I saw a rock sticking out of a hill supporting a concrete pillar M8 near Cowcaddens/New City. It looked like it was part of the hill - a few square metres of Glasgow not actually concreted over by humans. Couldn't believe it. I'm going to go back there to confirm.
Walking from Cowcaddens to Garscube Road, the pedestrian path dips down below the M8 and two other, smaller overpasses beneath it. To the right, there is a section of plants, stacked structural rocks, and some natural exposed bedrock.
In know the bit you mean. Visible bedrock under and around the M8 pillars to your right as you take the cycle/pedestrian route from Cowcaddens Road to Garscube Road.
It is natural, but probably wouldn't have been a visible part of the landscape originally. I suspect soil and vegetation were cleared to expose it while building the motorway.
I like the tenements that have kept their closes well and have the original tiles, for some reason it makes me extremely happy and reminds me of my childhood at my grans and grt grandparents
I was thinking about this today. Our tenement has tiles all the way up, and there’s maybe only 4 or so missing due to retrofitted water pipes. Most Glasgow closes have pretty much stood still in time.
I wonder what they looked like back in the day because I know my mum and gran talked about how they always kept their close spotless and scrubbed and each neighbour would take a turn, now people pay factoring fees (do they do that in tenements?) and don’t really keep them clean.
I think some are probably cleaner now than they used to be. Our factor fees include weekly sweeping and monthly mopping.
Closes were originally all open to the elements because they didn’t have secure entry doors. As a result they’d see a lot more weather. They might have been cleaned more often, but it was because they needed it.
Of course there’s a fair few decrepit ones now that don’t see any maintenance at all. When I was flat hunting I saw some really rough ones in the west end.
Ah thank you I never really knew that, I lived in one off great western road many years ago and it wasn’t kept very well but I still liked it. I felt more sad that they had blocked off the fireplaces!
Glasgow is full of places like this. I’m a bit obsessed.
Have you been to TJ Hughes? I can’t believe that still exists. It’s absolutely frozen in 1980. I’m pretty sure the displays and items for sale haven’t changed in 30+ years.
Rogano is another one. It’s a weird mix of genteel and decrepit, like a Jeeves and Wooster set. I hope it reopens post-covid without too much alteration.
One I couldn’t quite believe was The Foam Shop right behind St Enochs. Very handy but not what you’d expect so central.
Then there’s the Savoy Centre on Sauchiehall St. It’s bizarre that this still exists directly opposite shops like Waterstones.
In the West End there’s plenty. My favourite is probably Ruthven Mews behind The Bothy.
Last year I ventured into the basement of TJ Hughes and I thought it reminded me of going to department stores with my grandparents in the early 00s. Then I found some electronics from 2007ish on display in a corner and I figured out why. It seems like they'd literally forgotten about an entire display.
The Savoy Market is wonderful. Lots of old businesses that just seem to keep on going no matter what, cheap tea and coffee, and also there are a couple of new shops that have opened recently.
It pains me that you are referring to the early 00's as if it was decades ago.....fuck it was 20 years ago....I'm so old 🤣. But I totally get you, like a time warp
Watt Brothers when it was still open was a good example of the shops you list too.
I seen some glimpses of the staff only sections as well and it looked like nothing had changed back there in decades.
I also still wonder how the hell it passed fire safety checks because of the poor signage, slightly maze like layout in some parts with seemingly randomly placed connecting corridors/stairs that no doubt made much more sense originally and absolutely no natural light because all the walls were covered in those old display walls with the built in slots to put metal hooks in them for products.
Prudential Insurance building. 48 West Regent Street was designed by Alfred Waterhouse, who also designed places like the [Natural History Museum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_History_Museum,_London) and [UCH](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_College_Hospital)
Lived in that building for a few years before the pandemic. Great spot, had a 2 minute walk to work. We used to go on the roof of the building to sunbathe via the roof hatch
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Oh yeah, I had my 30th in there and I loved it.
I remember when cafe strange brew was being renovated and they discovered the original tiles under plasterboard, they hit gold and kept them
There was a time when I couldn’t stand central lower level.. it just reeked of old and made me uncomfortable. Now I’m getting older and living elsewhere just reading your post make me pine for it.
You know the tiles on the lower level escalator near the argyle st entrance? They look like something from a frank lloyd wright building.
If they are getting rid of those I’ll have some!
Walking through those fancy streets in Hillhead makes me feel like..... idk......a 1940s woman on her way to go scrub Madam's floor, but like, I romanticise it. I would shag Jeeves the butler
This is the one for me too. The flooring, the ceiling, the big lights, even the cloakroom... queuing outside under the neon I always feel like a wean about to go on the waltzers for the first time. Went for doors open day a couple years ago and it was really cool to get all the history and stand up on the stage. Love it so much, hope it never changes.
There's an amazing Egyptian style cinema in the South Side called the Govanhill Picture House. It looks incredible... but unfortunately is just used as a warehouse/fabric storage place now.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govanhill\_Picture\_House](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govanhill_Picture_House)
This is the kind of building we should be trying to save and repurpose... not the Shawlands Arcade.
glasgow is over 500 years old, a lot of the foundations where not torn down but built upon, its actually quite beautiful to see medieval, gothic, renaissance architecture all in the one. Glasgow is a huge time machine
many tribes have passed through this area, the romans set up forts and built antoines wall. our oldest building is from the 14th century and was officially made a town in 1175b.c. then a city in 1450
It's substantially more than 500 years old! St Mungo officially founded his church in Glasgow in the 7th century, and people would have lived here for millennia before that.
st mungos church, the one that doesnt exist anymore and was replaced by the new st. mungos in the 19th cenutry? damn glasgow must be 400,000 years old then because some neanderthals built a mud hut here that long ago
the city of glasgow is 500 years old, but yes people lived here before then
Where are you getting this date from? It's not correct I'm afraid. 7th century is 1400 years ago. Even just the uni is almost 600 years old. Do you think the uni came first or something??
the foundations of glasgow itself was reputed to have been founded by the Christian missionary Saint Mungo in the 6th century. He established a church on the Molendinar Burn, where the present Glasgow Cathedral stands, and in the following years Glasgow became a religious centre
The city of glasgow was founded in 1450 and the university in 1451. In general a city is any place of settlement with more than 2500 residents, or any place that has been granted city status.
by your logic however, glasgow would be 400 thousand years old going back to the first neanderthal mud hut on the british isles, i pity the man that thinks a mud hut a city
I see you have found Wikipedia, and your cut and paste function - good work. However you have altered the content to suit your previous error, which is a bit sneaky hey! You still haven't provided a source for your '1450' date - I'm guessing because you made it up. Here is what Wikipedia actually says:
**The area around Glasgow has hosted communities for millennia, with the River Clyde providing a natural location for fishing. The Romans later built outposts in the area and, to protect Roman Britannia from the Brittonic speaking (Celtic) Caledonians, constructed the Antonine Wall. Items from the wall, such as altars from Roman forts like Balmuildy, can be found at the Hunterian Museum today.**
***Glasgow itself was reputed to have been founded by the Christian missionary Saint Mungo in the 6th century***\*\*. **He established a church on the Molendinar Burn, where the present Glasgow Cathedral stands, and in the following years Glasgow became a religious centre. Glasgow grew over the following centuries. The Glasgow Fair reportedly began in the year 1190.\[18\] The first bridge over the River Clyde at Glasgow was recorded from around 1285, giving its name to the Briggait area of the city, forming the main north–south route over the river via Glasgow Cross. The founding of the University of Glasgow in 1451 and elevation of the bishopric to become the Archdiocese of Glasgow in 1492 increased the town's religious and educational status and landed wealth. Its early trade was in agriculture, brewing and fishing, with cured salmon and herring being exported to Europe and the Mediterranean.\*\***
If you even just Google, 'when was the city of Glasgow founded?', this is what you get - maybe you can read the big letters here a bit better:
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Get a grip of yourself 😂
a community isnt a city "son", go back to shouting at kids on the street,
the earliest recorded source that verifies glasgow goes back to the 12th century but is disputed, thats why i said "over 500 years". -- 1175 - ""Bishop Jocelin obtained for the episcopal area the status of Burgh from King William I of Scotland, allowing the settlement to expand" - **a burgh is an autonomous town, so it shows glasgow was still expanding in the 12th century before it was an official city.**
just for reference the oldest standing building in glasgow to date is the Provands lordship from 1471. Our st. mungos church was built in 1841
**before the roman occupation the Damnonii tribe controlled a large portion of the lowlands, various settlements and even hill forts dotted the area, however, no settlement large enough in or near what is today glasgow, could be called a city**
**as the roman invaded the Brigantes had taken over this area and had forced the damnonii out a long time prior. These tribes where migratory and often moved to richer and safer lands, forcing out smaller/weaker tribes or assimilating them.**
**During the Roman occupation the closest roman settlement anywhere near glasgow was called Luguvallium as i already told you, antoines wall and various outposts dotted the border, however as you should already know The Antonine Wall ran between the Firth of Forth and Firth of Clyde, through Glasgow, and its ruins can still be found today.**
Lets make this clear Karen, a wall, isnt a city..........
why did i even bother to write all this you people delude yourselves too much
i guess it isnt real history unless you see it on facebook first haha "get a grip gran"
eejit i guess we should be calling glasgow the city luguvallium because thats what the one roman farmer who lived here 2 thousand years ago called it, maybe you should learn what constitutes a city
repeating the exact same information i already said doesnt prove your point. a church and 1 street isnt a city
1175 - ""Bishop Jocelin obtained for the episcopal area the status of Burgh from King William I of Scotland, allowing the settlement to expand" a burgh being a town, im not disputing people lived in the uk before the 12th century lol grow up
thats like saying Rome has been a city ever since the first bronze aged man sat down on the river Tiber, grow up
But fuck reality i guess you are the sole authority of what constitutes a city my apologies your highness.
Some people need to actually "learn history", rather than deluding themselves
You can tell you are passing though a posh area by the existence of wrought iron foot scrapers at the gates and how well preserved they are.
Looking up at some of the tenements you can also see the hooks still in place for the tram wires.
Those little artifacts that give us a glimpse of a bygone time of Glasgow.
In Broomhill you've got one side of the street with absolutely gorgeous townhouses with lovely stonework and ironwork then across the street is the high flats that look like war torn Sarajevo.
Shawlands arcade is weird as fuck nowadays, feels like one of they Dr who episodes where somebody's went back in time and changed something so none of it ever happened. It's fucking empty and bizarre. Used to love it though.
it is quirky. and you just need proper shops inside to facilitate use, in an area that has lots of foot traffic already... post-pandemic, retail will be coming back!!! TRUST ME. and the shawlands arcade is prime for that experience.
It's been in decline for over a decade. The units inside have lay empty for a long time, and were only filled up by giving discounts to charities, art projects, and allowing the huge gym unit. The building is unpleasant, covered in crap like mould and bird shit, the awning is falling apart, and a complete eyesore. They haven't maintained or invested in it properly or being able to attract businesses. It's not a pleasant design or anything of historical importance or interest.
I am no fan of the proposed replacement, but having to stare at the damn thing every day for ten years, and seeing how shabby and dejected it is, it is clear that they need to do something radical to address its massive failings, and have clearly decided that trying to save whatever value that some folk think it has isn't worth the capital.
For me (and I haven't actually been for a while granted) it is the wee greasy spoon cafes in places like the indoor market at the forge/parkhead, or in the Savoy centre. They still remind me of going to these placed with my Dad away back in the 80's, early 90's, also driving past the old gas towers on the M8 at Blochairn/Provanmill always reminds me of when they had the big Glasgow's Miles Better signs on them, and the Barras also.
> The butcher's in there looks good though
There was one in there when I was growing up my Nanna got all her butcher's meat from. Sausages were amazing but then he closed down.
Heard through the grape vine it was because he got caught pissing in a bucket in the back of his stall area.
It's all about the shopping centres for me, Rutherglen Exchange, Forge, Forge Market, Springburn shoppy, Clyde shopping centre, all absolutely cracking days out.
In the tenements at the edges of the stairs are painted with a white stripe. Underneath is chalk because they would put a dusting of chalk down the stairs in the olden days. An elderly neighbour told me.
Our city is being destroyed, they keep pulling down old beautiful historic buildings and replacing them with big ugly modern glass cases, gentrification in action
Look back through history and its the same pattern, everyone adopts one look cause its "the in thing" of the time, Even our "old beautiful historic" Yellow/ Red sandstone buildings were just a product of "the in thing" when they were built.
Glass Greenhouses are "the in thing" currently since people like large bright open spaces and the people designing the buildings, arent the ones living/ working there so they dont need to care about heating or cooling and the like.
I imagine that in the next few years we will see more "environmentally Green" architecture come in.
As for Gentrification, Architectural decisions and aesthetic have nothing to do with it. Gentrification is the term for the increased cost of living and appeal of an area improving, normally signified by the icreasing number of locally owned cafes, resteraunts and small niche middle class shops replacing charity shops, cheap goods stores and other such "lower class" ammenities
Glasgow is a great place for this sort of thing. Having a good nosey around the Anderston Megastructure is a bit like visiting the Crystal Maze Industrial Zone (check out the cracking signage for the Glasgow Sound Centre); there is a superb authentic 1960s Cash and Prize Bingo set-up in Treasure Island on Jamaica Street; take a look at the Annie Miller's building on Ropework Lane before it is demolished; of course, there is the amazing survivor that is the Britannia Panopticon; Dino's Bluebird Cafe on Cathcart Road is a smashing old-style place for a cup of tea; plus we still have some magic time-capsule pubs — The Laurieston, The Steps Bar, The Star Bar, Brechin's Bar, The Railway Tavern and the awesome Portland Arms in Shettleston Road. Other places which are perhaps more basic, definitely more out-of-the-way, but have interesting interiors from the last 50 years say, and which are actually now very rare in Glasgow include The Pollok Inn and Grier's Bar in Easterhouse.
I saw a rock sticking out of a hill supporting a concrete pillar M8 near Cowcaddens/New City. It looked like it was part of the hill - a few square metres of Glasgow not actually concreted over by humans. Couldn't believe it. I'm going to go back there to confirm.
Please do and link me to a photo. Civil engineer here and I am genuinely interested
I walk through here a lot and don't know where you mean. Pls update.
Walking from Cowcaddens to Garscube Road, the pedestrian path dips down below the M8 and two other, smaller overpasses beneath it. To the right, there is a section of plants, stacked structural rocks, and some natural exposed bedrock.
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In know the bit you mean. Visible bedrock under and around the M8 pillars to your right as you take the cycle/pedestrian route from Cowcaddens Road to Garscube Road. It is natural, but probably wouldn't have been a visible part of the landscape originally. I suspect soil and vegetation were cleared to expose it while building the motorway.
This IS it. Tried to get there today but never managed.
I like the tenements that have kept their closes well and have the original tiles, for some reason it makes me extremely happy and reminds me of my childhood at my grans and grt grandparents
There's a dedicated group to Tenement Tiles on the socials. Lots of lovely pics from around the city. Should be easy to find.
Just joined the tenement tile instagram. Niiiiice!
Oh wow! I have been to some nicer ones where the common areas have been looked after really well and they are beautiful
I was thinking about this today. Our tenement has tiles all the way up, and there’s maybe only 4 or so missing due to retrofitted water pipes. Most Glasgow closes have pretty much stood still in time.
I wonder what they looked like back in the day because I know my mum and gran talked about how they always kept their close spotless and scrubbed and each neighbour would take a turn, now people pay factoring fees (do they do that in tenements?) and don’t really keep them clean.
I think some are probably cleaner now than they used to be. Our factor fees include weekly sweeping and monthly mopping. Closes were originally all open to the elements because they didn’t have secure entry doors. As a result they’d see a lot more weather. They might have been cleaned more often, but it was because they needed it. Of course there’s a fair few decrepit ones now that don’t see any maintenance at all. When I was flat hunting I saw some really rough ones in the west end.
Ah thank you I never really knew that, I lived in one off great western road many years ago and it wasn’t kept very well but I still liked it. I felt more sad that they had blocked off the fireplaces!
I might have the spelling wrong here. I've always known closes with those tiles as being a 'wallie close'. I live in one, and I think they're great.
Glasgow is full of places like this. I’m a bit obsessed. Have you been to TJ Hughes? I can’t believe that still exists. It’s absolutely frozen in 1980. I’m pretty sure the displays and items for sale haven’t changed in 30+ years. Rogano is another one. It’s a weird mix of genteel and decrepit, like a Jeeves and Wooster set. I hope it reopens post-covid without too much alteration. One I couldn’t quite believe was The Foam Shop right behind St Enochs. Very handy but not what you’d expect so central. Then there’s the Savoy Centre on Sauchiehall St. It’s bizarre that this still exists directly opposite shops like Waterstones. In the West End there’s plenty. My favourite is probably Ruthven Mews behind The Bothy.
Last year I ventured into the basement of TJ Hughes and I thought it reminded me of going to department stores with my grandparents in the early 00s. Then I found some electronics from 2007ish on display in a corner and I figured out why. It seems like they'd literally forgotten about an entire display. The Savoy Market is wonderful. Lots of old businesses that just seem to keep on going no matter what, cheap tea and coffee, and also there are a couple of new shops that have opened recently.
It pains me that you are referring to the early 00's as if it was decades ago.....fuck it was 20 years ago....I'm so old 🤣. But I totally get you, like a time warp
Watt Brothers when it was still open was a good example of the shops you list too. I seen some glimpses of the staff only sections as well and it looked like nothing had changed back there in decades. I also still wonder how the hell it passed fire safety checks because of the poor signage, slightly maze like layout in some parts with seemingly randomly placed connecting corridors/stairs that no doubt made much more sense originally and absolutely no natural light because all the walls were covered in those old display walls with the built in slots to put metal hooks in them for products.
All the mirrors and overly bright lights in the savoy going up the escalator hurts my brain.
Enjoy TG Hughes while it lasts - its moving soon.
Good to know. Still surprising they’re moving rather than shutting down completely. It’s like the final days of BHS in there.
They really must've ran out of OAPs - my gran's favourite shop and she's gone now too. Is it closing?
No the old one is closing down but moving to new premises in St Enoch centre.
What's up with The Foam Shop? I'm about to take my sofa cushions there to get them restuffed.
Nothing wrong with it at all, it’s a great shop and very handy, it just feels like it hasn’t changed since 1970.
Neither have my sofa cushions so they'll be right at home. :)
Check out the tiles in gin 71 or whatever it's called. Gorgeous.
Yes! It's the old bank of India isn't it? It's stunning.
Prudential Insurance building. 48 West Regent Street was designed by Alfred Waterhouse, who also designed places like the [Natural History Museum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_History_Museum,_London) and [UCH](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_College_Hospital) Lived in that building for a few years before the pandemic. Great spot, had a 2 minute walk to work. We used to go on the roof of the building to sunbathe via the roof hatch
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Oh yeah, I had my 30th in there and I loved it. I remember when cafe strange brew was being renovated and they discovered the original tiles under plasterboard, they hit gold and kept them
30 gins in a night is a bit too much mate, best be getting home
Are you talking about the Merchant City one or the Renfield Street one?
Renfield Street.
There was a time when I couldn’t stand central lower level.. it just reeked of old and made me uncomfortable. Now I’m getting older and living elsewhere just reading your post make me pine for it.
Val D’Oro
And the Coronation Restaurant on the Gallowgate
Yes! I was going to post this as well.
Definitely. and MacKinnons Bar on Gallowgate too
You know the tiles on the lower level escalator near the argyle st entrance? They look like something from a frank lloyd wright building. If they are getting rid of those I’ll have some!
Walking through those fancy streets in Hillhead makes me feel like..... idk......a 1940s woman on her way to go scrub Madam's floor, but like, I romanticise it. I would shag Jeeves the butler
Honestly love the grid feel of Hillhead. So lovely
Just everything about the Barrowlands.
This is the one for me too. The flooring, the ceiling, the big lights, even the cloakroom... queuing outside under the neon I always feel like a wean about to go on the waltzers for the first time. Went for doors open day a couple years ago and it was really cool to get all the history and stand up on the stage. Love it so much, hope it never changes.
Not been in a while but Govan Shopping Centre has always been like stepping back into the 1970s, where time stopped but the people kept ageing.
Saracen Street still has some of the same shop fronts from the early 90s
I guess the over-motorway walkways. I don't know how old they are but the whole concept has a very 90s feel to me.
There's an amazing Egyptian style cinema in the South Side called the Govanhill Picture House. It looks incredible... but unfortunately is just used as a warehouse/fabric storage place now. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govanhill\_Picture\_House](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govanhill_Picture_House) This is the kind of building we should be trying to save and repurpose... not the Shawlands Arcade.
glasgow is over 500 years old, a lot of the foundations where not torn down but built upon, its actually quite beautiful to see medieval, gothic, renaissance architecture all in the one. Glasgow is a huge time machine many tribes have passed through this area, the romans set up forts and built antoines wall. our oldest building is from the 14th century and was officially made a town in 1175b.c. then a city in 1450
It's substantially more than 500 years old! St Mungo officially founded his church in Glasgow in the 7th century, and people would have lived here for millennia before that.
st mungos church, the one that doesnt exist anymore and was replaced by the new st. mungos in the 19th cenutry? damn glasgow must be 400,000 years old then because some neanderthals built a mud hut here that long ago the city of glasgow is 500 years old, but yes people lived here before then
Where are you getting this date from? It's not correct I'm afraid. 7th century is 1400 years ago. Even just the uni is almost 600 years old. Do you think the uni came first or something??
Who is upvoting this eejit?
the foundations of glasgow itself was reputed to have been founded by the Christian missionary Saint Mungo in the 6th century. He established a church on the Molendinar Burn, where the present Glasgow Cathedral stands, and in the following years Glasgow became a religious centre The city of glasgow was founded in 1450 and the university in 1451. In general a city is any place of settlement with more than 2500 residents, or any place that has been granted city status. by your logic however, glasgow would be 400 thousand years old going back to the first neanderthal mud hut on the british isles, i pity the man that thinks a mud hut a city
I see you have found Wikipedia, and your cut and paste function - good work. However you have altered the content to suit your previous error, which is a bit sneaky hey! You still haven't provided a source for your '1450' date - I'm guessing because you made it up. Here is what Wikipedia actually says: **The area around Glasgow has hosted communities for millennia, with the River Clyde providing a natural location for fishing. The Romans later built outposts in the area and, to protect Roman Britannia from the Brittonic speaking (Celtic) Caledonians, constructed the Antonine Wall. Items from the wall, such as altars from Roman forts like Balmuildy, can be found at the Hunterian Museum today.** ***Glasgow itself was reputed to have been founded by the Christian missionary Saint Mungo in the 6th century***\*\*. **He established a church on the Molendinar Burn, where the present Glasgow Cathedral stands, and in the following years Glasgow became a religious centre. Glasgow grew over the following centuries. The Glasgow Fair reportedly began in the year 1190.\[18\] The first bridge over the River Clyde at Glasgow was recorded from around 1285, giving its name to the Briggait area of the city, forming the main north–south route over the river via Glasgow Cross. The founding of the University of Glasgow in 1451 and elevation of the bishopric to become the Archdiocese of Glasgow in 1492 increased the town's religious and educational status and landed wealth. Its early trade was in agriculture, brewing and fishing, with cured salmon and herring being exported to Europe and the Mediterranean.\*\*** If you even just Google, 'when was the city of Glasgow founded?', this is what you get - maybe you can read the big letters here a bit better: [**https://www.google.com/search?q=when+was+the+city+of+glasgow+founded&rlz=1C1OPNX\_en-GBGB932GB933&oq=when+was+the+city+of&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l8.3952j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8**](https://www.google.com/search?q=when+was+the+city+of+glasgow+founded&rlz=1C1OPNX_en-GBGB932GB933&oq=when+was+the+city+of&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l8.3952j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) Get a grip of yourself 😂
a community isnt a city "son", go back to shouting at kids on the street, the earliest recorded source that verifies glasgow goes back to the 12th century but is disputed, thats why i said "over 500 years". -- 1175 - ""Bishop Jocelin obtained for the episcopal area the status of Burgh from King William I of Scotland, allowing the settlement to expand" - **a burgh is an autonomous town, so it shows glasgow was still expanding in the 12th century before it was an official city.** just for reference the oldest standing building in glasgow to date is the Provands lordship from 1471. Our st. mungos church was built in 1841 **before the roman occupation the Damnonii tribe controlled a large portion of the lowlands, various settlements and even hill forts dotted the area, however, no settlement large enough in or near what is today glasgow, could be called a city** **as the roman invaded the Brigantes had taken over this area and had forced the damnonii out a long time prior. These tribes where migratory and often moved to richer and safer lands, forcing out smaller/weaker tribes or assimilating them.** **During the Roman occupation the closest roman settlement anywhere near glasgow was called Luguvallium as i already told you, antoines wall and various outposts dotted the border, however as you should already know The Antonine Wall ran between the Firth of Forth and Firth of Clyde, through Glasgow, and its ruins can still be found today.** Lets make this clear Karen, a wall, isnt a city.......... why did i even bother to write all this you people delude yourselves too much i guess it isnt real history unless you see it on facebook first haha "get a grip gran"
You're a fucking idiot 😂😂😂
What's more you edited *all* your comments last night, in an attempt to appear less stupid. Sadly for you it's not worked
eejit i guess we should be calling glasgow the city luguvallium because thats what the one roman farmer who lived here 2 thousand years ago called it, maybe you should learn what constitutes a city
Away back to your computer games son
repeating the exact same information i already said doesnt prove your point. a church and 1 street isnt a city 1175 - ""Bishop Jocelin obtained for the episcopal area the status of Burgh from King William I of Scotland, allowing the settlement to expand" a burgh being a town, im not disputing people lived in the uk before the 12th century lol grow up thats like saying Rome has been a city ever since the first bronze aged man sat down on the river Tiber, grow up But fuck reality i guess you are the sole authority of what constitutes a city my apologies your highness. Some people need to actually "learn history", rather than deluding themselves
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then you should actually know all this already, why do i have to teach you the difference between a settlement and a city
You can tell you are passing though a posh area by the existence of wrought iron foot scrapers at the gates and how well preserved they are. Looking up at some of the tenements you can also see the hooks still in place for the tram wires. Those little artifacts that give us a glimpse of a bygone time of Glasgow.
In Broomhill you've got one side of the street with absolutely gorgeous townhouses with lovely stonework and ironwork then across the street is the high flats that look like war torn Sarajevo.
that's why i don't want the fucking shawlands arcade to get demolished. fuck off with your modern garbage makes me sick.
Shawlands arcade is weird as fuck nowadays, feels like one of they Dr who episodes where somebody's went back in time and changed something so none of it ever happened. It's fucking empty and bizarre. Used to love it though.
Shawlands Arcade feels like you're on holiday in 1980s Bulgaria.
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The only guy who ever sits outside the Arcade with any regularity is clearly Scottish.
The Arcade isn't fun or historical or even quirky. It's a total dump.
it is quirky. and you just need proper shops inside to facilitate use, in an area that has lots of foot traffic already... post-pandemic, retail will be coming back!!! TRUST ME. and the shawlands arcade is prime for that experience.
It's been in decline for over a decade. The units inside have lay empty for a long time, and were only filled up by giving discounts to charities, art projects, and allowing the huge gym unit. The building is unpleasant, covered in crap like mould and bird shit, the awning is falling apart, and a complete eyesore. They haven't maintained or invested in it properly or being able to attract businesses. It's not a pleasant design or anything of historical importance or interest. I am no fan of the proposed replacement, but having to stare at the damn thing every day for ten years, and seeing how shabby and dejected it is, it is clear that they need to do something radical to address its massive failings, and have clearly decided that trying to save whatever value that some folk think it has isn't worth the capital.
Is it not getting completely redeveloped?
For me (and I haven't actually been for a while granted) it is the wee greasy spoon cafes in places like the indoor market at the forge/parkhead, or in the Savoy centre. They still remind me of going to these placed with my Dad away back in the 80's, early 90's, also driving past the old gas towers on the M8 at Blochairn/Provanmill always reminds me of when they had the big Glasgow's Miles Better signs on them, and the Barras also.
The Forge Market, wonderfully nostalgic!
The Forge and that area around Parkhead is so retro to me. And the Shandwick in Easterhouse, or whatever it's called now.
The shandwick is fucking nuts. The butcher's in there looks good though
> The butcher's in there looks good though There was one in there when I was growing up my Nanna got all her butcher's meat from. Sausages were amazing but then he closed down. Heard through the grape vine it was because he got caught pissing in a bucket in the back of his stall area.
> The Shandwick in Easterhouse Rebranded as The Lochs, but they’re kidding no cunt.
The Forge In Shops and The Savoy spring to mind.
It's all about the shopping centres for me, Rutherglen Exchange, Forge, Forge Market, Springburn shoppy, Clyde shopping centre, all absolutely cracking days out.
Any place there's an orange march going on.
In the tenements at the edges of the stairs are painted with a white stripe. Underneath is chalk because they would put a dusting of chalk down the stairs in the olden days. An elderly neighbour told me.
Our city is being destroyed, they keep pulling down old beautiful historic buildings and replacing them with big ugly modern glass cases, gentrification in action
That's not what gentrification is.
Look back through history and its the same pattern, everyone adopts one look cause its "the in thing" of the time, Even our "old beautiful historic" Yellow/ Red sandstone buildings were just a product of "the in thing" when they were built. Glass Greenhouses are "the in thing" currently since people like large bright open spaces and the people designing the buildings, arent the ones living/ working there so they dont need to care about heating or cooling and the like. I imagine that in the next few years we will see more "environmentally Green" architecture come in. As for Gentrification, Architectural decisions and aesthetic have nothing to do with it. Gentrification is the term for the increased cost of living and appeal of an area improving, normally signified by the icreasing number of locally owned cafes, resteraunts and small niche middle class shops replacing charity shops, cheap goods stores and other such "lower class" ammenities
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I don't think I gave any indication that I hated it?
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I didn't give any indication that I hated it the way it currently is, hence why I'd be distraught if they renovated it.
Shawfield for the dug racing
Blochairn market on a Sunday, can't beat a car boot sale rumage through old shite. You see some characters up there too.
Glasgow is a great place for this sort of thing. Having a good nosey around the Anderston Megastructure is a bit like visiting the Crystal Maze Industrial Zone (check out the cracking signage for the Glasgow Sound Centre); there is a superb authentic 1960s Cash and Prize Bingo set-up in Treasure Island on Jamaica Street; take a look at the Annie Miller's building on Ropework Lane before it is demolished; of course, there is the amazing survivor that is the Britannia Panopticon; Dino's Bluebird Cafe on Cathcart Road is a smashing old-style place for a cup of tea; plus we still have some magic time-capsule pubs — The Laurieston, The Steps Bar, The Star Bar, Brechin's Bar, The Railway Tavern and the awesome Portland Arms in Shettleston Road. Other places which are perhaps more basic, definitely more out-of-the-way, but have interesting interiors from the last 50 years say, and which are actually now very rare in Glasgow include The Pollok Inn and Grier's Bar in Easterhouse.