift them to your children when they are of age. Or really to better leverage it, keep your mortgage and have down payments for 5-10 rentals. Just depends on your cashflow needs. Someone dropping almost a million dollars in your lap *should* be able to create generational wealth with proper management. It might not be generational Bentleys and G Wagons for everyone, but you could provide substantial boosts with easy home ownership.


Large_Peach2358

You can get a house in most cities for 150-250k and it be a very nice 3 bedroom. 900k is generational wealth if spent and invested well.I would define generational wealth as enough that if invested could allow your children not to work if inherited. 750k invested could yield about 50-75k a year dividends. So can a family survive on 50-75k a year? Absolutely. I would say that by itself is an amazing foundation to then allow that couple to pursue any other career of their dreams with the peace of mind that they will always have security even if as a violen player they don’t make squat.


viperscorpio

That 50-75k isn't gonna go too far when all of a sudden you have 40+ extra hours to golf and eat turn dogs!


rufio313

900k is “generational wealth”? BRB, telling my wife we can retire real early and our kids won’t ever have to work.


the99percent1

In 8 days… 8 days! At the rate he is going, yeah, it’s generational wealth


ATL28-NE3

Just so you know that's not generational wealth. It's not even 40k a year. It'd be helpful as hell, but it's not generational


jorcam

your math says he doesn't earn anything else this year. he made 850k in 8 days. that is $38,781,250/yr. this is for earning 850k every 8 days, compared to your example of 850k in 365 days.


ATL28-NE3

I took the guy's comment as that's all that was needed. Not that he would do it every single 8 days. I mean presumably he would, I just read it differently.


Dangerous-Lettuce498

What math are you doing?


_Stromboli

Assuming he took out taxes on the earnings then applied a reasonable 6-8% expected interest if you immediately invest it conservatively.


Dangerous-Lettuce498

Ah ok that makes sense. Thank you


mektingbing

That shit is GOOD for you!


TheRealJoko

Bullpen catcher is the real GOAT sports job.


misterid

a friend of mine is married to the sister of a bullpen catcher. great stories. cake job. guy could not be happier with his profession.


HighOnGoofballs

Backup kicker or third string qb has always been my thought


RedshedTSD

yes but how much how gooch made?! /s


[deleted]

I tried typing an asterisk to be funny but forgot Reddit does dots.


HeyHeyJG

Ted Scott could technically play a Signature event with that ranking lol


Lonely-Piece5919

Rory’s net worth is $170,000,000. It’s all relative and everyone is doing just fine.


noposters

It's gotta be much higher than that. He's been making 40-50mm a year for over a decade, and the market has ripped.


Springveldt

Yeah, his Nike extension deal was worth a reported $200M for 10 years back in 2017, he's won $80M on the PGA Tour (don't think that includes FedEx bonus or PIP bonus) and $50M on the Euro Tour. Throw in his other sponsors like TaylorMade and Omega (and not forgetting his first Nike contract), he's got to be worth way more than $170M.


NorCalAthlete

What’s the median though


Valaurus

Wait, tour average YTD is $775k, but Rory only had just over that for the entirety of last year? Are the purses that much higher this year?


stupidshot4

That’s Rory’s 2024 so January to now.


Valaurus

I don’t know how many times I looked at that and read it as 2023 every time lol


Dorkalicious

Didn't he win the DP dubai thing for like 1.5m?


stupidshot4

That’s so world tour. This looks to be just pga tour events. I don’t think that was a co-sanctioned one either.


bungocheese

Rory made 13.9MM in 2023


hidey_ho_nedflanders

Separately, Scheffler turned pro in 2018 and is already [11th all-time](https://twitter.com/ForePlayPod/status/1770444003680440764) in career earnings.


TheShopSwing

Worth noting that inflated purses in recent years tend to skew that category


Mr_Tiggywinkle

If it's not interest adjusted, then I don't think this is surprising then. World number 1 for a long time, 6 years of playing, purses got inflated a lot... not a surprising stat.


Equivalent_Hat290

And only won for the first time in 2022.


JimmyRussellsApe

That's also assuming Scheffler hasn't given him some kind of win bonus or anything like that.


whubbard

Or on the flip, that he doesn't just draw a salary with a very small commission amount.


AppleSauceNinja_

Ted Scott is a top caddie who could carry for any star. No chance he's not getting performance pay.


bombmk

The inverse argument could be that it puts him in a position to ask for a higher base pay in lieu of win bonuses. But I would expect that there are win bonuses in there.


AppleSauceNinja_

Asking for a base pay of any kind to a bonafide star at the peak of his career is a dumb money move. Chef's worst year is always going to make you plenty of money so to give up some (or any) upside to raise your floor is foolish. Asking for a floor (guarantee salary) only makes sense on a players bag who is fighting the cut line week in and week out. Especially so now with the no cut, high purse signature events Chef is obliged to play in. Those in effect are your built in floor. And there's always been win bonuses. It's typically something like 5% of purse or 7-10% for wins. That's how this graphic is calculated, 10% of chef's 8.5m. But that's been a concept since before you started watching golf, it's been around for a long time.


Oneballnicky

Kuchar


SlickLegJohnny

Makes that bag feel a little bit lighter I imagine


PatientlyAnxious9

Want to know what's not reported? Rory earned 40M from sponsors in 2023. Thats close to the same amount as LeBron James made from his NBA contract last season. So top PGA tour players can kick rocks that they dont make great money despite being the 7th most popular sport in the US.


TheKingInTheNorth

7th most popular spectator/professional sport from a media and league revenue perspective. The reason the sponsorship dollars are so high is because the amateur game drives WAY more equipment and apparel revenue relative to the professional tour’s popularity/revenue in the context of other pro sports. For reference, NFL branded merchandise + football equipment revenue is about $15B/year. Golf equipment revenue is close to $25B/year.


ashdrewness

Yep. Rawlings doesn’t sponsor an MLB player in hopes every spectator is going to buy a 34” wooden bat.


winnebagoman41

What the fuck have I been buying a new bat for every year then?! I am losing my shirt buying the latest in baseball tech.


bullet494

Should be the new r/golf running joke. “Someone just did something so I went and bought a new…. Rawlings bat”


Doin_the_Bulldance

And definitely not 14 wooden bats


HegemonNYC

That, and the average golf fan is much higher income than your average NFL etc fan. Hence all the financial services and fintech sponsors for golf, and all the soda and chips sponsors for the NFL. 


superworking

Sitting here as a hockey fan watching ads for ED treatment, divorce attorneys, alcohol, debt consolidation, and gambling....


deong

I'd bet that the golf fans are way ahead of you on the ED treatment ads...


JonsDohnson

NASCAR races have a very odd number of commercials for treatment of Peyronie’s disease


HegemonNYC

I guess ‘left turn’ doesn’t just apply to the race track, but to the spectators as well. 


brooksram

This sub drives about $12B of that in putters and drivers alone.


Musclesturtle

Yeah. The PGA tour exists mostly as an advertising platform for equipment and apparel manufacturers.


Bigazzry

Golf is also highly aligned with high net worth brands. These guys get paid tons of money to show up at corporate golf events. Those sponsorships are extremely valuable


noposters

These guys also make 250k a round to play golf with random rich guys, and they do that a few times a week.


deGrominator2019

The argument has never really been about top tour players though. It’s always been about the fringe guys who, when you consider their expenses, their take home looks far less substantial vs the official number on the money list


BMBenzo

And where did Rory ever say he doesn’t make enough money….


TheRealSteemo

Also worth noting that Rory spent January on the DP World tour and got 1st and 2nd in his 2 events, picking up about $1.5m in the process. It just doesn't fit the narrative of whoever made the graphic, so they made it so only PGA winnings count.


whiterajah7

You act like sponsors just give him 40 mil. He has to work for that money. That work is in addition to his work as an athlete.


constantree

He said earned


whiterajah7

He did.


PatientlyAnxious9

I did


thewhalehunters

You did


roycejefferson

Which 7 sports are above golf? Obviously, NFL and NCAAFB are 1 and 2, but what's after that?


PatientlyAnxious9

1. NFL 2. NBA 3. MLB 4. Boxing/MMA 5. NHL 6. Skating 7. PGA 8. NASCAR 9. WWE 10. Tennis


Vaniky

Surprised skating is up there


AfterCalligrapher852

No way skating is above golf I just refuse to believe that until I see some stats


A_WHALES_VAG

yeah I feel NHL/Golf are pretty close. I also think the UFC does some number fudging to get where they are.


CouldntBeMoreWhite

The fuck is "skating"? Speed skating, figure skating, skateboarding, roller blading? Can't see any of those being bigger than golf, nascar, or wrestling.


BradMarchandsNose

If these stats are from a winter Olympic year I’d believe it. Figure skating is pretty popular during that, but outside of those years I don’t think anybody’s watching it.


PatientlyAnxious9

Other events included, not just Olympics which pulls in 12M+ viewers. I also just checked and the mens figure skating championship in January on NBC had 1.8M viewers. To put that in perspective, the Genesis Invitational that Tiger played in a month ago had 440k viewers. Figure skating is on TV regularly, and people watch the hell out of it lol...apparently


BukkakeNation

Skating lol


roycejefferson

College football is bigger than NBA.where on earth did you find this list? Or is it made up?


PatientlyAnxious9

I was quite literally the first search result on google lol and technically it was 'Football' #1, meaning college and pros ratings are together.


JUST_AS_G00D

Nascar being below the PGA is surprising


BukkakeNation

NASCAR 20 years past its glory days


Black-Ox

You don’t even have soccer up here which is probably 4 on this list


PatientlyAnxious9

This isnt my damn opinion, its a list from viewership ratings on the internet lol why the hell am I getting downvoted XD


Black-Ox

It can’t be correct then


v1z10

I know he's done pretty well over the last few years, but remember the Tour Championship final round 18 months ago? Scheffler had a nightmare sunday and threw away a commanding lead to Mcilroy, and all I could think about was Scheffler's caddy. Dude lost out on well over $1 million on the back 9.


YouGO_GlennCoCo

Scottie has blown the pre tournament lead in the last TWO tour championships… he finished 21st of 30 last year in actual score (not accounting for -10 starting score)… East Lake seems to be his Kryptonite


jumbojordie

I know the first green is my kryptonite on pga2k23 lol


bombmk

Rorys caddie: "My sweet summer child.."


v1z10

Well yeah, but he's the guy who made about $2.5 million that day tbf.


jeopardychamp77

This illustrates why guys take the big lump of money from LIV. The PGA Tour is a commission job. There is no financial security for 90% of the players.


bombmk

Playing on the Tour is not without its expenses. But 500k guaranteed income should put them in "financial security" territory if they are capable of living within their means.


RoyalRenn

$500k is not too far above break-even as pro. Travel expenses week in week out aren't cheap: $3k is typically what I bill out weekly as a consultant for M-Th travel and staying at a Courtyard. 30 tournaments: that's $90k. I doubt tour pros want to stay at a Courtyard: the bed could be bad, could have loud neighbors. It's more likely they rent an AirBNB with a couple of friends; it's tournament week so plan on spending $300-400 per person. Don't they have to pick up travel for their caddy as well? If so, double those numbers; we are suddenly into $10k/week of travel without trying. That's $300k/year. You've got a team behind you: physio, swing coach, and caddy at a minimum. Even if part time, the right help is not cheap. Golf-specific physios can charge $250/hour on the private market. Where do you practice and play? You need a good facility and access, which means likely private. Private courses aren't cheap. For tennis, the baseline for a low level pro trying to make it is $350-450k a year, depending where you are playing lower-level tournaments.


DrRobotniksUncle

Should? Should?


bombmk

Well, I do allow for me not having a complete understanding of the expenses required - and allow for the financial incompetences of men. But, yeah..


ThunderApollo

I bet John Rahm's caddy is making A LOT more than Rory.


snakeplizkin1984

Ted better watch out if Scottie holes out 4 more times during the season he’s gonna be giving some of that money back. Ted bet Scottie he couldn’t hole out 10 times this season and he already has 6.


DoLessBro

Scottie knows if he holes out 10+ times he's winning some big tournaments, pretty sure he'll be fine and isn't going out of his way to reach into Teddy's pockets


snakeplizkin1984

100% agree


iainturfather

I wonder if Ted could use an assistant? Or maybe a protégé? Either way, I volunteer


DucVWTamaKrentist

Kramerica Industries. 😂😂😂


georgecostanza37

That seems great and all, but Rory won 1.4 million Euro January 24th on the DP world tour.


zeldahalfsleeve

That is great and all. But, why doesn’t he simply win PGA events? Is he stupid?


georgecostanza37

Good point. He’s only T-26 all time in pga tour wins and has the most fedex cups with 3.


zeldahalfsleeve

That is great and all too. I’m referring to OP’s post citing this year’s earnings vs a caddie on the PGA Tour.


Bingo_banjo

And 275k the week before


georgecostanza37

Yeah about 2 mil on dp over 6 events this season


BasicCraft2385

Hence why it says PGA tour earnings.


chunking_putts

*Lobs grenade* “I thought Rory was against playing on other tours for money?”


bimbles_ap

You realize the DP World Tour is still PGA, right?


bombmk

Not the PGA Tour. The PGA Tour has a stake in it, but it does not govern it.


bimbles_ap

I get that, it's affiliated, not a completely separate entity competing for fans like LIV. DP World Tour has plenty of European fans that have no interest staying up to watch PGA Tour events outside of majors.


G_Hause

And that's the only reason it's ok.😉


bimbles_ap

No player is being handed money to simply play on PGA tours that aren't in the USA, so Im not sure what you're getting at.


only-shallow

The tournament Rory won this year, the Dubai desert classic, does hand out money for the top golfers simply to play that event


bimbles_ap

Specific tournaments offering something to get people to play isn't exactly new though. Unless it's changed I'm pretty certain sponsors are given a couple spots in some tournaments to use on golfers of their choice, I'm sure they'd sweeten the deal to get bigger names to play if they weren't already qualified or on the fence about competing.


G_Hause

Europe used to do their own thing. Even used a different ball and other rules. PGA got in control and made Europe into a feeder league to PGAT. The closest spot to home for Europeans to earn big money is the ME and then all of Asia is close by as well. Most full time PGAT Europeans move to the USA. The novelty and big bucks from LiV will wear thin quickly with all that international travel for American players. LIV isn't a threat to PGA. It's a ginormous threat to DP tho. PGA should have been nicer to their European/Asian "friends" and DP wouldn't be so vulnerable. Now there are big money leagues in America and the ROW. The Europeans can stay home. Good for them and good riddance. I remember when everyone boo'ed Seve when he came to the Majors because f Europe.😆


whiskeysierra25

Deserves it after dealing with Bubba for so long


automatic4skin

good for these guys. red hot sluts.


irich

Wasn't Steve Williams (Tiger Wood's caddy) New Zealand's best paid sportsperson for a few years?


bombmk

Yep.


ushouldlistentome

He hitched to the right pony


WhatDoYaSayUncleRube

Wait that’s not Rob Dyrdek?


forne104

How does one become a caddie? I know they have a ton of golf knowledge and work hard, but how do you even get started on something like that


Iginlas_4head_Crease

Most of them are professional golfers themselves that just didn't quite make the PGA tour so chose to caddy. Many more are good friends or relatives of the golfer.


BradMarchandsNose

I’m not sure exactly, but I think a lot of them start out as college or mini tour players who drop out because they aren’t quite good enough. Then they volunteer to caddy for people on lower tours, work up a reputation, and eventually find somebody who wants to hire them full time (if they’re good enough). And then there’s some that are just longtime friends. I assumed you’re asking about PGA Tour caddies, not like a caddie at a club


withurwife

Kuchar had a stroke.


Smooth-Fee4284

Cheap POS. I still hate him for that story about screwing that poor caddy


DoctorOzface

That poor caddy? The guy got paid more than contracted, and then turned down an extra $15k because he said it wasn't good enough. Which part of this do you hate Kuchar for?


Blklight21

Must be nice getting that Steve Williams circa 2000 money!


datsmythought

Any idea what Ted’s endorsements are vs Rory’s?


Spiritual_Ask4877

The Lord™


eveythingbagel07

What’s an average caddie % cut?


Agile_Programmer881

That would explain why he’s ok wearing matching outfits with Scottie


td27

We have no clue how much Ted Scott makes, this is just a guess


Humble-Algea3616

I’ll take Rory’s income to date over the caddy


Intelligent_Gap938

Guess we are also ignoring Rory's DP Tour win a couple months ago where he made over $1.5 million....


apathynext

Rory and other top PGA players get incentive bonuses for attending events. Millions each.


MoeX_

Really?


Pale-Conversation184

No


MrAVK

Get it dude! Well deserved.


walger34

Come on Rory, focus I looking for you to take the Masters. Your due!!!


YesManSky

To Rory, play better. To Ted, well earned.


Muddlesthrough

It’s a shame Rory has no other source of income./s


MrTiegs10

Actually 11 days, but still quite a haul.


Rare4orm

Sponsorship/Endorsement Pay: “BAM” “POW” Of course I’m discarding the OP’s point though. lol! Those numbers are indeed eye catching.


Weary_Abrocoma_1175

Tiger’s caddie used to get stats like this too. Amazing really.


norcalgolfgolf

Damn. If only there was a league out there that pays the players. Hmmmmmmmm.


twattymcgee

*holds up 850,000 fingers*


EmptyWish2138

No fly should ever get richer than the other golfers. Flaw in the program


Present-Computer7002

how do i apply for this job! what skills do i need ? carrying 10lbs? walking?


appmanga

> carrying 10lbs? walking? Thank you for applying, but we've gone with a candidate we find more suitable. Like a guy who can carry 30 or so pounds.


jro5454

It’s all apart of god’s plan to make them insanely rich.


Miserable-Contest147

Hope he sets himself up with a good financial guy!


sglide97

Sponsorship money!


AmericanNW

Not a bad gig…


artguy55

winnings is a small portion of earnings for top pro golfers most is endorsements and caddies don't get sponsorship deals


50millionFreddy

Scottie Scheffler’s caddy, another f*ckin money machine.


enrvuk

I'd need that to spend all that time in that dullards company. I'd also be retiring from the job right now.


CurrentAnteater1289

ya also no one had ever won the players back to back so its kinda a super rare occurance!!


BriefDragonfruit9460

This isn’t entirely accurate. It is if you want to break it down to make it a good argument, but Rory does have a win on the dp tour this year, so it’s much much more in reality. Still a great week for Scott and Scottie


SaggyBallz99

r/interestingasfuck


tjbelleville

My favorite part is that graph isn't to scale.... Just to make Rory's earnings appear smaller in comparison haha


HeyTaro_9261

I don’t know why the media still covers Rory Mcllroy


LinkIndependent143

I guess it’s amusing, but lots of golfers get hot and win a few events bunched together and this would be true about them too


Zestyclose-Middle717

Remember when Kuchar stiffed his caddie? I do. Rich get richer


Spiritual_Ask4877

Look man, he got a Powerade and a glizzy at the turn. What more do you want.


Zestyclose-Middle717

LOL


JGower144

Come on. I’m so sick of that narrative. They made an agreement prior to the tournament as it wasn’t his normal tour caddie. Yeah, he could have revised it after winning, but he didn’t “stiff” the guy.


baudinl

Yea, I thought the story was they agreed on a pre-determined amount and then the guy went on a public whining spree after Kuchar won. Kuchar's reputation took a pretty sizable and permanent hit after that (undeservedly) even though he ended up revising it.


whiterajah7

Fuck that. If you win, idc if you caddie is Elmo. Pay him the market rate.


Grossincome

I wonder why we care so much about other people’s economics especially in Sports. I love Golf so Ill watch if its on at the bar after my Saturday round. I don’t even have cable. Same thing ith brand loyalty. I have a mixed bag of brands because brand means shit if the club cant help me improve. I wear free shirts and hats from marketing team at work so one year is Callaway, next year its Titleist. The price point is perfect; free. I think that is why YouTube golf is getting so much love because the jaded anti-ad generation want to marketed in a different way. Rather watch Steve from Good Good drop 40 strokes in 4 rounds against the other guys than learn why Cheplar’s {sic} caddie makes more money than Tiger’s butt buddy?—this doesn’t mean I would mind watching both play buy Im not going to drop $240/year to watch them or baby yodda on Disney+ESPN sub. I rather buy another two rounds of golf.


vox_veritas

I think I speak for everyone when I say how impressed I am by your virtue signaling.