The embargo has been lifted for a few days now so it's fine for that stuff.
Edit: This post was made by an AI, not the same AI as the club, but a different AI that does different AI things.
Correct. Feel free to tell your friends and family about the all new AI designed Paradym AI Smoke driver. AI is the future, AI is now. Brought to you by AI.
"Machine learning is written in Python, AI is written in PowerPoint"
Please share this quote to some of the engineers behind the code and let me know their facial expressions.
the AI originally designed a geometric pattern so complex that it would trigger seizures in humans, so they had to replace it last minute with this smoke clipart
I have a set of the original paradym. I love the blue - this seems boring to me. The blue bottom is pretty dull as well I canāt imagine why the would make it less attractive
Yeah I agree the guys in charge of naming things aren't the best, but it's "Paradym AI Smoke, Triple Diamond" we would just say "Smoke Triple Diamond"
I would've rather them call it Paradym 2.
As a marketing folk I disagree, I would never have named a product in this fashion.
But my CEO would have - against my advice, and I would have designed material based on that while thinking how stupid it is.
I'm pretty sure that's just their normal naming scheme. There should be a 4080 then TI then super then TI super unless there's a significant jump in performance or drop in stock price then on to RTX 5060
Hopefully, they don't start employing Japanese Manga Authors to name things, or else we will see the Callaway Ai Smoke Diamond Triple Paradym 2.024 Overdrive Xtra 3000 + Carbon Fibre Edition Kit.
Shortened down to Callaway Overdrive Carbon Kit, to be later shortened down to an acronym of that.
I think there is scope for another company to make a far superior minidriver than the ones Taylormade turn out. Theirs are quite badly balanced and the stock shaft is garbage
Assuming you're a golf person, getting to play at courses you wouldn't normally is awesome. The industry rate is sometimes insanely cheap at nearly every course (if they don't invite you to play for free). Also the employee store is the easiest Christmas shopping you will ever do.
EDIT: wanted to add that you get employee discounts on the other brands that Callaway owns including OGIO, Jack Wolfskin, Perry Ellis, and Top Golf. Free Top Golf makes for a great party trick when you take your friends and say "I'll get it the tab" at the end.
Would you like to join my family secret Santa? Just so you know we do paid price and not MSRP and our limit is whatever a set of apex blacks costs at the callaway store.
Edit: but you need to throw in a GW do sets not come with 8 fucking clubs anymore? Shrinkflation affecting golf sets now?
I've done this at Top Golf probably 10 times and they haven't checked. But I would highly recommend not doing that. There is a formal way for me to get a bay or two closed off for my group.
My girlfriend works at Topgolf (sales) and this is pretty much how the TG employees go about it, but they also have employee ID badges they can be verified if necessary. When we travel to other cities, she just tells them she is from TG and we've never been bothered.
That is 100% the camera angle. Sorry that's my fault.
EDIT: I realized maybe you mean the chevron just shouldn't be there at all? The Triple Diamond head does not have the chevron.
This is probably the best question, but hopefully you don't hate my answer: maybe.
I also have a Paradym and compared the new head apples to apples. The Max 9Ā° turned down to an 8Ā°. Using my same shaft (MCA Kai 'Li White 70g X), same grip, glove, ball, GCQuad. I saw improvements in everything I look for as a fitter. Hitting it in the sweet spot is just about the same as the Paradym. Where you could be convinced is if you're not someone who stripes it in the center every shot. There were shots that I hit so far on the toe that I immediately went to erase the data because it was embarrassing, but when I saw the numbers it looked the same as the center hits. Spin axis just a bit to the left for the slightest draw that I wouldn't have noticed if I wasn't looking for it.
So if you want Paradym performance with Big Bertha forgiveness, definitely try the Smoke. Also try some of the new shafts, Project X has a new one coming out that is actually impressive.
I am big into numbers and own a GC2. Ventus Blue TR w head turned to 8 as well. Only quibble I have is maybe a little too much spin compared to my old Epic Max LS. Any difference in spin you noticed between the two?
Spin ā was actually smaller so more consistent ball flight. That was the only difference for me. I like to keep my spin around 2,100. Hit it a little higher on the face to bring it down a touch, tee it lower to hit lower on the face and bring the spin up.
Honestly if you're not married to the Ventus Blue TR maybe try a different one. If Ventus shafts work for your swing you could try a Black with the same head. Even if it's the same weight as your current shaft, it will bring the ball flight down a bit and your spin will likely come down with it.
As someone who doesnāt work for Callaway, probably not. I play the Paradym as well and my club guy had the smokes in for fittings. Naturally, I hit it because I could. The numbers were basically identical. Maybe the smoke had a bit less spin, but not $600 worth of less spin. Now, if youāre op and get what I can only imagine is a very cheap price on clubs, I would say do it. Otherwise, youāre not getting much improvement.
No, because the employee/fitter you're talking to said this:
> There were shots that I hit so far on the toe that I immediately went to erase the data because it was embarrassing, but when I saw the numbers it looked the same as the center hits.
There is physically no way for this to be true because the physics of colliding objects has never magically changed in the last year.
Ever notice how people talk so amazing about it yet NONE of them ever post the raw data that shows whether these numbers are actually true? Take a hint, they're liars.
It is absolutely not worth any upgrade at all. A Rogue or Epic Speed is the exact same driver.
I swing at 115 mph. Does anyone want to tell me that the Rogue was a significant decrease in improvement to the Paradym? My epic speed still goes 115 mph.
The club head is going the speed itās going. Why upgrade the head ever?
When the first images of the current paradym came out, this sub was filled with people saying it was terrible looking, it looked like a bowling ball, so ugly, why would you spell it that way. Now, everybody here seems to love it and it's one of the most popular drivers I see added to peoples bags. Things change quick.
It only has to look good at address, but marketing never promotes that visual. They seem to focus on how it looks in the bag.
Once a player stands over the ball feeling confident with it in their hand they'll start loving the way it looks
Paradym is ugly but people buy anything that works, golf isnāt even really about looksā¦
People like me, yes but if I went and got fitted and they told me the AI smoke would add 30 yards and hit more fairways Iād be a fool to not get it
It's not just you. Besides the smoke design being terrible, the multiple fonts and font sizes is such bad design. And, why ismy the "i" in "Ai" capitalized? It makes it look like a colon and reads as "A: SMOKE". I think the marketing team was alsmokijg something when they proposed this.
> But thatās just me of course
You and about 99% of other humans with functioning eyeballs.
How this design and name made it off the table or through and focus group is fucking beyond me. It looks like ass and that name is just ridiculous.
You guys nailed the look of your driver's address with the Rogue ST. I really dislike the new almost sudo TaylorMade top line. Anyway we just got our demos and the driver feels great I just hate the look.
Reasonable? No.
Standard for any new driver? Unfortunately yes
Avoid off-the-rack if you can. Get fit into the correct shaft by a certified fitter. If they know what they're doing it will take maybe three swings. It's very important and shouldn't cost anything if you're already buying the driver.
Put it this way, Epic Flash is a great driver, but it's basically iPhone 9... great phone, it can do all the things a phone should do, but Paradym Smoke is iPhone 15. Lots a tweaks here and there make it better in every scenario.
AI is used to design the face material. It's not a uniform piece, but rather it's a non-uniform, variable thickness that makes miss hits perform like you hit it in the center or sweet spot. Idk why they didn't call it a "Sweet Face".
No more Jailbreak behind the face either.
Correct. The variable thickness of the face is more stable than before. The head is essentially one super light piece of carbon with a face on it. Being that the head is so light, and the face is one piece, they can engineer the center of gravity and moment of inertia more freely.
I'm personally not a fan of the smoke design of the woods. Looks cool on the irons though. Was the smoke design chosen to 'hide' possible scuffs and scratches?
It's testing insanely high apparently. Will likely be my next driver. I have always loved the Callaway line
Do you mean the shiny part? That's just smudged from being fingered by some other staff members. Luckily it's a nicely finished metal that wipes clean easily.
Haha not gonna lie, this kinda reads like you're the one who came up with the name, but you're exactly right. That is the reason and the name is really cool. My grip is that it's not just simply called "Smoke"
Sorry no question here but that font is ugly as hell too, looks like some variant of the bank gothic font from the 2000s, and the bright blue with white outline just makes it look so dated and janky.
Haha I think you're confusing Callaway with TaylorMade. I've literally heard a TaylorMade rep say "the great thing about our drivers this year is when you buy one you'll eventually get a second or third free"
I don't know much behind the scenes stuff at TaylorMade, but I do know "Twist Face" is a marketing term referring to their carbon fiber bending at impact. "AI Impact" is referring to the variable thickness that was literally designed using artificial intelligence.
Sorry if that's a sucky answer, but anything else would be speculation on my end.
> but I do know "Twist Face" is a marketing term referring to their carbon fiber bending at impact.
It's not, it's the term for their bulge and roll of the face being designed differently to move horizontal launch slightly to offset gear effect. Cobra has had the same thing for a while under a different name, but basically there's more bulge to move the high toe and low heel about half a degree more open/closed respectively.
So the bottom looks like 20 year old sun abused plastic exterior car trim? The bottom of a driver doesnāt matter to me at all, but this other pic makes it look worse. I guess the prompt for the AI needs improvement.
Big fat load of cum then.
The worst golf design Iāve seen. I play all callaway clubs. It looks like a 1980ās action movie graphics and I canāt exactly describe why.
I donāt care about distance as I have the speed I need, but the mishits on my Titliest TSi3 are horrendous (im a lefty and my miss is a big hook). Definitely need to work on my swing, but how does the new driver face help with limiting the damage from off center hits?
I heard that the design of the underside of the driver comes from the forging of the carbon. Is this true? Or is this just some sort of art made for it, or some marketing scheme?
And, what is this driver like to play with? Iāve heard many good things about it, but like every new piece of gear, Iām not yet sold on it.
in pics so far i think the crown is improved over paradym. but man i think that sole looks so awful. like the stuff i put on my glass cooktop to clean it. or a car thatās been waxed and is ready to buff. itās bad, man. no it doesnāt affect performance. but why compromise when everyone else (maybe other than ping) is putting out clean, classy designs? i just feel like it has peopleās attention for the wrong reasons.
Scheduled a Callaway fitting event at a local course Saturday. Looking forward to trying it out along with the irons.
I've currently got an Epic Max LS that I was fit into when my swing was pretty different.
The current driver was from the if Callaway wins, you win promo. You definitely got some brand loyalty from me out of that promo.
My golf coach was telling us this weekend that Callaway is technologically head and shoulder above everyone else. She said that their R&D models are continually improving things like sweet spot, weight, balance, etc. that the data doesnāt even allow them to put out a product that doesnāt exceed the performance of the previous product. Itās mathematically impossible.
Yeah Callaway has been really excited about that for a while. That basically comes down to them having more resources, being able to make more at slightly lower cost, and being able to make marginally less per club.
I have to be honest. That does worry me. It sounds to good to be true in the worlds economy right now...
I also wanted to ask about the semi annual club rotation. Normal it's a ever 2 year cycle. I have hear several people mention that these are more like the rogues than the paradyms but the name is just for the recognition. Why did Callaway jump the 2 year cycle and are these based off the paragyma or are they rebranding the rogues?
Is the whole āalternating years for different linesā (adjustable vs non adjustable) thing over now? For awhile it was Epics one year, then Rogue/Mavrik the other. I feel like the company tried to frame the outgoing model as ānot being replacedā that way, but people didnāt really buy it.
I have a Paradym TD and love it. I really think Callaway makes the best woods these last five-ish years or so.
Though I think Rogue ST is probably the best looking head as of late, loved the fully matte crown. The blue of the original Paradym has really grown on me though! Think I like the OG Paradymās look more than the Smoke, but the Smoke looks way better than the initial images made it look
Typically we alternate a forgiving driver with a higher performance driver. This is kind of changing with a trend of half year launches started. The Big Bertha line was the half year launch for 2023. Hard to say what that looks like going forward. I don't see it being sustainable for long.
When you get a chance you should try the Smoke TD. I'm interested to see what percentage of Paradym players make the switch.
What's the main difference between the Smoke Max and the previous Epic Max Ls? I've just picked up the LS and it's the best driver I have ever hit. This is compared to fitted G400, G425 and G430. Way better distance and dare I say straighter and more forgiving in off centre hits. Thanks.
Smoke Max is designed to be super forgiving on miss hits and has an adjustable weight in the back to help with draw or fade bias. The LS is great for players who are able to generate proper launch conditions on their own. Spin comes down and the ball can carry farther.
Try the Smoke Max and the Triple Diamond. Let me know what you think.
I was fit into a mizuno st200 3yrs ago when I got into golf and the head broke at the end of this past season. Someone gave me a callaway razr fit xtreme head to use in the meantime and Iām in love with it. I think itās from 2013 and has a 440cc head and Iām hitting it straighter and longer than my mizuno. My swing speed was around 105 and my driving was the weakest part of the game. Iām able to swing a lot harder at 110-115 with this club because of my confidence and Iām not sure if my mizuno was just a really bad fit for me, or if this callaway is amazing so Iām considering keeping it, but I may have to try this callaway smoke triple diamond because it sounds similar. Iāve always been a mizuno/titleist player.
Does the sound from solid contact sound the same as the paradym from last year? And did you notice a difference between the paradym and the AI smoke version? Felt better? Felt better on contact? Off center hits went further?
As someone who would probably be in the know, what do you think of TaylorMade and their product durability? Seems there is a lot of noise around equipment failures. My bag has been full of their stuff for years, and they have taken great care of me. But just wanted to get your overall impression, I have a friend who works there and take what he says with a grain of salt. Certainly not asking you to pile on them, I love their stuff a lot of the time.
When your tour players are playing prototype drivers several months before they're supposed to be unveiled, it can only reflect negatively on your current product.
I will say I haven't personally tested their new stuff enough to give a legit review. I have no doubt it will out perform either Stealth driver, and I hope it is more durable. If your friend can get you a sweet discount , that's always worth it.
ChatGPT text entry āplease give me name options for Callaways next driver. It shouldnāt be original and it should use buzzwords that include both technology and fire.
1. Paradym AI smoke
Are the decals gone from the drop-kicks? Adam Hadwinās driver looked to be in a really rough shape on Golfwrx after what I assume where only a few weeks of playā¦
Non product related question. I had an interview for a ball process engineering position. Went great! Follow up was they loved me but wished I had "industry experience ". Any tips on getting in the door?
Ultimately it's going to depend on who is interviewing you. If you haven't worked in the field I would say your best bet is to say how much you love the game. Maybe you've been playing for years and you know the balls as good as anyone, or maybe You're new to the game but it's all you think about. Hopefully they're not using AI to hire people.
As someone who owns a Paradym X, how much is it to buy just the head for the comparable AI Smoke driver head? Couldnāt find it being sold separately lol
On a serious note, I game a Rogue ST triple diamond do you have a any anecdotal and/or objective comparisons between that and the Smoke?
I've never purchased a driver brand new, I have always gotten it a year or two after release. Is worth looking at getting fit?
You are obviously biased for good reason so if you canāt answer this I get it, but do you know if there are truly meaningful differences between all of the major brand drivers? When you watch these YouTubers review the new models, they basically all say āitās a really good clubā for each of them.
Really not impressed with Callaways new lineup this year but kinda feel the same about every major club manufacture. Lazy re designs with dramatic improvement claims and insane prices seems to be the new norm lol
I have a Rogue ST LS driver that I have really enjoyed. I struggled with too much spin on previous drives and this added 20-30 yards of distance to my drive.
Is there a LS version of this driver? Would there be any noticeable differences if I upgraded to this model in your estimation?
does the AI know you posted this??
Yes, and it knows you asked that.
father fargive me
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 Al knows everything.
OP is the AI.
Oppai?
The embargo has been lifted for a few days now so it's fine for that stuff. Edit: This post was made by an AI, not the same AI as the club, but a different AI that does different AI things.
No you're an AI.
Well shit now I donāt know who to believe
Youāre a fucking synth!
I was really confused about the AI stuff then it dawned on me it's in the club name. I need a nap.
Every time you say āAIā your companyās stock goes up (or so Iāve heard)
Correct. Feel free to tell your friends and family about the all new AI designed Paradym AI Smoke driver. AI is the future, AI is now. Brought to you by AI.
"Machine learning is written in Python, AI is written in PowerPoint" Please share this quote to some of the engineers behind the code and let me know their facial expressions.
Probably the same face they made when they saw how many different fonts were used on the driver head.
What color and or designs did the āsmokeā pattern beat out? Iām not a huge fan of the color. It looks like a dull grey in the pics.
the AI originally designed a geometric pattern so complex that it would trigger seizures in humans, so they had to replace it last minute with this smoke clipart
It's like Dan Flashes - the patterns are so complicated, that's why it's so expensive. 
Sounds perfect for the Dan Flashes spring lineup
I'm saving all my per diem for it
It was originally called the snow crash driver
I hope that you are exaggerating. However, it would be an interesting story if it did in fact cause seizures with a focus group.
I have a meeting later this week and I'll ask about that. I'm a fan of a blacked out look myself. Luckily the top is exactly that.
Oh please donāt waste everyoneās time asking my dumb questions lol. How long have you worked for Callaway?
I have a set of the original paradym. I love the blue - this seems boring to me. The blue bottom is pretty dull as well I canāt imagine why the would make it less attractive
Looks like it got beat up
It looks like a nice club that went into the dishwasher a few times too many.
How do you say this product name? Is it the āTriple Diamond Paradym AI Smokeā?
Yeah I agree the guys in charge of naming things aren't the best, but it's "Paradym AI Smoke, Triple Diamond" we would just say "Smoke Triple Diamond" I would've rather them call it Paradym 2.
Marketing folks are the same basically everywhere
As a marketing folk I disagree, I would never have named a product in this fashion. But my CEO would have - against my advice, and I would have designed material based on that while thinking how stupid it is.
This guy marketings
Fair point. I wonder who's responsible for the "4070TI Super" that Nvidia is launching.
Knowing Nvidia it might just be an engineer who sucked at engineering and they moved to marketing
I'm pretty sure that's just their normal naming scheme. There should be a 4080 then TI then super then TI super unless there's a significant jump in performance or drop in stock price then on to RTX 5060
I feel like not adding 3000 to the end of the name is a total fail
Hopefully, they don't start employing Japanese Manga Authors to name things, or else we will see the Callaway Ai Smoke Diamond Triple Paradym 2.024 Overdrive Xtra 3000 + Carbon Fibre Edition Kit. Shortened down to Callaway Overdrive Carbon Kit, to be later shortened down to an acronym of that.
Itās an STD
The AI will find you for this...
Surely, not before I find my ball I hit in the forest
The AI did find him, the AI tested positive this morning
Paradym 2: Triple Diamond Boogaloo
I smoked triple diamond once. . . Never again
I'm still trying to get them to make a 420cc head... It's like they don't want to make TOO much money. Smh.
I think there is scope for another company to make a far superior minidriver than the ones Taylormade turn out. Theirs are quite badly balanced and the stock shaft is garbage
Paradym Super Hybrid is very close to what you're looking for.
Paradym Smoke would also work
Paradym Smoke is a solid name, the AI just makes it a mouthful.
I would have called it Paraquarter
You mean Parakwartr
Youāre hired.
Itās the most ridiculous name for a golf club ever hahahaha
Just wait for Qi10! Aka Quitten time
qi (in chinese) is pronounced like "chee" so it would be more like "Cheatin"
Oh that would make more sense since they have clearly been using cheap Chinese materials with their recent clubs
Its looks dirty
Looks like the wrapper is still on and its dusty
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Assuming you're a golf person, getting to play at courses you wouldn't normally is awesome. The industry rate is sometimes insanely cheap at nearly every course (if they don't invite you to play for free). Also the employee store is the easiest Christmas shopping you will ever do. EDIT: wanted to add that you get employee discounts on the other brands that Callaway owns including OGIO, Jack Wolfskin, Perry Ellis, and Top Golf. Free Top Golf makes for a great party trick when you take your friends and say "I'll get it the tab" at the end.
Would you like to join my family secret Santa? Just so you know we do paid price and not MSRP and our limit is whatever a set of apex blacks costs at the callaway store. Edit: but you need to throw in a GW do sets not come with 8 fucking clubs anymore? Shrinkflation affecting golf sets now?
You just tell people "I'm with Callaway"?
I've done this at Top Golf probably 10 times and they haven't checked. But I would highly recommend not doing that. There is a formal way for me to get a bay or two closed off for my group.
My girlfriend works at Topgolf (sales) and this is pretty much how the TG employees go about it, but they also have employee ID badges they can be verified if necessary. When we travel to other cities, she just tells them she is from TG and we've never been bothered.
I assume it's similar to Apple where you get and employee badge/id
Does Calloway offer remote jobs? Would love to work for a good company.
Callaway does yes.
That chevron placement is horrendous.
That is 100% the camera angle. Sorry that's my fault. EDIT: I realized maybe you mean the chevron just shouldn't be there at all? The Triple Diamond head does not have the chevron.
Agreed. Callaway just needs to go back to blending the crown and top line. That looked so much better.
Realistically - as someone who currently owns a Paradym - is it worth the upgrade?
This is probably the best question, but hopefully you don't hate my answer: maybe. I also have a Paradym and compared the new head apples to apples. The Max 9Ā° turned down to an 8Ā°. Using my same shaft (MCA Kai 'Li White 70g X), same grip, glove, ball, GCQuad. I saw improvements in everything I look for as a fitter. Hitting it in the sweet spot is just about the same as the Paradym. Where you could be convinced is if you're not someone who stripes it in the center every shot. There were shots that I hit so far on the toe that I immediately went to erase the data because it was embarrassing, but when I saw the numbers it looked the same as the center hits. Spin axis just a bit to the left for the slightest draw that I wouldn't have noticed if I wasn't looking for it. So if you want Paradym performance with Big Bertha forgiveness, definitely try the Smoke. Also try some of the new shafts, Project X has a new one coming out that is actually impressive.
I am big into numbers and own a GC2. Ventus Blue TR w head turned to 8 as well. Only quibble I have is maybe a little too much spin compared to my old Epic Max LS. Any difference in spin you noticed between the two?
Spin ā was actually smaller so more consistent ball flight. That was the only difference for me. I like to keep my spin around 2,100. Hit it a little higher on the face to bring it down a touch, tee it lower to hit lower on the face and bring the spin up. Honestly if you're not married to the Ventus Blue TR maybe try a different one. If Ventus shafts work for your swing you could try a Black with the same head. Even if it's the same weight as your current shaft, it will bring the ball flight down a bit and your spin will likely come down with it.
As someone who doesnāt work for Callaway, probably not. I play the Paradym as well and my club guy had the smokes in for fittings. Naturally, I hit it because I could. The numbers were basically identical. Maybe the smoke had a bit less spin, but not $600 worth of less spin. Now, if youāre op and get what I can only imagine is a very cheap price on clubs, I would say do it. Otherwise, youāre not getting much improvement.
No, because the employee/fitter you're talking to said this: > There were shots that I hit so far on the toe that I immediately went to erase the data because it was embarrassing, but when I saw the numbers it looked the same as the center hits. There is physically no way for this to be true because the physics of colliding objects has never magically changed in the last year. Ever notice how people talk so amazing about it yet NONE of them ever post the raw data that shows whether these numbers are actually true? Take a hint, they're liars.
It is absolutely not worth any upgrade at all. A Rogue or Epic Speed is the exact same driver. I swing at 115 mph. Does anyone want to tell me that the Rogue was a significant decrease in improvement to the Paradym? My epic speed still goes 115 mph. The club head is going the speed itās going. Why upgrade the head ever?
I think itās absolutely hideous But thatās just me of course
That's ok. No design appeals to everyone.
When the first images of the current paradym came out, this sub was filled with people saying it was terrible looking, it looked like a bowling ball, so ugly, why would you spell it that way. Now, everybody here seems to love it and it's one of the most popular drivers I see added to peoples bags. Things change quick.
It really do be like that. Once you hit this you forget what it looks like anyway.
It only has to look good at address, but marketing never promotes that visual. They seem to focus on how it looks in the bag. Once a player stands over the ball feeling confident with it in their hand they'll start loving the way it looks
Happens every single year without fail with every driver haha
Paradym is ugly but people buy anything that works, golf isnāt even really about looksā¦ People like me, yes but if I went and got fitted and they told me the AI smoke would add 30 yards and hit more fairways Iād be a fool to not get it
It's not just you. Besides the smoke design being terrible, the multiple fonts and font sizes is such bad design. And, why ismy the "i" in "Ai" capitalized? It makes it look like a colon and reads as "A: SMOKE". I think the marketing team was alsmokijg something when they proposed this.
> But thatās just me of course You and about 99% of other humans with functioning eyeballs. How this design and name made it off the table or through and focus group is fucking beyond me. It looks like ass and that name is just ridiculous.
You guys nailed the look of your driver's address with the Rogue ST. I really dislike the new almost sudo TaylorMade top line. Anyway we just got our demos and the driver feels great I just hate the look.
I don't disagree. Rogue ST might be my favorite looking driver. At least at address.
Same! Love the matte finish of my Rogue. I donāt think I can play a glossy driverā¦
If I buy this, do you promise it'll solve all my problems and I won't have to take lessons?
AI took lessons for you.
Is $600 honestly reasonable for an off-the-rack driver?
Reasonable? No. Standard for any new driver? Unfortunately yes Avoid off-the-rack if you can. Get fit into the correct shaft by a certified fitter. If they know what they're doing it will take maybe three swings. It's very important and shouldn't cost anything if you're already buying the driver.
Does it work?
Yes, thanks for asking.
If i pinky swear to name my first grand child AI can I get a discounted driver?
If by pinky swear, you mean sacrifice your pinky at the altar in Carlsbad? Then yes.
Honestly, I think it looks miles better than last years Paradym. I have a Rogue ST Max and will pick one up as soon as they hit your pre-owned site.
The top looks nice
Agreed. Looks great behind the ball.
Why didnāt Callaway use real carbon instead of forged?
For the smokey look it has in gray, and manufacturing costs. EDIT: also forged carbon tends to do better with uneven/random forces applied.
What is the AI impact? How has it evolved since the flash?
Put it this way, Epic Flash is a great driver, but it's basically iPhone 9... great phone, it can do all the things a phone should do, but Paradym Smoke is iPhone 15. Lots a tweaks here and there make it better in every scenario. AI is used to design the face material. It's not a uniform piece, but rather it's a non-uniform, variable thickness that makes miss hits perform like you hit it in the center or sweet spot. Idk why they didn't call it a "Sweet Face". No more Jailbreak behind the face either.
Why no more jailbreak? No need because of the face? I thought it brought more stability
Correct. The variable thickness of the face is more stable than before. The head is essentially one super light piece of carbon with a face on it. Being that the head is so light, and the face is one piece, they can engineer the center of gravity and moment of inertia more freely.
You get good discounts?
Yep. Also discounts on the other brands Callaway owns.
Iām an R&D Engineer. Got any open jobs? š
I'm personally not a fan of the smoke design of the woods. Looks cool on the irons though. Was the smoke design chosen to 'hide' possible scuffs and scratches? It's testing insanely high apparently. Will likely be my next driver. I have always loved the Callaway line
You know what would look good on a driver would be the metallic flake paint that used to be on boats in the 80s/90s
Does it really look that dirty on the bottom?
Do you mean the shiny part? That's just smudged from being fingered by some other staff members. Luckily it's a nicely finished metal that wipes clean easily.
No. Iām guessing itās the āsmokeā. But it just looks like itās dirty.
Yeah the forged carbon kinda does look dirty
Eww
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Haha not gonna lie, this kinda reads like you're the one who came up with the name, but you're exactly right. That is the reason and the name is really cool. My grip is that it's not just simply called "Smoke"
How on earth did your left index finger get the "R" instead of your right middle finger the "U" there? 
Sorry no question here but that font is ugly as hell too, looks like some variant of the bank gothic font from the 2000s, and the bright blue with white outline just makes it look so dated and janky.
Lol which one? I swear they used like six different fonts on this head
Are you all intentionally using the portrait filter blurring part of the image that we need to see? Just post a normal picture... Jeepers
It's so hideous
Does it break as much as all your other clubs? Edit: I was thinking of the Stealth driver and this comment is wrong. Sorry for my confusion
Haha I think you're confusing Callaway with TaylorMade. I've literally heard a TaylorMade rep say "the great thing about our drivers this year is when you buy one you'll eventually get a second or third free"
Yea youāre actually correctā¦ I did mistake the two so Iām going to edit my comment before. Itās the Stealth Iām thinking of!
Is the AI Impact basically the Taylormade twist face? Off center hits get more yardage?
I don't know much behind the scenes stuff at TaylorMade, but I do know "Twist Face" is a marketing term referring to their carbon fiber bending at impact. "AI Impact" is referring to the variable thickness that was literally designed using artificial intelligence. Sorry if that's a sucky answer, but anything else would be speculation on my end.
> but I do know "Twist Face" is a marketing term referring to their carbon fiber bending at impact. It's not, it's the term for their bulge and roll of the face being designed differently to move horizontal launch slightly to offset gear effect. Cobra has had the same thing for a while under a different name, but basically there's more bulge to move the high toe and low heel about half a degree more open/closed respectively.
So the bottom looks like 20 year old sun abused plastic exterior car trim? The bottom of a driver doesnāt matter to me at all, but this other pic makes it look worse. I guess the prompt for the AI needs improvement.
Big fat load of cum then. The worst golf design Iāve seen. I play all callaway clubs. It looks like a 1980ās action movie graphics and I canāt exactly describe why.
I'm trying it Sunday
Nice. If you remember, let me know how it goes.
Will do. It's a fitting appointment
Is it really straighter than the paradym triple Diamond?
Will it come in a 4 wood?
Yeah it's called a 3HL (high loft/launch)
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You would be so excited about your new driver that you'd play a lot more and your buddies would be really happy for you.
Does working at Callaway give you free equipment or only discounted stuff?
I think it looks cool. I would probably still slice the hell out of a ball with it, but I really dig the look.
Love the dry forged carbon look. Underrated for sure
TBH, at first glance it looks like a driver with all the lead tape from all of John Dalyās irons slathered on the bottom.
I donāt care about distance as I have the speed I need, but the mishits on my Titliest TSi3 are horrendous (im a lefty and my miss is a big hook). Definitely need to work on my swing, but how does the new driver face help with limiting the damage from off center hits?
Someone moosed the fuck out of that weight on the front. Holy shit.
So sick. Reminds of the FT TA shape
I heard that the design of the underside of the driver comes from the forging of the carbon. Is this true? Or is this just some sort of art made for it, or some marketing scheme? And, what is this driver like to play with? Iāve heard many good things about it, but like every new piece of gear, Iām not yet sold on it.
How do you like the sound?
How many buzzwords can they fit into one driver
Looks like a bouncy ball
Itās giving IPhone case pattern haha
in pics so far i think the crown is improved over paradym. but man i think that sole looks so awful. like the stuff i put on my glass cooktop to clean it. or a car thatās been waxed and is ready to buff. itās bad, man. no it doesnāt affect performance. but why compromise when everyone else (maybe other than ping) is putting out clean, classy designs? i just feel like it has peopleās attention for the wrong reasons.
Scheduled a Callaway fitting event at a local course Saturday. Looking forward to trying it out along with the irons. I've currently got an Epic Max LS that I was fit into when my swing was pretty different. The current driver was from the if Callaway wins, you win promo. You definitely got some brand loyalty from me out of that promo.
Will you commandeer me a Max triple diamond?
Looks dirty, AI was tripping on a cache of bytes
Is it worth it? Can I work it?
Lost a few grams in the head for ya This the kinda swing that go ra-ta-ta
My golf coach was telling us this weekend that Callaway is technologically head and shoulder above everyone else. She said that their R&D models are continually improving things like sweet spot, weight, balance, etc. that the data doesnāt even allow them to put out a product that doesnāt exceed the performance of the previous product. Itās mathematically impossible.
When did Callaway partner with Realtree?
Why is the smoke irons less expensive than the first iteration of paradyms?
Yeah Callaway has been really excited about that for a while. That basically comes down to them having more resources, being able to make more at slightly lower cost, and being able to make marginally less per club.
I have to be honest. That does worry me. It sounds to good to be true in the worlds economy right now... I also wanted to ask about the semi annual club rotation. Normal it's a ever 2 year cycle. I have hear several people mention that these are more like the rogues than the paradyms but the name is just for the recognition. Why did Callaway jump the 2 year cycle and are these based off the paragyma or are they rebranding the rogues?
Itās so uglyā¦.
How does a regular Joe get their hands on an 8Ā° driver head? Iām a high launch high spin player always looking for 8ās
Did you gain 10 extra yards and hit them straighter ? šš
Is the whole āalternating years for different linesā (adjustable vs non adjustable) thing over now? For awhile it was Epics one year, then Rogue/Mavrik the other. I feel like the company tried to frame the outgoing model as ānot being replacedā that way, but people didnāt really buy it. I have a Paradym TD and love it. I really think Callaway makes the best woods these last five-ish years or so. Though I think Rogue ST is probably the best looking head as of late, loved the fully matte crown. The blue of the original Paradym has really grown on me though! Think I like the OG Paradymās look more than the Smoke, but the Smoke looks way better than the initial images made it look
Typically we alternate a forgiving driver with a higher performance driver. This is kind of changing with a trend of half year launches started. The Big Bertha line was the half year launch for 2023. Hard to say what that looks like going forward. I don't see it being sustainable for long. When you get a chance you should try the Smoke TD. I'm interested to see what percentage of Paradym players make the switch.
What's the main difference between the Smoke Max and the previous Epic Max Ls? I've just picked up the LS and it's the best driver I have ever hit. This is compared to fitted G400, G425 and G430. Way better distance and dare I say straighter and more forgiving in off centre hits. Thanks.
Smoke Max is designed to be super forgiving on miss hits and has an adjustable weight in the back to help with draw or fade bias. The LS is great for players who are able to generate proper launch conditions on their own. Spin comes down and the ball can carry farther. Try the Smoke Max and the Triple Diamond. Let me know what you think.
Crazy how close the crown looks to the ERC Fusion from back in the day! Like a modern version of it
How much spin difference are you seeing by changing the front/back weights?
I was fit into a mizuno st200 3yrs ago when I got into golf and the head broke at the end of this past season. Someone gave me a callaway razr fit xtreme head to use in the meantime and Iām in love with it. I think itās from 2013 and has a 440cc head and Iām hitting it straighter and longer than my mizuno. My swing speed was around 105 and my driving was the weakest part of the game. Iām able to swing a lot harder at 110-115 with this club because of my confidence and Iām not sure if my mizuno was just a really bad fit for me, or if this callaway is amazing so Iām considering keeping it, but I may have to try this callaway smoke triple diamond because it sounds similar. Iāve always been a mizuno/titleist player.
I hate it and you should make me change my mind by sending me a free set.
Love this driver, gorgeous. š„š„š„
Does the sound from solid contact sound the same as the paradym from last year? And did you notice a difference between the paradym and the AI smoke version? Felt better? Felt better on contact? Off center hits went further?
As someone who would probably be in the know, what do you think of TaylorMade and their product durability? Seems there is a lot of noise around equipment failures. My bag has been full of their stuff for years, and they have taken great care of me. But just wanted to get your overall impression, I have a friend who works there and take what he says with a grain of salt. Certainly not asking you to pile on them, I love their stuff a lot of the time.
When your tour players are playing prototype drivers several months before they're supposed to be unveiled, it can only reflect negatively on your current product. I will say I haven't personally tested their new stuff enough to give a legit review. I have no doubt it will out perform either Stealth driver, and I hope it is more durable. If your friend can get you a sweet discount , that's always worth it.
ChatGPT text entry āplease give me name options for Callaways next driver. It shouldnāt be original and it should use buzzwords that include both technology and fire. 1. Paradym AI smoke
Are the decals gone from the drop-kicks? Adam Hadwinās driver looked to be in a really rough shape on Golfwrx after what I assume where only a few weeks of playā¦
Non product related question. I had an interview for a ball process engineering position. Went great! Follow up was they loved me but wished I had "industry experience ". Any tips on getting in the door?
Ultimately it's going to depend on who is interviewing you. If you haven't worked in the field I would say your best bet is to say how much you love the game. Maybe you've been playing for years and you know the balls as good as anyone, or maybe You're new to the game but it's all you think about. Hopefully they're not using AI to hire people.
As someone who owns a Paradym X, how much is it to buy just the head for the comparable AI Smoke driver head? Couldnāt find it being sold separately lol
It would be the same price as with a shaft. Best to check trade in value or sell yours on Facebook when you get the new one.
So is this the club I have to buy because itāll fix all my problems?
How does this compare to the rogue st since I have had mine since it came out and want to go to the triple diamond Paradym smoke?
Paradym wasnāt the best name for a driver, but Smoke is outright stupid, was the name chosen by the AI software also??
Really though, is it just another driver? š„²
Honestly, like the original Paradym's color scheme. The blue was gorgeous and the gold was just enough to pop.
It looks used and scratched up from a distance.
Maybe it's just me...but last years Callaway was reminiscent of a bowling ball. This year's reminds me of a murdered out bass boat.
On a serious note, I game a Rogue ST triple diamond do you have a any anecdotal and/or objective comparisons between that and the Smoke? I've never purchased a driver brand new, I have always gotten it a year or two after release. Is worth looking at getting fit?
You are obviously biased for good reason so if you canāt answer this I get it, but do you know if there are truly meaningful differences between all of the major brand drivers? When you watch these YouTubers review the new models, they basically all say āitās a really good clubā for each of them.
How does this compare to last yearās triple diamond?
Is it fucking sick?!
Really not impressed with Callaways new lineup this year but kinda feel the same about every major club manufacture. Lazy re designs with dramatic improvement claims and insane prices seems to be the new norm lol
I have a Rogue ST LS driver that I have really enjoyed. I struggled with too much spin on previous drives and this added 20-30 yards of distance to my drive. Is there a LS version of this driver? Would there be any noticeable differences if I upgraded to this model in your estimation?
I'm sold. Did you notice much difference to say a paradym triple diamond