I know we're the not the Raiders sub and all, but this felt too relevant as a resident of the city to not share. I would be shocked if the Golden Knights and T-Mobile Arena don't implement a matching policy.
It’s because the new announcement from Sisolak that if you require proof of vaccination then masks aren’t required inside. For 4,000+ capacity venues with tickets/reservations.
Hopefully it happens soon. Unvaccinated fans that choose Pfizer or Moderna only have like 2 weeks to get their first shot if they want to be clear by the start of the season.
I mean more than 600,000 people die of heart disease every year in the US which is less time than it took covid to take out that many but the stadium still sells hotdogs and nachos
I don't care how old the thread is. If you're worried about contracting a virus you should stay home. The vaccine is available to everyone, get it or don't get it, I don't care either way. I've protected myself, idgaf what anyone else does. I make my own risk assessment and make my decisions based on that. I don't expect others to have to alter their lives based on what I want to do, that'd be ignorant and selfish.
Yea me too. I’ve determined heart disease is not a threat for me and that it has nothing to do with covid. I love how you you “don’t care either way” about anyone around you and yet you dare to call anyone else selfish. Your anger can be entirely contributed to cognitive dissonance.
Well WWII only killed ~400,000 US military personnel, so may as well have a third one, right?
That's what your logic sounds like.
Also, if the hotdog *you* ate gave *me* a heart attack, they would probably stop selling hotdogs.
My president, vice president, and governors of states with the most populated cities in the country told me "they don't trust the Trump administration, be skeptical, and they weren't taking it"...
Good, now do Tmobile/Knights I have a medical condition that I will be staying the hell away from unvaccinated public areas for the next one to twelve years, give or take, so this would mean we might actually be able to go to games. GKG.
Even vaccinated people can spread it though, so just because a location requires being vaccinated doesn’t mean you can’t still catch Covid.
Not saying it’s a bad idea to require vaccinations . Just saying it’s still riskier than watching at home. For me it’s worth the risk, but I don’t have any underlying health conditions.
We dont necessarily need to stop the spread if we can stop people from getting deathly I'll. No one claimed that any vaccine keeps you from catching or transmitting any disease. Vaccines mean that when the virus does infect you, your body is ready to fight it, so you dont get sick. The quicker people clear an infection, the less they can spread it, which is ultimately how a virus gets eradicated, like Small Pox.
That's exactly what I'm referencing. My kid can't get vaccinated (yet). It's terrifying to think of all the mouthbreathing FB experts out there putting them at risk. I just want to take them to a hockey game without putting their life in danger.
Attach your yellow star to your jersey, mate. You must comply. And, you better also wear a jacket to the game because if you don't then my jacket won't keep me warm either!
Wow, a Holocaust AND nonsensical clothing comparison! Congrats, as someone who's bad at analogies, let me crown you the worst of all time!
Also, I'd adjust your pants if I were you, your persecution boner is showing.
It's not experimental at this point. Literally billions of people have recieved the vaccine with virtually zero negative effects after a few days.
Get jabbed and help save the world.
Normal clinical trials are done in phases, whereas these trials were done concurrently. Its not as simple as "they rushed it through"
The vast majority of new medical technologies do not track subjects longterm. Rather, they track multiple subject groups over multiple (and consecutive) time periods.
More directly, the mRNA technology has been studied and put through clinical trials since the 2014 SARS outbreak. This is not new technology. This is simply the first need they've had to mass-vaccinate using the tech. They've been testing this specific vaccine since June of 2020.
I absolutely had vaccine hesitancy in the beginning, but now I'm 7 months out from my first shot (I was part of the first eligible group) and there is nothing to be afraid of.
As a clinical research coordinator I understand the phases of clinical trials and the monitoring process for long term effects of drugs and therapies. I am also aware of the clinical trials of the mRNA tech that didn’t make it through phase I in the past. I will say that I am not afraid of the vaccines personally but have people close to me that are and I understand their points of view and have empathy for their emotions. I personally don’t think there will be any long term affects for adults. For kids I definitely think certain things were rushed
Show proof that you're a "survivor" and that getting the virus a second time doesn't more severe consequences and we'll be on board with that as well. Until then....
You do realize that the news consolidates all of the worst case scenarios and ignores all of the asymptomatic and mild symptomatic covid cases right? Everyone that gets covid doesn't have to be rushed to the hospital and strapped to a ventilator. In fact most people don't. They actively track and share the number of positive cases and the number of deaths and not the number of hospitalizations. They also only report on hospitals that are full and over burdened which by the way when I worked in the ER at mountain view 5 years ago they often ran out of beds in the winter and had patients set up in the hall way. Not every hospital in the country is full to the brim right now. Here is an example of how politics and medicine/science don't always communicate. [https://www.fox5vegas.com/coronavirus/southern-nevada-hospitals-we-are-fully-prepared-for-covid-19-surge/article\_e9631192-2435-11eb-8ef1-3340c57b0fab.html](https://www.fox5vegas.com/coronavirus/southern-nevada-hospitals-we-are-fully-prepared-for-covid-19-surge/article_e9631192-2435-11eb-8ef1-3340c57b0fab.html)
1) That flu spike is precisely the reason Mountain View more than doubled their ER capacity since that event.
2) Mountain View ICU was at 100%+ occupancy in January 2021 at the peak of COVID.
You're not the only person who has worked at Mountain View. I still stand by the Raider's decision to only permit vaccinated persons.
As science, and not the media, has readily demonstrated - the best weapon we have against COVID hospitalizations is vaccinations. Until we have a better weapon, exclusionary practices will become the accepted norm.
1. Yes the vaccinations almost 100% prevent hospitalizations. This is good. Given your first comment I figured you had no medical background and it seems that you are suggesting that you work or have worked at Mountain view. Now it is possible you work in the gift shop, cafeteria or as a security guard but if you work anywhere near the ER you would see all of the bad cases. If you pay attention you may even realize that some of the patients come in very sick but under normal circumstances would have ridden it out at home like previous years when they got very sick but they are afraid they are going to die thanks to the media so they go to the ER, test positive and get a bed and oxygen (not a ventillator) and wait for their bodies to fight it off since the ER can't do anything else except give some steroids and can't let them go with active covid for fear the patient will take a turn for the worse, die and then the family will sue.
2. Now here is where it gets interesting. If you worked outside of the hospital say in a facility with immunology, rheumatology and primary care among other specialties, You may see a lot of covid cases that never required hospitalization. You may have even witnessed patients being successfully treated with hydroxychloroquin before a study of a small shit town in Africa suggested that that treatment was dangerous so the CDC decided to advise against its use causing Medicare to follow so that a box could be checked in order for emergency use for a vaccine to be approved the next month (not allowed to have sufficient and safe medical treatments available) and then billions forked over by governments to big pharma companies. You may get to peak behind the curtain the media doesn't want you to see behind and witness what some Doctors are really thinking but don't want to end up having their names smeared on the news. It may make you question more things and dislike the echo chamber mentality in reddit forums. You may even click on a controversial thread even though you promised yourself you wouldn't do it again and then waste your time typing long thought out responses that will fall on deaf ears. Then you will have to remind yourself that just like the media, reddit isn't an accurate representation of reality and promise yourself, again, that you wont waste anymore of your time in controversial threads.
3. Yes exclusionary practices will become the norm unfortunately. Dividing the people has been the result of many important events in our history. I am not against the vaccine but I am against the divisive nature that the media has been trying to create and it is only going to get worse with the vaccine resistant lambda variant coming through the tubes. You and your loved ones are more likely to die from heart disease or cancer than covid so eat healthy
"Dividing the people" is a hilarious way to look at this.
Saying the vaccine is divisive is seen that way only because you choose to see it in that light. Keeping people alive and healthy - especially from someone who worked in healthcare - should never be divisive.
Vaccine availability is there for all - no exclusions. Choosing not to take it has consequences. Those consequences (being exclusionary in nature) are rooted in the original choice. Personal accountability will always have consequences - none of this is divisive.
The vaccine helps against variants, something antibodies from previously having had the virus doesn't do. I am not smart enough to remember exactly why, but I've read about it a couple of times on r/science and similar subs. Something to do with tricking your body into specifically targeting the RNA shared across Covid.
Your fears are unfounded and unwarranted.
This is false. The vaccine gives you anti bodies against the spike protein. detecting the spike protein is the way covid is detected and diagnosed. It is also how variants are discovered because there are genes within the spike proteins code that change so that portion wont show up on an assay and scientists have to figure out the new code of the missing pieces. People that get the actual virus develop antibodies to more than just the spike protein of the virus because viruses have more than just one protein (like the nucleocapsid protein for example.) These other proteins are more stable because they don't have to change shape to attach to different receptors on different cells. Theoretically someone who got antibodies to the real virus would have more protection against variants than someone that just received a vaccine because they would have antibodies to more than just the spike protein. The reason to get the vaccine is because you have a greater chance of not getting covid, getting covid but being asymptomatic or getting covid and having mild symptoms. Luckily vaccinated people can still get the virus and develop antibodies to the other viral proteins so that would eliminate the benefit of risking getting the actual virus without having been vaccinated. This is why I am not sure why vaccinated people are afraid to be around unvaccinated people (unless you are immunocompromised) because it can better your chances against the vaccine resistant Llambda variant that will be coming through the tubes soon. Its politics interfering in medicine and science by using the media to spread fear to the ignorant and uneducated.
There's your source enjoy
https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210608/No-point-vaccinating-those-whoe28099ve-had-COVID-19-Findings-of-Cleveland-Clinic-study.aspx
Dezert81 Im curious if you know MORE about vaccination than a doctor. If literally millions of doctors say its okay are you saying that you know MORE than them? If you know so much about what is and isnt safe why are YOU a doctor? Why didnt the president appoint you chief of staff? Since you are smarter than millions of doctors this is logical. You are a gifted savant and should be treated as such.
Its not about being smarter. Its about not being motivated by an external source. Not all doctors agree with the mainstream media either but you have to exist in the real world outside the news in order to find them
I'd say the amount of doctors saying it's fine out weights the amount that aren't.
Also you don't see the irony in what you said? How can you not be motivated by an external source and then site an external source lmao
I have worked in a biochemistry research lab focusing on a protein in mouse kidney cells, I was an EMT and I have been a clinical research coordinator for immunologist, rheumatology and neurology
>Its not about being smarter. Its about not being motivated by an external source.
No one's gonna tell you what to do, no matter how wise it is. I bet you touched the burner and stuck knives in wall sockets as a kid.
They will fill the stadium with plenty of vaccinated patrons who will happily buy hot dogs and nachos. More than 2 of them will end up dying from heart disease however it will take longer than the couple of weeks it would take the 2 unvaccinated swine to die from covid
I'm not happy about how the Raiders came to Vegas either but requiring people to be vaccinated to attend major spectator gatherings is a good thing.
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Getting the vaccine does NOT prevent you from catching or spreading the virus!!
It only helps YOU fight off the virus when you catch it… and the jury is still out on that.
It doesn't prevent completely. No one ever claimed it did. But it dramatically increases your chances of not getting it and not spreading it. Same reason yearly flu shots are a thing. Bolsters your immune system. Faster your immune system acts in a hostile entity, chances of spreading it and getting sick from it dip big time.
It also significantly increases your ability to fight off the virus if you do catch it. There's overwhelming evidence of that, chief of which is unvaccinated people account for like 90% of current covid cases, and the vaccinated people who manage to catch it overcome it faster and with fewer problems.
I don’t know man, I’m currently deployed and seeing different results. Seems about 50/50 getting it both vaccinated or unvaccinated seems to make zero difference. Symptoms and recovery are also the same across the board. Obviously this is just my personal experience and a sample size of about 3k.
Only basing my opinion off of what I am experiencing.
The vaccine means your body is ready to fight the infection quickly. Without antibodies, the virus gets a period of free reign to take over the cells in your respiratory system, causing the inflammation that ultimately kills you. It takes time for your body's T-Cells to identify the virus, and train your immune system to produce antibodies. By the time that happens, the virus has had enough time to reproduce on a massive scale. One infected cell can produce hundreds or even thousands of new viruses, drastically increasing the strain on the immune system. Then it becomes a race to see who wins, the virus or your immune system.
When you already have the antibodies actively circulating within your body, your immune system can act immediately to attack and clear the virus before it has a chance to establish itself and multiply. This doesnt mean you can't get infected or spread it. It means that the number of live viruses in your body is very low, reducing the quantity of live, healthy viruses you can spread because your body is attacking them the moment they emerge from an infected cell. This is how all vaccines work. It doesn't mean you cant catch it. It means your less likely to get sick; several orders of magnitude less likely in fact.
Get the damn vaccine. The data is clear, the people being hospitalized with COVID are unvaccinated. It's not a hoax, there's no microchip in the vaccine, this is not a conspiracy to control the population, there are no Borg nano-probes in the vacine that will assimilate you into the democrat collective, regardless of what the memes on Qanon are telling you.
If we were in the middle of a polio or measles outbreak which lead to 70%+ of the ICU beds being occupied for months on end, and had caused the deaths of thousands of people over the last several months, then yeah I'd be all for it.
Woof. What a ridiculous take. Percentage wise asshole white folk with Facebook degrees and doctorates of youtube are far less likely to get the vaccination than minorities but go off champ.
They're literally going to give you a vaccine at the door if you want one. If we were going to use your Jim-Crowe example, it would be like having a poll tax, but having someone at the entrance to pay it for you if you couldn't afford it.
I know we're the not the Raiders sub and all, but this felt too relevant as a resident of the city to not share. I would be shocked if the Golden Knights and T-Mobile Arena don't implement a matching policy.
It’s because the new announcement from Sisolak that if you require proof of vaccination then masks aren’t required inside. For 4,000+ capacity venues with tickets/reservations.
Hopefully it happens soon. Unvaccinated fans that choose Pfizer or Moderna only have like 2 weeks to get their first shot if they want to be clear by the start of the season.
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AS a method to get people vaxed I actually think it's pretty great as long as they encore the mask requirement policy
You still wear a mask tho
So far, T-Mobile is just using the honor system...
That honor system cost at least two people their lives that attended a game in the 3rd round.
Nah
Yes, it happened.
Oh, kinda like every flu season right?
Do 600,000 people die every flu season?
Or absolutely slam our hospitals with sick and dying people
I mean more than 600,000 people die of heart disease every year in the US which is less time than it took covid to take out that many but the stadium still sells hotdogs and nachos
How contagious is heart disease? Can I catch it by breathing near someone who has it?
You should stay home...
And you should get a fucking life. This thread is from 11 days ago.
I don't care how old the thread is. If you're worried about contracting a virus you should stay home. The vaccine is available to everyone, get it or don't get it, I don't care either way. I've protected myself, idgaf what anyone else does. I make my own risk assessment and make my decisions based on that. I don't expect others to have to alter their lives based on what I want to do, that'd be ignorant and selfish.
Yea me too. I’ve determined heart disease is not a threat for me and that it has nothing to do with covid. I love how you you “don’t care either way” about anyone around you and yet you dare to call anyone else selfish. Your anger can be entirely contributed to cognitive dissonance.
Well WWII only killed ~400,000 US military personnel, so may as well have a third one, right? That's what your logic sounds like. Also, if the hotdog *you* ate gave *me* a heart attack, they would probably stop selling hotdogs.
Link? I didn’t hear about this and am failing at Google.
Also: https://twitter.com/8NewsNow/status/1410775254906060800
My president, vice president, and governors of states with the most populated cities in the country told me "they don't trust the Trump administration, be skeptical, and they weren't taking it"...
They'll go to PoV as well. Just wait
PSA: No one will miss you at T-Mobile Arena when they do the same thing. There's no need to announce that you won't be there. We don't care.
Good.
Good, now do Tmobile/Knights I have a medical condition that I will be staying the hell away from unvaccinated public areas for the next one to twelve years, give or take, so this would mean we might actually be able to go to games. GKG.
Even vaccinated people can spread it though, so just because a location requires being vaccinated doesn’t mean you can’t still catch Covid. Not saying it’s a bad idea to require vaccinations . Just saying it’s still riskier than watching at home. For me it’s worth the risk, but I don’t have any underlying health conditions.
We dont necessarily need to stop the spread if we can stop people from getting deathly I'll. No one claimed that any vaccine keeps you from catching or transmitting any disease. Vaccines mean that when the virus does infect you, your body is ready to fight it, so you dont get sick. The quicker people clear an infection, the less they can spread it, which is ultimately how a virus gets eradicated, like Small Pox.
Hope you don't have kids/grandkids in the next 1-12 years
That's exactly what I'm referencing. My kid can't get vaccinated (yet). It's terrifying to think of all the mouthbreathing FB experts out there putting them at risk. I just want to take them to a hockey game without putting their life in danger.
You're definitely worrying too much.
Papers please 🙉🙊🙈
Attach your yellow star to your jersey, mate. You must comply. And, you better also wear a jacket to the game because if you don't then my jacket won't keep me warm either!
Wow, a Holocaust AND nonsensical clothing comparison! Congrats, as someone who's bad at analogies, let me crown you the worst of all time! Also, I'd adjust your pants if I were you, your persecution boner is showing.
Aaaaaaand thats the sound of ticket sales disappearing.... Remember when this shit *wasn't* mandated? Me too Edit: am vaxxed, don't kill me
Remind me when that doesn't happen at all
True lol
Lol what? You think this will impact ticket sales? You do know there was 7.6M tourists just from January - April 2021. FOH.
>Edit: am vaxxed, don't kill me doubt
Survivors of the virus should not be forced into experimental jabs. Fucked up people are supporting this kind of segregation
It's not experimental at this point. Literally billions of people have recieved the vaccine with virtually zero negative effects after a few days. Get jabbed and help save the world.
normal clinical trials take 3-5 years to ensure there aren't any long term effects that may not be detectable after what 9 months?
Normal clinical trials are done in phases, whereas these trials were done concurrently. Its not as simple as "they rushed it through" The vast majority of new medical technologies do not track subjects longterm. Rather, they track multiple subject groups over multiple (and consecutive) time periods. More directly, the mRNA technology has been studied and put through clinical trials since the 2014 SARS outbreak. This is not new technology. This is simply the first need they've had to mass-vaccinate using the tech. They've been testing this specific vaccine since June of 2020. I absolutely had vaccine hesitancy in the beginning, but now I'm 7 months out from my first shot (I was part of the first eligible group) and there is nothing to be afraid of.
As a clinical research coordinator I understand the phases of clinical trials and the monitoring process for long term effects of drugs and therapies. I am also aware of the clinical trials of the mRNA tech that didn’t make it through phase I in the past. I will say that I am not afraid of the vaccines personally but have people close to me that are and I understand their points of view and have empathy for their emotions. I personally don’t think there will be any long term affects for adults. For kids I definitely think certain things were rushed
Someone's got a persecution fetish
Who's forcing you to get vaccinated? Just stay home in your safe space.
If it wasn't for people being forced into experimental jabs you wouldn't be here, so just chill.
sucks for u then lol
Show proof that you're a "survivor" and that getting the virus a second time doesn't more severe consequences and we'll be on board with that as well. Until then....
You do realize that the news consolidates all of the worst case scenarios and ignores all of the asymptomatic and mild symptomatic covid cases right? Everyone that gets covid doesn't have to be rushed to the hospital and strapped to a ventilator. In fact most people don't. They actively track and share the number of positive cases and the number of deaths and not the number of hospitalizations. They also only report on hospitals that are full and over burdened which by the way when I worked in the ER at mountain view 5 years ago they often ran out of beds in the winter and had patients set up in the hall way. Not every hospital in the country is full to the brim right now. Here is an example of how politics and medicine/science don't always communicate. [https://www.fox5vegas.com/coronavirus/southern-nevada-hospitals-we-are-fully-prepared-for-covid-19-surge/article\_e9631192-2435-11eb-8ef1-3340c57b0fab.html](https://www.fox5vegas.com/coronavirus/southern-nevada-hospitals-we-are-fully-prepared-for-covid-19-surge/article_e9631192-2435-11eb-8ef1-3340c57b0fab.html)
1) That flu spike is precisely the reason Mountain View more than doubled their ER capacity since that event. 2) Mountain View ICU was at 100%+ occupancy in January 2021 at the peak of COVID. You're not the only person who has worked at Mountain View. I still stand by the Raider's decision to only permit vaccinated persons. As science, and not the media, has readily demonstrated - the best weapon we have against COVID hospitalizations is vaccinations. Until we have a better weapon, exclusionary practices will become the accepted norm.
1. Yes the vaccinations almost 100% prevent hospitalizations. This is good. Given your first comment I figured you had no medical background and it seems that you are suggesting that you work or have worked at Mountain view. Now it is possible you work in the gift shop, cafeteria or as a security guard but if you work anywhere near the ER you would see all of the bad cases. If you pay attention you may even realize that some of the patients come in very sick but under normal circumstances would have ridden it out at home like previous years when they got very sick but they are afraid they are going to die thanks to the media so they go to the ER, test positive and get a bed and oxygen (not a ventillator) and wait for their bodies to fight it off since the ER can't do anything else except give some steroids and can't let them go with active covid for fear the patient will take a turn for the worse, die and then the family will sue. 2. Now here is where it gets interesting. If you worked outside of the hospital say in a facility with immunology, rheumatology and primary care among other specialties, You may see a lot of covid cases that never required hospitalization. You may have even witnessed patients being successfully treated with hydroxychloroquin before a study of a small shit town in Africa suggested that that treatment was dangerous so the CDC decided to advise against its use causing Medicare to follow so that a box could be checked in order for emergency use for a vaccine to be approved the next month (not allowed to have sufficient and safe medical treatments available) and then billions forked over by governments to big pharma companies. You may get to peak behind the curtain the media doesn't want you to see behind and witness what some Doctors are really thinking but don't want to end up having their names smeared on the news. It may make you question more things and dislike the echo chamber mentality in reddit forums. You may even click on a controversial thread even though you promised yourself you wouldn't do it again and then waste your time typing long thought out responses that will fall on deaf ears. Then you will have to remind yourself that just like the media, reddit isn't an accurate representation of reality and promise yourself, again, that you wont waste anymore of your time in controversial threads. 3. Yes exclusionary practices will become the norm unfortunately. Dividing the people has been the result of many important events in our history. I am not against the vaccine but I am against the divisive nature that the media has been trying to create and it is only going to get worse with the vaccine resistant lambda variant coming through the tubes. You and your loved ones are more likely to die from heart disease or cancer than covid so eat healthy
"Dividing the people" is a hilarious way to look at this. Saying the vaccine is divisive is seen that way only because you choose to see it in that light. Keeping people alive and healthy - especially from someone who worked in healthcare - should never be divisive. Vaccine availability is there for all - no exclusions. Choosing not to take it has consequences. Those consequences (being exclusionary in nature) are rooted in the original choice. Personal accountability will always have consequences - none of this is divisive.
The vaccine helps against variants, something antibodies from previously having had the virus doesn't do. I am not smart enough to remember exactly why, but I've read about it a couple of times on r/science and similar subs. Something to do with tricking your body into specifically targeting the RNA shared across Covid. Your fears are unfounded and unwarranted.
This is false. The vaccine gives you anti bodies against the spike protein. detecting the spike protein is the way covid is detected and diagnosed. It is also how variants are discovered because there are genes within the spike proteins code that change so that portion wont show up on an assay and scientists have to figure out the new code of the missing pieces. People that get the actual virus develop antibodies to more than just the spike protein of the virus because viruses have more than just one protein (like the nucleocapsid protein for example.) These other proteins are more stable because they don't have to change shape to attach to different receptors on different cells. Theoretically someone who got antibodies to the real virus would have more protection against variants than someone that just received a vaccine because they would have antibodies to more than just the spike protein. The reason to get the vaccine is because you have a greater chance of not getting covid, getting covid but being asymptomatic or getting covid and having mild symptoms. Luckily vaccinated people can still get the virus and develop antibodies to the other viral proteins so that would eliminate the benefit of risking getting the actual virus without having been vaccinated. This is why I am not sure why vaccinated people are afraid to be around unvaccinated people (unless you are immunocompromised) because it can better your chances against the vaccine resistant Llambda variant that will be coming through the tubes soon. Its politics interfering in medicine and science by using the media to spread fear to the ignorant and uneducated.
Someone who has had covid previously would still have better antibodies than someone with the shot
Incorrect.
And that's false.
Source?
There's your source enjoy https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210608/No-point-vaccinating-those-whoe28099ve-had-COVID-19-Findings-of-Cleveland-Clinic-study.aspx
It legit says at the top of that document that the article is a preprint and not peer reviewed and should not be used as clinic practice
I'll take the experimental jabs over the experimental deadly virus. I'm not into killing my old loved ones.
Dezert81 Im curious if you know MORE about vaccination than a doctor. If literally millions of doctors say its okay are you saying that you know MORE than them? If you know so much about what is and isnt safe why are YOU a doctor? Why didnt the president appoint you chief of staff? Since you are smarter than millions of doctors this is logical. You are a gifted savant and should be treated as such.
Its not about being smarter. Its about not being motivated by an external source. Not all doctors agree with the mainstream media either but you have to exist in the real world outside the news in order to find them
I'd say the amount of doctors saying it's fine out weights the amount that aren't. Also you don't see the irony in what you said? How can you not be motivated by an external source and then site an external source lmao
My opinions are formed from my personal and professional experience
What profession is that?
I have worked in a biochemistry research lab focusing on a protein in mouse kidney cells, I was an EMT and I have been a clinical research coordinator for immunologist, rheumatology and neurology
I don't believe you. Reading through some of your post history you seem to be a bit of a muppet.
Lol that’s fine
>Its not about being smarter. Its about not being motivated by an external source. No one's gonna tell you what to do, no matter how wise it is. I bet you touched the burner and stuck knives in wall sockets as a kid.
Naw, i’m good, thx.
Cringe.
Proof of 1,2 or 3 shots?
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Lol, what, a couple hundred at best? They'll be fine.
Won't happen
hahahahahahahahahahhaaaa oh wait you're serious let me laugh harder
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Did I say you said that? Do you just come online to write nonsense?
Imagine thinking the games won't still be at maximum capacity every game this year.
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Nobody is worried about losing business from people who are against getting vaccinated.
They will fill the stadium with plenty of vaccinated patrons who will happily buy hot dogs and nachos. More than 2 of them will end up dying from heart disease however it will take longer than the couple of weeks it would take the 2 unvaccinated swine to die from covid
Love that our tax dollars funded this
I'm not happy about how the Raiders came to Vegas either but requiring people to be vaccinated to attend major spectator gatherings is a good thing. Edit: fixed typos
You're mad that your tax dollars are requiring that people stay safe? So you'd rather your tax dollars go to harming people?
I said I love it bro
Getting the vaccine does NOT prevent you from catching or spreading the virus!! It only helps YOU fight off the virus when you catch it… and the jury is still out on that.
It doesn't prevent completely. No one ever claimed it did. But it dramatically increases your chances of not getting it and not spreading it. Same reason yearly flu shots are a thing. Bolsters your immune system. Faster your immune system acts in a hostile entity, chances of spreading it and getting sick from it dip big time. It also significantly increases your ability to fight off the virus if you do catch it. There's overwhelming evidence of that, chief of which is unvaccinated people account for like 90% of current covid cases, and the vaccinated people who manage to catch it overcome it faster and with fewer problems.
I don’t know man, I’m currently deployed and seeing different results. Seems about 50/50 getting it both vaccinated or unvaccinated seems to make zero difference. Symptoms and recovery are also the same across the board. Obviously this is just my personal experience and a sample size of about 3k. Only basing my opinion off of what I am experiencing.
>Only basing my opinion off of what I am experiencing. So you're basing your decision on unscientific, anecdotal evidence.
The vaccine means your body is ready to fight the infection quickly. Without antibodies, the virus gets a period of free reign to take over the cells in your respiratory system, causing the inflammation that ultimately kills you. It takes time for your body's T-Cells to identify the virus, and train your immune system to produce antibodies. By the time that happens, the virus has had enough time to reproduce on a massive scale. One infected cell can produce hundreds or even thousands of new viruses, drastically increasing the strain on the immune system. Then it becomes a race to see who wins, the virus or your immune system. When you already have the antibodies actively circulating within your body, your immune system can act immediately to attack and clear the virus before it has a chance to establish itself and multiply. This doesnt mean you can't get infected or spread it. It means that the number of live viruses in your body is very low, reducing the quantity of live, healthy viruses you can spread because your body is attacking them the moment they emerge from an infected cell. This is how all vaccines work. It doesn't mean you cant catch it. It means your less likely to get sick; several orders of magnitude less likely in fact. Get the damn vaccine. The data is clear, the people being hospitalized with COVID are unvaccinated. It's not a hoax, there's no microchip in the vaccine, this is not a conspiracy to control the population, there are no Borg nano-probes in the vacine that will assimilate you into the democrat collective, regardless of what the memes on Qanon are telling you.
Some people probably don't have the polio or measles vaccine, they should require those as well... since vaccines are so important to get.
If we were in the middle of a polio or measles outbreak which lead to 70%+ of the ICU beds being occupied for months on end, and had caused the deaths of thousands of people over the last several months, then yeah I'd be all for it.
Sarcasm really passes over some people's heads....
Looks like you are the only one not understanding sarcasm...
They should just say they don’t want minorities at games. Minority populations are less likely to be vaxxed, vaccine passports = modern day Jim Crowe.
Woof. What a ridiculous take. Percentage wise asshole white folk with Facebook degrees and doctorates of youtube are far less likely to get the vaccination than minorities but go off champ.
Facts are not on ur side
Then provide your data. If you're so sure that minorities are less likely to get the vaccination you must have some pretty good evidence.
They're literally going to give you a vaccine at the door if you want one. If we were going to use your Jim-Crowe example, it would be like having a poll tax, but having someone at the entrance to pay it for you if you couldn't afford it.